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Tune Req: Captain Avery / Two English Travellers
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Subject: ADD: Captain Avery From: GUEST,Patrick N Date: 20 Sep 22 - 12:13 PM I'm looking for the original tune of a song called Captain Every, a.k.a. Bold Captain Avery (Roud 1674). I can only find one recording of it, by an artist named Technofunkboy, and his melody does not sound traditional. The original broadside (found here) states that it's to the tune of "The two English Travellers", but I can't find any recordings or sheet music for that either. Apparently Claude Simpson claimed that it no longer survives. Does anyone have any leads about where I could look for more information? Captain Avery Lyrics added by Joe Offer from link above.
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Captain Avery / Two English Travellers From: GUEST,Harry Date: 20 Sep 22 - 12:52 PM "The two English travelers . . . Its popularity can be judged from the existence of more than twenty broadsides naming the tune for singing, but unhappily the music has not been preserved." Claude M. Simpson: The British Broadside Ballad and its Music. Rutgers University Press, New Brunswick, 1966, pp 782-783. A footnote adds: "One ballad sung to 'The Two English Travellers' is printed with meaningless music combining scraps of "Lillibulero": "Romes Doctor". c. 1689, reprinted in [The Pepys Ballads, ed Hyder E. Rollins, 8 Vols 1929-32. (Vol IV, p291).] Of course, as this work was published over 50 years ago, more recent research may have discovered the tune. Harry |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Captain Avery / Two English Travellers From: GUEST,Harry Date: 20 Sep 22 - 02:52 PM And here it is: Romes Doctor Perhaps you can make more of it than Simpson did? Harry |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Captain Avery / Two English Travellers From: GUEST,Patrick N Date: 20 Sep 22 - 03:57 PM Thank you for sharing- this is certainly interesting, although not heartening. I doubt I will have any more luck than a scholar like Simpson did, but it is enjoyable nonetheless to see some early notation and puzzle it out a little. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Captain Avery / Two English Travellers From: Steve Gardham Date: 20 Sep 22 - 05:23 PM There is a very detailed article by Joel H. Baer on the history of the ballad in Folk Music Journal 1995 Vol 7, Number 1 pp4-26. Although it repeats Simpson's opinions it does give a traditional tune collected from John Hatch of Winchester, by Gardiner in 1907. It gives details of all the broadsides up to Pitts time and Hatch's tune. |
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