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Gerry 31 May 97 - 12:44 PM
Gerry 31 May 97 - 12:46 PM
Bill D --extree@erols.com 31 May 97 - 03:14 PM
GUEST,mysterious 14 Jul 10 - 02:23 AM
The Doctor 14 Jul 10 - 10:06 AM
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Subject: h-g
From: Gerry
Date: 31 May 97 - 12:44 PM

Has anyone got the lyrics for the old folksong "The Keys of Canterbury"?


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Subject: The Keys of Canterbury
From: Gerry
Date: 31 May 97 - 12:46 PM

Anyone got the lyrics?


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Subject: Lyr Add: KEYS OF CANTERBURY / KEYS TO CANTERBURY
From: Bill D --extree@erols.com
Date: 31 May 97 - 03:14 PM

I'll be durned...that's one I thought for sure would be in the database (they DO have "Paper of Pins" which is a first cousin)

Ok, here you go...from memory..

Oh, Madam, I will give to you the Keys of Canterbury,
And all the bells of London, to ring & make you merry,
If you will be my darling, my joy & my dear..
If you will go a'walkin' with me everywhere.

reply: "oh, sir I'll not accepet for you the Keys of Canterbury..etc
...and I'll not go a'walkin' with you everywhere.

"Oh Madam, I will give to you, a pair of boots of cork..
The one made in London, the other made in York..etc...

"Oh madame, I will give to you a little Ivory comb
to fasten up your golden locks, when I am not at home.

"Oh madame, I will give to you the keys to my heart
And all my sacred promises that we will never part...

Final reply:
Sir, I will accept from you, the keys to your heart
To lock it up forever that we never more shall part.
And I will be your bride, your joy & your dear..
And will take a walk with you anywhere.

( you sing the 'anywheres' and 'take a walk'/'go a walkin' to suit yourself... I have never figured out which is 'right'....also 'darlin' & 'bride'

There may be other verses, but these are the standard ones.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: GUEST,mysterious
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:23 AM

it doesnt have the verse with the comb in it its :


madam i will give to a pair of boots of cork
one made in london and the other made in york
if you will be my darling my sweet and only dear
and walk along with me anywhere


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: The Doctor
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 10:06 AM

This is the version recorded by Vulcan's Hammer in 1973, with Phil and Kay singing alternate verses:

Oh madam, I will give to you the keys of Canterbury,
And all the bells of London shall ring to make us merry,
If you will be my joy, my sweet and only dear,
And walk along with me anywhere.

I shall not, sir, accept of you the keys of Canterbury,
Nor all the bells of London shall ring to make us merry.
I will not be your joy, your sweet and only dear,
Nor walk along with you anywhere.

Then, madam, I will give to you a pair of boots of cork,
Though one be made in London, and the other made in York.....

I shall not, sir.....

Then, madam, I shall give to you a little silver bell
To ring for all your servants and make them serve you well.....

I shall not, sir.....
To ring for all my servants and make them serve me well.....

Then, madam, I will give to you a gallant silver chest,
With a key of gold and silver, and jewels of the best.....

I shall not, sir.....

Then, madam, I will give to you the embroidered silken gown,
With nine yards a-dangling, and a train unto the ground.....

Oh sir, I will accept of you the embroidered silken gown.....

(sung as a duet) And I/you will be your/my joy.....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: Roberto
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 10:25 AM

Keys of Canterbury
Oscar Brand & Jean Ritchie
Elektra

Madam I will give to you the keys of Canterbury
And all the bells of London town to ring and make you merry
If you will be my darling, my joy and my dear
If you will go a-walking with me anywhere

Sir I'll not accept from you the keys of Canterbury
Though all the bells of London should ring and make us merry
And I'll not be your bride, your joy and your dear
And I'll not take a walk with you anywhere

Madam I will give to you a pair of boots of cork
O, one was made in London and the other made in York
If you will be my darling, my joy and my dear
If you will go a-walking with me anywhere

Well, Sir I'll not accept from you a pair of boots of cork
Though one was made in London and the other made in York
And I'll not be your bride, your joy nor your dear
And I'll not take a walk with you anywhere

Madam I will give to you the keys to me heart
And all my secret promises that we shall never part
If you will be my darling, my joy and my dear
If you will go a-walking with me anywhere

O Sir I will accept from you the keys to your heart
To lock it up forever that we never more may part
And I will be your bride, your joy and your dear
And I will take a walk with you anywhere


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 12:43 PM

The Doctor's version given above is word for word from the version that appears in various published Cecil Sharp collections, and its the one I remember singing at school too!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: foggers
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 12:45 PM

Oooops that was me, posting sans cookie, during a rain-dodging idle moment at the work station before dashing out to the car....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:04 PM

No doubt 'mysterious' will be along again to tell us we still don't have it 'right', and that 'embroidered silken gown' isn't in it either. *grin*...

