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Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 07 Jan 25 - 11:34 AM Those basic things our ancient ancestors developed that we still use - cooked food, clothing, shelter, art, and writing. All interesting subjects that archaeologists look for in their digs. Drop spindles for making thread and yarn are incredibly simple technology that may not be recognizable unless you're looking for them in a dig. Illustrated here - beads or ballast for a spindle? These Mysterious 12,000-Year-Old Pebbles May Be Early Evidence of Wheel-Like Tools, Archaeologists Say from Smithsonian late last year. When I was an undergraduate back in the 1970s I house-sat for a friend who had a keeshond dog and a visiting friend told me she used that kind of dog hair in making wool, so for the couple of years I was there I took her bags of hair after brushing the dog. There was probably enough hair off that pooch to knit another dog. :) |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Donuel Date: 07 Jan 25 - 11:20 AM My mom was an expert at the spinning wheel. I never got more than a foot or two of perfect yarn. It's really hard to do. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 06 Jan 25 - 07:27 PM World's oldest cloth - 2010 article Exploring the Oldest Fabrics in Existence Scientists find evidence of humans making clothes 120,000 years ago Textiles - Decay and preservation in Seventeenth-to Nineteenth- Century Burials in Finland |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Helen Date: 06 Jan 25 - 06:06 PM This is a bit of a stretch for archaeology but, it's an interesting historical concept with links to the modern technological world. When I was a librarian I saw a book in the collection, Card Weaving by Candace Crockett. I ordered a copy for myself and played around with various projects over a number of years. I bought two other books as well: Introducing Tablet Weaving, by Eileen Bird, and The Techniques of Tablet Weaving by Peter Collingwood. A history of card weaving There is a lot of archaeological history behind card or tablet weaving dating back at least as far as Ancient Egypt or the Bronze Age. You can do an internet search for images of some of the woven patterns, and some patterns are available to download. Even more interesting is the link to a key idea in computing technology, i.e. punch cards which can be linked also to Joseph Marie Jacquard's brilliant concept of punched weaving cards on mechanical and then electrified looms in France. The punch card concept, based on binary 1's and 0's was used in the development of the Enigma machine. I also learned about punch cards in my librarian course because libraries previously used them too. A couple of years ago I saw a documentary on the development of computer technology which probably owes a lot to the punch card system. Coincidentally, after emailing some information to my family about it, that very night another documentary showed the Jacquard weaving innovation and referred to the link to computer technology. If you are wondering why I sent the info to my family, my adult nephew who has two school-age sons, was sitting at the Christmas lunch table trying to get one of those bracelet making gadgets to work, with little coloured rubber bands. It looked a bit fiddly and I was reminded of the card weaving and how easy it was, after understanding the concept and after I created the cards. I told the family all about card weaving and offered to lend the books and cards to my nephew so that he could try it out. He is a computer engineer by trade, so it seemed like a good fit to me. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 06 Jan 25 - 05:06 PM I had 4 of her books & they went last year when I downsized my Historic Costume collection. Some of our historic & colonial dancers make & wear perfectly authentic costumes & 4 of them went up & down my stairs removing my books! One looked at the Ladies of Fashion (17 dolls, 1066-1911) & said she'd take them & her daughter collects bears. Dolls & bears are still here but they have a home! Other collections of course are still here ... |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 06 Jan 25 - 12:03 PM I just ran that book title/author past my daughter who makes historic garments for SCA and activities at the art museum where she is the librarian. Her texted answer is "Hah yes, I have a couple of her books at home and all of them at work." When she was learning how to make some of the garments they used for anime and other events she would put some pretty obscure and often quite expensive books on her Amazon or other wish list. I may have purchased one for her and don't remember it. :) |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 06 Jan 25 - 08:39 AM One of my other interests is the history of costume, & in the 60s/70s an amazing researcher took patterns from surviving garments, including those European Royalty & nobility were buried in, see volume 3 - Janet Arnold Patterns of Fashion series Parts of the tomb clothing had rotted over the centuries. here's one of the garments she measured - scroll down to "Die gruftigsten Klamotten" (Dorothea Sabina von Nuremberg) Others researchers also did so, but I didn't have their books. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 06 Jan 25 - 12:15 AM The Notre-Dame Cathedral cleans up nicely, doesn't it? Comparing photos of the cathedral before with all of the black smoke stains till now is remarkable. That lead sarcophagus has been featured on a couple of programs I've seen recently. All of the stuff going on in nooks and crannies and under the floors is equally interesting. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 05 Jan 25 - 08:47 PM A look at the newly-restored Notre-Dame Cathedral mentioned the sarcophagus so I went looking for more info Archaeologists unearth Sarcophagus beneath Notre Dame Cathedral |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Dec 24 - 11:51 AM You should have pulled up a couple of links. Canopus looks interesting. An article from MIT. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Donuel Date: 24 Dec 24 - 03:14 PM What I call the Los Vegas of ancient EGYPT was Canopus. It was a diverse wild Greek, Roman, and Egyptian sacred city. Over time the land around Canopus was weakened by a combination of earthquakes, tsunamis and rising sea levels. The eastern suburbs succumbed to liquefaction of the soil. The western suburbs eventually became the present day Egyptian coastal city of Abu Qir. The city survived through the reign of Cleopatra but its demise was sudden enough to leave nearly all the artifacts intact despite the disruption of being underwater. It is a wet Pompeii in some ways. It was a fashionable place of hedonism and healing. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 14 Dec 24 - 06:19 PM I also posted this on the "D'ye Ken John Peel" thread as one of the coffins held the remains of John Woodcock Graves, author of the song. Archaeologists complete largest mass exhumation in Australian history from old cemetery under The Hutchins School |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Thompson Date: 08 Nov 24 - 04:42 PM Pompeii's diversity shown in DNA results. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 02 Nov 24 - 05:18 AM Sacred Tunic of Alexander the Great Found in an Ancient Macedonian Tomb? ... The team of archaeologists uncovered a cotton textile dyed in purple that aligns with ancient accounts of the sarapis, a ceremonial garment worn by Persian kings, which Alexander adopted after his victory over Darius III ... New Clues Finally Unravel Mysteries Surrounding Christopher Columbus’ Origins and Remains Maya Storm God Huracán Taught That When We Damage Nature, We Damage Ourselves Cannibalized Sailor From Doomed Arctic Expedition Identified Through a DNA ... While the wrecks were only recently found, the remains of crew members were discovered much earlier on the southwest coast of King William Island in Nunavut. Search teams came across boats tied to large sleds, seemingly in preparation for a journey toward the Back River ... Fitzjames is the second crew member to be positively identified. The first was John Gregory, an engineer on the Erebus, whose skull yielded a DNA match in 2021 ... |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Donuel Date: 24 Oct 24 - 06:01 AM Here is the best discussion of the current state of archeology I have heard in a long time. Enjoy in two or three sittings, it is very inclusive. Ed Barnhardt with Lex Fridman source https://youtu.be/AzzE7GOvYz8 While Egypt has 140 pyramids the Americas have thousands. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Bill D Date: 18 Oct 24 - 08:42 AM Not a new discovery, but fascinating link to Neolithic sites in Scotland Skara Brae |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 16 Oct 24 - 10:19 AM thanks for posting the story |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Bill D Date: 16 Oct 24 - 08:49 AM Archaeologists discover 12 skeletons at a buried tomb in Petra, Jordan |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Sep 24 - 12:57 PM I've started reading a book called So Much Stuff by Chip Colwell, and it begins with an analysis of creatures around the world using tools, either opportunistic or crafted, and then into the wide range of humanoid ancestors over the last seven million years and their stone cutting tools. He has references and notes and citations, and from where I am in chapter one I can project that he will soon be talking about modern era archaeology and our looking back at what our ancestors chose to carry around and keep. (I think I bought this via Bookfinder.com, and though Amazon owns Bookfinder, you can still find new and used books much cheaper there because they have charity shop listings and such.) |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 23 Sep 24 - 07:58 AM right on! checking out a site I bookmarked sometime back & forgot about - it's too interesting to ignore 17th c. gallows yields bone pits, revenant and suicide burials Dig uncovers 200-year-old message in a bottle from archaeologist it was written in 1825. Edfu temple restoration reveals original inscriptions, colors, gold Brain and skin remains found in Bronze Age burials |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Thompson Date: 18 Sep 24 - 07:18 AM All we know is they were able to speak Really, someone should tell the Neanderthal people who model for those photos to comb their hair! |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 18 Sep 24 - 05:57 AM thanks for the links How Reliable are Computer Reconstructions of Ancient Faces? Cícero Moraes: Insights into the Fascinating World of Forensic Facial Reconstruction The Origins and Development of Alphabets in Ancient Cultures |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Bill D Date: 17 Sep 24 - 01:17 PM All we know is they were able to speak |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Thompson Date: 17 Sep 24 - 06:31 AM Meant to say, I wonder what kind of songs the Neanderthal had - were they beautiful musicians? |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Thompson Date: 17 Sep 24 - 06:29 AM They may have found where some of our earliest ancestors - Neanderthal and Homo Sapiens - got together: the range of mountains that runs along Iran, Iraq and Turkey. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 06 Aug 24 - 06:10 PM Smallest adult human arm bone fossil so far discovered points to origins of 'hobbit' In short: The remains of the smallest adult arm bone in the fossil record and two teeth, found on the Indonesian island of Flores, were dated to be 700,000 years old. According to a new study, the discovery sheds light on how the tiny, now-extinct human Homo floresiensis, dubbed the "hobbit", evolved. What's next? Archaeologists hope to find further fossils to explain why this ancient hobbit individual was so small. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 26 Jul 24 - 08:52 AM wow!!! It's one thing to kneel on solid earth to retrieve &/or put together ancient stuff on land, but to do so underwater is another matter! |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jul 24 - 09:56 PM Sandra, I did a Google search for other version of the image and found this. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 25 Jul 24 - 07:14 PM I can't read the article cos I use an ad blocker - & even if I knew how to turn it off I certainly wouldn't, but an image search on "discovery of ancient mosaic in sea off Italy" showed me lots of pics. Some were not about this site, but also interesting - Rome’s hidden mosaics which also has some interesting links. sandra (contemplating another rabbit hole, maybe a warren!) |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jul 24 - 04:54 PM Isn't that gorgeous! Thanks, Bill! |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Bill D Date: 25 Jul 24 - 04:45 PM https://www.cbsnews.com/news/italy-archaeologists-discover-underwater-ancient-mo World Archaeologists make stunning underwater discovery of ancient mosaic in sea off Italy |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 04 Jul 24 - 10:48 AM I was reading about it - wow! |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Bill D Date: 04 Jul 24 - 09:58 AM Oldest known cave painting |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 28 Jun 24 - 06:26 PM I do like pics of sunrises/sunsets! I've taken lots of sunsets, fewer sunrises cos I'm not an early riser |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Jun 24 - 09:07 AM There is an older article about Berenike (the first photo is missing - I went with Internet Archive to see it - it's not a photo I would have put on the head of an article). Photos further down give you a look at a few of the trenches they've dug as they work. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jun 24 - 07:03 PM A Buried Ancient Egyptian Port Reveals the Hidden Connections Between Distant Civilizations At the site of Berenike, in the desert sands along the Red Sea, archaeologists are uncovering wondrous new finds that challenge old ideas about the makings of the modern world On Google Earth it shows up as Berenice Troglodytica. Now 72, Sidebotham knew he wanted to be an archaeologist from the age of 14. When his father, who was in the U.S. Army, was posted in Turkey, the family moved to Ankara, and the teenager spent his free time photographing ruins and collecting Roman coins. After training in Cairo, Athens and the United States, he excavated sites in Italy, Greece, Libya, Tunisia and elsewhere before working on the Red Sea coast for the first time in 1980. “I just fell in love with this place,” he says. “I love the desert, the Bedouin, the sites, everything about it.” He became friendly with the local tribespeople, who showed him ruins that archaeologists didn’t know existed. “They’ll take you to places—the last Westerner was some Roman guy,” he jokes. If you find the area on Google Earth, then scroll a bit south of the named location - there is a harbor near the modern site, than kind filled in or shallow, but clearly two older harbor sites south of it. Between the two you'll notice a tiny W for the Wikipedia page you can click on for that archeological site. I can't seem grab that link from Google Earth. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 13 Jun 24 - 06:17 AM Slain Woman Warrior Amongst a Large Burial of Medieval Knights in Guadalajara Face of Killed Pharaoh ‘Seqenenre the Brave’ Revealed Children’s Graffiti Reveals Witnessing of Gladiatorial Violence in Pompeii Greek Marines Prove Mycenaean Suit of Armor Was Fit for Battle enough! I'll let you read the other articles ... |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 May 24 - 09:57 PM A different kind of ancient history: 50,000-Year-Old Neanderthal Bones Have Remains of Human Viruses, Scientists Find The preliminary analysis is a first step in testing the theory that infectious diseases played a role in Neanderthals’ extinction Scientists have detected remnants of three types of viruses in 50,000-year-old Neanderthal bones. The findings, researchers say, are a first step in testing the theory that viral infections could have played a role in the extinction of Neanderthals. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 May 24 - 04:44 PM Ancient Chesapeake site challenges timeline of humans in the Americas An island eroding into the bay offers tantalizing clues about when and how humans first made their way into North America. People should be able to read this, I used one of my gift articles for the link. Here's a bit of it: Lowery’s site and others like it could revise the story again, pushing back the timeline earlier than most experts thought possible. In total, Lowery and a motley crew of collaborators have discovered 286 artifacts from the site on the island’s southwestern edge. The oldest, they reported, was embedded with charcoal dated to more than 22,000 years ago, a time when much of the continent would have been covered in ice sheets. If you're interesting this links to his ms. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 15 May 24 - 04:17 AM Famed 5,300-Year-Old Alps Iceman Was a Balding Middle-Aged Man With Dark Skin and Eyes |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 15 May 24 - 03:38 AM an unanswerable question, Helen A Regal Hue: The Discovery of Tyrian Purple in Roman Carlisle In an extraordinary archaeological find at Carlisle, UK, researchers have unearthed what appears to be Tyrian Purple, a rare and historically significant pigment once reserved for the highest echelons of Roman society. The discovery was made within the drainage system of a 3rd century Roman bathhouse at the Carlisle Cricket Club grounds, part of an extensive excavation dubbed the "Uncovering Roman Carlisle" project. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Helen Date: 03 May 24 - 07:39 PM Two articles about facial reconstruction based on ancient skulls of two women: Archaeologists reveal reconstructed face of 75,000yo Neanderthal woman "The Neanderthal woman's skull was discovered in 2018 in a cave in the Zagros Mountains of northern Iraq." This Australian school owns a 2,000-year-old human head. Here's what she once looked like "By Nick Baker and Zoe Ferguson for Stuff the British Stole "A NSW school has mummified human remains in its library. After years of mystery, a mix of science and art has shed more light on who this person was." [My question is: why does a school have the 2000 year old human head in their collection??] |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 29 Apr 24 - 07:23 PM Keen explorer discovers many of Perth's shipwrecks aren't where the maps say they are Australia's earliest European contacts happened on the West Australian coastline, some ships were wrecked, & over the years more were wrecked! Shipwrecks don't really move tho debris can, & with the latest technology sites are getting more precise locations. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 26 Apr 24 - 10:58 PM Plato’s Final Resting Place in Athens Revealed! The revolutionary scanning and study of the Herculaneum papyri has revealed remarkable new details about the philosopher Plato, including the precise location of his burial. This significant archaeological achievement comes from a project deciphering ancient, carbonized papyri damaged by the Vesuvius eruption in 79 AD. According to a press release by, Consiglio Nazionale delle Ricerche, the "Greek Schools" project, led by Graziano Ranocchia from the University of Pisa, has made extraordinary progress in restoring and interpreting the section of papyrus known as, History of the Academy by Philodemus of Gadara ... read on! |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 Apr 24 - 10:26 AM I heard something about the floor in that room - it's all white with the black walls. I don't remember if they said it a white mosaic or is it a form of concrete or laid stone? “You’re walking into a room with an all-white floor, all-black walls. I mean, that’s something that would be impressive today and it definitely was back then,” she said. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Bill D Date: 11 Apr 24 - 02:50 PM https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/roman-paintings-uncovered-pompeii-2000-years-rcna147350 |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 16 Mar 24 - 03:54 AM Captain Matthew Flinders Archaeologists working on the HS2 project in Euston have discovered the remains of Captain Matthew Flinders. The Royal Navy explorer led the first circumnavigation of Australia and is credited with giving the country its name. HS2 archaeologists were able to identify Captain Matthew Flinders’s remains by the lead depositum plate (breast plate) placed on top of his coffin. The discovery of his burial site among 40,000 other human remains, in Euston’s St James’s burial ground, so early on in the archaeological dig has thrilled archaeologists ... His final resting place will be in at the Church of St Mary and the Holy Rood in Donington, near Spalding, where he was baptised, and where many members of his family are buried. There is currently no set date for when his body will be reburied at the church. However, the diocese of Lincoln has given planning consent to the reburial and, now HS2 have announced the news, the Parochial Church Council is expecting to work speedily to submit the details of a suitable memorial. A specialist team from HS2 will transfer the remains to the Diocese of Lincoln for safekeeping until further burial arrangements can be made. Details of which will be announced at a later stage by the diocese. (article dated 5th October 2023) An article behind a paywall in today's Saturday Sydney Morning Herald https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/after-250-years-matthew-flinders-goes-on-his-epic-final-journey-20240314-p5fcf8.html says the funeral is going to be very soon |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Donuel Date: 10 Mar 24 - 09:43 PM I have been looking at the Mayan language and see how the mind set of the Mayan is very different than ours. Our Western world is dualistic while the Mayans were not. For example, the Mayans saw no difference between natural and cultural. Special words signified 'neither this or that' and represented something in between like the ocean between lands. btw the way the word for water was ha aha aha. I thought it sounded funny and flowing. The point is that the mind set and thoughts of the ancients can be as curious and phenomenal as what they left behind in architecture, art, costumes, weapons and kitchens. Sandra try researching 'Sage Journals' about archaeology for some different perspectives. |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 08 Mar 24 - 11:42 PM but wait, there's more! Magnet Fisher Drags 1,200-Year-Old Viking Sword from English River & a few more articles on Viking-era discoveries below it, like this one |
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 08 Mar 24 - 09:22 PM World’s Oldest Fermented Bread, Dated to 6,600 BC, Found at Çatalhöyük |
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