BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 May 23 - 03:25 PM

Considering that Donald has wasted money he inherited and leveraged money he borrowed and gone bankrupt several times, the "no chattel" part seems about right.

Fani Willis has alerted the Atlanta courthouse community to not schedule trials between August 7 and 14, after they return from a conference they're attending in the first week of August. From the NY Post: “Thank you for your consideration and assistance in keeping the Fulton County Judicial Complex safe during this time,” Willis wrote in her memo to staff and judges. I dislike the Post so I'll stick with just that quote. I think The Hill is readable to all (no paywall): Georgia prosecutor clears decks for possible Trump charges

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 May 23 - 04:19 PM

I didn't detect any personal insult. Donuel's post was pointless and, as such, was vulnerable to challenge.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 21 May 23 - 04:13 PM

George W Bush was known as 'all hat and no cattle',
Comparing DeSantis to a villain DISNEY character is rife with possibility. I just don't know which one is most suitable.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 22 May 23 - 07:12 AM

The reality of Trump behind bars brings up factors that one can predict. He is accustomed to a servant lifestyle and will certainly confuse the guards as his servants. Big mistake.
I do not expect good behavior but I do expect obsequious trickery.
'Everything Trump touches dies including his lawyers' is a frequent saying.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: gillymor
Date: 22 May 23 - 08:51 AM

The guy is as slippery as a frog. He may never wear the orange jumpsuit.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 May 23 - 01:03 PM

He would end up at one of those minimum security places for the ultra rich non-violent types (though his words certainly inspire violence, so look out). Or under house arrest at his golf course.

He has cornered the market in orange for his daily spray of face color.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 May 23 - 05:14 PM

Another contender has declared for the GOP post in the presidential race.

And with DeSantis trying to one-up Trump, Florida sounds like a terribly place to live right now. DeSantis’s $13.5m police program lures officers with violent records to Florida
Governor’s incentive scheme recruits officers with history of excessive violence or who have been arrested since signing up

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 22 May 23 - 06:46 PM

When Trump gets lawyers those lawyers have to get lawyers or quit.
People have tried to out-trump Trump to no avail. The NYT says, prosecutors are examining Trump's foreign business deals from 2017/
??
Even his ex-lawyer with the outrageous mustache says Trump is going to jail over the classified documents case since notes were found warning Trump to not do it. Even slimy frogs get stepped on.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 22 May 23 - 07:02 PM

If Trump does become PRESIDENT FROM JAIL, HIS CHIEF OF STALL MIGHT GET AN UNLOCKED ADJACENT CELL

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Helen
Date: 22 May 23 - 07:37 PM

E Jean Carroll seeks new damages from Donald Trump over post-verdict statements

"Writer E Jean Carroll sought on Monday to amend the first of her two defamation lawsuits against Donald Trump to demand at least $US10 million ($15 million) in additional damages, citing comments he made on CNN after a jury found him liable for sexually abusing her."

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 May 23 - 10:06 PM

I think she's entirely within her rights, and why go to court again, everyone saw it. More power to Jean.

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From: Helen
Date: 22 May 23 - 11:32 PM

SRS, the last two paragraphs of the article are the key issue, I think:

"Her original November 2019 lawsuit has been bogged down in appeals over whether Mr Trump was immune from being sued because he had been president when he spoke.

"Ms Carroll's lawyers said in a letter to US District Judge Lewis Kaplan on Monday that because Mr Trump's alleged defamatory statements were essentially the same, the only open issues are whether he was immune for making the first statement and, if not, what damages he owes."

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From: Donuel
Date: 23 May 23 - 06:13 AM

The very next day he called her a 'WHACK JOB' on national TV (CNN)
That might be 10 million dollars per whack job statement for Donald.
The irony is delicious as to who is a whack job.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 May 23 - 10:32 AM

More details about the subpoena to collect the documents he removed from the White House: Trump was warned about retaining classified documents, notes reveal
Exclusive: Unreported warning contained in notes taken by lawyer Evan Corcoran that prosecutors have viewed in recent months

Federal prosecutors have evidence Donald Trump was put on notice that he could not retain any classified documents after he was subpoenaed for their return last year, as they examine whether the subsequent failure to fully comply with the subpoena was a deliberate act of obstruction by the former president.

The previously unreported warning conveyed to Trump by his lawyer Evan Corcoran could be significant in the criminal investigation surrounding Trump’s handling of classified materials given it shows he knew about his subpoena obligations.

