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BS: why is the news so wearying right now?

Donuel 02 Aug 22 - 07:56 AM
Steve Shaw 02 Aug 22 - 07:25 AM
Nigel Parsons 02 Aug 22 - 05:42 AM
keberoxu 01 Aug 22 - 05:34 AM
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keberoxu 25 Jul 22 - 08:33 AM
Stilly River Sage 20 Jul 22 - 11:31 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Aug 22 - 07:56 AM

South America has an eco front to restore wetlands *nurseries of the seas and plant a million trees.

Here is a surprising red eye flight

World's most deadly terrorist killed by hellfire missiles.
He was the same age as Steve Shaw.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Aug 22 - 07:25 AM

Major news outlets such as national papers and TV channels will always focus more on "bad" news, as bad-news stories are usually more shocking and sensational, much better for selling copy and grabbing attention. Major good-news stories can often be trivial stuff such as what celebrities or the royals are getting up to. Stuff that often seems to pad up, unjustifiably in m'humble, the news bulletins. I suppose the news purveyors don't want us to switch off feeling miserable, though I often feel more miserable after being fed that stuff than I do after seeing the real news (which I can't define anyway...).

Our local papers are more inclined to carry more "good" news, trivial though it can seem on the surface. The Bude and Stratton Post fills its pages with agricultural shows, fêtes, local sports reports and kids' achievements in schools, etc., usually with lots of cheery photos. I tend to flick through it all quickly but I would never diss it.

It's always worth remembering that the news fed to us by the mass media is what someone in an office somewhere has decided we should get, and will routinely fail to balance the good happening in the world with the bad.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Aug 22 - 05:42 AM

The Lionesses (England's women footballers) won the European Cup in a well played and, generally, sporting match against Germany.
They then continued to cheer their fans by partying into the night and well into the next day.

Of course, if you look for dreary news, you will find it!


100!


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Aug 22 - 05:34 AM

Now, I find myself wondering if this criminal act
was done precisely in order to steal/rob from those in the club.
There were graduations and birthdays being celebrated.
Was this poisoning done on purpose
in order to take money and clothes from the teenagers?


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Jul 22 - 05:44 PM

. . . and,
four people, including a sixteen-year-old,
have been arrested in South Africa
because they went into that very nightclub
to rob the dying and the dead of
everything from shoes to cellphones.

Like I said, wearying.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Jul 22 - 08:33 AM

It's called methanol.
The chemical was detected in the bodies of every teenager/youth
who died at the South African tavern one terrible night.
The toxicologists are still working out if the methanol killed them.

One thing the toxicologists have concluded is that:
alcohol poisoning may be ruled out.
Also, although carbon monoxide was present in all the dead bodies,
it was not carbon monoxide poisoning, either, which killed them.

The tavern is closed,
and following arrest,
the owner is out on bail. I wonder if he still requires guards?


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jul 22 - 11:31 AM

There are three major museums in the cultural district of Fort Worth that are renown for their architecture. The Amon Carter Museum by Philip Johnson, the Kimbell Museum by Louis Kahn and the Modern Art Museum by Tadao Ando. The Kimbell added a new building, by Lorenzo Piano. Great names here in town, none of them quite so dramatic, but very effective in their design to house great art.

The news here is the heat and the effects, including lots of broken pipes when the pavement gets so hot.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 22 - 08:34 AM

edit:
The Bull Shit of lies, religion and rigged false solutions will always arrive before we can save the day.
Its a losing game we play.
The promise of winning with wonder weapons like Fusion is always a day away.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 22 - 06:56 AM

Henry Kissinger appears to have melted into a lump years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 22 - 12:57 AM

Things are direct, hard and violent now. Its tougher than the reported news which makes the reality even worse. There are those who tell it like it is and we like it; we like war, we like being made angry, many of us like extending racism to the max, we lov our stuff and hate their shit.
We can cancel those idiots and we are always right. Or so some think.
It seems like we are in an evolutionary dead end.
The planet will shake us off like a flea by means of a combination of virus, starvation/thirst, war and being blind to insights.
This is hitting home nowadays. The Bull Shit of lies, religion and false hope are all arriving 20 years late. Oh and regarding Henry Kissinger who is to say he is human?


