BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)

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From: gillymor
Date: 25 Mar 23 - 07:31 AM

He's stirring up the mob again-
Huffpost death and destruction . Someone needs to grow a pair and prosecute this rabid dog.

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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 23 - 09:35 AM

Got it - Thanks Doug and gillymore

The man is a menace to the stability of the USA and the world in general. I said a long time back, possibly on this thread, that he is treating the presidency like a game. Someone should explain to him that it is not the WWE and he is not 'fighting' Vince MacMahon!

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Mar 23 - 01:56 PM

The man is mentally ill. At the very least a sociopath.

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From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Mar 23 - 06:26 PM

And now Trump has got a pastor in Waco, Texas, of all places,
preaching that Trump is the Lord's Anointed
and that he is going to bring about the Fall of the Babylon Deep State.
THis from the New York Times.
It's getting too weird for words now.

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From: Helen
Date: 25 Mar 23 - 06:30 PM

With all of his blatant threats to democracy and the institutions and people in the U.S., I don't understand why he isn't being charged with treason.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Mar 23 - 10:07 PM

These things take time, apparently.

I guess he flew over the top of all of the chaos in Mississippi after a horrible tornado, to talk shit in Texas. I hope most people know which is the more important story.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 05:23 AM

I think that a very important story indeed is that Donald Trump is very likely to be your next president.

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 08:32 AM

At his Waco Texas rally he celebrated the Jan 6th insurrection on a big screen and claimed the jailed insurrectionists were being mistreated in abhorrent cruel and unusual prison conditions.

The prisoners are actually all issued tablets to post online and search the web. They have the independent option to sun bathe 5 hours a day.
The food is better than Arbys. Visitation rules include daily visitation. It is a typical Club Fed facility for white collar criminals.

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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 09:28 AM

I sincerely hope you are wrong, Steve. Surely the majority of the US population would not fall for the same con trick twice would they?

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From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 10:13 AM

> Surely the majority of the US population would not fall for the same
> con trick twice would they?

Why not? the English re-elected the same shower, touting the same lies, three times running; and they look worrying likely to repeat the offence next time as well. But that's a rant for another thread.

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 10:54 AM

While capitalism dismisses ethics routinely, most Americans are not outright criminals seeking the abandonment of the security of law enforcement.

FYI: Waco Texas was the site where Koresh was a cult leader with machine guns and wanted for child molestation. After a 51-day siege by ATF and FBI, his compound burned to the ground claiming all but 9 lives. A couple of years later to the day the Oklahoma bombing occurred.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 11:05 AM

The Waco date is significant in certain circles - sovereign citizen types who used to live in a secretive way now are out in the open. Jeff Guinn has a new book: Waco that looks back at the event. Guinn was a journalist for years at the local newspaper but now makes a good living as a deep research writer of nonfiction books. Google some of the interviews - he was on Fresh Air in the last few months talking about this.

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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 01:16 PM

True MaJoC but at least we are rid of liar in chief Johnson. For now at any rate!

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 04:46 PM

Monday gives the Grand Jury another opportunity to do the right thing. We hope we all know what that will be.

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 05:06 PM

Although both are narcissists, Citizen Kane was brought down by a sex scandal but not Trump.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 05:08 PM

A story just released from National Public Radio: It's not just Stormy Daniels. Here are ongoing criminal investigations Trump faces

The New York Times has a list as well.

I found a site called "Just Security" that catalogs his criminal and civil cases Litigation Tracker: Pending Criminal and Civil Cases Against Donald Trump. They started it in 2021 and keep updating it.

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 Mar 23 - 08:29 PM

WOW
The litigation tracker is great.

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From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 08:10 AM

Big Al you've asked this before, and I answered that fellow racists and bigots see Trump as their spokesperson. Number 2 Conspiracy groups are believers for anything and finally, half of Americans read at a 6th grade level.

Trump puts his hand on his heart and stands at attention to the Qanon theme song. I expect to eventually see his new version of the American flag which will look like a hybrid of the confederate battle flag and the former South African flag.

He would need another miracle like the November surprise) FBI Comey investigation of Hillary right before voting day, but bigger, since Trump has an amazing shrinking base.

Isreal is shut down today because of protests against Netanyahu trying to abolish the judiciary. Democracies are messy and slow to respond but they do finally respond.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 04:34 PM

This little ditty, from Calvin Trillin about the Dubya administration, shows us how far to the right the GOP has moved since then:

Our policies address the cares
Of heiresses and millionaires.
Our point of view reverberates
With folks who live behind high gates
And folks whose country clubs may lack
A single Jew, a single black.
We're backed by all the CEOs.
We waive the regs that bring them woes.
To comfort them is our intent.
Yes, though we always represent
The folks who sit in corporate boxes,
The gratifying paradox is ---
And this we love; it's just the neatest ---
The other party's called elitist.

