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Subject: BS: Don't miss the Texas mess
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jun 21 - 02:45 PM

Recently the TX govenor called out the National Guard to oppose the ficticious invasion by U.N. troops. This winter they froze without power or water. Now the govenor has assumed powers of the legislature to not pay legislators in order to punish Democrat legislators for walking out instead of voting in the new voting restriction bill.

No need to miss a single moment of their antagonizing holocaust.
They also made buying a handgun as simple and paperwork free as buying a Snickers bar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jun 21 - 05:29 PM

The South shall antagonize
life, liberty and democracy
or they can finally grow wise
avoiding a rich man's autocracy.

They may prefer a military coup
to a massive bloody civil war
but it seems they want a zoo
of only one animal to adore


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jun 21 - 06:14 PM

This thread is a much anticipated peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Its important but nutty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Jun 21 - 11:46 PM

So long, mom!


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Jun 21 - 02:14 AM

There is a phrase that comes to mind, which is appropriate since politics is well ensconced as a branch of Hollywood:

"The lunatics taking over the asylum"


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jun 21 - 07:44 AM

Russia is watchubg and is in full support of the US insurrectionists. Fascist Hungary is watching. So is Turkey, Myanmar, Phillipines. Ben Rhodes writes that Japan is onvinced the US is spiraling into fascism.
The playbook for fascism is similar to all countries involving conspiracy theories and internal hate, replacing judges etc.
Democracies playbook seems waker in comparison


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Jun 21 - 10:29 AM

You should see it from inside the borders . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Jun 21 - 11:17 AM

it was mentioned in our news last night ...

wishing you good luck!


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Jun 21 - 12:43 PM

Austin is such a nice, progressive town - but that's where Texas politics happens!


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Jun 21 - 03:30 PM

Let's face it, who has the most to gain from a divided Europe? And a divided USA?

Iran, sure.... but.
China, notso - & their biggest markets outside China are?
Why would Russia meddle? Why wouldn't they?
Russia - well now who has the form? Who thinks nothing of killing ex-pat Russians in the UK? & then blatantly tries again, with a few "undecided" deaths along the way. Who just marches to Georgia, poisons the elected leader and while at it, annex a whole peninsular. And who hacked Hilary's e-mail and was brash enough to admit it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jun 21 - 09:16 AM

Russian malware closed gas staions here for a week. They have gone after hospitals during Covid. The Russian organizations call themselves '5 hands', dark side, REvil. Now they ransomed our hot dog supply. WHATS NEXT? For the 4th of July I'm guessing they will ransom Baseball and fireworks. The US will not respond in kind until Russian hackers shut off our electricity or Beer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jun 21 - 07:42 AM

State sponsored cyberwar began with project Mt. Olympus from the bowels of the NSA. It was an invisible program that would infect any digital system. Isreal got a hold of it an used their version against its enemies. Sadly they made it visible. The program went worldwide in all its varients like Covid. Sure Irans centrifuges to make high grade fissible fuel spun out of control but the seeds of a new battle field of warfare had begun.

Now outsourced hackers can destroy a nation with a keyboard.
The US is sheepish in retalliation for obvious reasons.

Just as I was right about 9-11, pandemics, ufo's and hundreds of other fiascos I am right about this as our new sword of Damacles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jun 21 - 11:48 AM

I don't see jim crow, I see Jim Crowasaurus
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/04/09/Texas-voting-GOP-suppression/


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jun 21 - 06:04 PM

Texas is in a humid drought. DC has a dewpoint of 54 (dry) and below 80.
Texas has an economy equivalent to Russia and had a taste of a Russian winter. Its politicians are mostly in favor of Putin over Biden.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Jun 21 - 06:30 PM

I don't know where you're getting your weather information, Don. It's near 100o today and has been very humid for the last month +.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jun 21 - 08:09 PM

I spoke of DC weather.
Today Texas democrat lawmakers are in DC and met with VP Harris and behind a closed door met Manchin.
Manchin was shocked shocked that college state ID's are insufficient to vote in Texas but a hunting license is all you need to vote.
When the supreme court thought it was a good idea to remove federal voting laws and gave it back to the states...I bet they saw this modern jim crow day coming.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Jun 21 - 03:35 AM

Texas has an economy equivalent to Russia and had a taste of a Russian winter. Its politicians are mostly in favor of Putin over Biden. T FOR TEXAS T FOR TENNESSES T FOR TOTALITARINSM THE THING THATS BEEN THE RUIN OF ME


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jun 21 - 07:32 AM

The Tex gov. says Texans will have to pay for the wall that was abandonned with taxes and crowd sourcing.