Last June, Corcoran found roughly 40 classified documents in the storage room at Mar-a-Lago and told the justice department that no further materials remained at the property. That was later shown to be untrue, after the FBI later returned with a warrant and seized 101 additional classified documents.

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From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 23 - 06:47 PM

Stupid gum. Trump will have court appearances in the middle of candidate selection.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Helen
Date: 25 May 23 - 12:56 AM

Ron DeSantis needed his 2024 presidential launch to go perfectly to catch up to Trump. Then Twitter had a meltdown

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From: Helen
Date: 25 May 23 - 01:51 AM

Every time I see a photo of Elon Musk, or a news item about him, I wonder when (not whether) he will decide to try to step in Trump's presidential shoes. The idiotic photo of Musk at the top of the article I just linked to just makes me more worried.

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From: Ebbie
Date: 25 May 23 - 02:17 AM

Born in South Africa, Musk, of course, is not eligible to become USA president. Adviser and influencer, yes....

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 25 May 23 - 08:19 AM

Ron DeSantis real name is Ronald D. Santis. His wife suggested going with De Santis. They were married in Disney's Wonderland Amusment Park in an awkward 19 yr old trophy-wife ceremony. Ron is a tad older.

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From: gillymor
Date: 25 May 23 - 09:01 AM

Around here we just call him Duh Santis.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 May 23 - 12:04 PM

All of these court cases are circling the drain - Trump is closer and closer to really going down for a crime, not just being found guilty of sexual assault in civil court. I have my popcorn ready.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 25 May 23 - 12:27 PM

You and your low-sodium popcorn. A jail sentence is worthy of a Mcdonald's feast.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Helen
Date: 25 May 23 - 12:29 PM

That's good news Ebbie! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 May 23 - 04:34 PM

Donuel, to quote a phrase: There you go again...
From Wikipedia: "DeSantis was born on September 14, 1978, in Jacksonville, Florida, the son of Karen DeSantis (née Rogers) and Ronald Daniel DeSantis. His middle name, Dion, extols the singer Dion DiMucci.[3] His mother's family name, Rogers, was Ruggiero until her paternal grandfather changed it after entering the United States from Italy.[4][5][6]

DeSantis is Italian American; all of his great-grandparents were born in Southern Italy,[nb 1] and emigrated to the United States during the Italian diaspora.[1"

And, "Ron is a tad older"? He is two/2/TWO years older than his wife.

I don't like or trust DeSantis but facts is facts.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: gillymor
Date: 25 May 23 - 04:51 PM

He's probably been out turning over the cow patties again.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 25 May 23 - 07:26 PM

Make Samaritans great again. Good job Ebbie.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 May 23 - 08:47 PM

Thanks for the pat, Donuel, but what I'd like to know is where did YOU get your 'facts'?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 May 23 - 10:00 PM

A Trump toady from Texas, Ken Paxton, the under-indictment Attorney General since 2015 (a slow moving federal case), is recommended to be impeached. By his own party. Texas lawmakers recommend impeaching Attorney General Ken Paxton

Paxton has been under FBI investigation for years over accusations that he used his office to help a donor and was separately indicted on securities fraud charges in 2015, but has yet to stand trial.

Unlike in Congress, impeachment in Texas requires immediate removal from office until a trial is held in the Senate. That means Paxton faces ouster at the hands of GOP lawmakers just seven months after easily winning a third term over challengers — among them George P. Bush — who had urged voters to reject a compromised incumbent but discovered that many didn't know about Paxton's litany of alleged misdeeds or dismissed the accusations as political attacks. Republican Gov. Greg Abbott could appoint an interim replacement.

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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 May 23 - 05:48 AM

Worrying artice in The Economist

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 06:12 AM

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/ron-desantis-pronounce-name.html

Trump will not be the first to run for President from jail. Eugene Debbs did it.

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 06:30 AM

The story of his wife preferring DeSantis over D.Santis was on MSNBC Morning Joe along with their marriage ceremony at Disney.

The truth is so bizarre these days since Trump I seldom use satire anymore. The truth is now its own satire.

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 06:50 AM

CPAC Treasurer resigns over financial mismanagement as bad as the NRA.
Conservatism is now about hate, grievance, and criminal acts even in the religious right. Donations water their money tree, free for the taking. Grifting con man scams are business as usual No lie to take free money is too big.

