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BS: Decorum

Donuel 31 Jan 21 - 08:52 AM
gillymor 31 Jan 21 - 09:05 AM
Donuel 31 Jan 21 - 09:26 AM
Donuel 31 Jan 21 - 09:37 AM
Donuel 31 Jan 21 - 03:21 PM
Senoufou 31 Jan 21 - 03:43 PM
Bill D 31 Jan 21 - 03:53 PM
Donuel 31 Jan 21 - 05:31 PM
Steve Shaw 31 Jan 21 - 06:11 PM
Jeri 31 Jan 21 - 09:45 PM
Steve Shaw 31 Jan 21 - 09:55 PM
robomatic 01 Feb 21 - 12:59 AM
Donuel 01 Feb 21 - 06:39 AM
Steve Shaw 01 Feb 21 - 06:50 AM
Mr Red 01 Feb 21 - 08:46 AM
Dave the Gnome 01 Feb 21 - 09:44 AM
Dave the Gnome 01 Feb 21 - 10:11 AM
Jos 01 Feb 21 - 10:23 AM
meself 01 Feb 21 - 10:49 AM
Donuel 01 Feb 21 - 11:26 AM
Mrrzy 01 Feb 21 - 11:53 AM
Dave the Gnome 01 Feb 21 - 01:23 PM
Dave the Gnome 01 Feb 21 - 01:24 PM
Tattie Bogle 01 Feb 21 - 01:46 PM
Jos 01 Feb 21 - 02:33 PM
Raggytash 01 Feb 21 - 03:11 PM
robomatic 01 Feb 21 - 09:26 PM
Mrrzy 02 Feb 21 - 09:14 AM
Stilly River Sage 02 Feb 21 - 11:11 AM
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Donuel 03 Feb 21 - 01:49 PM
Donuel 03 Feb 21 - 01:56 PM
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Subject: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 08:52 AM

Decorum has declined over the last 200 years
Naturally there is no use for a word in a civilization where events and behavior do not exhibit a reality of decorum. It seems to me decorum is at an all time low. Be it the Brexit Mess or the US insurrection there is a marked decrease in decorum. Its use today may make some people think it is a brand of liquor 'Deco Rum'.
I think of the woman who had global amnesia for 5 years and more or less woke up this week and is trying to come to grips with the stark changes today all at once. The rest of us are like slowly boiled frogs and haven't felt the deadly heat building but to the amnesia lady, its like day and night.

I try to seek out the wise, the Purlitzer winners, the counter terrorism experts, sage Senators, Historians, the scientists and they all seem to say the same damn thing! ITS FUCKIN NUTS.
I admit we have had some great accomplishments along the way but we are way past 'wake up and smell the kofefe'. I don't know who is respondsible, the liars or those who allowed the lies to survive.
In this precise moment Otis Redding comes to mind;
We may be weary
We all can get so weary
Working that same old crappy job, yeah, yeah
But when we gets weary
Try a little decorum, yeah, yeah
You know we're waiting
Just anticipating
The things that we'll never, never, never, never possess, mmm, mmm
But while we're there waiting
Without them try a little decorum
That's all you got to do
It's not just sentimental no, no, no
WE have our grief and care, yeah, yeah, yeah
But the soft words they are spoke so gentle, yeah
It makes it easier, easier to bear, yeah
You won't regret it no, no
All of us we won't forget it
Love is our only happiness, yeah, yeah, yeah
But it's all so easy
All you got to do is try
Try a little tenderness
Yeah
All you got to do is, love yer country sincerely
Squeeze her, don't tease her, never leave her
Get to her, got, got, got to try a little tenderness, yeah, yeah
You got to know how to love her, man
Don't be surprised, man
You got to squeeze her, don't tease her, never leave
You got to hold her, brother, something, man
Try a little tenderness, yeah, yeah, yeah
You got to grab her gently, man
Don't bruise her, no, no
You got to love her, tease her, don't squeeze her
You got to try, na na na na na
Try, try a little tenderness, yeah
Watch her groove
You got to know what to do, man
Take this advice
You gotta love, squeeze, don't secede her
...


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: gillymor
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 09:05 AM

"Purlitzer", is that a literary prize for cats?


