BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)

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From: Lighter
Date: 08 May 23 - 05:43 PM

It will take a unanimous verdict to find against Trump.

In other words, not even one of the jurors can be a dedicated, unacknowledged Trump supporter ready to believe he's the real victim.

Odds of that?   

Stay tuned.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 May 23 - 07:24 PM

Yup.

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From: Helen
Date: 09 May 23 - 11:22 PM

Yay!!

Donald Trump found liable for sexually abusing writer E Jean Carroll in civil trial

Recently, around the time of state or federal elections here in Oz a sticker has appeared on the local post box making fun of the conservative Liberal party. It looks like their usual logo but the word is spelled "Liarble" and not "Liberal".

It makes me laugh each time I see it, and now seeing that Trump has been found liable, makes me think he is also liarble. LOL

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 May 23 - 12:12 AM

The cherry on top of today's wonderful news was that the Justice Department has indicted George Santos (the lying GOP congressman from Long Island) and we'll learn what those charges are tomorrow when he appears in federal court. It doesn't mean he's out of Congress and the GOP needs his vote so they won't do a thing to expel him.

Trump's attorneys of course say they'll appeal the decision today, but this die has been cast. He is no longer "Teflon Don."

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From: Helen
Date: 10 May 23 - 12:44 AM

Given that Trump thought so little of the EJC case that he didn't bother to offer a defence, I would be very surprised if an appeal against the findings would bear any weight. He had his chance and he threw it away.

I imagine he might have been throwing crockery at the wall in his usual tiny-temper tantrum manner.

Bring on all those other cases against him!

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From: Ebbie
Date: 10 May 23 - 03:35 AM

Trumpers are lauding today's development as a victory for trump, saying that since he was not convicted of actual rape, the whole trial was a big loss for his accusers.

They don't mention the money he's going to have to shell out.

I keep reading that trump offered no defense in the trial, and it is true that he didn't appear in person. He did, however, present the deposition; he and his team must have figured that would do the trick.

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From: Donuel
Date: 10 May 23 - 06:54 AM

The Teflon Don has lost his nonstick coating and has been grabbed by his wallet again.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 May 23 - 07:14 AM

This will not finish him and will probably strengthen him. Either you get a lot more on him or we should be very afraid.

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From: Donuel
Date: 10 May 23 - 07:32 AM

Anything bad for Trump goes on his Enemies of the State List.
Currently, a jury by one's peers appears on that list.
Also on that list is anything that did not support his coup such as; the Constitution, the US military, the Law, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the Justice Dept., anything democratic, any critic, and finally Rosie O'Donnell.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Lighter
Date: 10 May 23 - 09:11 AM

I can't believe it. I was actually too cynical.

How can that be?

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 May 23 - 12:19 PM

There is a "Town Hall" on CNN tonight that Trump scheduled at the last minute. Hosted at a small conservative university in New England. The chatter is that he's already telling people he wasn't allowed to tell his side of the story in the trial concluded yesterday, never mind all of the extra time he was given to make an appearance. He just lies as it suits him, we've always known that.

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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 May 23 - 01:52 PM

How can any legal system allow him an appeal? He didn't bother turning up for the trial so surely he gave his chance up! If I was invited for a job interview, didn't turn up and then complained when I failed to get the job, I would be a laughing stock

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 May 23 - 02:02 PM

There is probably a high percentage of bluster and attempt at saving-face involved in those remarks about an appeal. It will cost him more to appeal than he would pay, but he isn't that bright when it comes to money, he just knows how to grift for it.

Fellow GOP Liar George Santos is now in custody (midday on May 10) awaiting his arraignment. Keeping Trump out and whittling down the GOP numbers in the House and Senate are goals number one and two for the upcoming election. We'll have to see who would replace Santos (if an election happens, both Democrats and Republicans have a shot at it.)

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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 May 23 - 02:32 PM

Thanks Stilly. That makes more sense

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From: Helen
Date: 10 May 23 - 04:26 PM

And the winners are ...... [drumroll] .... the lawyers!!!!

As Stilly said, it will cost him more to appeal than he would pay.

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From: Helen
Date: 10 May 23 - 04:54 PM

Donald Trump's most loyal supporters will stick by him after E Jean Carroll trial,

but experts say he should brace for impact

Notre Dame University professor of political science Christina Wolbrecht said the question of whether or not the verdict would change voters' minds was misguided.