If they downsize those ambitions they might geterdone.
I have a few alternatives that come to mind;
The stuck bathroom stall wall.
The crawl wall, made of used pipeline full of fish hooks.
The Fire Ant wall.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Jun 21 - 12:40 PM

The governor of Texas is an idiot - none of the other border states have managed to raise money to build it through donations either. It's all hype for disappointed Trump supporters.

And, think about it. The federal government is the agency that does the eminent domain to take property to build a wall. The first time Texas tries it the landowner will take it to court and win because despite being situated on the border, the state doesn't have the authority to build an anti-immigrant barrier at the border. I'd bet money on it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: leeneia
Date: 17 Jun 21 - 03:50 PM

Surely any wall can be defeated by an explosive, by the right piece of heavy construction equipment or by a cutting torch. In some places, simple ladders are doing the trick already.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Mr Red
Date: 17 Jun 21 - 05:55 PM

First cold now heatwave. And power outages for both. I would bet Elon Musk is buying his own products for the back-up power for his factories.
Well it wouldn't look good for his "spaceships to Mars" if he couldn't get off the ground because the lights went out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: JHW
Date: 18 Jun 21 - 08:34 AM

'Surely any wall can be defeated by an explosive', Thats what builders of Mediaeval castles found so castles went out of fashion.
Anyway the Mexicans are going to pay for the wall, that's what Trump said and he was US Pr...


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: leeneia
Date: 19 Jun 21 - 12:33 PM

You're funny.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jun 21 - 08:54 PM

Henry the VIII used miners to dig under walls and blow them up from underground.

TX is not special in nutty authoritarians. Prisons reach 150 F in the summer without air conditioning. When body temperatures reach 109 many prisoners die. The official response is "Its prison", besides they claim adding air conditioning costs 100 million for their average 26 million dollar facility. I don't buy it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: leeneia
Date: 22 Jun 21 - 02:31 PM

That's terrible, Donuel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 22 Jun 21 - 05:53 PM

I desperately miss Molly Ivins.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 21 - 06:12 PM

1600 migrant children held in appalling conditions in a tent city at Fort Bliss, with an threatening aura of secrecy around it reminiscent of the old Soviet Union, sounds like a Texas mess that no-one should be missing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Jun 21 - 06:40 PM

Don't miss the mess?
Believe me, I don't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jun 21 - 08:36 PM

My golly I had hope for Texas with Miss Molly.
Ann Richards was a hoot too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jul 21 - 02:33 PM

This was coming since this thread was started:

Texas democratic legislators are fleeing to DC on 2 chartered jets to not allow republicans to have a quarum to pass new voting laws.
The govenor has ordered the TEXAS RANGERS (not the baseball team) to arrest the democrats and frog march them in handcuffs to the texas capitol.
I don't know how the extradition laws apply or if the arrests will be constitutional.

Who hired the charter flights has not been ascertained or if this is considered an aiding and abetting crime.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jul 21 - 03:19 PM

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/562406-man-in-texas-arrested-on-charges-for-illegal-voting-after-casting-ballot

He did not know the voting laws but as they say 'ignorance of the law is no excuse'. Now he faces 25 years to life.

I hear he voted for the wrong guy too.

Texas law is cruel, barbaric but fair?


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 03:50 PM

The lack of federal voting rights protections returns US to the pre-Civil War era. Pres. Biden involked the words civil war but the path to have federal voting rights includes getting rid of the filibuster which was not mentioned in a speech in Philadelphia today.

Republicans want the right to overturn an election with or without evidence of fraud. It looks like they could get away with it no matter how strange it sounds.


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Subject: 10,000 dollars if you turn in someones abortion
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 07:51 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/texas-abortion-lawsuit/2021/07/13/e0cee10c-e33c-11eb-b722-89ea0dde7771_story.