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 09:26 AM

spelling is over rated,
Just a reminder, Try a Little Tenderness was the opening soundtrack for the movie Dr. Strangelove as we watch B-52's cruise the stratosphere.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 09:37 AM

Correvtion: Spelling is over raided

Don'tread on me


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 03:21 PM

Latin: decorus
French bienséance
German anstand


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Senoufou
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 03:43 PM

Donuel, all German nouns start with a capital letter, so it should be 'Anstand'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 03:53 PM

Old fuddy-duddy Bill thinks spelling is NOT overrated.
On the WWW it helps in a search. In my head it allows a regular flow of comprehension unbroken by interruptions when I wonder "What is that?"

I have dyslexic typing and correct often, but I use a spelchecquer *grin* that follows me an yells at me.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 05:31 PM

You think you're dyslexic, I have a dish sink full of dirty kitchens.
I once wrote some fiction about Swartzenegger becoming president and how his grammer and spelling caused a nuclear war.

Thank you Senofou I thought google made a mistake.

While the social pot is still boiling, the heat has been turned off and the boiling will subside in time. Only then will cooler heads prevail and convenient forgetting begin on both 'sides'. (To be politically correct, there are no sides.) Of course anything is possible.


My personal favorite performance of 'Try a little tenderness'.
movie version


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 06:11 PM

I would say this, wouldn't I, as my spelling is pretty good, but spelling is not at all overrated. It's OK to be not very good at spelling, but it's not OK to sit back on that and not care what you put out and try to turn your disadvantage into an excuse. We have online spellcheckers and we should always review our posts. The vast majority of people posting on Mudcat make the effort. Two or three people here just don't seem to give a damn, and the thing is that your not bothering to check your spelling, or your grammar, or your punctuation, or your word spacing, puts the onus on the readers of your posts to try to process your lazy efforts. That's not fair, and, ultimately, it might have people just ignoring your posts, or, worse, regarding you as an ignoramus.

Losing your reading specs, as I frequently do, is, of course, an excellent excuse...


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Jeri
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 09:45 PM

I have spell-checkers, but one thing they're good at it spelling the wrong word perfectly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 09:55 PM

This is true, and they have a cute habit of replacing the word you intended with a word that, though utterly wrong, can seem weirdly appropriate. I usually delete 'em, but maybe I'll try to save one or two examples for this thread...


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: robomatic
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 12:59 AM

It's also quite easy to make mistakes as casual typos and then claim that is a part of one's creativity.

We should have a name for that other than spontaneity or serendipity. How about 'accitivity' (patent applied for).

When the chief pilot at my flying school went up in his tiger moth and fell out of a barrel roll or made a lopsided loop, he invariably claimed it was a new aerobatic maneuver he had just invented.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 06:39 AM

I laughingly admit that the shock, dismay and fainting spells over a spelling error is what passes for decorum here. Content, meaning and understanding will have to wait. For some it will be forever. "ooooo"
"Didja see that, he critisized the lack of decorum inherit in the system." :^/

"get'em!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 06:50 AM

And the meek shall inherent the earth...

No-one is going to criticise the occasional spelling mistake. All I was saying that it's good manners to review your post, a good facility provided here. No need to go to town, but it's respectful to other contributors.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Mr Red
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 08:46 AM

Spelling conveys meaning. If you want your massage to convey a proper feeling (ooer missus) it pays to pay attention not attend shun.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 09:44 AM

the thing is that your not bothering to check your spelling, or your grammar

Should that be "you're", Steve?

now, go and help your uncle jack off that horse

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 10:11 AM

Just after I read this I came across this on my news feed.

The history of humiliation points to the future of human dignity

Getting clever these cookies!


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Jos
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 10:23 AM

No, 'your' is correct in that sentence. To say 'you're' there would make nonsense of it.
Steve is talking about some people's failure to bother.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: meself
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 10:49 AM

A noun phrase - the verb, in this case, being "puts".


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 11:26 AM

Do you see how decorum has a short shelf life?
Dave, German Nazi's were the all time 10 year repeating champions of humiliation, torture and death.
'some people' practice condemnation like an art form and would sound like this if there were no mods but you guys aren't that clever.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 11:53 AM

My favorite use of the OP term is a fictional aunt's advice to a visiting adult niece, that while decorum was essential, abstinence was not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 01:23 PM

Yes. I know, Jos and think that Steve knows that I know too. Well, I hope so. We have a bond because are backgrounds are very similar. Us to are all two familiar with one or too people who don't no there grandma.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 01:24 PM

By the way. Is decorum 10 sailors taking their tots at the same time or one sailor taking 10 rations?


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 01:46 PM

Jos, I think you missed Dave’s little joke!

