Lyr Add: The Countersigns

Subject: Lyr Add: The Countersigns
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Aug 22 - 04:00 PM

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Also in Colcord

Countersigns, The
Partial text(s)

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From Joanna C. Colcord, Songs of American Sailormen (1938 edition),
p. 135. Originally from The Book of Navy Songs.

What said John Paul Jones on the brave Bon Homme Richard;
What said that good fighting man, lashed foe to foe?
You bid me surrender! I ve not yet begun to fight!
And that was the Navy of long, long ago!

What said Captain Lawrence on board the doomed Chesapeake;
What said he when, wounded, they bore him down below?
"Don't give up the ship!" though the Shannon had beaten him!
And that was the Navy of long, long ago!

(2 additional stanzas)
File: Col135

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Countersigns
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Aug 22 - 12:56 PM

This is from All Hands, the Bureau of Naval Personnel Information Bulletin, Number 31, January 1953 - page 58.

THE COUNTERSIGNS

What said John Paul Jones on the brave Bon Homme Richard;
What said that good fighting man, lashed foe to foe?
You bid me surrender! I've not yet begun to fight!
And that was the Navy of long, long ago!

CHORUS
And that is the Navy of all Yankee sailormen!
From seaboard and inland, from mountains and lakes;
The ancient commanders, they gave us the countersigns,
We'll steer by the card in their gallant old wakes!

What said Captain Lawrence on board the doomed Chesapeake;
What said he when wounded, they bore him down below?
"Don't give up the ship!" though the Shannon had beaten him!
And that was the Navy of long, long ago!



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Subject: ADD Version: The Countersigns
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Aug 22 - 01:05 PM

From Mud and Stars, an anthology of World War Songs and Poetry https://archive.org/stream/mudandstarsanant001028mbp/mudandstarsanant001028mbp_djvu.txt, pp 46-47

THE COUNTERSIGNS

(Sung to the chantey Farewell and adieu to you, Spanish ladies)

What said John Paul Jones on the brave "Bon Homme Richard";
What said that good fighting man, lashed foe to foe?
"You bid me surrender! I've not yet begun to fight!"
And that was the Navy of long, long ago!

CHORUS
And that is the Navy of all Yankee sailor men!
From seaboard and inland, from mountains and lakes;
The ancient commanders they gave us the countersigns,
We'll steer by the card in their gallant old wakes!

What said Captain Lawrence on board the doomed "Chesapeake";
What said he, when wounded, they bore him below?
"Don t give up the ship!" though the "Shannon" had beaten him!
And that was the Navy of long, long ago!

[CHORUS]

And once on the "Hartford" what said the great Farragut;
When death for his fleet swam hid neath the flow?
Why, "Damn the torpedoes!" he ordered "full speed ahead!"
And that was the Navy of long, long ago!

[CHORUS]

And what say we now? Has the Navy begun to fight
Will it give up a ship? By the Great Horn Spoon, no!
So it s full speed ahead, and down, down, with the submarines!
For such was the Navy of long, long ago!

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Countersigns
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Aug 22 - 01:19 PM

Here's the entry from the Traditional Ballad Index:

Countersigns, The

DESCRIPTION: Forecastle song. Verses quote John Paul Jones, Admiral Farragut, and Captain Lawrence (of the Chesapeake), citing their actions and bravery. Each verse concludes with "And that was the Navy of long, long ago." Sung to the tune of "Spanish Ladies."
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1926 (The Book of Navy Songs)
KEYWORDS: foc's'le navy sailor
FOUND IN: US
REFERENCES (1 citation):
Colcord-SongsOfAmericanSailormen, p. 135, "The Countersigns" (1 text, 1 tune)
ST Col135 (Partial)
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "Spanish Ladies" (tune) and references there
NOTES [546 words]: For John Paul Jones (1747-1792) and the declaration "I have not yet begun to fight," see the notes to "Paul Jones's Victory" [Laws A4]. For James Lawrence (1781-1813) and his folly in command of the Chesapeake, see "The Chesapeake and the Shannon (I)" [Laws J20]. There is some irony in the fact that this song mentions him being carried belowdecks (to the surgeon) when wounded -- but ignores the fact that this caused the midshipman who did it to be court-martialed and discharged.
David Glasgow Farragut (1801-1870) began the Civil War as a navy captain awaiting orders, living in Virginia and married to a Virginia wife (McPherson, pp. 281-282), but ended up (perhaps by luck as much as anything else) in charge of the fleet destined to attack New Orleans. Being, fortunately, a pretty good sailor, he captured the city -- the first really big Union success of the war (for which see, e.g., "The New Ballad of Lord Lovell (Mansfield Lovell)." His next few operations, against Vicksburg, were less successful (Vickburg was effectively impossible to attack by river), but he still was given command of the next major naval assault on a Gulf Coast city, the 1864 attack on Mobile Bay.
Despite being a lesser city than New Orleans, Mobile was a much tougher nut to crack; the defences of New Orleans had been badly and hastily built. Farragut had wanted to go after Mobile at once, but the Navy department disagreed. They felt Farragut would need ironclads, and all of those were tied up at Charleston and other places (Johnson/McLaughlin, p. 127).
By the time the Navy department changed its mind, their initial assessment had been made correct. Initially nearly defenseless, by August 5, 1864, when Farragut attacked, Mobile Bay was properly fortified, with only one sea channel, forts on each side, and a small fleet including the ironclad Tennessee waiting -- and the harbor entrance sown with mines. (In those days, when the self-propelled torpedo had not been invented, such mines were called "torpedoes"). Farragut's fleet tried to enter the bay -- and watched a monitor hit a mine and sink almost instantly. (The things were hardly seaworthy, after all.)
Most of the fleet stopped -- right under the guns of the harbor forts. Farragut, lashed to the mast, knew what he had to do: He had to get through the channel, even if the mines took more ships. So he ordered "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead." (McPherson, p. 761. The Union fleet made it into the harbor, and after a hard battle captured the city.
We note that hardly anyone seems to mention the signal "For God's sake" that Farragut wanted to send after one of his own ships did its best to ram and sink him (Johnson/McLaughlin, p. 134.)
At first, the North didn't think much of the victory; Farragut had lost over 300 men and a monitor (Catton, p. 371). But in fact it was a severe blow, since the Confederacy lost its last major Gulf Coast port; all that was left were a few heavily-blockaded East Coast ports and some minor harbors in Texas, too far from the rail net to do much good. The North eventually woke up; Farragut became first Vice Admiral and then Admiral -- the first such in American history (just as U. S. Grant was the first full General). And Farragut's words passed into folklore. - RBW
Bibliography


• Catton: Bruce Catton, Never Call Retreat (being the third volume of The Centennial History of the Civil War), Doubleday, 1965 (I use the 1976 Pocket Books edition)
• Johnson/McLaughlin: Curt Johnson & Mark McLaughlin, Civil War Battles, Crown Books, 1977
• McPherson: James M. McPherson, The Battle Cry of Freedom (The Oxford History of the United States: The Civil War Era), Oxford, 1988

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