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Subject: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021) From: Helen Date: 24 Aug 21 - 02:54 PM Charlie Watts, the legendary drummer in The Rolling Stones, has passed away. Charlie Watts I am not and never really was a fan of the Stones, but whenever I saw them on TV it was Charlie Watts who drew my attention every time. On reading the above article I discovered that he was a jazz drummer and formed his own jazz band. Rest in peace, Sir. Great respect. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021) From: GUEST,Roger Date: 24 Aug 21 - 03:27 PM It must be a week for bad news. RIP Charlie. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021) From: Helen Date: 24 Aug 21 - 03:51 PM Yes, it seems so. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021) From: Helen Date: 24 Aug 21 - 04:35 PM Typo in my first post: I meant to say, I am not and never was a fan of The Rolling Stones. Except for the songs Paint It Black and Ruby Tuesday. Your other post was corrected. ---mudelf |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021) From: Tattie Bogle Date: 24 Aug 21 - 06:22 PM Sorry to hear this too: unlike Helen, I was a big fan of The Stones, having seen them in my student days when they were still "on the rise". And Charlie was my favourite Stone. In the contest between Beatles and Stones, well I liked both, but the Stones won by a short margin. Agree with Helen's choice of songs, as well as "Play with Fire" - the latter appealed to me, as we lived in Stepney as students - "now she gets her kicks in Stepney, not in Knightsbridge any more". Last saw them at Murrayfield in Edinburgh a few years back. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021) From: gillymor Date: 24 Aug 21 - 08:00 PM Not a flashy drummer but he was solid and driving and obviously a good fit for the Stones. Apparently he was also a pretty decent guy who famously cold-cocked Jagger when Mick once refered to him as "my drummer". |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021) From: Helen Date: 24 Aug 21 - 08:40 PM gillymor, I'm not sure I want to even ask what that means. I'm definitely not going to Google it, either. LOL The article I linked to shows Charlie Watts as a good man who was not taken in by rock & roll stardom and the accompanying lifestyle. When I used to see the band on TV I remember that Charlie and Bill Wyman would be at the rear of the stage, exchanging (relatively) quiet comments while the other two would be doing the full rock & roll over-the-top cavorting and carrying on. It doesn't surprise me that Charlie wanted to get the next plane home when they were on tour. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021) From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Aug 21 - 09:18 PM Is the problem "cold cocked?" It means to punch someone and knock them out. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021) From: Helen Date: 24 Aug 21 - 09:27 PM Thanks Maggie. I wouldn't be inclined to say it in Australia because it would probably be misinterpreted or at least get a few laughs. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 25 Aug 21 - 03:59 AM Yes, he always wanted to be a big band jazz drummer and the money from his Stones work enabled him to finance that dream, his horses and his country estate. RtS |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: fat B****rd Date: 25 Aug 21 - 04:12 AM Apparently after "cold-cocking" Mick Charlie informed him, Jagger, that he was "my vocalist"!! RIP Charlie. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: Helen Date: 25 Aug 21 - 05:20 AM Here is a news article, and the first part of it tells the story of that altercation with Mick Jagger: Drummer Charlie Watts was the beating heart of the Rolling Stones This paragraph almost says it all for me: "While the rest of the band shagged themselves senseless, dressed like bohemians, all the time looking for the next big trend, there was Watts perfectly dressed, faithful to his wife, listening to the song and always playing what he deemed appropriate. His power was his ability to listen." |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: Bonzo3legs Date: 25 Aug 21 - 08:12 AM And his beautiful greyhound will miss him too!! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: Dave the Gnome Date: 25 Aug 21 - 11:40 AM Very sad and the end of an era. He had a good innings and made people happy as well as using his wealth wisely. Something we could all aspire to! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: StephenH Date: 25 Aug 21 - 02:30 PM While I was never a huge Stones fan, much of their music formed the soundtrack of my youth. I thought Charlie was an excellent drummer,and admired his calm, debonair presence in the midst of a lot of chaos. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: GUEST,keberoxu Date: 25 Aug 21 - 04:56 PM For most of the time that the Rolling Stones had a presence on the radio airwaves with hit singles, I wished that that little fellow with the big mouth would shut up so that I could listen to the band behind him better. And Charlie Watts was a big reason for that. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: GUEST,Nick Dow Date: 25 Aug 21 - 07:55 PM I have met two members of the Stones and had long conversations with them. I never met Charlie Watts. I would agree that he seemed one of life's Gentlemen. I'm not sure he was as good a drummer as he has been described. From the same era there are several who were better. Kenny Jones for a start, and in the 1980's I liked Charley Charles, (Blockheads). A young modern drummer I admire is Luke Paget from 'The Feud'. He records my CD's nowadays. The unsung drummers who recorded for Motown, are also noteworthy. The looser snare sound is more attractive to my ears. However those opening beats to 'Honky Tonk Women' are always exciting, and the world will miss Charlie Watts. RIP. P.S. Take a listen to the drummer in Roger Chapman's Street Walkers, bring in 'Burlesque'. (not the video where he gets it wrong by the way!) Love it! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: Johnny J Date: 26 Aug 21 - 06:13 AM None of The Stones are "the best" musicians although Brian Jones was a good multi instrumentalist and could have been "great" had he not self destructed and sadly died so young. However, that's not the point. They are/were all steady and proficient and the resulting "whole" was much greater than the sum of all the parts. I have always enjoyed listening to The Stones and have also seen them play live on two occasions. To my mind, there were 4 distinct eras. The R n B period from the early to mid sixties, the Hit period from the mid sixties to early seventies, the more progressive and rocky phase of the seventies and, latterly, the never ending "touring" period. In my opinion, the last phase was the least satisfying and they just seem to be going through the motions. However, there's no denying the contribution they have made over the years and they still can put on a good show. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: GUEST Date: 26 Aug 21 - 09:02 AM I have a collection of BBC sessions from the R & B period, a few of which I reel to reel taped myself back then from glorious medium wave, but mostly from fm rebroadcasts over the years. Sadly to my knowledge, the Saturday Club session from 18/04/64 has never been rebroadcast - in particular Hi Heeled Sneakers and Beautiful Delilah, and versions circulating tend to have the first few seconds missing. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: Bonzo3legs Date: 26 Aug 21 - 10:52 AM I have a collection of BBC sessions from the R & B period, a few of which I reel to reel taped myself back then from glorious medium wave, but mostly from fm rebroadcasts over the years. Sadly to my knowledge, the Saturday Club session from 18/04/64 has never been rebroadcast - in particular Hi Heeled Sneakers and Beautiful Delilah, and versions circulating tend to have the first few seconds missing. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: Johnny J Date: 26 Aug 21 - 06:07 PM Oh, I should have also stated that there was inevitably a bit of overlap and transition between some of the "eras" too. The band certainly had "hits" from the very start although it was when they started to compose their own materil that these really took off. Also, as early as the late sixties, they started releasing some classic albums such as Beggar's Banquet and Let it Bleed. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: GUEST,paperback Date: 27 Aug 21 - 03:49 PM Got’s ta give them their props!!!! "His passing signals the end of many things, most of which are either too big or too trivial to dwell on so soon after his departure. Egos will rush to the front to sloppily read nonexistent tea leaves and make declarations as to “what this all means”…" requiescat in pace + Charles Robert Watts |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charlie Watts (1941-2021)-Stones Drummer From: Brian Peters Date: 28 Aug 21 - 09:48 AM I listened to a load of Stones songs with the volume turned up last night. Some of the posthumous analysis has revealed subtleties I hadn't previously been aware of, but the elemental battering of the toms on 'Gimme Shelter' has always thrilled me to the bone. |
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