Paul McCartney at Glastonbury

Subject: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 Jun 22 - 04:54 PM

Paul McCartney's set starts at 10:30pm BST . You should be able to watch using VLC here on BBC Red Button channel 12:

http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio_video/webcast/hls/uk/abr_hdtv/ak/sport_stream_12.m3u8

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Jun 22 - 05:56 PM

We have to be up early tomorrow so we're recording Macca and will watch it tomorrow. We watched Olivia Rodrigo tonight - very watchable, even for a chap of a certain age (*wink emoticon*), but last night I'd watched Billie Eilish. It was my good fortune to record her set, and Mrs Steve and I watched it tonight (so my second time!)

Well, no comparison. Olivia was nice and poppy and lovely, but Billie Eilish is a class apart. She's precisely the kick up the backside that popular music has needed for decades. Brilliant.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: GUEST,Joe G
Date: 25 Jun 22 - 08:08 PM

An Astonishing set by McCartney - 2hrs 40 in and still going! What a band!

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 04:13 AM

Incredible performance which seemed to be uniting all ages in appreciation of those great songs. He must have been absolutely exhausted by the end - the band was incredibly good as well.

Only criticism perhaps flying David Grohl and Bruce Springsteen in for cameos after Greta Thunberg's speech?

Glad I didn't have to go back to a tent though.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Acorn4
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 04:14 AM

Sorry that was me - cookie went AWOL.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: GUEST,Henry Piper (of Ottery )
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 06:12 AM

Sadly MCartney's voice (at 80 !!) ) is no longer what it used to be but you have to admire the stamina anyone who could handle a nearly 3 hour performance at his age. I agree the band was superb, professional and well drilled, even down to the Choreographed Brass section !! , can anyone Identify the other Musicians ?? apart from the imported "Guest stars" !!!.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 06:21 AM

You mean Paul McCartney's set was interrupted for a speech from that thunberg brat????????????????

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 06:32 AM

The BBC are really dragging their heels about putting the PM set on the iplayer, so I can download the full HD version.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 08:31 AM

I was travelling home from an afternoon/early-evening gig I’d been playing with the band in Buckinghamshire, and the A1 was closed north of Stamford, so a long diversion through Oakham and Melton Mowbray to rejoin the A1 at Grantham, and then onwards to my home, meant that I was able to listen to most of Macca’s show.

At the age of 80, it’s hardly surprising that his voice has gone to a great degree but, whereas many (most?) ageing singers drop the keys of their songs to suit their loss of upper-register, McCartney refuses to do that, and performs them in the keys he sang them in as a young(er) man. That, in itself, is an amazing feat, but to do so for an entire, almost-three-hour, high-energy set is astonishing, and would put many (most?) of the younger performers to shame.

Backed by his superb, tight-as-a-nut band, Macca’s show was a tour-de-force. Immense power, brilliant (goes without saying!) songs, roared out by the absolute, consummate professional - I am completely in awe of the man, his catalogue, his performance talent, and his musicians. He’s the Full Nine Yards.

The usual disclaimers apply - IMHO, YMMV.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 10:14 AM

There was an 80th birthday thread started about 10 days ago. But look at the grouped topics at the top of the thread and you can see that Sir Paul (or is it Lord Paul?) is a popular subject here.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 11:02 AM

Sir Paul. He isn't a Lord. I'm somebody who's really sure he isn't from the House of Lords.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 01:42 PM

I was hoping it would be on iPlayer on demand but it ain't yet so I'm watching Billie Eilish instead. The youngest headliner instead of the oldest! :-)

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 01:44 PM

A lot of flashing lights, Dave, but spectacularly good in m'humble!

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 01:50 PM

I must admit that aside from "No time to die" I didn't know her stuff. I will certainly listen to more now. I usually download and play music in the car so a few Spotibum downloads will be occurring later:-)

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 02:04 PM

There is a Spotify play list of her stuff compiled by the lass herself. That'll do me.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 02:09 PM

Not impressed, not at all. Sorry!
And I wish they would pronounce her name properly!

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 02:58 PM

I have no idea how it should be pronounced and as long as she carries on performing like that I don't really care :-) Sadly, when it finished, I went back to BBC live and was disappointed by Diana Ross. Still, I don't suppose that would bother her :-(

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 03:28 PM

Yeah, it’s ‘each to his own’ Dave - I certainly ‘get’ that, I just don’t ‘get’ BE (and I very much doubt I’m her target audience, so it’s really not surprising!). But if others do ‘get’ her, all power to their collective elbows.

I’ve just realised - I’ve become my dad (memories of him telling me of Elvis, Buddy and, later, The Beatles and The Stones, “That bloody racket’s not music!).