Hey, mysterious...it's a FOLK song... it has in it whatever we 'folk' remember being in it.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE KEYS OF CANTERBURY
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 10:11 PM

Note this old version has a less sentimental ending!

From The Nursery Rhymes of England, edited by James Orchard Halliwell (London: John Russell Smith, 1846), page 229:


THE KEYS OF CANTERBURY.

1. Oh, madam, I will give you the keys of Canterbury,
To set all the bells ringing when we shall be merry,
If you will but walk abroad with me,
If you will but walk with me.
Sir, I'll not accept of the keys of Canterbury,
To set all the bells ringing when we shall be merry;
Neither will I walk abroad with thee;
Neither will I talk with thee!

2. Oh, madam, I will give you a fine carved comb,
To comb out your ringlets when I am from home,
If you will but walk with me, &c.
Sir, I'll not accept, &c.

3. Oh, madam, I will give you a pair of shoes of cork,*
One made in London, the other made in York,
If you will but walk with me, &c.
Sir, I'll not accept, &c.

4. Madam, I will give you a sweet silver bell,**
To ring up your maidens when you are not well,
If you will but walk with me, &c.
Sir, I'll not accept, &c.

5. Oh, my man John, what can the matter be?
I love the lady and the lady loves not me!
Neither will she walk abroad with me,
Neither will she talk with me.
Oh, master dear, do not despair,
The lady she shall be, shall be your only dear,
And she will walk and talk with thee,
And she will walk with thee!

6. Oh, madam, I will give you the keys of my chest,
To count my gold and silver when I am gone to rest,
If you will but walk abroad with me,
If you will but talk with me.
Oh, sir, I will accept of the keys of your chest,
To count your gold and silver when you are gone to rest,
And I will walk abroad with thee,
And I will talk with thee!


* This proves the song was not later than the era of chopines, or high cork shoes.
** Another proof of antiquity. It must probably have been written before the invention of bell-pulls.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: Brian Peters
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 03:28 AM

These 'Will You Marry Me' songs seem to go back to an old ballad (one that F J Child chose not to include in his collection) in which one protagonist is actually the Devil. I've just recorded a version - sentimental it is not!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 12:48 AM

I recall a version, starting & ending with the My·Man·John verses, is on one of the Dransfields' early vinyl albums under title "My Man John".

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: Roberto
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 01:32 AM

I'd like to know the ballad Brian Peters refers to. He's recorded Child #1 (Riddls Wisely Expounded), but not in the very last CD, and that is a ballad with the devil in disguise...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: GUEST,synbyn
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 07:03 AM

Version sung by Tantethra on the Keys Of Canterbury CD, first of 3 issued by Steel Carpet featuring Songs of Kent... still available, I thimk, & a songbook available


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: Brian Peters
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 07:31 AM

"I'd like to know the ballad Brian Peters refers to."

The Devil's Courtship, from the Andrew Crawfurd collection - there's a second version somewhere, as well. It's on my forthcoming CD which I was putting the finishing touches to this last week. There was no tune so I had to make one up.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 10:13 AM

"The Devil's Courtship, from the Andrew Crawfurd collection"

Sounds fascinating Brian!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: Brian Peters
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 02:25 PM

Yes, it is interesting - not least because it's rare for a Devil ballad, in that the Devil actually wins.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 02:29 PM

Yes, I think I found the lyric after some rummaging. She gets iffy about the deal after she spies his cloven hoof (just after accepting his gold). Then he clings fast onto her as he rides into the night, so she can't escape! Great stuff, looking forward to hearing it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: Brian Peters
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 12:52 PM

That's the one. A cloven foot scarcely ever constitutes a positive character reference, in my experience.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: GUEST,Charlotte Davis
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 08:20 AM

These are the verses sung by Show of Hands in their version on the CD AIG

Madam i will give you the keys of canterbury
And all the bells in London shall ring to make us merry
If you will be my joy, my sweet and only dear
And walk along with me anywhere

Sir I won't accept from you the keys of canterbury
And all the bells in London won't ring to make us merry
I will not be your joy, your sweet and only dear
Or walk along with you anywhere

Madam i will give you this fine silken gown
With nine yards a trailing, a drooping on the ground
If you will be my joy, my sweet and only dear
And walk along with me anywhere

Sir I won't accept from you your fine silken gown
With nine yards a trailing, a drooping on the ground
I will not be your joy, your sweet and only dear
Or walk along with you anywhere

Madam i will give you this small golden bell
So you may ring our servents and they may serve us well
If you will be my joy, my sweet and only dear
And walk along with me anywhere

Sir I won't accept from you your small golden bell
So we may ring our servents and they may serve us well
I will not be your joy, your sweet and only dear
Or walk along with you anywhere

(There is an additional bit here that i cannot remember but it ends:
You will not be bourght
you will not be sold
You won't be mine to have and hold
Or walk along with me anywhere)