"The more relevant question, I think, is whether this decision will be sufficient to scare away potential advisors and financial supporters from his campaign, or get the news media to cover him differently," Professor Wolbrecht said.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 May 23 - 09:35 PM

We watched part of that "town hall" - it's just wholesale Trump lies. Couldn't stand it after about 20 minutes, and it is going on for a full 2 hours. Unless everyone gets up and walks out.

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From: Ebbie
Date: 11 May 23 - 12:45 AM

Steve Shaw 10 May 23 - 07:14 AM
... Either you get a lot more on him or we should be very afraid."

Sadly, I think that both of those postulations are true: #1.I have little doubt but that there will be many more revelations and #2. Yes, we can legitimately be very afraid.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 May 23 - 07:52 PM

CNN gave Donald Trump a huge gift, and may have signed a death sentence to their business as far as being considered a "news agency." Two hours of unbridled lies when Trump held forth was an embarrassment to behold. I saw about 20 minutes before I couldn't stand it any more. From the WTF Just Happened Today newsletter I get on weekdays:

CNN reported that “it’s hard to see how America was served by the spectacle of lies that aired on CNN” during Trump’s primetime town hall interview. In his first media appearance since being found liable for sexual abuse and defamation, Trump spent roughly 70 minutes maintaining his lie that the 2020 election was “rigged,” refusing to pledge to accept the results of the 2024 election, calling the moderator a “nasty person,” claiming he had the right to take classified documents to Mar-a-Lago, and saying he would pardon a “large portion” of the Jan. 6 rioters. Although Kaitlan Collins attempted to fact-checked his inaccurate claims, the live audience of Republicans and undeclared voters regularly clapped and laughed on behalf of Trump and his false claims. (CNN / Associated Press / Politico / NPR / Wall Street Journal / Washington Post / New York Times / NBC News / CNBC)

I've added in all of the articles he linked to in the newsletter.

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From: Donuel
Date: 11 May 23 - 07:57 PM

I believe that the majority are good honest people,

If you think most people are evil you have bigger problems.

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From: Helen
Date: 11 May 23 - 09:12 PM

Also an article on the ABC (Oz) news site.

Trump lodges appeal against sexual abuse finding as CNN grapples with town hall fallout

"Donald Trump signals he will appeal against a jury's decision to find him liable for sexual abuse and defamation, a day after joking about the case during a controversial CNN broadcast."

I assume that Trump hoisted a few of his own legal petards during his rants.

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From: Ebbie
Date: 11 May 23 - 10:39 PM

I *was* going to watch it, but like Sage, after a few minutes I had to turn it off. The lies were too, too blatant, and the audience was awful.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 May 23 - 11:37 PM

After last night's performance E. Jean Carroll said she might sue him again.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 May 23 - 12:44 PM

The Washington Post sends out a subscriber newsletter and their note this morning:

Trump’s CNN town hall: A firehose of false claims

Former president Donald Trump appeared Wednesday at a CNN “town hall” with Republican and independent voters in New Hampshire. No surprise, there was a lot of material to fact check! We wrote a packed 3,000-word report on his many falsehoods.

We divided the report into subject areas, which included:

• The 2020 election
  
• The Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol
  
• His presidential policies
  
• The controversy over presidential papers found at his estate
  
• Various claims on immigration, crime and foreign policy
  

Please click the link to read our complete accounting.

(You may hit a paywall, depending on how many articles you've read this month if you aren't a subscriber.)

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From: Donuel
Date: 13 May 23 - 11:37 AM

CNN has nothing to lose by hosting the Trump and DeSantis showdown in Tulsa OK this weelenTHEY SHOULD TITLE IT 'DUELING ASSHOLES'

Dueling banjo music can be played over them loudly when they won't shut up.

PS Tulsa is also the city of the deadliest and most destructive attack on black people by whites.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 14 May 23 - 05:52 PM

I watched 'the tapes of Ted Bundy' on Netflix today.
As a result, it would be accurate for me to say Donald Trump is the Ted Bundy of politics.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 May 23 - 11:20 AM

Kemp in Georgia was the Secy of State when he ran for governor the first time, and he purged the voter rolls to favor himself. Taking a page from that book, DeSantis is changing state law so he can run for President while still gov of Florida. "Ron DeSantis is using the final weeks before he reportedly launches a presidential campaign to modify Florida law to allow him to run while serving as governor and reduce transparency over political spending and his travel." Link.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 May 23 - 11:22 AM

Those two are doing what Trump would have done were he an office holder when he first ran - they're cheating. And if Trump is elected, he'll try to cheat some more to keep himself in office.