If that was only what is wrong with them now.

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From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 05:13 PM

Another grade school mass shooter has killed kids and others.
The twist is that the shooter was a she.

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From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 05:19 PM

let us pray and praise first responders.
Tenn. gov speaks

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From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 05:27 PM

she had testicles and was pissed off by the new anti trans laws I suspect.

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From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 09:25 PM

The popular question is how many more. After Congress people lose their kids to mass shootings or Harvard and Yale have mass shootings some rich parents may lend a hand to save kids. I wonder if fentanyl or Tic Tok kill more kids than guns.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 11:50 AM

Tennessee officials were quick to release the body cam videos from police to show that they weren't like the Texas police. The shooter was apparently suicidal and had told someone else s/he was going to die that day.

More Grand Jury interviews this week; yesterday the former owner of the National Enquirer was interviewed. And in other hearings we learn that the former Chief of Staff and attorney have been ordered to testify, piercing the privilege protections they claimed. But it is so slow. The world seems to be heading to Hell in an Handbasket with all of the shit going on. Put Trump out of business and move forward to fix things.

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From: Donuel
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 04:39 PM

Helena Handbaskit will be subpeonaed. Mel Brooks has been pardoned after all. He just didn't open his mail for almost 2 years.
or was it Mo Brooks?

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From: Donuel
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 05:45 PM

Sometimes I wonder if Roger Stone forged his own Presidential pardon.

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From: Donuel
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 06:58 PM

(C) He's crazy, (A7) He's manic de(Dm)pressive (A7)and (Dm) angry
He's (G7) crazy, paranoid, schizoid and (C) rude (C#dim ) and (Dm) violent (G7)
They (C) gave him(A7) some kind of new medi(Dm)cation (A7) (Dm)
And (G7) lately I think He's murderous (C) too. (F) (C) (C7)

(F) He's so bat shit crazy(C) shady (C7)
(C#7) And (D7) lately I'm wondering what he will do (G7) In (Dm) jail (G7) sue?
Cause He's (C) crazy, psy(A7)chotic and lieing de(Dm)pendent, (A7) (Dm)

He's (F) angry ag(Em)gressive, com(Dm)pulsive, ob(A7)sessive
And He's (Dm) crazy from (G7) catching (C) the (G7)flu

(F) Worried? You bet your ass I get (C) worried (B) (C)(B)(C)(C#)
Just (D7) wondering, wondering just what I should (G7) do (Dm) (G7)
'Cause He's (C) crazy, psy(A7)chotic and despot de(Dm)pendant (A7) (Dm)
He's (F) laughin' and (Em) lyin', patho(Dm)logically (A7) fryin'
Cuz he's(Dm) crazy from (G7) Hong Kong (C) flu.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 09:34 PM

There's a thread for that, Don! Isn't there? Songs about Trump?

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From: Donuel
Date: 29 Mar 23 - 05:20 AM

A gelatinous Pense doesn't want to testify.

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From: Helen
Date: 29 Mar 23 - 06:01 AM

Yes, but Donuel, Mike Pence may be afraid for his life after the threats at the Capitol riot.

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From: Donuel
Date: 29 Mar 23 - 06:19 AM

Here is a version worth passing along if you know where.



C) He's crazy, (A7) He's manic de(Dm)pressive (A7)and (Dm) angry
He's (G7) crazy, paranoid, schizoid and (C) rude (C#dim ) and (Dm) violent (G7)
They (C) gave him(A7) some kind of new medi(Dm)cation (A7) (Dm)
And (G7) lately I think he's murderous (C) too. (F) (C) (C7)

(F) He's bat shit crazy(C) (C7)
(C#7) And (D7) lately I wonder what he's going to do (G7) In (Dm) jail (G7) sue?
Cause He's (C) crazy, psy(A7)chotic and lieing de(Dm)pendent, (A7) (Dm)

He's (F) angry ag(Em)gressive, com(Dm)pulsive, ob(A7)sessive
He's long haul (Dm) crazy from (G7) knowing (C) he's(G7) through

(F) Worried? You bet your ass I get (C) worried (B) (C)(B)(C)(C#)
Just (D7) wondering, wondering just what I should (G7) do (Dm) (G7)
'Cause He's (C) crazy, psy(A7)chotic and deeply de(Dm)pendant (A7) (Dm)
He's (F) laughin' and (Em) lyin', patho(Dm)logically (A7) fryin'
He so (Dm) crazy just like (G7) you know (C) who.