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Jul 22 - 11:46 PM

This is a disgusting thing to say, I'm sure, but
I am SO ready for Henry Kissinger to die already.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jul 22 - 01:46 PM

People have wised up to propoganda but when coupled with daily presidential accusations of FAKE; news, ruse, views, dues and coups, I am not surprised that criminals are winning the truth war.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: keberoxu
Date: 17 Jul 22 - 07:11 AM

I missed this report when it came out last month.


Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism: avoiding news more, trusting reporting less


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Jul 22 - 08:34 PM

Regarding the East London, Cape area, South Africa tavern
and the deaths of 21 youths:
Three arrests have been made regarding liquor licensing
and underage drinking,
and the suspects are the tavern owner and "two employees",
according to the BBC News.

Word is still being withheld about the question of
the vile smell, and gas, and inhaling anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jul 22 - 09:04 AM

A new Broadway comedy hit "Potus" runs through August.
A meek executive secretary who keeps President Dumbass on point ingests a hallucinagen and becomes a powerhouse that ascends to the Presidency with wit, wisdom and factual knowledge.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 11 Jul 22 - 07:16 PM

Miralles lives on, it seems.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jul 22 - 06:23 AM

Here is a new Parisian museum meh I've seen more artful dog turds.
I like Notre Dame's bilateral symmetry.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 11 Jul 22 - 12:00 AM

The destruction by fire of NDdeP some years back was, surprisingly, a visceral shock to me, but, after a while, I did think the necessary restoration/rebuilding might give an opportunity to acknowledge how the demographics and indeed the civilisation in the country has changed, irrevocably, from the era of the Cathedral's design and construction. The Cross over the Crossing should really, now, be accompanied by a Crescent, and, for balance, a six-pointed Star. Would that not be a fine symbol of Pluralism, Multi-Culturalism, Miscegenation and Tolerance? Or, at least, an amusing consideration to dispel, momentarily and in different ways for different people, the Weariness which may be found in the News. I prefer the Olds.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jul 22 - 04:40 PM

There is new action comedy movie coming out, " Notre Dame on Fire "
It's by the same French director as The Name of the Rose.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Helen
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 11:06 PM

I can highly recommend the books by McMoneagle. They were interesting and informative.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 10:55 PM

I have a memory block with names and spellings which was a good thing for confidential work but was bad for social life.
Stanford sounds like fascinating place.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Helen
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 05:43 PM

Donuel, I'm halfway through the video you recommended, Third Eye Spies. Thanks, it's interesting.

I realised I misspelled Joseph McMoneagle's surname when I mentioned him before.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 04:34 PM

News that is not wearying for a change:

Simone Biles was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom July 7.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Helen
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 02:23 PM

Maggie,

A news article this week on Oz's ABC news site:

The economic cost of gun violence in America was $810 billion in one year. Here's why.

Here in Australia we read about American gun violence or see it on the news and we are bewildered by it.

Gun Deaths by Country 2022

Hold the cursor over each country and the statistics will show below the map.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 01:09 PM

(Verse)
The more I read the papers
The less I comprehend
The world and all its capers
And how it all will end
Nothing seems to be lasting
But that isn't our affair
We've got something permanent
I mean in the way we share

(Chorus)
It's very clear
Dystopia's here to stay
Not for a year
But ever and a day
The tv and the telephone
And the movies that we know
May just be passing fancies
And in time may go!
But, oh my dear
Dystopia's here to stay
Together we're
Going a long, long way
In time the Rockies may crumble
Gibraltar may tumble
They're only made of clay
But dystopia's here to stay


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 10:56 AM

Throw the assassination of the former Japanese prime minister Abe into the mix and it's a damned grim day today. And in Japan? They are "gobsmacked" said one former Australian ambassador to Japan. "We expect that kind of thing to happen in America."


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: gillymor
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 10:24 AM

That is REally lame.


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Subject: RE: BS: old mc donalds mmm
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 10:09 AM

Barack Obama is an adult,
Trumps a spoiled brat
As an adult its not his fault
Trumps a spoiled brat
Ketchup here and ketchup there
here a bag there a bag
everywhere a french fry

Old man Trump is so damn fat
All he eats is crap
and in that crap is rat feces...
thats old and mold and grease
I know he loves that Mickey D
Soon he'll be deceased ...with...