I am happy to make allowances for people who have genuine dyslexia or have not realised that they can turn predictive text off (as it frequently predicts rubbish!) but the things that really get me are errors of SPG (Spelling, punctuation and grammar) in official documents or even CD inserts. Apart from online spell-checkers and the like, there are real people out there who can proofread for you before you put your errors into 1,000,000 copies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Jos
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 02:33 PM

Evidently


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Raggytash
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 03:11 PM

At one time in my career I bought print for a large company. I was responsible for the proof reading. It was often a nightmare.

However I had one printer who would deliberately put one mistake in all the proofs he sent just to ensure I had proof read it correctly.

That saved a LOT of very costly mistakes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: robomatic
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 09:26 PM

DtG:

That illustration at the top of that article you referenced looks like a New Yorker cartoon begging for a caption!

"Typical Charles, never able to lend a hand when you need one!"

"Well which is it, scissors or paper?"

"One more off the dean's list!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 09:14 AM

I remember, when writing for publication, being advised to leave something for the proofreader to catch... or they would change something else, just to show they were doing their job.

Really good advice, that, for writers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 11:11 AM

I worked at a place where press releases were sent to the publication office and were usually left pretty much alone, though I was annoyed to see someone in that office put their by-line on my release. The guy who decided his job was to change them so much that they went from a press release to a nonsensical mashup didn't last long. Trying to prove that he was there doing his job didn't impress anyone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Michael
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 12:39 PM

What's decorum?
It's what you do to apples before you bake um.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 04:21 PM

now, go and help your uncle jack off that horse

ROTFLMAO


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 01:49 PM

Decorum disappeared when I said insemination instead of determintion
"Its up to the boss to make his final ..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 01:56 PM

Likewise, don't swap insinuation with insemination.
"He was only making an ...."


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 08:18 PM

DECORUM AND DEBATE

Rule 6.1. Interruption of ur server is prohibited

A. The business of Mudcat shall not be interrupted.

B. No person not a member shall be admitted to mudcat BS for the purpose of presenting or reading any petition, memorial, or address in open posts.

Rule 6.2. Decorous language

Every member shall confine himself to decorous language in addressing the Senate and shall make no personal or derogatory remark to or about any member.

Rule 6.3. Call to order for violation of rules; appeal

A. If any member violates the Rules of Order of Mudcat, in speech or otherwise, the President shall, and any member may, call him to order. Any member so called to order shall immediately take his seat unless the moderator permits him to explain his actions, upon his motion or that of another member duly adopted.

B. Every question of order shall be decided by the presiding officer, without debate, subject to an appeal to Mudcat. When an appeal is taken from the decision of the presiding officer, the decision of the presiding officer shall be overruled only if a majority of the members of Mudcat vote to overrule his decision. The presiding officer may call for the sense of the Senate on any question of order, but when an appeal has been taken from the decision of the presiding officer, any subsequent question of order which arises before the decision of the appeal by Mudcat shall be decided by the presiding officer without debate, and every appeal therefrom also shall be decided at once and without debate.

C. If, after being called to order, a member persists in a breach of decorum, it shall be duty of the President to reprimand the offending member. Upon his motion, or that of another member duly adopted, the member may be permitted to explain his actions. He may appeal the reprimand to Anonymous. The appeal shall be decided without debate.

D. If the member refuses to submit to reprimand or continues to be in disorder after reprimand, the President may cause him to be ejected from Mudcat for a stated period determined by the President or for such period as may be stated by the Senate upon motion duly adopted. In such case, he shall not again be admitted to the floor during the specified time, except by Max and upon such conditions and terms of apology as it may prescribe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 08:35 AM

That was the decorum rules for the US SENATE proposterously adapted for mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Decorum
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Feb 21 - 03:12 PM

Some twenty-five or so years ago,
Gladys Knight gave an interview while promoting
her book of memoirs,
Between Each Line Of Pain and Glory,
and I always think of that interview when I see the word
decorum.

I can't find a suitable link to that old interview,
or else I would link to it in this post.

She was talking about the break-up of yet another marriage, to motivational speaker Les Brown.

"It's not so much that I had a problem with his ex-girlfriends, because I have a lot of men friends, too. My thing was decorum. Whatever you do, there's a way to do it. If you're telling the world that I'm your joy and I'm your Number One, well, there has to be a commitment behind it."


Told to journalist Annette John-Hall for the
Philadelphia Inquirer.


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