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From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 06:05 PM

Well Stilly, any news? :^/

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From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 06:08 PM

Take Me To The Pilot
Song by Elton John

Can you feel that's real, I'm on trial
And now I'm here in your prison
Like a stone in your shoe
I am charged with high treason
Through my syes my throne
Is now a danger zone
Take me to the center for control
Take me to the center of your soul
Take me to the center
Lead me through the chambers
Take me to the center
I am not a stranger
Take me to the center
Lead me through the chamber
Take me to the center
I am not a stranger
Na-na-na, na-na-na
Na-na-na, na-na-na-na-na
Na-na-na, na-na-na
Na-na-na, na-na-na-na-na
Well, I knowt I'm not old
as I'm told, I'm not a stupid virgin
I am smart not dumb.
What I'm told is never, never for certain
Through my eyes, its my throne
Its in the danger zone
Take me to the center for control
Take me to the center of your soul, yeah, yeah
Let me out of prison
Lead me through the chamber
Take me to the White House
I am not a stranger
Take me to the White House
Lead me through the gate house
Take me to the White House
I am not a stranger
Na-na-na, na-na-na
Na-na-na, na-na-na-na-na
Na-na-na, na-na-na
Na-na-na, na-na-na-na-na

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 06:37 PM

On MSNBC last night Lawrence O'Donnell was talking about the breaks - apparently the Manhattan Grand Jury was scheduled to take a few weeks off and in April is that time. They won't meet again until maybe the third week of the month?

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 06:50 PM

NEVER MIND! They did it!

Trump indicted by grand jury in Stormy Daniels hush money scheme

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: gillymor
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 07:06 PM

Let's hope this opens the prosecutorial floodgates.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 07:21 PM

With the eventual number of charges which will most probably follow with more indictments, it will be as stressful for Donald as being drawn and quartered.

God bless his McDonald-addled heart.

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From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 08:25 PM

Which Hunt will lock him up the longest?

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 05:10 AM

This will strengthen him. You need an awful lot more.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 06:23 AM

Thars money in them thar end dite mints.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 06:38 AM

The indictment is still sealed but The Governor of Florida said he would not obey extradition laws.
Republicans want to prosecute law itself, not Trump.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 01:04 PM

Someone needs to do research into all of the conservative "think tanks" that spawn so many of the really stupid ideas coming out of state legislatures and the US Congress (GOP side of things.) It just gets stupider and stupider out there, and the three yahoos at the top, the Trump appointees to the Supreme Court, make it all possible because people figure they won't overturn this stuff.

Meanwhile, Israel has riots because BeBe wants to take over the judiciary. Trump seems already to have done that. Now we need to riot to get the Supreme Court fixed. Add a couple of more justices or impeach Thomas and disqualify Kavanaugh.

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From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 06:44 PM

I would not interfere when someone is shooting themselves in the foot.

Will Trump return to reality TV in the Apprehendice or comedy like Arrested Developer.

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From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 07:02 PM

Heritage house is an oldie but billionaires prefer more direct input with their own grassroots lobbying groups. Remember Citizens United?

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 11:08 PM

Rachel Maddow tonight talked about how Spiro Agnew (Richard Nixon's corrupt vice-president) was persuaded to step down from office and agree not to run for office again in exchange for the charges against him being set aside or diminished so he didn't have a trial or do time. HINT HINT - they could offer something like that to Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Helen
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 12:33 AM

Yes, but Trumpty-Dumpty will say anything to anyone to get out of accusations, and then he'll turn around and do the opposite when it suits him.

It might work if there were strong enough legal sanctions to throw at him if he goes back on his promise.

I just watched a news item and there were literally only a few people protesting on his behalf outside Mar-a-Lago. A few thousand less than Trump would have hoped for.

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From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 02:04 PM

Right Helen, Trump calls the prosecutor and judge Filthy Mudbloods but soon we can call him number 623586.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Helen
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 02:57 PM

It might not be soon, Donuel. I think the current indictment is the thin edge of the wedge, just a thorn in his side. The really pointy legal issues for him will come after this one.

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From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 03:21 PM

While the wheels of justice grind slowly, I have seen recent expedited rulings by the court. A gradual strategy has some advantages.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Helen
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 03:37 PM

Something just popped into my head. Those scenes in movies where someone is in a room and suddenly, slowly, inevitably the walls start moving inwards with no escape route, threatening to crush the main character unless s/he can come up with a brilliant strategy to save her/his life.

The hero in Hollywood lives to fight another day, due to the amazing magic of film and scriptwriters. Can an ex-TV star pull off the same stunt in real life?