Madam I will give you the keys to my heart
So we might be together and never more shall part
If you will be my joy, my sweet and only dear
And walk along with me anywhere

Sir I will accept from you the keys to your heart
So we may be together and never more shall part
I will be your joy, your sweet and only dear
And walk along with you anywhere


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: GUEST,John Klein
Date: 08 Jun 11 - 02:50 PM

Im not sure my mother used to play it on a recorder for me and then she would sing the first two verses. I guess she didnt know there is more. I think The Docter is right though.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 08 Jun 11 - 07:30 PM

Brian,
The only other 'devil' version I know of is the one given in Chambers 'Popular Rhymes of Scotland' 1841, p64, repeated notes in JFSS 33 pp150-151. This only mentions the devil in a spoken intro and conclusion to a usual version (i.e., cantefable style) whereas Crawfurd 1, p104 actually includes the devil episode in the concluding verses.

I am highly suspicious of both of these.

None of the 4 versions given in Greig Duncan Vol4 have any mention of the devil.

Crawfurd was known to have Scottified English material and even though it's the earliest text I don't trust it. There are other examples of English quite secular ballads being embellished in Scotland with supernatural beings. The Chambers version even mentions 'Bristol Town'.

Robert Chambers is also not an altogether trustworthy editor and he gives no indication where his cantefable version came from. Even if this version is genuinely from oral tradition the interferences of the collectors and editors soon fell into oral tradition, 'Peter Buchan's 'Bonny Lass of Fyvie' being a prime example.

The piece is highly typical of the quite rare country ditties that used to be performed as a dialogue at village shows in past centuries.
Certainly no stall copy has yet surfaced and I don't expect to find one, but I wouldn't be surprised to find it dated back at least to the 18th century. Music Hall versions however do exist. It gets a mention in Kilgarriff.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: GUEST,Brian Milner
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 03:28 PM

It's a long time since I heard this song (early seventies?), but I'm sure the penultimate verse was:-
Oh madam I will give to you a little golden ring
To wear upon your finger to make you dance and sing
If you will be love, etc.
Nor do I remember verses about a dress/gown, however the little bell was silver!
From the various postings, it appears there are several versions of the song, so who is to say which if any is correct? As Bill D said, it's a folk song, so it's what people remember, because it isn't written anywhere.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 10:18 AM

I found the music for this at a nice flute-music site:

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keys of Canterbury / Keys to Canterbury
From: GUEST,Steve Fowles
Date: 27 Sep 14 - 08:45 AM

Oh, madam, I will give to you the keys to Canterbury
And all the bells of London town will ring to make us merry
If you will be my bride, my sweetheart and my dear,
If you will walk with me anywhere.
    Oh, no, I'll not accept of you the keys to Canterbury
    Though all the bells of London should ring to make us merry
    And I'll not be your bride, your sweetheart nor your dear,
    And I'll not walk with you anywhere.
Oh, madam, I will give to you a pair of boots of cork,
Though one was made in London and the other was made in York,
If you will be my bride, my sweetheart and my dear,
If you will walk with me anywhere.
    Oh, no, I'll not accept of you a pair of boots of cork,
    Though both were made in London or both were made in York,
    And I'll not be your bride, your sweetheart nor your dear,
    And I'll not walk with you anywhere.
Oh, madam, I will give to you a little golden bell,
To ring for all your servants and to make them serve you well,
If you will be my bride, my sweetheart and my dear,
If you will walk with me anywhere.
    Oh, no, I'll not accept of you a little golden bell,
    To ring for all my servants and to make them serve me well,
    And I'll not be your bride, your sweetheart nor your dear,
    And I'll not walk with you anywhere.
Oh, madam, I will give to you a gallant silver chest,
With a key of golden silver and jewels of the best,
If you will be my bride, my sweetheart and my dear,
If you will walk with me anywhere.
    Oh, no, I'll not accept of you a gallant silver chest,
    With a key of golden silver and jewels of the best,
    And I'll not be your bride, your sweetheart nor your dear,
    And I'll not walk with you anywhere.
Oh, madam, I will give to you an embroidered silken gown,
With nine yards a-drooping and a-trailing on the ground,
If you will be my bride, my sweetheart and my dear,
If you will walk with me anywhere.
    Oh, no, I won't accept of you an embroidered silken gown,
    With nine yards a-drooping and a-trailing on the ground,
    And I'll not be your bride, your sweetheart nor your dear,
    And I'll not walk with you anywhere.
Oh, madam, I will give to you the keys to my heart,
And all the love that's in it and we nevermore shall part,
If you will be my bride, my sweetheart and my dear,
If you will walk with me anywhere.
    Oh, yes I will accept of you the keys to your heart
    And all the love that's in it and we nevermore shall part,
    And I'll will be your bride, your sweetheart and your dear,
    And I'll will walk with you anywhere.


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