Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 06:24 AM

Are the co-op doing the funeral and boiled ham sandwiches?

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 06:43 AM

The tea and butties at the end is the best bit of a funeral. You can take off your jacket, rip off your tie and undo your top button. What a relief. The last one I went to had a coffee bubbler in the corner. I drew off a cup and it tasted like rat poison. Good butties though. Egg mayo are my favourite. You have to wonder how long they've been sitting there, then decide to take the risk. The catering sausage rolls and mini-pasties should be avoided at all costs. Hope this helps.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 06:59 AM

A prequisite of attending the funeral must be an extremely strong bladder!!

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 07:07 AM

Or Tena pants

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 07:13 AM

Or Billy Connolly's incontinence pants...

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 07:18 AM

I hate funerals at which they do NOT sing "How Great Thou Art." I overcome all my rabid atheism and sing that one out - and only that one - very lustily every time!

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 07:26 AM

That gun carriage hasn't been out since 1979. I hope they remembered to WD40 its hubs...

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 07:58 AM

I may try a gin and Dubonnet later. If I can find a shop open...

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 08:01 AM

I'll have what Princess Margaret used to drink. Only a lot less of it.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 08:11 AM

”If I can find a shop open...“

Our nearby Spar is open…

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 08:21 AM

Aye, ours too John but I suspect they do Dubonnet

Maggie's tipple is said to have been Famous Grouse with a splash of Highland Spring. Sounds a good substitute

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 08:23 AM

...don't do Dubonnet...

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 08:32 AM

Many moons ago, when my dad was the manager of a Burtons shop in Pendleton, he told the tale of one of his rather feckless shop assistants who was planning a holiday in France.

Can you speak any French? asked my dad.

Well a little bit...

What French do you know then?

Er, "do 'ave a Dubonnet..."

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 11:09 AM

You can't avoid this ritual drama on the news briefs that come through Instagram - I find it interesting how they managed to walk all that way with the pillow and crown, sphere, and sword on perched on top of the casket without jostling them off. Maybe the guys on either side were warned to catch them if they fell off, or maybe there are really strong magnets holding everything in place?

I also noticed that while Kate was wearing that four-strand pearl choker with the diamond clip that Meghan wasn't wearing any jewelry, save pearl earrings. I bet she could have talked to one of the Beverly Hills jewelry brokers and gotten them to cough up some Harry Winston to sparkle during the funeral - they'd have gotten tons of press from that. Maybe that's a "note to herself" for the next time one of these happens.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 11:42 AM

Some of you will know Will Jackson (ex- Magna Carta). He used to be a choirboy at Windsor Chapel when he was a kid.
He said the Royals were miserable gits. The choir used to have to work for hours on really complicated bits of music (like you have heard today, if you haven't taken avoiding action!) and none of the royal family ever said a word of appreciation.

The only time they heard from the Royals was if their majesties complained if the choirboys were spotted having a game of footy, from some lofty viewpoint in the castle.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 11:57 AM

The pearls worn by Kate were significant in that they were the late Queen's. Kate has worn them before as did Diana. Pearls have been a symbol of mourning in the Royal Family since Queen Vic's time

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 12:02 PM

I read about the other occasions when Kate wore this. It's probably quite a process to get this jewelry out of the vault. I suppose at this time they have a set of color photo cards or a program so they can look through what's there and choose what is brought to try on. Mostly I've read that a lot of these pieces are very heavy.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 12:07 PM

Husband came over this morning. We watched the early parts of The Funeral on TV, then he went outside to cut both lawns with the small electric mower. It's the only day he could have done this, as he's working all hours from tomorrow onwards, and I'm physically unable to do it myself..
The mower only makes a quiet buzzing noise, and it takes about fifteen minutes, but a new woman who's moved in across the road came out all guns blazing and bellowed, "Haven't you any respect?"
I reckon one can mow a bloomin' lawn today without being accused by a 'Karen' of being 'disrespectful of the Queen's funeral down in London.
I merely shrugged and grunted, and she went back indoors slamming her door ferociously.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 12:14 PM

Suggested answer - madam, you are very ugly but my grass will be cut in 10 minutes!!!

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Rain Dog
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 12:19 PM

As they sang today at the Chapel service;
For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Or as I remember it from the Ash Wednesday service:
Remember, man, that thou art dust, and unto dust thou shalt return.

Ash Wednesday was always one of my favourite services, cheerful soul that I am.