Abortion rights advocates and providers filed a federal lawsuit in Texas on Tuesday seeking to block a new state law empowering individuals to sue anyone who helps a woman get an abortion, including those who provide financial assistance or drive a patient to a clinic.

Anyone can win 10,000 grand OR MORE as an informant!

A dozen states have passed laws banning abortion after about six weeks of pregnancy. But the Texas law, set to take effect in September, goes further by incentivizing private citizens to help enforce the ban — awarding them at least $10,000 if their court challenges are successful. Even religious leaders who counsel a pregnant woman considering an abortion could be liable, according to the lawsuit filed in Austin by the Center for Reproductive Rights, Planned Parenthood and the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of several other groups.

Proponents of the measure, which had the backing of the Republican governor, cheered passage of the “heartbeat bill” as a landmark victory and denounced the lawsuit filed Tuesday.


But abortion providers say the law, known as S.B. 8, is unconstitutional and will subject them to endless lawsuits, shut down clinics and reduce services — and they say it will isolate abortion patients by undermining support networks for pregnant women.

“The state has put a bounty on the head of any person or entity who so much as gives a patient money for an abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, before most people know they are pregnant,” Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights, said in a statement. “Worse, it will intimidate loved ones from providing support for fear of being sued.”

Texas governor signs abortion bill banning procedure as early as six weeks into pregnancy

Although abortion patients themselves cannot be sued under the Texas law, a controlling parent, disapproving neighbor or abusive spouse could target the woman’s doctor in court to try to stop the abortion
Marva Sadler, director of clinical services for Whole Woman’s Health, which operates four clinics in the state, has encountered antiabortion protesters at work for more than 12 years and expects that she and her colleagues will be targeted by lawsuits.

“It’s really, really scary for me to imagine the people we pass through to go to work on a daily basis, who yell at us .?.?. now have the authority and ability to sue me at will,” Sadler said. “Not only is it an attack on the access, but it absolutely feels like a personal threat as well.”

A spokesperson for Texas state Sen. Bryan Hughes (R), who sponsored the bill, did not immediately comment on the lawsuit.

More than 85 percent of women who choose to terminate their pregnancies in Texas are at least six weeks into pregnancy, according to advocates, so the law would prevent nearly all abortions in the state, and operations at Sadler’s clinics would decrease, she said.

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Similar measures that ban abortion after a doctor detects a fetal heartbeat, or around six weeks of pregnancy, have passed recently in other states, including this year in Idaho and Oklahoma. But federal judges have prevented those measures from taking effect.

An upcoming Supreme Court review of a Mississippi abortion law could pave the way for many other state laws that restrict or ban the procedure. (Joshua Carroll/The Washington Post)
The Texas law is more difficult to block, opponents say, because it is enforced by private lawsuits, not state government officials who are typically the defendants in federal constitutional challenges.

Instead, those behind the new federal suit are using a novel legal approach, taking aim at every state trial court judge and county court clerk in Texas, plus the attorney general and state medical boards.

They are asking a federal judge to prevent any of the state’s trial court judges, potentially more than 1,000 throughout Texas, from enforcing the law and to block court clerks from accepting the lawsuits.


Mark Lee Dickson, the director of Right to Life of East Texas, who has encouraged people to take action and offered to recommend lawyers, is also named as a defendant.

In a Facebook post Tuesday, Dickson wrote, “The only thing more ridiculous than this lawsuit is the fact that we have people, right here in Texas, who are fighting to end the lives of innocent unborn children.”

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) signed the legislation in May and celebrated what he called a victory for Texans.

“Our creator endowed us with the right to life, and yet millions of children lose their right to life every year because of abortion,” Abbott said at a closed-door ceremony. “In Texas, we work to save those lives. That’s exactly what the Texas Legislature did this session.”

Supreme Court to review Mississippi abortion law that advocates see as a path to diminish Roe v. Wade

The lawsuit comes as abortion opponents have passed state regulations and are eyeing a more conservative Supreme Court to reexamine Roe v. Wade’s guarantee of the right to choose an abortion.

The justices announced in May that they will review a restrictive Mississippi law that would ban almost all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. In taking the case, the court said it will examine whether “all ­pre-viability prohibitions on elective abortions are unconstitutional.”

