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BS: Folk wisdom 2022

Donuel 23 Dec 21 - 05:20 PM
Neil D 23 Dec 21 - 08:21 PM
Donuel 23 Dec 21 - 08:44 PM
Donuel 24 Dec 21 - 06:33 AM
Donuel 24 Dec 21 - 06:38 AM
G-Force 24 Dec 21 - 10:37 AM
Mr Red 26 Dec 21 - 03:54 AM
Thompson 26 Dec 21 - 05:26 AM
Donuel 26 Dec 21 - 08:57 AM
robomatic 26 Dec 21 - 01:18 PM
Malcolm Storey 26 Dec 21 - 06:05 PM
Steve Shaw 27 Dec 21 - 05:47 AM
Donuel 27 Dec 21 - 07:33 AM
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gillymor 27 Dec 21 - 09:12 AM
Donuel 27 Dec 21 - 12:12 PM
The Sandman 27 Dec 21 - 12:50 PM
Malcolm Storey 27 Dec 21 - 07:55 PM
Thompson 28 Dec 21 - 03:16 AM
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Dave the Gnome 28 Dec 21 - 09:01 AM
Donuel 28 Dec 21 - 09:18 AM
gillymor 28 Dec 21 - 09:25 AM
The Sandman 28 Dec 21 - 03:59 PM
Bill D 28 Dec 21 - 04:24 PM
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Mrrzy 28 Dec 21 - 11:49 PM
gillymor 29 Dec 21 - 06:07 AM
Mr Red 29 Dec 21 - 08:31 AM
Donuel 29 Dec 21 - 12:54 PM
Mrrzy 31 Dec 21 - 04:01 PM
Steve Shaw 31 Dec 21 - 04:23 PM
Mrrzy 02 Jan 22 - 10:04 AM
Malcolm Storey 02 Jan 22 - 01:15 PM
Mr Red 02 Jan 22 - 04:55 PM
Donuel 05 Jan 22 - 09:35 AM
Mrrzy 05 Jan 22 - 01:13 PM
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Steve Shaw 09 Jan 22 - 11:35 AM
gillymor 09 Jan 22 - 11:44 AM
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Donuel 10 Jan 22 - 12:15 PM
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Subject: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Dec 21 - 05:20 PM

The guilty dog barks the loudest.

Even a dog knows if was kicked by accident or not.

A devil's bargain always favors the devil.
example: For the Cubs to win the World Series the devil wanted Trump for president and a global pandemic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Neil D
Date: 23 Dec 21 - 08:21 PM

Damn Donuel, what the heck is it going to take for the Indians to win one? Nuclear holocaust?


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Dec 21 - 08:44 PM

When the Indians go 64 years without a pennant it should be their turn.
Go Indians!


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Dec 21 - 06:33 AM

"My concern has always been for the people who are victimized, unable to speak for themselves and who need outside help."
Joan Baez


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Dec 21 - 06:38 AM

The only thing that's been a worse flop than the organization of non-violence has been the organization of violence.
Joan again

I've never had a humble opinion, if you have an opinion why be humble about it?
JB


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: G-Force
Date: 24 Dec 21 - 10:37 AM

If you drop your flatpick halfway through a song it will invariably fall into your guitar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mr Red
Date: 26 Dec 21 - 03:54 AM

When the going gets tough, the tough get hubris.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Thompson
Date: 26 Dec 21 - 05:26 AM

When the beef gets tough the tough get tenderiser.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Dec 21 - 08:57 AM

Where we go one we go all.

Sounds like a way to destroy restrooms


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: robomatic
Date: 26 Dec 21 - 01:18 PM

"If you drink, don't drive. If you siphon, don't swallow."

"Never eat at a place called Mom's or play cards with a guy they call Doc."