The first time I mentioned the Oath Keepers was 5 years ago in a group of troubling militias. Today their leader Elmer Rhodes was sentenced to 18 years in Federal Prison.

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 07:30 AM

There is still room for sarcastic satire;
CLEARWATER, FL—Hoping that she had done enough to obtain one of the coveted feminine hygiene products, local Florida woman Jessica Calderon filled out a 25-page application Thursday in order to receive a tampon. The Florida legislature included the menstrual cycle as a form of abortion in the killing of an unfertilized egg via tampons.
Dr. Bubba Wilcox testified Thursday on the killing of unfertilized eggs and the legislature amended their 6 week abortion ban...

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: gillymor
Date: 26 May 23 - 08:26 AM

That was lame and crude.

My ideal scenario: trump eviscerates Duh Santis on a "debate" stage, ending his presidential aspirations and then checks into a Federal prison.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 10:11 AM

DuhSantis strikes me as a bullied wanna-be bully that would accept Trump's Vice Presidency. Moral decrepitude knows no bounds.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 May 23 - 10:39 AM

He posted the same dismal thing in the joke thread. The JOKE thread...

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From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 May 23 - 10:43 AM

here endeth another week of DT walking round free as a bird, laughing his ass off at those people who confine their behaviour to what is lawful.

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From: Helen
Date: 26 May 23 - 04:15 PM

Big Al Whittle, I agree:

"...people who confine their behaviour to what is lawful."

and I would add ethical, empathetic, and a bunch of other essential human qualities.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 07:23 PM

DT has the quality and vanity that only he has all the answers.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 08:14 PM

DeSantis is Diet Trump. Yuck

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From: Ebbie
Date: 26 May 23 - 10:10 PM

I dearly hope he is not tRumpdeLuxe

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 27 May 23 - 09:11 AM

The Complete GUIDE TO MAGA CULTURE WAR:

Pardon all convicts victimized by the weaponization of law
Defund FBI, DOJ, and replace the CONSTITUTION
REMOVE WOMEN'S RIGHTS TO HEALTHCARE
Destroy all woke books, media, and Democracy
Make MAGA history the only true history
Keep ; the following goals a secret
Take away all women's right to vote
Remove all women's right to serve
Make our President serve for life
Make minorities NOT MATTER
Make blacks slaves against
Remove the courts
Burn the jews

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 27 May 23 - 02:06 PM

"It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up against your enemies but a great deal more to stand up against your friends."

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 May 23 - 02:55 PM

Quote from Albus Dumbledore in, I think, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. Or whatever you Yanks changed the title too because you couldn't understand the word "Pilosopher".

Why don't you just attribute your quotes to who said them, Don?

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Doesn't everyone on the planet already know where that comes from? ---mudelf

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From: gillymor
Date: 27 May 23 - 03:08 PM

"Pilosopher"- lover of hemmeroids?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Helen
Date: 27 May 23 - 03:32 PM

Donuel, re your statement: Strange enough many Latin American men voted for the Donald

I thought it was very strange that African-Americans were supporting him as well, back in his 2016 campaign. I'm not sure whether they would still be supporting him now.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 May 23 - 05:54 PM

Doesn't everyone on the planet already know where that comes from? ---mudelf

No. There are are some grown-ups who don't read dismal children's books.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 07:09 AM

The quote was in quotes and is firmly in the public domain, but some missed the point anyway. Even Bible quotes are rarely sourced and footnoted in conversation. Hair-brained condemnation as constant as the wind is because the troll would be embarrassed to admit why they hate. The truth would be humiliating to the troll. So let's not speak of it. The aim is to educate, not humiliate.

One reason why Trump was successful in his duping is that most intelligent people have self-doubt and over time it develops into an imposter syndrome that leaves them open to the big lies of the Troll.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 07:36 AM

Overcome self-doubt and the path to truth is wide and long.
The feeling of being a fraud or an accidental swindler, as Einstien put it, will go away and free high-achieving people.
Maya Angelou and Tom Hanks both suffered from self doubt that they would be found out. Just having an imposter syndrome is an indication that you have achieved excellence. Thats when you can overcome self-doubt and be free. That freedom leaves you impervious to the envious manipulators.

The paradox is that unworthy people like Trump also are free of self doubt and cause harm.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 07:55 AM

Having some self-doubt keeps you humble, keeps you working and keeps you learning. I see Helen on the cusp of learning to fly free of unnecessary self-doubt. Stilly has been liberated for years and the trolls can only peck at people who actually have important ideas.