Well done to all those who played a part today, including those who lined the routes.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 12:29 PM

Hee hee Bonzo! She's from an RAF family, and has mounted a huge flagpole in her front garden, and hoisted a massive RAF flag at half-mast. She's entitled to do so of course, but not to dictate to others about mowing a lawn for a short time.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 12:38 PM

Ask if she has planning permission.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Tunesmith
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 12:55 PM

God only knows how much the Queen - and now Charlie Boy - are really worth. For example, the Queen's PRIVATE art collection is valued at 10 billion pounds!
   The Royal family are parasites. They have become richer and richer because the majority of their very stupid loyal subjects thinks that the sun shines out of their royal asses.
    One UK cliche that drives me mad is the oft repeated phrase "I wouldn't do their - the royals- job for all the tea in China". Really?            
    Well, the top prize in Europe's biggest lottery is around £200,000, and I've worked out - I think - that if a person were to win that jackpot every week for 1000 years, that would about equal the value of the Queen's paintings. Immoral? Obscene? But,there is one consolation. The Queen won't be going to heaven because Jesus - no less - made it quite clear that rich people will not enter the Kingdom of God. Now, as the Queen is head of the Church of England, I would like to think that she is familiar with the Bible, and so that suggests that A) The Queen thinks that Jesus was misquoted or that B) the "rich" rule doesn't apply to her or C) She thinks the Bible is a load of nonsense. Anyway, whatever she thought it is an interesting insight into the world of the very secretive - and very immoral -Royal family

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 01:06 PM

Exactly Manitas. Her brother (also ex-RAF) came over several weeks ago and hoisted the Union Jack upside down on her flagpole! With an England flag (red and white) underneath it. I had to point out to him it was the wrong way up, and he asked me if the other flag was Poland's !!! I had to explain that no, it was the cross of St George, and our English flag.
I don't think this lady will fit in well in our village. She has a yappy little chihuahua called Barney, and hardly ever walks him.
But we are NOT 'disrespectful'. Many years ago I took my husband down to London to visit Buckingham Palace which was open to the public. And we've visited Sandringham too. He's most interested in British history, and knows the names and life-stories of many of our monarchs.
Her shouty complaint rather upset me.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 02:25 PM

I especially liked how some of the roses stayed on the hearse.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 02:59 PM

A gardener friend of mine has identified some of the plants in that wreath. He tells me that Charles requested they come from her gardens. He says there are David Austin roses along with rosemary and there is also myrtle in the center the wreath that came from the queen's original wedding bouquet. I don't know if it's dried or they managed to grow myrtle from the cutting in the bouquet.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Tunesmith
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 03:17 PM

I think I'm going to throw up!

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 03:55 PM

I can quite believe that Tunesmith, you really talk absolute drivel.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Tunesmith
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 04:00 PM

Bonzo3legs: Now, and no fudging. PLEASE! Tell me about this drivel?
Was the Queen fabulously rich? Does that, according to Jesus, disqualify her from getting to heaven? Did she have the world's most valuable private art collection? Any, drivel there?

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Acorn4
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 04:30 PM

I'm glad the wittering commentators shut up during the actual service.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 05:17 PM

As I have said before, I am not particularly pro or anti royal but I found the whole event quite amazing. The cost must have been ridiculous but it was certainly spectacular. I think us Brits (sez half Polish me) can put on a good show!

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 05:26 PM

I think this answers your questions, Stilly

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/queens-funeral-kings-goodbye-message-prince-andrews-tears-and-the-young-royals-key-moments-so-far-12701277

Too late for my old brain to do a link!

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 05:28 PM

I watched the whole thing on BBC Amwrica, and the commentators did almost no commenting till the drive to Windsor Castle. Bravo.

I looked away for a minute towards the end and *Boom!* suddenly there is Jean-Luc Picard in his plummy public school accent.

No after-analysis. Bravo, again.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: robomatic
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 06:03 PM

Yeah, great mass choreography. It's easy to critique the royals, but I prefer their shows to those on offer in the past such as Red Square, Nuremberg, and that stadium in North Korea where they do those mass flash card shows. Those have been abominations in all caps.

Remember when Trmp wanted to do pig barade in Washington and was discouraged out of it?

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 06:41 PM

Ye gods yes, we can put on a show. But don't let a good show delude you into thinking that it reflects any kind of bog-standard reality. That's what will confront us in the weeks to come, and this has been a huge diversion from the difficulties that lie ahead.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Stanron
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 08:37 PM

The denier seems to fly a lonely flag. I didn't watch any of it but I did enjoy, am still enjoying, a day of no TV adverts.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: robomatic
Date: 19 Sep 22 - 09:31 PM

I have also enjoyed the varied music on BBC 3 which has complemented events without becoming an echo chamber, at least when I've been tuned to it.