As for humility, Don'l, you have a lot to be humble about.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Malcolm Storey
Date: 26 Dec 21 - 06:05 PM

"Beware of Donuels bearing wisdom"

and

As Grannie used to say
"It always sometimes never happens what's least expected most"

"Lawyers are far more effective at squeezing the life out of you than pythons"


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Dec 21 - 05:47 AM

Forget to take a spare D harp to the gig and your 7-blow will go flat after two tunes, sure as eggs is eggs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Dec 21 - 07:33 AM

Its not the heat its the humility.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Dec 21 - 08:44 AM

Robomatic, Never swallow. Ewww.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Dec 21 - 09:12 AM

Keep your eye on the doughnut, not the hole and if you're a Buddhist do the opposite.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Dec 21 - 12:12 PM

...and if you still desire the donut you will suffer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Dec 21 - 12:50 PM

patriotism is the barking of village dogs


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Malcolm Storey
Date: 27 Dec 21 - 07:55 PM

Like that one Dick - Woof!


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Thompson
Date: 28 Dec 21 - 03:16 AM

Oh, love that! Though sometimes patriotism is the resistance of the oppressed.
Went out yesterday to buy a second-last Christmas present: Shashi Tharoor's new book, Inglorious Empire, about Britain's centuries-long asset-stripping of India, and was annoyed yet pleased to find that it had sold out.
(Fact from the book: at the beginning of the 17th century, India had 27% of world trade; by the time the British left, it had 3%… resistance was necessary to remove this imperial leech.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Malcolm Storey
Date: 28 Dec 21 - 06:41 AM

Statistics is a dangerous tool.
In 1600 America North and South was mostly colonised by European Imperialism, Australasia did not exist as far as the then civilised world knew. Africa was being pillaged for profit both of material and human assets.
I am not defending colonialism in any shape or form - it still exists but in a different guise and continues to penalise the poor.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Dec 21 - 09:01 AM

73.6% of all statistics are made up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Dec 21 - 09:18 AM

DON'T LOOK UP !

A final denial.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Dec 21 - 09:25 AM

Another definition of patriotism, from Lin Yutang-

What is patriotism but love of the good things we ate in our childhood?

From Townes Van Zandt-

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: The Sandman
Date: 28 Dec 21 - 03:59 PM

a woman a dog and a walnut tree the more you whip them the better they be.
true of branches of walnut trees anyway


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Dec 21 - 04:24 PM

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data.

It's always darkest just before you step on the cat.

A lot of people never use their initiative because no-one
told them to.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Dec 21 - 04:28 PM

Love the anecdote one, BillD!

Bumper sticker: Think. It's not illegal yet.

Other bumper sticker: stop pretending your racism is patriotism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Dec 21 - 11:49 PM

Sent by a friend, annotated by me:

Points of enlightenment.


“The only mystery in life is why the kamikaze pilots wore helmets.” – Al McGuire



“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.” – Albert Einstein



“War is God’s way of teaching Americans geography.” – Ambrose Bierce

(Sigh)

“It would be nice to spend billions on schools and roads, but right now that money is desperately needed for political ads.” – Andy Borowitz



“At every party there are two kinds of people – those who want to go home and those who don’t. The trouble is, they are usually married to each other.” – Ann Landers



“My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I’m right.” – Ashleigh Brilliant

(Ahem)

“Have you noticed that all the people in favor of birth control are already born?” – Benny Hill



“The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us.” – Bill Watterson



“As a child my family’s menu consisted of two choices: take it or leave it.” – Buddy Hackett



“My favorite machine at the gym is the vending machine.” – Caroline Rhea



“All right everyone, line up alphabetically according to your height.” – Casey Stengel



“Never under any circumstances take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.” – Dave Barry



“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” – Edward Abbey

(Ayup)

“How many people here have telekinetic powers? Raise my hand.” – Emo Philips



“If you live to be one hundred, you’ve got it made. Very few people die past that age.” – George Burns



“Trouble knocked at the door, but, hearing laughter, hurried away.” – Benjamin Franklin


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: gillymor
Date: 29 Dec 21 - 06:07 AM

Another pearl from George Burns-
“Acting is all about honesty. If you can fake that, you've got it made.”


