Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Aug 21 - 11:06 AM That's the spirit, Dick, but you really need to work on your material. I loved the first one but the next two did not make much sense. I didn't get the second one at all and during the third I wasn't sure if I was a gnome or a gnun. How did codswallop turn into holy water anyway? 8/10 for effort but only 3/10 for content. As a comedian you do make a very good folk singer though. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Tattie Bogle Date: 24 Aug 21 - 04:42 PM Sorry to interrupt this flow of banter, but just remembered that as students in the East End of London, we adopted quite a few of those Yiddish terms and other not-so-Yiddish phrases: Can I schnorrer five bob? It’s a real schlepp dahn Stepney Green New dress: nice piece of schmatta! And expressing surprise: So soon, already, my life! |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 24 Aug 21 - 05:57 PM Thanks Tattie. Good to get back to the point rather than getting mythered by wassocks :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: HuwG Date: 24 Aug 21 - 09:38 PM Dave the Gnome, you have reminded me of a Gary Delaney joke, which emphasises the importance of capitalisation and punctuation. "I went to the Doctor. He said 'You need to lose weight. Don't eat anything fatty.'" "You mean I should cut out burgers, chips [US = fries], that sort of thing?" "He said 'No. Don't eat anything, Fatty!'" |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 25 Aug 21 - 03:05 AM Huw- :-D I'm pinching that one |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: The Sandman Date: 25 Aug 21 - 03:25 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKxLbYDpSUE |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: The Sandman Date: 25 Aug 21 - 03:28 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q5IzLBwWaQ |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: The Sandman Date: 25 Aug 21 - 03:36 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak08oFHQKM8 Posh Words to use Posh English Vocabulary How to Sound POSH British English Pronunciation |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: The Sandman Date: 25 Aug 21 - 03:57 AM some words only posh people use Bins (binoculars) - 'Pass me those bins so I can have a good look at that Hooded Warbler.' Marvellous - 'She has a marvellous chin.' Jolly - 'Jolly good', 'Jolly bad', 'You're jolly well going to write your thank-you letters whether you like it or not.' Rather - 'Do I think the Marquess of Douro is handsome? Rather.' Read next Beastly - 'Darling, please stop being beastly to your sister.' Terribly - 'I'm afraid I divorced him because he turned out to be terribly dull.' Bate (mood) - 'There's no need to fly into a bate just because I confiscated your horse.' Yonks (ages) - 'It's been yonks since I wore my tiara.' Tight (drunk) - 'I've been drinking since lunchtime and I'm afraid I'm now rather tight.' Read next Blotto (really drunk) - 'Can't talk. Need bed. Absolutely blotto.' Seedy (ill) - 'I've been feeling seedy all morning.' Gigs (glasses) - 'Has anyone seen my gigs? I'm squinting at the Times crossword without them.' Bind (problematic situation) - 'I know it's a bind, but you may have to sell one of your castles.' Jersey (jumper) - 'The dog has gnawed a hole in my jersey, may I borrow one of yours?' Ass (fool) - 'He's a perfect ass.' Golly - 'Golly, is that your yacht?' Bugger - 'That mole has ruined my lawn, the bugger!' Rugger (rugby) - 'I have to go and watch Archie play rugger on Saturday.' Brick (reliable, trustworthy) - 'She's been an absolute brick since I got expelled for sneaking the gardener into dorms.' Read next Ravishing - 'I saw the most ravishing girl selling cheese at the Moreton-in-Marsh outdoor market.' Slut (for its original meaning of slovenly) - 'You must brush your hair or people will think you're the most dreadful slut.' Bad luck - 'I heard you lost an eye wildfowling last weekend, bad luck.' I believe, plagerized from here. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Raggytash Date: 25 Aug 21 - 05:19 AM Don't know where you got your list from dick but my friends and I use many (not all) of those words in our everyday speech and I doubt if any of us would describe ourselves as "posh" |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 25 Aug 21 - 07:35 AM Me too. Seems to be a C&P from The Tatler but I thought only posh peopl eread that :-D |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: The Sandman Date: 25 Aug 21 - 07:48 AM I would describe anyone who uses those words as as posh |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Senoufou Date: 25 Aug 21 - 08:27 AM My (very) Norfolk neighbour often tells me I'm 'roit lah-de-dah'. I don't think I am (and I don't use any of those words in your interesting list!) But she says my accent is 'loik wun o' they paaarsh Lunnon cooves'. I think there are many aspects to how one is 'judged' :- accent, vocabulary, social status and profession, origin (where born, where brought up) I find all this diversity absolutely fascinating. Wouldn't it be horribly dreary if we all spoke in exactly the same way? |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Sol Date: 25 Aug 21 - 08:42 AM Re. Seoufou's "Wouldn't it be horribly dreary if we all spoke in exactly the same way?" Agree 100%. Vive La Difference. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 25 Aug 21 - 10:20 AM I think you would describe anyone who can use punctuation and capitals correctly as posh, Dick! :-D |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Backwoodsman Date: 25 Aug 21 - 11:05 AM ROTFLMAO! |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: The Sandman Date: 25 Aug 21 - 12:04 PM Fuck Off. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Raggytash Date: 25 Aug 21 - 12:18 PM Well, well. That is not an expression you often hear in polite circles!! |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Backwoodsman Date: 25 Aug 21 - 01:37 PM But I have heard a lot of posh people say “Fack Orrff”. Trouble is, it doesn’t sound like swearing when a posh person says it! |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 25 Aug 21 - 03:15 PM At least it was capitalised. Even though the second one was superfluous. Better than the previous attempts at humour too :-D Sorry Dick. I know I should stop but the temptation is too great when you keep leading with your chin. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: The Sandman Date: 25 Aug 21 - 04:21 PM Fuck Off. Do you understand. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Raggytash Date: 25 Aug 21 - 05:04 PM I think Dave was trying to explain, although I realise this is difficult to a person of limited intellegence, that you should have written "Fuck off" not "Fuck Off" Just a little grammer and correct use of the language. :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Manitas_at_home Date: 26 Aug 21 - 12:20 AM Grammar. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Backwoodsman Date: 26 Aug 21 - 02:07 AM I think Raggy was being ironic, Manitas… |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 26 Aug 21 - 03:08 AM You should have used a question mark after "Do you understand". Capisce? |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: The Sandman Date: 26 Aug 21 - 05:21 AM Limited intelligence. I am intelligent enought to recognise a Champagne socialist, a troll and a nasty unpleasant little prick. Capitalisation and punctuation have nothing to do with intelligence. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Raggytash Date: 26 Aug 21 - 05:45 AM We all have limited intelligence dick, it's just that some people have a higher limit than others. Now, some people may castigate me for not using a capital letter in what appears to be my use of your name. However I was using dick in the colloquial sense. The word eponymous comes to mind. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Steve Shaw Date: 26 Aug 21 - 05:54 AM White van man rear bumper sticker I once spotted: Badly driven? Visit gofuckyourself.co.uk |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Senoufou Date: 26 Aug 21 - 06:11 AM This thread should be re-named 'Regional Slanging Match'. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Raggytash Date: 26 Aug 21 - 06:21 AM :-) !! |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 26 Aug 21 - 07:10 AM Well done, Dick. You got that nearly right. There is some discussion on the use of commas in cumulative adjectives but, in the main, if they are all of the same group you do not use commas. Take "nasty unpleasant little prick" for instance. I think that no comma is required between nasty and unpleasant, as they are cumulative, but maybe you should have put one between unpleasant and little. Of course they may not be adjectives at all as "prick" is more commonly a verb. As in "This injection is a nasty unpleasant little prick" where you would not use commas at all unless it was an introductory adverb. But I think we are getting ahead of ourselves. I am pleased with your progress so far. Keep it up! :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 26 Aug 21 - 07:18 AM Nearly forgot to add that you are also right saying "Capitalisation and punctuation have nothing to do with intelligence". They do have a lot to do with being able to communicate though. Having all the intelligence in the world would be of no benefit to anyone else if you were unable to get your ideas across. This is a forum that relies entirely on the written word. The odd mistake or two is forgivable but complete incoherance makes everyones life difficult. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Doug Chadwick Date: 26 Aug 21 - 07:19 AM On slow news days, our local newspaper fills its pages with articles such as "Thirty expressions that show you are from Grimsby". While some of them are truly local, such as 'Meggie' for someone born in Cleethorpes, many of them are common across the north of England and are far from unique to Grimsby. Some words and phrases are used within families and a family across the street may use a different set of slang terms to cover the same things. Films and television have introduced so many different accents and dialects into our living rooms, both from home and abroad, that very few slang terms can be claimed to be truly regional. DC |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Doug Chadwick Date: 26 Aug 21 - 11:12 AM An example of the effects of television in spreading slang: After watching an episode of "The Bill", I asked a police constable friend of mine if detectives really called their senior officers "Guv". The answer was "They do now". DC |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Mr Red Date: 26 Aug 21 - 01:46 PM Black country (maybe) Ganzy - jumper (probably derived from Guernsey cf Jersey) |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 26 Aug 21 - 02:02 PM I always understood it to be derived from Guernsey, Mr R, but where I were brung up (Swinton, Manchester) Ganzy was used for a sleeveless, usually fancy, pullover. Funny how things get changed init? |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Backwoodsman Date: 26 Aug 21 - 02:24 PM Those sleeveless things were ‘Tank-Tops’ here in the Backwoods. Gawd knows why! |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 26 Aug 21 - 02:46 PM I only came across the term "tank top" in the 70s when they seemed to make a return to the fashion scene. I always thought they had a scooped neckline rather than the V-neck of the Ganzy. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: fat B****rd Date: 26 Aug 21 - 03:32 PM Speaking of my home town, I believe a "Meggie" was a bus/tram ticket from Cleethorpes to Grimsby. And still on the subject of Grimsby etc, how exactly does one go "Eggin' back o'Doigs" ?? |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Steve Shaw Date: 26 Aug 21 - 03:40 PM Ganzy was routine in our house. Radcliffe, tha knows... |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Doug Chadwick Date: 26 Aug 21 - 05:19 PM I believe a "Meggie" was a bus/tram ticket from Cleethorpes to Grimsby. Well, that is another explanation to be added to the list of possibilities that I have heard. ... how exactly does one go "Eggin' back o'Doigs" ?? With difficulty, it would seem, as there aren't many trees in a shipyard. It would seem to be the equivalent of 'going to see a man about a dog' as giving an evasive answer to a question. It's not a phrase that I have ever heard used but, since Doig's closed almost 20 years before I arrived in in Grimsby, that's not too surprising. DC |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Dave the Gnome Date: 26 Aug 21 - 05:40 PM They are posh in Radcliffe. Get out o't' bath to pee an everything. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Backwoodsman Date: 27 Aug 21 - 02:20 AM I was told, many years ago, by friends in Grimsby and Cleethorpes, that a ‘Meggie’ is a person born in Cleethorpes - ‘Meg’s Island’ being an old name (possibly nickname) for Cleethorpes. And back in the ‘60s and ‘70s there was a folk-group from the area called ‘The Meggies’, later to become ‘The Broadside’. Well-known members were John Connolly and the wonderful Brian Dawson. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: gnomad Date: 27 Aug 21 - 03:49 AM I have this direct from Dave, the author of 'Egging...' as far a HE knew I'm from Hull and consequently ignorant of the phrase. "'Egging' is playing outside. It derives from collecting bird's eggs (for food, times were hard then)." He was right, in that I didn't know the term, but I was already an incomer in Hull. |
Subject: RE: BS: regional uk slang From: Doug Chadwick Date: 27 Aug 21 - 07:54 AM ... how exactly does one go "Eggin' back o'Doigs" ?? ....... With difficulty, it would seem, as there aren't many trees in a shipyard. I suppose you could have been collecting eggs from sea birds which had nested on ledges of the ship repair buildings. I am no ornithologist, so don't quote me on this. DC |