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BS: What would be ironic?

Donuel 11 Jun 21 - 06:49 PM
Steve Shaw 11 Jun 21 - 07:02 PM
Donuel 11 Jun 21 - 08:16 PM
SPB-Cooperator 12 Jun 21 - 05:05 AM
Donuel 12 Jun 21 - 06:38 AM
Mrrzy 12 Jun 21 - 09:27 AM
Mr Red 12 Jun 21 - 09:39 AM
Dave Hanson 12 Jun 21 - 02:22 PM
Donuel 12 Jun 21 - 03:04 PM
Lighter 12 Jun 21 - 03:33 PM
Mr Red 13 Jun 21 - 06:16 AM
Lighter 13 Jun 21 - 10:27 AM
Donuel 13 Jun 21 - 01:47 PM
robomatic 13 Jun 21 - 04:05 PM
Donuel 13 Jun 21 - 04:53 PM
Steve Shaw 13 Jun 21 - 04:56 PM
leeneia 13 Jun 21 - 11:26 PM
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Donuel 14 Jun 21 - 06:37 AM
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Steve Shaw 15 Jun 21 - 03:56 AM
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Donuel 16 Jun 21 - 06:33 AM
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Subject: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jun 21 - 06:49 PM

If Biden and Putin declare a cyber war while meeting in Switzerland
It might be ironic.

If Bezos and his brother crashed into a Tesla Roadster while orbiting the Earth
It might be ironic.

If Boris Johnson marries his next wife in a bunker
it might be ironic


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Jun 21 - 07:02 PM

Maybe they all are, but maybe you don't really know what ironic means. You are by no means alone.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jun 21 - 08:16 PM

predicted and expected burn post

If the entire Trump family were victims of a mass shooting at a QAnon convention
it might be ironic


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 12 Jun 21 - 05:05 AM

If that were to happened it would be a pretty safe bet that the mass shooting was carried out by an anti-firearms protestor - a real humdinger of a conspiracy theory.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jun 21 - 06:38 AM

butitwouldn't be
ironic

The death of Trump is an enevitable conspiracy theory waiting to happen. Think of all the audits and 'redo overs' of the autopsies.
Think of the marketing of an actual 'piece of Trump'.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Jun 21 - 09:27 AM

Wrinkles?


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Jun 21 - 09:39 AM

No, wrinkles are an "iron on it" - or should be.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 12 Jun 21 - 02:22 PM

Americans don't understand ' irony ' as Edmund Blackadder said, ' you don't really understand irony do you Baldrick, yes it's like coppery but made of iron.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jun 21 - 03:04 PM

:~)


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Lighter
Date: 12 Jun 21 - 03:33 PM

Oxford:

"Irony...A state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what was or might be expected; an outcome cruelly, humorously, or strangely at odds with assumptions or expectations."

Merriam-Webster:

"Irony... incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result."

So draw your own conclusions.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Jun 21 - 06:16 AM

Americans don't understand ' irony '

er Ambrose Bierce, Bob Newhart, Stephen Colbert, Randy Newman, TomLehrer

Call me a pedant. But I always envisage the plethora of languages means subtlety is a difficult act to pull off in that audience. Some have made a living at it!


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Lighter
Date: 13 Jun 21 - 10:27 AM

About 15 years ago, an in-flight consumers' catalogue was offering for sale high-quality prints of an aviation painting that depicted a vintage DC-3 turning on its approach to an airport in the 1930s or '40s. The airport, if I remember correctly, had some special connection with the DC-3; let's say it was Atlanta. The ad read something like, "Ironically, [the artist] was born in Atlanta."

It impressed me because there was no conceivable irony in the fact, but the adverb did make pure coincidence or trivial inspiration sound significant and entertaining.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jun 21 - 01:47 PM

My irony jokes use the template of "You might be a redneck."


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: robomatic
Date: 13 Jun 21 - 04:05 PM

Dontrumpuel's posts are often ironic when he selects for his condemnation a political figure whom he emulates so much in the BS category.

Not really a burn. Just a fact.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jun 21 - 04:53 PM

robomatic:
I met the remnants of my family that escaped Hitler's clutchs which is why I studied the 3rd Reich and Trump similarities. Whats your excuse for making fun of my being anti fascist?

It is you who is on the gun psychotic side. (as recently demonstrated)


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Jun 21 - 04:56 PM

One fine day you'll examine your conscience, Donuel.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: leeneia
Date: 13 Jun 21 - 11:26 PM

I'm not sure "ironic" actually has a meaning any more, except in the vague sense of a twist in the course of events.

I've read that somebody put pink flamingos on his yard ironically, because he knew pink flamingos are corny. Okayeee....

The Onion once had a headline: "Young hipsters dine at Applebee's ironically." Applebee's is a mediocre restaurant chain. Okayeee...

If I scrubbed and polished my tile floor to kill dangerous microbes, then slipped and fell on it because it was slippery, that too would be ironic.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jun 21 - 04:20 AM

If I scrubbed my kitchen floor to kill food poisoning microbes, then got the germs from the scrubbing cloth on my pork pie and got food poisoning from it, that would be ironic. In the case of a particularly tasty pork pie, it would be delicious irony.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 21 - 06:37 AM

Thats the spirit.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: leeneia
Date: 14 Jun 21 - 10:58 AM

Good one, Steve.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jun 21 - 09:13 PM

Why would you put the scrubbing rag on your food?


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Jun 21 - 03:56 AM

You might use it to "clean" your kitchen worktop, then put the food on the worktop. People do crackpot things at times.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jun 21 - 08:09 AM

Clean? People still do that?


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: leeneia
Date: 15 Jun 21 - 10:29 PM

The Merriam Webster definition is " incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result".

That seams weak. If I make a souffle and it collapses, that would fit the definition, but it wouldn't be ironic. For something to be ironic a moral, pretentious or humorous element must be involved.

I just saw something deliciously ironic on YouTube. A line of cars was stopped on a multi-lane road, and a motorcyclist decided to get cute and drive on a long, thin island (median strip) to get around the blockage. He drove to the end of the island, stopped because he didn't want to drop off it, and found himself next to a stopped police car. Nya nya nya nya na


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Mr Red
Date: 16 Jun 21 - 02:24 AM

You might use it to "clean" your kitchen worktop

Leave me outa that "you" thankyou. What goes on the floor, stays on the floor.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Jun 21 - 04:30 AM

I haven't seen that YouTube, leeneia, but irony would have have resulted had the motorcyclist been delayed by the policeman (booking him or telling him off, for example) for more time than he'd gained by trying to cheat the traffic. Getting caught for breaking rules isn't in itself ironic.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jun 21 - 06:33 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Lighter
Date: 16 Jun 21 - 07:46 AM

I think the sense of "incongruity" meant by the MW definition is "incompatibility."

A collapsed souffle' is perfectly compatible with trying to make a souffle'. You may not expect it, but you know it's a not uncommon event.

But I agree that Oxford does a better job of describing what's usually meant by "irony":

"A state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what was or might be expected; an outcome cruelly, humorously, or strangely at odds with assumptions or expectations."

Irony seems like an example of perverse fate rather than a logical or commonplace result.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: Mr Red
Date: 17 Jun 21 - 05:50 PM

Methinks there are those of this parish that use ire-onic masquerading a wit.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be plastic?
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Jun 21 - 07:01 AM

A what, who, when, why and where could all be ironic.


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Subject: RE: BS: What would be ironic?
From: BobL
Date: 19 Jun 21 - 02:12 AM

Irony is Murphy being bloody-minded.


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