BS: Wordle

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Feb 22 - 03:27 AM

The stats rely on your cookies and as I can, and do, play on my phone, tablet or desktop mine are always wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Feb 22 - 06:50 AM

Three. That's more like it. After a terrible first pick too!

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Feb 22 - 08:01 AM

Four. Not a single hit on the first line but a useful set of eliminatees (there, I think I've just coined a word...)

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Mar 22 - 08:33 PM

Five. Easy today to get boxed into a corner. I know someone who's never failed before who failed today.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 01 Mar 22 - 09:38 PM

I got it in 4. It should have been 3 but I made a careless mistake on my 3rd try.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Mar 22 - 12:02 AM

With each new guess I don't let myself use letters that were already rejected in the game, and I use pencil and paper. And a spelling/divider book from the 1980s, that in about one out of 10 puzzles lets me look down a list of words with the first two or three letters and decide what I want to try.

Wordle 255 4/6

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Mar 22 - 04:48 AM

Unfortunate 6 the other day. Having identified 4 letters, and assuming I needed an extra 'E' I tried PUREE. When that showed 3 green 2 gold it was staring me in the face.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Stanron
Date: 02 Mar 22 - 04:55 AM

You could say you were on the money.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Mar 22 - 11:47 AM

Took me six goes today. I was sweating it.

In order not to post spoilers, tomorrow I'll post two interesting words that it wouldn't let me have, "not in the word list."

Yesterday Wordle reset all my stats to zero, as if it was my first ever go. I hadn't done anything different and was using the iPad I always use. Luckily, because I've been assiduously reporting my scores on Mudcat every day, I managed to rebuild my history. I'm not trusting Wordle any more!

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Raedwulf
Date: 02 Mar 22 - 12:37 PM

Shaw, I hate you. {No, not really, but..}

I will not cheat, I will not take or look for hints, I'm not listening to what other people have achieved and I will not compete. I want this to be fun. I don't do crosswords, sudoku or anything else like those ghastly wastes of life. I hate all kinds of games. But this one is a piece of genius, an amazing mix of mental intrigue and sheer luck, with a good degree of annoyance thrown in. I want to give it five or ten minutes over my mid-morning flat white. It feels good for my brain.

Yes, that.

The trouble is, the rest of the time you're an obnoxious, lecturing, didactic pain in the ass!

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Mar 22 - 01:06 PM

And you're an idiot, but let's not dwell.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 05:40 AM

Three yesterday, speedily too!

The words it wouldn't let me have the day before yesterday were SANTA (Foreign? Counted as a proper name? Religious allusions?? I mean, doesn't "secret Santa" sort of make it an "English" word?) and SATAN (Potential offence? "The Great Satan"??) Still, just as with a moderated forum, Wordle ain't no democracy... ;-)

Anyone else had surprise rejections? Maybe I'll start with WILLY today...

(Bloody grow up, Shaw!)

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 12:32 PM

Did it in three today, despite the fact that I was simultaneously showing an old lady at our Memory Café how to do it. She was most impressed. It could have gone completely the other way!

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 04:44 PM

I did not find it today. :-(

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 05:29 PM

I didn't get today's word either. I'm slapping my forehead that I didn't, but no luck.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 06:55 PM

I have yet to fail. You two are not doing it right. If, by line three, things are going badly, tell everyone around you to piss off and leave you alone, have at least one very strong coffee if not two, get your head down and FOCUS! You can do it... You know you can...

You'll lose friends, but hey ho...

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 08:38 PM

I always have one cup of strong coffee. I came back from doing laundry and buying food, then carrying it al into the house, and it was late and my patience level was mostly nil. It got to the point where I tried three different words with the same three correct-and-in-the-right-place letters, and put in an obviously wrong word, because I just wanted to SEE THE DAMNED ANSWER! (ahem) I don't know if I would have figured it out, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 08:54 PM

Wrong brand of coffee, Jeri? :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 09:15 PM

I'm guessing it wore off hours before I got home, and I should've had another.

BTW, it was four times in a row I got the same three correct letters. Four.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 09:44 PM

Same here. Too many words that use that combination of three middle letters. I don't drink coffee.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Mar 22 - 06:47 AM

I've got it in two twice in a row! There's a lot of luck involved in that first word. Today I got the last two letters in the right places, and the three disallowed ones left me with hardly any choices as to line 2. So I'll not crow!

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Mar 22 - 06:17 PM

Same here! I got the last 2 in 2 :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Mar 22 - 06:19 PM

Humph...

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Stanron
Date: 15 Mar 22 - 07:58 PM

I was trying to find five letter words which had no vowels. I couldn't think of any so I put 'words without vowels into the search engine. I got these;

glyph
gypsy
pygmy
syncs
sylph
tryst
wryly
wynns

Anyone got some others?

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 15 Mar 22 - 08:12 PM

crwth

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 15 Mar 22 - 08:44 PM

Just thought of another: myrrh

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Mar 22 - 09:08 PM

It's incorrect to regard y as not a vowel. In most cases it acts precisely in the same way as a vowel, as it does in every word in Stanron's list (and in myrrh). In fact, it's more often than not a vowel, to all intents and purposes. I remember being told at school 60 years ago that y could be either a vowel or a consonant. For a far more scholarly explanation than mine, check out Merriam-Webster's article on it (I googled "Is y a vowel").