Ketchup here and ketchup there
here a bag there a bag
everywhere a french fry


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 09:31 AM

Again we are entering a RE age. As we REdefeat the Nazis into the woodwork we need to REengage womens rights, REpair damage done by the Trump corrupted REligious right. Regain democratic values and REmove some meat splattering guns.
REcovering from the early stage of climate change is going to be the hardest thing to do but they say it is REcoverable.
Personally I REally don't think so. I THINK It will take longer than our curREnt species will live.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Jul 22 - 08:54 AM

For the adolescent, life's a bugger --- it's called puberty. (Some alleged grownups never leave it, cf Agent Orange.) In previous centuries, the poorer ones would have been shoved down the mine or up the chimneys; in these allegedly enlightened days, we give them nothing to do and all day to do it in, then wonder why some of them go *sproing* and disappear into the dustier corners of sanity. The surprise to me is that so few do so, to the extent that someone going *sproing* with lethal results is rare enough to be considered newsworthy.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 08:32 PM

Oh, gosh, isn't life hard...


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 08:31 PM

If I were to speak about Naval Intelligence it would not be prudent.

How about narcissists? The profile of the young male mass shooters share a 3 element matrix.
They have;
1 A grandiose towering narcissism
2 an Immense amount of insecurity and grievance
3 An adolescense that believes the world has not respected them or paid them their due.

The young alienated losers have an anger that builds up that the presence of an AR 15 is virtually a shooting waiting to happen.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 08:13 PM

I was responding to gilly...and with all due respect I can not decipher Steve's post or Helen's. Must be an early night.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 06:52 PM

?


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Helen
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 04:38 PM

Clickbait: hooked!


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 04:28 PM

"It annoys me more than I must annoy some of you who have a mindset that I think I am an authority. I've just had experiences and people few of you have ever met up with."

Well I don't know anyone here who thinks that you're an authority on anything. I could be wrong, of course. And we've all had experiences and there are no people I know that you've ever met up with. Have you had visions?


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Helen
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 03:46 PM

Donuel, I read four books about the psychic remote viewing research a couple of years ago. Three of the books were written by Joseph McMonagle and one by Dean Radin. Interesting and fascinating.

As Shakespeare said, "There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy" - or the majority of our scientific studies.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 02:57 PM

I love Prof. Irwin Corey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave Barry is a hilarious humorist in print but can not make anyone crack a smile in person.

I know that the most precious secrets are usually hidden in plain sight but people don't expect to see it. Those things in heaven and Earth that are so strange are merely not accepted in certain cultures and times. I am willing to admit UAPs are real and official research has always continued just as much as psychic remote viewing research has continued but culturally we are supposed to pretend its ridiculous.
It annoys me more than I must annoy some of you who have a mindset that I think I am an authority. I've just had experiences and people few of you have ever met up with. But you could.

A third of my life involved some things mentioned in the Documentary Third Eye Spies because of a government interview when I was a hypnotist In Rochester New York.

There are all kinds of forces of nature out there, I say get to know some, if you dare.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 09:49 AM

Dave Barry is a name that Donuel often drops.


The Seattle Times has been very busy interviewing people regarding the tragedy of the South African teenagers in the tavern/nightclub in "East London".
The story says that a resident of the neighborhood lives so close to that disreputable tavern (now shut down by the authorities) that
some of the teenagers, jumping out a window, landed on her roof or on her lawn.
She phoned the police ten times before dawn,
but authorities were slow to respond.
It makes for grim reading.

report by Lynsey Chutel and Zipo-zenkosi Ncokazi


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 08:57 AM

In reading your posts I sometimes wonder if you're doing a Professor Irwin Corey impersonation,"The World's Greatest Authority ". If so, you should be aware that he was a put-on.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jul 22 - 09:39 PM

The narcissist has an inflated sense of self. When threatened they must belittle others to raise themselves. Trump is a US example, Monty a UK example. Unbearable? Montgomery was arrogant and unlikeable. He famously lacked diplomacy and tact when dealing with others. But this directness made him a military leader. An example of his difficult personality was when US Major General Bedell Smith made a wager that British forces would not capture the Tunisian city of Sfax by 15 April 1943. Sfax fell on 10 April and Montgomery won the bet. As his prize, he demanded an American bomber to use as his personal transport. Smith, who had only entered into the wager in jest, was ultimately compelled to pander to Monty’s 'crass stupidity' at the bidding of General Eisenhower.