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From: Donuel
Date: 15 May 23 - 10:47 PM

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/f-me-like-crazy-donald-trump-crony-rudy-giuliani-faces-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-using-same-law-

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From: Donuel
Date: 15 May 23 - 10:58 PM

It has also come to light that Rudy was selling pardons for 2 million dollars.

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From: Ebbie
Date: 16 May 23 - 12:13 PM

I read that it is believed - or at least, claimed- that Giuliani offered $2 million pardons but that there has been no indication that anyone took him up on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 16 May 23 - 01:29 PM

Even a failed Fentanyl dealer is still a criminal salesman.
The sexual abuse evidence by Rudy is far more shocking and detailed than in the Trump conviction.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 May 23 - 07:02 PM

They read through a lot of a charges against Giuliani last night on MSNBC. Power went to his head and his behavior has been abusive and perverse. And criminal.

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From: Donuel
Date: 17 May 23 - 05:52 AM

Sasha Baron Cohen has part of his film submitted as evidence against Rudy in court.
Well done. His trap of the NRA is also classic.

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From: gillymor
Date: 17 May 23 - 06:30 AM

Yeah, Cohen caught the old perv with his hand down his pants obviously expecting some manner of sexual gratification from the young actress but I can't find any indication that "Sasha Baron Cohen has part of his film submitted as evidence against Rudy in court."
Where did you find this, how about a link?

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From: Donuel
Date: 17 May 23 - 06:37 AM

It's in print and on cable news/
Poor Rudy, there's no fool like an old
caveman.

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From: gillymor
Date: 17 May 23 - 06:56 AM

Found it, Yahoo News, what a creep show.

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From: Donuel
Date: 17 May 23 - 06:56 AM

Under penalty of perjury, the evidence submitted to the court includes patterns of behavior, 23,000 emails, and audio recordings.
Then there is witness testimony and financial records.
Rudy and Santos have mistakenly followed the new Trump ethics. 'commit any crime and lie all the time'.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 May 23 - 02:02 PM

Sasha Baron Cohen had an actress in the room with Rudy and had to keep her safe and Rudy appeared ready to jump her (Lawrence O'Donnell played part of his interview with Cohen about that on The Last Word). O'Donnell said he can't play or read any more from that complaint against Rudy because of the network standards, it's too gross.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 May 23 - 06:33 PM

Harassment Suit Against Rudy Giuliani Full of Graphic Allegations. The planned sale of presidential pardons for $2m each (to be split by Don and Rudy) is mild compared to the sexual harassment stuff.
"A New York woman says the ex-mayor sexually harassed her while she was working for him—claims he previously denied."

This is a PDF of the complaint.

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From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 May 23 - 11:55 AM

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 May 23 - 12:02 PM

Here's the search I did for "published version of the complaint against Rudy Giuliani" - you can track down the results in there. The link above was to a government document, but I didn't save it so I'd have to hunt for it again myself to read it.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 May 23 - 12:06 PM

Try this one. The file is 650033_2023_Noelle_Dunphy_v_Rudolph_W_Giuliani_et_al_COMPLAINT_10

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From: Helen
Date: 19 May 23 - 01:00 PM

See Backwoodsman, that's what happens when you go searching for unspecified blobs! LOL

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From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 May 23 - 01:13 PM

”See Backwoodsman, that's what happens when you go searching for unspecified blobs! LOL”

LOL, Helen! :-)

When I read through the .pdf on SRS’s new link, I really wished I hadn’t bothered! What an appalling tale.

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From: Helen
Date: 19 May 23 - 02:05 PM

BWM, I have enough trouble sleeping already without reading the grisly details. I can already imagine the extent of the crimes, given the well-known nature of the perp.

I did see the Sacha Baron Cohen footage when it was first released. It didn't surprise me.

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From: Donuel
Date: 19 May 23 - 06:45 PM

This the Sasha and Ben discussion I saw;
https://www.google.com/search?q=ben+afflack+and+sasha+cohen+talk+about+rudy&rlz=1C1YTUH_enUS1037US1037&sxsrf=APwXEdd3D2o1nCS2XTt

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 20 May 23 - 06:37 AM

In the hunt for the great white fail, Donald is all fat and no chattel, and DeSantos is Scrooge McDuck.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 May 23 - 02:45 PM

A play upon words, Donuel, is meaningless when the words themselves are meaningless."All fat and no chattel"? Sheesh

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Helen
Date: 20 May 23 - 03:01 PM

Personal insults are not helpful, Ebbie.