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Stiff Tuning Keys

saulgoldie 19 Nov 22 - 04:07 PM
GUEST,Richard 20 Nov 22 - 11:53 AM
MaJoC the Filk 20 Nov 22 - 01:38 PM
GUEST,James Phillips 21 Nov 22 - 01:33 PM
gillymor 21 Nov 22 - 01:53 PM
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Subject: Stiff Tuning Keys
From: saulgoldie
Date: 19 Nov 22 - 04:07 PM

My old Yamaha 12-string has stiff tuning keys. The previous owner said that it had been in a garage for a while. That's probly why I got it for a song. (A song!)

Anyway, I *can* tune it. I mean, inasmuch as a 12-string can *ever* be really tuned. But the keys are very stiff. Is there anything I can do with the keys short of just getting a whole new set?

Or if a new set, which brand should I go with? Grover? Shaller? Another brand?

Thanks for any help.

Saul


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Subject: RE: Stiff Tuning Keys
From: GUEST,Richard
Date: 20 Nov 22 - 11:53 AM

I| had a problem with stiff tuners on my mandolin, on the G strings. I applied tiny drops of oil with the tip of a matchstick to the cogs - just three or four drops - and then wound them round and round (and round) to spread the oil around. I have been warned not to get oil anywhere near the wood. They are Schaller machines. This was about 20 years ago, and they've been no trouble ever since. Otherwise, I can recommend Schallers as I have 3 guitars, including a 12 string, with them on. Other brands are reputedly just as good, but I would avoid cheaper ones.
Richard


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Subject: RE: Stiff Tuning Keys
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 20 Nov 22 - 01:38 PM

> I applied tiny drops of oil with the tip of a matchstick to the cogs

Family memory: My grandfather is said to have used the tip of a feather when applying oil to clock mechanisms.


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Subject: RE: Stiff Tuning Keys
From: GUEST,James Phillips
Date: 21 Nov 22 - 01:33 PM

I'd definitely try a drop of oil before looking into replacing them. If it was a nylon string I'd also recommend rubbing plain soap on the string rollers to give them a bit of lubrication against the wood (doesn't apply to you but I thought I'd mention it in case anyone's having trouble with their nylon string tuners).

It is nice to put a fresh set on an old guitar though, and you don't need to spend that much. Schallers are good.


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Subject: RE: Stiff Tuning Keys
From: gillymor
Date: 21 Nov 22 - 01:53 PM

Yep, I'll put a drop of 3 in 1 oil on open back tuners and twist them around a bit. If they're sealed tuners and you go to replace them look at mini- tuners or get a dedicated 12 string set so you don't wind up with a head -heavy instrument. Of course, you'll want to make sure they fit the existing bore,


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