Before the Texas measure passed this spring, more than 300 lawyers in the state, including former judges and law professors, wrote to legislators raising constitutional concerns.

They urged the lawmakers not to “weaponize the judicial system” by exempting these lawsuits from “the normal guardrails that protect Texans from abusive lawsuits and provide all litigants a fair and efficient process in our state courts.”

Opponents of the law also say it will disproportionately affect Black and Hispanic communities and low-income women who already encounter barriers to health care. Nationally, 3 out of 4 abortion patients are poor or have low incomes and struggle to cover the cost of the procedure, transportation to a clinic or child care, according to the lawsuit. Data compiled by the state indicates that nearly two-thirds of all abortions performed in Texas during the past five years involved Black and Hispanic women.
Marc Hearron, senior counsel for the Center for Reproductive Rights, said that if the measure is not blocked before September, the potential lawsuits will force doctors and health clinics to spend time and money defending themselves in court and put providers at risk.

The law “allows any ideologically motivated party out there to bring a case across the state,” Hearron said. Lawmakers, he said, intended to “distract and prevent providers from being able to provide constitutionally protected health care to their patients.”


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 08:06 PM

Texas politics is a hot mess right now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 08:11 PM

Everyone can be an abortion bounty hunter in Texas. 10 grand is enough to guarantee people will go to great lengths to pry into illegal wombs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jul 21 - 10:38 AM

Tennessee OUTDID Texas!
They banned all outreach to adolescents regarding ALL vaccines as well as vaccinations on school property. They threatened to abolish the health department.
TN is famous for banning evolution with the Scopes trial.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Aug 21 - 07:15 AM

In a 19 county radius in Texas there are no more Pediatric ICU's
due to Delta Covid. Its bad. Really bad for the anti maskers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Aug 21 - 07:28 AM

edit
There are no more ICU 'beds' !

We have the right to; be stupid, free speech, peacefully assemble, and believe what you will.

The TX govenor is deciding for children with anti mandate protections
which is HORRIBLE.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Aug 21 - 08:58 AM

In fairness TX is one of 7 states to impose barriers to a child's protection.

I propose a new law that all; anti vaxxers, undecided voters, Q anon, White Nationalists, Scientologist and Facebook Assinine Bold Liar Enthusiasts (FABLE)...

Relocate to Texas or volunteer for Eternal Martyrdom (execution for their cause).
They will have the freedom to choose. :>}

Of course I am kidding. I do not find America irredeemable and forever be ignorant and militantly bigoted just because conservatives went off the rails for Trump.
A 'I alone can fix it!' guy is bound to come along again. We are more resiliant to mistakes time and again. We are starting to tone zealotry down. So we will see 'cancel culture' as bad as 'Trumpism' and find a sensible balance. I see this miniscule forum an early example of larger changes to come. People do not want to live always by hatefullness and toxic invectives. The pendulum will drop to the middle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Aug 21 - 05:53 PM

The piece de resitance with a cherry on top is that the Govenor of Texas has Covid despite being vaccinated.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Aug 21 - 10:53 AM

He's getting the monoclonal antibody treatment also, but I hold out no hope that he'll learn his lesson from this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Aug 21 - 03:15 PM

He may find the symptoms are mild, being vaccinated. So his impression will be "Just like 'flu"


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 19 Aug 21 - 03:28 AM

I propose a new law that all; anti vaxxers, undecided voters, Q anon, White Nationalists, Scientologist and Facebook Assinine Bold Liar Enthusiasts (FABLE)...

Why include undecided voters in that list? They are the very life blood of democracy. If everybody voted for "my party, right or wrong" then change could only happen as older voters died and were replaced by younger ones. It is only the floating voters, who make their decision on recent performance and current/future needs, who keep the politicians in line.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Aug 21 - 09:39 PM

Our elections can drag out for 2 years. If you can't decide in that period of time what are you waiting for. An October surprise? <:-o

Usually the typical Texas politician is just a craven cracker criminal but now the lieutenate govenor said "The outbreak in Texas of the China virus is from Black democrats who will not vaccinate."