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Mar 22 - 09:24 PM

I have always considered Y to be a vowel.

Wordle 269 4/6

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Mar 22 - 09:34 PM

Definitely a vowel in "Stilly."

Dunno how it works in Welsh, Jon. The only Welsh word I know is "rarebit." :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 15 Mar 22 - 10:22 PM

I can't help there Steve. Dydw i ddim yn siarad Cymraeg.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 12:05 PM

My short streak has ended with today's word. When you have all of the letters but one, and they add up to a large set of words - oy.

Wordle 270 X/6

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 12:25 PM

"I can't help there Steve. Dydw i ddim yn siarad Cymraeg."

As my mum would have said, Jon, don't be filthy! ;-)

Got it in three today. A couple of lucky greenies in the first word helps a lot.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 12:51 PM

Got today's in 5. It came down to having figured out where some letters weren't.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 12:58 PM

And Dwygyfylchi to you Steve ;-)

Got it in 4 today. I'd got 3 right and 1 wrong on try 1 so it was just guess the missing letter (or perhaps just play a word using a few possible letters) from there today.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 01:43 PM

I was trying to find five letter words which had no vowels. I couldn't think of any so I put 'words without vowels into the search engine. I got these;

glyph
gypsy
pygmy
syncs
sylph
tryst
wryly
wynns

Anyone got some others?

nymph
thyme
crypt
cysts
hymns
slyly
shyly
dryly
wryly


DC

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 02:13 PM

Oops! Doubled up on "wryly".

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 02:21 PM

"Y" is a vowel over here, but Americans - go figure.
Vowels are "AEIOU, and sometimes Y"

And I probably could've done this in fewer than 5 if I'd stopped to think. "Yeah, that letter is first, and this other letter can't go second, fourth or fifth, so it HAS to go third, and this other letter can't be last or second, and..."
When I started this, I often screwed up because I entered something too quickly, without his critical thinking step.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 02:46 PM

I think stanron (and I) were just trying to keep things simple, ie. AEIOU rather than suggesting other letters may not be used as vowels.

I think my "crwth" is the only one entered here that doesn't use the "y" but even there, the Wiki article I linked to says:

Like several other English loanwords from Welsh, the name is one of the few words in the English language in which the letter W is used as a vowel.

cwm is the only other with the W I'm coming up with at the moment and that's 2 letters short...

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Stanron
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 04:06 PM

"nymph
thyme
crypt
cysts
hymns
slyly
shyly
dryly
wryly


DC"

impressive DC, as is crwth.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 04:45 PM

"thyme", of course, doesn't count because it has an 'e'.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 04:49 PM

Instead, we can use the rest of the letters and go with "myths".

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: robomatic
Date: 16 Mar 22 - 06:25 PM

Is anyone using the 'hard' setting? I've read that it is supposed to speed up the process but I think it could lead to losing streaks because it would seem to slow down or limit the process of eliminating letters.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 06:36 AM

I have been using the hard setting for the last couple of weeks. Also, I use yesterday's solution as today's starting word to make it more random. It hasn't made a great deal of difference to the stats.

To my mind, the hard setting, which obliges you to use the revealed letters in subsequent guesses, reduces the skill and makes it more a game of chance. If the first guess gave one blank and four greens, such as

_ A T C H

then the possibilities are

B A T C H
C A T C H
H A T C H
L A T C H
M A T C H
P A T C H
W A T C H

It is just random chance at which point you arrive at the solution and it may be that you run out of goes before you get there. The skill comes from recognising this and choosing words which will eliminate as many of the possible letters in the shortest number of guesses, which can't be done on the hard setting.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 07:28 AM

Four. Bad start but I'm thinking more cannily these days, mainly with the aim of eliminating...

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 11:43 AM

I'm not sure that you can have a 'bad' start. Five blanks means five letters eliminated. If one of those is a 'u' then you have eliminated 'q' as well.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 11:55 AM

Five blanks is not great, Doug. Four blanks plus an orange eliminates four letters but at least gives you a sort of straw to clutch at. If you're at line three and can't think of any word at all for line four that fits with your permitted letters, you're nearly there. If you can think of loads of words that might fit, you could well be stuffed.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 12:55 PM

Better than yesterday, which was zip in six.

Wordle 271 5/6

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 17 Mar 22 - 02:14 PM

Five blanks is not great ....

Twice I have had a five blank first guess and finished in three - not by pure luck but because my second guess and the eliminated letters left the answer as the only possible solution.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: robomatic
Date: 11 Apr 22 - 12:20 AM

Working my way thrrough the Archive. Got to Wordle #102. Many 5s and a few nailbiter 6s.

Subject: RE: BS: Wordle
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Apr 22 - 09:55 AM

I haven't missed a day since my first go on Feb 1. I have more fours than anything, though the threes are catching up. I have more threes than fives and more twos than sixes and I have yet to fail. That, along with our grandson who's here for the week and a clutch of superb Liverpool matches to watch, means that life is currently not bad at all...

I like to hear about general strategies for doing Wordle but I fiercely resist hints, tips, clues or collaboration of any sort during the daily game. I've been known to get cross...