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 04:55 PM

"I was hoping it would be on iPlayer on demand but it ain't yet so I'm watching Billie Eilish instead. The youngest headliner instead of the oldest! :-)"

It's there now, manifest for full HD is

https://vod-hls-uk.live.cf.md.bbci.co.uk/usp/auth/vod/piff_abr_full_hd/7a4072-p0cg2m7h/vf_p0cg2m7h_e47c0d10-ca2f-4809-8645-7a6e388ccfcf.ism.hlsv2.ism/vf_p0cg2m7h_e47c0d10-ca2f-4809-8645-7a6e388ccfcf.ism.hlsv2-audio_eng_1=128000-video=12000000.m3u8

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 04:57 PM

Copy and paste the link into VLC/media/open network stream and it will open.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 05:45 PM

Cool - Thanks Bonzo. Too late
now but I shall have a look tomorrow.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 22 - 07:27 PM

Well we recorded the whole thing on Saturday night and we've just finished watching it. Not only was it the best gig I've ever seen on telly, it was the best THING I've ever seen on telly!

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Acorn4
Date: 27 Jun 22 - 06:14 AM

Always thought Cliff was the one with the painting in the attic but Paul definitely gazumped him here.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 27 Jun 22 - 08:01 AM

I downloaded his set in full HD seconds after it was put on the iplayer last night, possibly the first on the planet to do so!!!

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: meself
Date: 27 Jun 22 - 11:37 AM

"I’ve just realised - I’ve become my dad (memories of him telling me of Elvis, Buddy and, later, The Beatles and The Stones, “That bloody racket’s not music!)."

Take a look at the comments under any recording from the '60s or '70s on youtube, and you'll see any number of pronouncements to the effect of, "Now that's real music! Not like that noise the kids are listening to nowadays!" How a guy (and it's always guys) can say something like that without hearing his father, a grouchy teacher, or some random opinionated middle-aged stranger from his youth, I don't know ... even if I agree with sentiment ... !

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 22 - 05:28 PM

Trouble with iPlayer is that the download goes when it becomes out of date. I converted the stream Bonzo linked to an MP4 using VLC and it is now happily on my media server for viewing whenever :-)

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 03:57 AM

Anyone seen Alison Krauss and Robert Plant yet?

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 04:49 AM

Yep. Disappointing sound (true of pretty much everything I’ve seen - they just don’t seem able to get a good balance for TV, and it all sounds as though it’s coming down an echoey tube), and Alison’s vocals weren’t loud enough (Plant leaves me a bit chilly, but I’m an enormous AKUS fan).

They were good, I love their music, but I can’t help but feel they were let down by the sound, at least as far as TV was concerned - they may well have sounded great in the flesh.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 08:37 AM

I think you need to turn up the sound to deafening!!

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 09:20 AM

I didn't think that the sound level balance between the band and the singing was ideal in the McCartney gig, at least not on my recording. And Bonzo, you can't change the balance just by cranking up the volume! I did it anyway (lack of near-neighbours has its upside...)

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 10:46 AM

Yes you can, speakers and human ears tend to be more responsive to mid frequencies at higher volumes.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 11:02 AM

”I think you need to turn up the sound to deafening!!”

No. It’s a widely-held fallacy that music needs to be very loud to sound its best. At high volumes, ‘deafening’ as you put it, subtleties and nuances are lost in the overall ‘mush’ that over-loaded ear-drums perceive. Having played in bands (of almost every kind, jazz, brass, and classical being the only kinds I haven’t played) for the past 60 years, and still doing it, I prefer to hear well-balanced, technically excellent audio at sensible volumes.

Also, I live in a semi, I’m a considerate human being, and I don’t choose to inflict my tastes in music on my very good neighbours.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 12:43 PM

You haven't got my ears, Guest (Bonzo?)

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 01:45 PM

Guest seems to be making the same mistake as producers of pop CDs. Half the point of the CD is that it gives a greatly increased dynamic range compared to the LP, without having to use as much compression to raise the quiet bits above the noise floor. Sadly, pop producers got into a loudness war AND TRIED TO OUTSHOUT ONE ANOTHER, by essentially putting the digital signal through a mincer JUST BECAUSE THEY COULD, and all bands ended up sounding like the same mincemeat with different brand names.

Happily the delusion seems to have abated somewhat since the Noughties, and bands can sound like themselves again (unless they wish not to). But I still find myself seeing "digitally remastered" on CD covers and misreading it as "digitally denatured".

.... If you really must punish your eardrums, use headphones. Just don't make my mistake of trying to sing along with it: if you can't hear yourself, you'll sing flat, which is even less neighbour-friendly.

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Hagman
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 10:13 PM

For Henry Piper (of Ottery), who asked above who was in the Macca band...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_McCartney_Band

I guess playing together for 20 years makes an ensemble either very jaded or in this case very sharp.

Nice article here -> https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife/7-times-paul-mccartneys-glastonbury-7257036

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jun 22 - 07:11 AM

A titbit for Strictly fans: on the album Live In Los Angeles, Paul's regular keyboard man was replaced by that redoubtable Strictly music maestro Dave Arch!

Subject: RE: Paul McCartney at Glastonbury
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Jun 22 - 09:36 AM

Y’know, that ‘Strictly’ band are bloody good, and so are the singers! Ray Ellington’s lad, Lance, used to sing with them - a superb vocalist.