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Oct 21 - 07:49 PM

Texas is the nexus
of evil government
in the good'ol USA.

The govenor on down
the hierarchy
is anti democracy

Elections, abortions
Vaccine mandates
are on death row

Gunmen at Walmart can
shoot folks legally
and with impunity

(Them illegal immigrants had it comin)

Its an institution
in Texas to ignore the
US Constitution


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 13 Oct 21 - 10:28 AM

Doonesbury - What country is this? October 10, 2021

Reader's comments


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Oct 21 - 11:52 AM

Best post here, Sandra.
When my warnings were most crtisized I switched over to cartoon form.
I think 2 people remember.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Oct 21 - 01:46 PM

Is it under the x in Texas??


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 13 Oct 21 - 08:08 PM

I've been collecting cartoons for over 50 years, nowadays only on-line cartoons.

I do admire cartoonists - a few lines, a caption & they nail the problem/news item.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Oct 21 - 10:39 PM

My fav is Tom Toles for politics and for the odd & far out Gahon Wilson and Gary Larsen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 14 Oct 21 - 04:00 AM

I didn't know Tom Toles name, but I've seen his work. I've never seen Wilson's work before, but Larson is well known here.

my favourite American cartoonist

my favourite Australian cartoonist, master of minimum lines


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Oct 21 - 09:08 AM

It is easier and safer to tell the truth in cartoons, then Islamic cartoonist killers came along. We have now entered the domestic incivility of the armed Brown shirt threats and violence.

if the average IQ is 100 then the trumpists own the first half.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Oct 21 - 10:08 AM

The Govenor of Texas has virtually legalized euthanasia with banning mandates for masks and vaccines.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: leeneia
Date: 15 Oct 21 - 05:48 PM

Somehow I doubt that a state governor can overturn a federal law. Meanwhile, Southwest Airlines and American Airlines have told Abbott they will be ignoring him.

What are the airlines supposed to do? Order unvaccinated pilots and attendants to parachute out of the plane over the Texas border? Because unvaccinated employees cannot legally be in other states.

Me, I think this order, like the abortion law, is a foolish ploy meant to distract media from drilling home how many Texans are suffering and dying from Covid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 16 Oct 21 - 03:26 AM

In the news today that the curriculum director at a Texas school has decreed that, when teaching students about the Holocaust, ‘opposing views’ must also be offered. WTAF?

Even for the US’s Most-Batshit-Crazy State, this is surely insanity on steroids?


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Oct 21 - 06:01 AM

Discussing with children (always at an appropriate age) that Holocaust denial is a big problem in the world, and why it's a big problem, would be fine with me. Catholic schools should be telling the kids about other religions and none (mine didn't, except to peddle the untruth that only Catholics went to heaven). Etcetera. But giving any kind of platform to Holocaust deniers, or to legitimise Holocaust denial by promoting those views as a respectable equal-but-opposite, is simply telling lies to children.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Oct 21 - 09:18 AM

Opposing views and alternate facts sounds familiar. I suppose German oven manufacturers could celebrate the holocaust along with racists, murderers, bankers, real estate, art dealers...

Still learning about public lynching, and now public shooting, strangulation, imprisonment of dark skinned people and that the only good Indian is a dead Indian, should have opposing views.

With certain social and financial pressures it only took a highly civilized nation like Germany to become the epitomy of evil. It could happen to America like its happening in Texas. We at least have a heads up, this time around. In combination with Pandemic, Facebook and its deniers, it makes matters less hopeful.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Oct 21 - 09:34 AM

edit*: With certain social and financial pressures it only took a highly civilized nation like Germany [12-15 years]* to become the epitomy of evil.

Note: many people in Texas already feel seperate and apart from the US and resent outside interference by a federal constution, power grid and Washington DC.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Oct 21 - 09:58 AM

Texas has a saying/credo "Don't Mess with Texas" and a phrase that negates/overcomes justice "He had it Comin".