'In defeat, unbeatable; in victory, unbearable.'
Winston Churchill on Bernard Montgomery, 1945
Perhaps someone has missed his calling or is immersed in hero worship.

What is up with European spiking of young women in clubs?


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jul 22 - 05:40 PM

And I'm most decidedly not your buddy. I can talk to you civilly if you like, but, if you don't want to, just carry on that way. No worries, as you Aussies are wont to say.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jul 22 - 05:37 PM

A couple of points, however. You emphasise more than once the fact that Putin is a man. Well Margaret Thatcher also started an unjustified war. It's true enough that most conflicts are caused by men at the top, but, at least in part, that's a reflection of the fact that men are overwhelmingly the people in power. You might argue that there would be fewer wars were more women at the heads of governments. You could be right, but you don't know for sure.

Who was it who asked whether there shall be womanly times, or shall we die?

The other thing is that we should be careful not to assign disasters to nature when that might not be justified. I've seen Californian wildfires and floods in Sydney ascribed to Mother Nature. Unfortunately, the increasing consensus among scientists is that man-made climate change is the culprit. It's important that we recognise that, because if we don't we won't think that we have to do anything to fix it.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Helen
Date: 06 Jul 22 - 05:33 PM

Man up, buddy!


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jul 22 - 05:22 PM

One person, maybe. Otherwise, I echo your sentiments heartily.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Helen
Date: 06 Jul 22 - 05:15 PM

I can see that two people on this thread are aptly illustrating why the news is so wearying right now.

Take Putin's invasion of Ukraine, for example. A male with a sense of all-encompassing power to do whatever he wants, decides to invade a peaceful nation for reasons only known and understood by himself, and despite the rational and impassioned pleas of those around him. Why? Because he thinks he knows better than anyone else. And he takes no responsibility for what he is doing to that country, to the people in the armies on both sides, to the civilians on both sides, to the land, and to the society of both sides.

Meanwhile, the poor innocent people - on both sides of the fight - caught in the crossfire, are suffering and dying. And for what? For the sake of a man's out-of-control ego.

Or take the case of COVID. We have been at the mercy of politicians who choose to look after their own interests and ignore the needs of the real people. The people who are suffering, who need vaccines, who need the truth and factual evidence and not squabbling politicians or self-serving politicians who are in denial about what really matters in life here on earth i.e. all of earth's people, the earth itself, the future of our planet.

Or there are the natural disasters which have been hitting our planet, and over which earth's people have little or no control. One disaster after another. And a large chunk of the people who are most vocal, and who have the power to make changes are too busy squabbling about tiny, little things which mean nothing in the great scheme of things.

I'd rather focus on lifting people up than pulling them down. On making people feel better and not worse. On happiness and emotional, spiritual and physical well-being. On reminding people to look on the bright side and not spiral down into depressing thoughts of powerlessness. On looking for positive and proactive actions we can all take to try to make life better for everyone and for the planet.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jul 22 - 04:20 PM

My teapot tempest tirades are typically measured and hard-won. I don't think I have a dark side and no-one I know, friends or family, thinks I have a dark side. In real life I'm a jovial sort of chap. My less serious posts here in joke threads and other founts of whimsy reflect that, I hope. The thing is, you really should speak for yourself instead of this constant and trying habit of yours of needily aligning and comparing yourself with people here who you simply don't know well enough. Mudcat is a wonderful place, but it's also a two-dimensional place. After all your 22 years here, you have yet to pick up on that. Just speak for yourself, give us your considered opinions in plain English (I know that's hard for you) - and leave other people alone.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Jul 22 - 04:01 PM

Cute cat videos?? Where did that come from?


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jul 22 - 02:38 PM

You're a loser.


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Subject: RE: BS: why is the news so wearying right now?
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jul 22 - 01:32 PM

I take it as it comes. 22 years ago there were cries of spam over my hobby. Your singular cries of troll is just as misunderstood. Only a handful of us have stood up against your various teapot tempest tirades. Some say we all have a darkside or meanstreak, some bigger than others, so its better to be a forgiving sort regarding human nature.
My hope is to not become so desensitized that I stop caring. However with years, the hide does harden.


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