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Dec 21 - 08:31 AM

Malcolm Storey

Statistics is a dangerous tool.

So is a car. Show me the person who shuns the car & I will show you 500 that don't. (make that 1000).

All statistics need is context. And idiots** to understand that.

** eg politicians


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Dec 21 - 12:54 PM

What I learned in 2021 is that no one learned anything in 2020.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mrrzy
Date: 31 Dec 21 - 04:01 PM

Ayup (hope no firewall)


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Dec 21 - 04:23 PM

"What I learned in 2021 is that no one learned anything in 2020."

Speak for yourself. .


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jan 22 - 10:04 AM

Oh, that latter pretty much confirms the former [grin]!


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Malcolm Storey
Date: 02 Jan 22 - 01:15 PM

Mr Red
There was a resent report that policing the Insulate Britain demonstrations cost the Met £4 Million.
Meaningless - was that the actual cost of those officers carrying out policing duties or was it the extra cost?
If the former then the vast majority of that cost would have been incurred no matter what.
Statistics as you point out need context.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Jan 22 - 04:55 PM

Golden rule of statistical politics

Don't give context, it only confuses the plebs who vote for them.

A valid point though, context is complexity, and Bar-room jocularity just ain't funny with a "yeabut butting-in". And the lowest common denominator is the bar-room. (Outside of politicians).

It all depends if you are buying or selling...................


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jan 22 - 09:35 AM

Yes Minister.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jan 22 - 01:13 PM

Ok... why did I never realize that omega and omicron mean big O and little O?


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jan 22 - 03:11 PM

The golden rule of problem solving;
The KISS method of problem solving has been 'keep it simple stupid'.
The fatal flaw in that method is assuming going from point a to point b is a preferred straight line.
If that goal is incorrect from the git go you crash.
Maybe you needed to go from point b to point q in a curved route.

Boeing made the best example of this fundamental mistake by trying to fit the new larger fuel efficient engines onto their old 1960's 737 airframe. If they tried that the engines would scrape on the ground. If they tried to elongate the landing gear so the engines would not hit the ground there would no room to retract the landing gear. So they tried putting the engines way forward. But that caused the whole plane to pitch upward. They did that anyway and added an MCAS system to compensate and automaticaly push the plane downward and called the plane 737 Max. Each problem created a new problem down the line when they should have started with an all new airframe to start with. In the real world the plane would automaticly push the plane down into the ground or ocean.
folk wisdom-
Don't build a modern car on a model T frame.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jan 22 - 06:21 PM

Apparently no one at Boeing ever read The Cat in the Hat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jan 22 - 07:00 PM

A bouncing ball! (Boing, boing!)
And a little wee stone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jan 22 - 07:25 PM

that was Severnesque.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Jan 22 - 04:05 AM

The fatal flaw in that method is assuming going from point a to point b is a preferred straight line.
If that goal is incorrect from the git go you crash.
Maybe you needed to go from point b to point q in a curved route.


<YEABUT> always assuming the commutative law applies </YEABUT>

A to B (or Q) is not automatically the same as (Q or) B to A - it might be downhill (or up!)
Which puts a different slant...........................
on it.

When trying to find the best coefficients for a non-canonical digital filter (as you do) with a computer program (in FORTRAN since you ask) I could never decide if the best fit was just a blind dip with better ones lurking - and over which hump? After 30+ years it still bugs me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 22 - 11:05 AM

Problem solving algorithms are beyond me.
Folk wisdom problem solving is...
Geter done.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Jan 22 - 11:30 AM

Don't eat yellow snow


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Jan 22 - 11:35 AM

Never trust a fart


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Jan 22 - 11:44 AM

Be careful not to speak clearer than you think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Jan 22 - 11:59 AM

Never waste an erection.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Jan 22 - 12:16 PM

Just because you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean they aren’t after you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Jan 22 - 12:20 PM

Even if your willie is twelve inches long you shouldn't use it as a rule.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Jan 22 - 12:23 PM

Illegitimes non carborundum


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Jan 22 - 12:36 PM

Some men have a thousand journeys and some men have one journey a thousand times.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Jan 22 - 12:46 PM

Don’t let your mouth write a check your ass can’t cash.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jan 22 - 01:12 PM

beware of insufficient fun


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: BobL
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 03:53 AM

Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence (Hanlon's Razor).

Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice (Grey's Law).


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 06:23 AM

Buy low sell high


Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd. ADR stock will take 2 years to get back to supplying 80% of the world's chips. Its wicked low now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: gillymor
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 06:40 AM

You guys must know some pretty sophisticated hillbillies.

Someone who's crawled across the Sahara naked doesn't spend much time in a tanning booth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 07:44 AM

Give a man a bucket of coal and you'll keep him warm for the night. Set a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 08:02 AM

poor Severn


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 11:38 AM

There is a Klingon thing about teaching someone to fly... Push'm outa the plane and they'll fly for the rest of their life...

Don't test the water with both feet.

If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 11:41 AM

The real genius was the man who invented the second telephone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 12:15 PM

find the folk saying...

a. The pig that knows his truffles will eat well.

b. The derivitive expert knows how to make them up out of thin air.

c. Manufacturing a cheap deady virus makes for an expensive cure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 07:31 PM

There are three kinds of people on this planet: those who are good at arithmetic and those who aren't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 07:45 PM

There are 10 kinds of people on this planet: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 07:57 PM

The fact that your head is still attached at the neck doesn't mean that no-one's sharpening a knife.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Joe_F
Date: 11 Jan 22 - 05:59 PM

It is prudent to put control over precaution in the hands of the person at greater risk.

A friend in power is a friend lost.

Sending me to my room won't keep me out of mischief.

Not all are free who mock their chains.

Imagine being a human and calling something else pointless!ff


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 06:37 AM

Never put all your eggs in one basket before you leap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 06:37 AM

You won't know your ignorance until you learn something new.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 07:35 AM

I'll believe in the miracles of Lourdes when I see a one-legged man coming back with two legs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 09:49 AM

If you're addicted to placebos it won't matter if you quit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: fat B****rd
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 10:54 AM

And don't forget to slop your dripper.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: gillymor
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 11:02 AM

More than two shakes and you're playing with it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom poetry
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 01:08 PM

No matter how much you shake and squeeze there's stiil a drop for your BVDs


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 01:22 PM

"Never before have so many stadiums been built for so few to attend."
quote: China Olympic Chairman Doan Sitheer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 03:35 PM

"More than two shakes and you're playing with it.

We're a bit more direct this end: "More than two shakes and it's a w*ank..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 04:57 PM

I thought wank was spelled wank? What is the starred letter?

Taking water from the same well doesn't make all the cooks' sauces taste the same.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 08:23 PM

Wa*nk

Fu*ck

B*ast*ard

B*ollo*cks

Tw*at

Ar*seh*ole

That's the way to do it. It's actually a rebellion against the rather twee habit of replacing letters in rude words with asterisks. Maybe I shouldn't have expected you to understand my brand of humour, maybe because you'd rather not?

By the way, I got my inspiration for this from a legend on the Session website who's no longer there (kudos, Michael Gill! Howya!). The Guardian style guide (q.v.) doesn't allow asterisks in swear words at all. Either use the word fully and boldly or find an alternative word.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 08:37 PM

I've taken the liberty to copy here the Guardian's style guide entry on swearwords:

swearwords

We are more liberal than any other newspapers, using language that most of our competitors would not. The statistics tell their own story: the word “fuck” (and its variants) appeared 705 times in the Guardian in the 12 months to April 2010, with a further 269 mentions in the Observer. (The figures for other national newspapers were as follows: Independent 279, Independent on Sunday 74, Times 3, Sunday Times 2, all other papers 0.) The figures for the C-word, still regarded by many people as taboo, were: Guardian 49, Observer 20, Independent 8, Independent on Sunday 5, everyone else 0.