I also think when Yankees express condolences it is also an obvious attempt to express affection and siblinghood to an incredibly diverse collection of angels and ne'er-do-wells through anything perceived as a symbol of commonality. And she had a fine profile!

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 01:49 AM

The usual lonely sad disenting pathetic voice from Mr Shaw!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 02:32 AM

I think it is just a pity we cannot do the pomp and ceremony without all the Royal nonsense that goes with it!

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Senoufou
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 03:09 AM

I shall get blasted for this, but I'm absolutely sick and tired of being bombarded with endless stuff about HM's death, funeral, life etc etc.
After my husband shuffled off back to his flat yesterday, I put on my TV, hoping to watch some interesting programmes. Even the commercial breaks had been usurped by a black screen and a tiny white line of text! My newspaper is about an inch thick and will hardly get through my letterbox. I have to wade through page upon page of You-Know-What before any other news is found, not to mention my four pages of puzzles and letters.
Please, enough already!
I suppose the same over-reporting will occur around King Charles' coronation. I think I'm turning into an anti-monarchist!

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: BobL
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 03:12 AM

For the record, Jesus said it was difficult for the rich to get to heaven, not impossible. Joseph of Arimathea, for example, is regarded by the Church as a saint.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 03:23 AM

You may only get blasted by the knee bending sycophant, Sen. The majority on here are either ambivalent like me, staunch republicans or people, like you, who are sick and tired of the whole thing. One good thing may come out of it - you may stop reading the Daily Heil :-)

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Tunesmith
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 04:32 AM

BobL "For the record, Jesus said it was difficult for the rich to get to heaven, not impossible".

For the record, Jesus did say it was impossible for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God because it is impossible for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. Get it!

BTW, I would think that the "rich man" passage was, t some point, inserted into the Bible by a rich man to deter the common folk from wanting to be rich.

But, back to the Queen. If she was a true Christian, and believed in the word of God (The Bible), why would she remain rich and ruin her chance of entering paradise? It doesn't make sense. Unless...

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 04:38 AM

During reading about the support the monarchy in the past week or so, I found that about 30% of the population are not monarchists.

I confidently predict that this will rise to 40% in the next five years.

Charles didn't exactly get off to a good start when we sacked 100 of his staff last week.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Senoufou
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 04:40 AM

Hee hee Dave! But I think all the newspapers were full of the stuff.
The lady who brings my newspaper just arrived and she too said she was 'disgusted' with my husband and me for having the 'lack of respect' in mowing our lawns yesterday. I'm afraid I snapped, as I've had quite enough of this tripe. I told her that no-one has the right to ban me from gardening because of a funeral all the way down south in London for a woman I've never even met,let alone knew. She stormed off and I slammed my door.
And of course, the Daily Mail is inches thick again, with photos, commentary etc etc.
Are there any spaceships leaving for Mars? I'd like to book a seat.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Acorn4
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 05:02 AM

A friend of ours who we go out on a walk with on Friday mornings takes the "Daily Mail".

She has a really balanced view on life and is very tolerant of other people's opinions.

I raised this point with her and queried why this is. Her answer:-

"I only read the sports pages"

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 05:47 AM

I read that the staff haven't been sacked or made redundant but have been warned that there may be redundancies.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 06:05 AM

You are quiet correct Manitas, however I have never know of a situation where staff have been notified of redundancies for those redundancies not to occur.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 06:37 AM

Manitas - "I read that the staff haven't been sacked or made redundant but have been warned that there may be redundancies."

Raggy - "You are quite correct Manitas, however I have never known of a situation where staff have been notified of redundancies for those redundancies not to occur."

Yes, the first step in the Redundancies Consultation Process, after determining that Redundancies may be necessary, is to inform your employees of that fact - that Redundancies may be necessary, and that some, or all, of their jobs may be at risk - and, if numbers of employees are over a minimum limit, a time-scale is set upon the Consultation Process.

As usual, the media and the Haters seem to have jumped on those notifications and sensationalised them to suit their own ends. It's a bit sad really.

Subject: RE: Queen Elizabeth II / King Charles
From: Tunesmith
Date: 20 Sep 22 - 07:37 AM

I good way to get inside the heads of the royals is their attitude towards the funding of the Queen's funeral. Now, millions of Brits will be facing massive hardships this winter with ridiculously high fuel and fool bills but in spite of that they are expected to pay for the Queen's funeral. Now, if Charlie Boy sold just one painting - say a Vermeer - it would pay for the cost of the funeral with lots of money to spare. But, he wouldn't dream of doing that! All the Royals' concern for the wellbeing of their adoring citizens is just a sham.