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Oct 21 - 10:30 AM

Germany didn't become the epitome of evil (as an aside, do a little thought experiment and project what response you'd get if you said that Israel is the epitome of evil: there are good ways and less good ways of saying things...). A vicious, fascist regime hoodwinked the German people into believing in them and demonising an enemy within that wasn't an enemy at all. The German people were and are no different from people anywhere else. They were extremely vulnerable to that kind of persuasion as a result of the privations visited on them following WW1. Yes we have the heads-up but complacency is dangerous. You have to stop Trump from running again, as he's sure to win if he's allowed to. That'll be a damn sight bigger mess than even Texas (or Boris Johnson, come to think of it) could manage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 21 - 05:28 PM

Texas began the tradition of mass shooting from the UT tower in Austin.
6th St. is known for music and Rainy St. for overpriced real estate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Oct 21 - 09:04 PM

NPR's All Things Considered had a feature story this week,
too quick for me but just enough to hold one's attention.
This one is about Congressional districts and what is known as
gerrymandering.
It's happening in Texas now, according to the report on the air.
And it happened in a very, how to say,
businesslike fashion,
with little public fanfare and a lot of behind-closed-doors planning.


I don't know how it is possible, with gerrymandering,
for Texas to go from having
one congressional district with a high African-American population
to having ...
zero such districts. How??


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Oct 21 - 07:27 AM

decades of experience in carving out areas with corridors and bubbles from adjacent districts is a game more advanced than candy crush.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Oct 21 - 01:01 PM

I heard a story this week about how the cities in states bordering Texas are seeing an influx of abortion clients coming in from Texas, and it is jamming up their operations because they haven't scaled up for the extra capacity. The women in those states are having trouble getting appointments for timely abortions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: leeneia
Date: 25 Oct 21 - 01:09 PM

In 2020 the TX attorney general offered a bounty to anyone who identified voter fraud after Trump lost. This week he finally paid something - $25,000 to a Pennsylvania man who spotted one case of a man voting twice - for Trump.

The cash came from the AG's campaign fund. Can that be legal?


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Oct 21 - 01:17 PM

IT certainly seems not, but the check was shown in a photo with that information, so check back at 11 for details.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 21 - 05:33 PM

Campaign finance laws are as changeable as the weather but war chests are the holy grail. I'm not a lawywer so I don't know what is legal today. I'm just surprised that AG honored a promise.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 21 - 05:35 PM

footnote: There are some good things about Texas that sound good on paper.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 21 - 11:49 AM

If you go to Austin, the Driscoll is a nice hotel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Oct 21 - 08:10 PM

Ted Cruz Senator from Texas made an impassioned speech today that 'parents' protesting at school board meetings SHOULD NOT be critisized for doing the Nazi salute because it is central to free speech.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Nov 21 - 09:51 PM

Thousands of Qanon fanatics gathered in Dallas TX today where JFK was killed to see JFK's son reveal himself not dead and announce he will be Trump's running mate in 2024. https://www.forbes.com/sites/teakvetenadze/2021/11/02/qanon-believers-gather-in-dallas-awaiting-return-of-long-dead-jfk-jr/?sh=2


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Nov 21 - 09:11 AM

A stampede in a 50,000 strong crowd of concert goers in Houston has killed 8 and wounded hundreds.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Nov 21 - 10:31 AM

That isn't just a Texas thing, though. That's a big uncontrolled crowd thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: leeneia
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 04:32 PM

Donuel, there weren't thousands of people there, maybe 200 or 500, and many of them were probably there to report, to laugh, or to support some wacky relative.

The crush at the Travis Scott concert was absolutely terrible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 09:42 AM

General admission at mass events may change.

500 is about right for Qanon attendees. It is however an internet cult.

Ted Cruz has lost his alligence with Oscar the Grouch because attacking his annoying friend Big Bird was going too far. Actual Press release.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Nov 21 - 10:13 AM

Gimme dat ol' time racism
Gimme dat ol' time racism
Gimme dat ol' time racism
Its good enuf fer Texas
Its good enuf fer me.

'Which side are you on?'
'My daddy was a nazi'
'Where have all the lefties gone'

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Subject: RE: BS: Don't miss the mess in Texas
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Nov 21 - 05:05 AM

Vax the Jews banners, nuke Isreal posters and arson of the Democratic headquarters and Synagoge in Texas is a tip of the 'right wing politcs' iceburg in Texas this month. Th Arsonists were caught but one is out on 2,500 dollars bail already.


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