Even some readers who agree with Lenny Bruce that “take away the right to say fuck and you take away the right to say fuck the government” might feel that we sometimes use such words unnecessarily, although comments in response to Guardian Style’s blogpost on the subject were overwhelmingly in support of our policy.

The editor’s guidelines are as follows:

First, remember the reader, and respect demands that we should not casually use words that are likely to offend.

Second, use such words only when absolutely necessary to the facts of a piece, or to portray a character in an article; there is almost never a case in which we need to use a swearword outside direct quotes. The use of swearwords in furniture, especially headlines, should also be avoided unless an editor deems it absolutely necessary.

Third, the stronger the swearword, the harder we ought to think about using it.

Finally, never use asterisks, or such silliness as b------, which are just a cop-out, as Charlotte Brontë recognised: “The practice of hinting by single letters those expletives with which profane and violent people are wont to garnish their discourse, strikes me as a proceeding which, however well meant, is weak and futile. I cannot tell what good it does – what feeling it spares – what horror it conceals”


Grand!


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jan 22 - 08:43 AM

A skatological orgy and curse collection is not wisdom but is typical of a passive aggresive obcession. It is however highly folk.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Jan 22 - 10:17 AM

Billy Connolly swears beautifully.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Jan 22 - 12:48 PM

I just thought I might have been wrong, Steve. But apparently, I was mistaken!

Yeah, I never heard of adding asterisks but not omitting letters. Interesting.

But back to folk wisdom:
If your friend is honey, do not lick them thoroughly. From Tunisia. Similar to Give'm an inch, they'll take a mile.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jan 22 - 02:12 PM

Billy swears brilliantly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jan 22 - 11:09 AM

How do you know the stage is level? The bass player drools out of both sides of his mouth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Neil D
Date: 16 Jan 22 - 02:21 PM

The question isn't whether I'm paranoid, but whether I'm paranoid enough.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Mr Red
Date: 17 Jan 22 - 03:10 AM

Never trust a fart - ah an old one from the days of Spaw (he is certainly missed)

But more pertinently and consequentially:

Don't sit on a loose stool.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 22 - 09:47 AM

You can never be paranoid enough until you achieve total omnicience.

Choose your words for the audience carefully.

(I used to get a lot of blowback from the word prophet.
I meant it in the MLK way but people identify 'prophet' as a fortune teller con man spiritualist joker.)

Happy MLK day today


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 22 - 11:59 AM

For 50 years the NIH has conducted the 'Mongering the Future project.
It takes 30,000 kids and measures hundreds of parameters.
This year was the lowest in 50 years in regards to substance abuse.
No doubt about it, access and supply chains are at play.

No school and no play makes Jack a dull boy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Jan 22 - 02:14 PM

"Never trust a fart - ah an old one from the days of Spaw (he is certainly missed)"

Well actually I heard Billy Connolly saying this long before Mudcat was a twinkle in Max's eye.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 17 Jan 22 - 03:04 PM

"Never trust a fart - ah an old one from the days of Spaw (he is certainly missed)"

Well actually I heard Billy Connolly saying this long before Mudcat was a twinkle in Max's eye.



This was part of Billy Connolly's advice on turning 60. Unless he had been reycling some of his old material, this would set it as some time in or after 2002. Mudcat had been going for a good few years by then.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 22 - 04:14 PM

Brilliant/
He was also brilliant in the movie Quartet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 22 - 04:21 PM

Dying, is easy, everyone is doing it. But staying alive, difficult and for the few.
quote Billy Connolly


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Subject: RE: BS: Folk wisdom 2022
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Jan 22 - 05:07 PM

I have a feeling that you're right and I'm wrong, Doug :-(


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