Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jan 24 - 07:50 AM Sorry I didn't do a link but it's an immediate google! |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 09 Jan 24 - 07:26 AM thanks for your report, Steve, this is how I travel. I never did the big O/S trip when I was young, I bought my flat instead & travelled with books, & later the www. I see the world thru other people's eyes. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jan 24 - 06:52 AM The only hill figure I've seen close up is the Long Man of Wilmington in Sussex. There's no reference to it in any literature before 1710. It may have been carved out of the grass around that time by an enterprising monk. It's been seriously messed about with down the years (it may never have been originally in chalk, its feet have been altered, headgear removed, its two staves shortened and changed, a massive penis drawn on it, a face mask added, etc.). It's now marked out by white-painted blocks. It's still mightily impressive, and, to see it in correct human proportion, you have to view it from the bottom of the hill. Clever! |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jan 24 - 06:35 AM Calling Leonardo "Da Vinci" is like calling me "Of Bude" instead of Steve (I've been called worse). Vinci is merely the town in Tuscany where he came from. In context, "Leonardo" is just fine, in other words as long as you're talking about the great Italian polymath, not "Titanic." I hadn't heard the story of Copernicus's grave. What a great piece of science. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Donuel Date: 08 Jan 24 - 07:44 PM Copernicus deduced the sun was at the center of our solar system after Leonardo DaVinci surmised the same thing. Da Vinci's genius was tempered by procrastination. He never took the time to publish his findings. From the evidence of the notebooks that survive, if even a fraction of Da Vinci's discoveries or insights had made it into the public domain when he was alive, science could have been advanced by an era (i.e., imagine if we had next century's technology today). It was he who first surmised that "The earth is not in the centre of the Sun's orbit nor at the centre of the universe." |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 06 Jan 24 - 04:15 PM The strange story of the grave of Copernicus |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 05 Jan 24 - 07:12 PM sigh, so many things to do, so many rabbit holes to jump into ... Why Did Ancient Scots Prepare ‘Frankenstein’ Mummies? |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 05 Jan 24 - 06:53 PM oops an incomplete link - here 'tis Artifacts Recovered From Antakya’s Earthquake Rubble - Feb 2023 earthquake The Elusive Quest: The Search for Antony and Cleopatra's Lost Tomb |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Rain Dog Date: 03 Jan 24 - 05:21 AM It is the same two experts. Both links are based on the same source. I like this quote from Sandra's link: "It remains to be seen how widely accepted this new theory about the origin and meaning of the Cerne Abbas giant will be. Those who've invested time and energy pursuing other explanations may not be ready to give up just yet. This isn’t the end of attempts to understand the meaning of the Cerne Abbas giant, since conclusive proof that the giant is actually Hercules is lacking, as Drs. Morcom and Gittos concede." |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 03 Jan 24 - 03:05 AM Meanwhile, another set of experts have also been pondering ...Cerne Abbas Chalk Figure Now Identified As the Greek Hero Hercules |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Rain Dog Date: 01 Jan 24 - 11:15 AM From The Guardian Another cock-and-balls theory "Cerne Abbas giant is Hercules and was army meeting point, say historians Dorset hillside chalk figure was originally a muster station for West Saxon armies fending off Vikings, experts suggest." |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 28 Dec 23 - 04:09 PM thanks, Bill, I went looking for more info & found a few articles & a new rabbit hole to travel into! When It Rains It Pours - Ancient Egyptian law It didn’t rain frequently in ancient Egypt, but when it did, says Sapienza University of Rome archaeologist Aneta Skalec, it could come down so violently that it led to legal quarrels between neighbors. Skalec examined a papyrus known as the Demotic Legal Code of Hermopolis West, which was recorded in the time of the pharaoh Ptolemy II Philadelphus (reigned 285–246 B.C.), although its origins are likely centuries earlier. The document contains the most extensive known collection of Egyptian laws, many of them concerning leasing of property and rules of inheritance. “Among the various regulations, we find those concerning neighborly disputes,” Skalec says. “I was surprised when I came across the regulations relating to rain” I borrow Archaeology from the library & have now bookmarked it's home page. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Bill D Date: 28 Dec 23 - 01:34 PM Cache up to 7000 years old from British Colombia |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 27 Dec 23 - 04:37 PM Ancient Origins' Most Extraordinary Archaeological Treasures of 2023 |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via book report) pt 2 From: Donuel Date: 13 Dec 23 - 07:40 AM 'The Dawn of Everything' fundamentally transforms our understanding of the human past and offers a path toward imagining new forms of freedom, new ways of organizing society. This is a monumental book of formidable intellectual range, animated by curiosity, moral vision, and a faith in the power of individuals. Drawing on pathbreaking research in archaeology and anthropology, the authors show how history becomes a far more interesting place once we learn to throw off our conceptual shackles and perceive what’s really there. If humans did not spend 95 percent of their evolutionary past in tiny bands of hunter-gatherers, what were they doing all that time? If agriculture, and cities, did not mean a plunge into hierarchy and domination, then what kinds of social and economic organization did they lead to? The answers are often unexpected, and suggest that the course of human history may be less set in stone, and more full of playful, hopeful possibilities, than we tend to assume. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 10 Dec 23 - 02:28 AM On Sunday mornings ABC (Aus. Broadcasting Commission) Radio National has been playing Stuff the British Stole a podcast (& TV series). This morning it was the episode about the Elgin/Parthenon Marbles Throughout its reign, the British Empire stole a lot of stuff. Today the Empire's loot sits in museums, galleries, private collections and burial sites with polite plaques. But its history is often messier than the plaques suggest. In each episode of this global smash hit podcast, Walkley award-winning journalist, author and genetic potluck, Marc Fennell, takes you on the wild, evocative, sometimes funny, often tragic adventure of how these stolen treasures got to where they live today. These objects will ultimately help us see the modern world — and ourselves — in a different light. This is a co-production between the ABC and CBC Podcasts. “The antidote to A History of the World in 100 Objects. Marc Fennell, fab Aussie podcaster of It Burns and Nut Jobs, investigates a single cultural artefact in each episode of his new podcast, thus exposing what he calls the “not-so-polite history” of the British empire. The latest show uses pekinese dogs to take us to 1860 and the British-Chinese opium wars; previous episodes explain the British theft of Benin’s bronzes, and how Tipu’s Tiger ended up in the V&A. Fennell is immensely entertaining, his podcasts are always gripping and this is an excellent series that uses history, colonialism and art to examine where we are today. Recommended.” — Miranda Sawyer, The Guardian |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 07 Dec 23 - 04:49 PM Thompson, thanks for the link - more pics here latest articles from 'Ancient Origins' for those who want (need) more archaeology! |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Donuel Date: 07 Dec 23 - 07:58 AM Between nystagmus and teeth filing she certainly could be dramatic. There could be other explanations for the 600 year younger antlers. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Thompson Date: 07 Dec 23 - 06:29 AM A longer piece about the German shaman and her young friend. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Donuel Date: 06 Dec 23 - 05:03 PM An outstanding Archaeologist I agree with. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 02 Dec 23 - 05:17 PM DNA Study Sheds New Light On The Mysterious 9,000-Year-Old Shaman Burial In Bad Dürrenberg (Central Germany) Jan Bartek - AncientPages.com - The 9,000-year-old shaman burial in Bad Dürrenberg, Germany, is one of Central Europe's most spectacular discoveries. Here's an earlier report about the same individual. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 02 Dec 23 - 03:51 PM & of course, this link was created using it!! sandra (Simple Linkifier's No. 1 fan) Palorchestes was a blind, sharp-toothed creature with a trunk that lived for millions of years in Australia Central Australia's fossil bed at Alcoota holds many mysteries including the story of the extremely rare Palorchestes. Palorchestes was a strange creature that lived for millions of years in pockets across Australia, but has no living relatives. Adam Yates, senior curator of earth sciences for the Northern Territory Museum and Art Gallery, said it was one of the weirdest creatures found at the fossil bed. "It is a distant relative of wombats but it is very un-wombat-like in many respects and it has a number of really unusual anatomical features," Dr Yates ... |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: DaveRo Date: 23 Oct 23 - 08:11 AM The Mudcat link maker has a 128 character limit on a URL. If you paste a longer one it gets truncated. My Simple Linkier has no such limit. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Thompson Date: 10 Nov 23 - 01:11 AM Danish archaeologists have discovered the importance of a queen long relegated to wifehood: Thyra. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Thompson Date: 22 Oct 23 - 06:40 AM And what looks to me like an attack by slavers in Scandinavia during the collapse of the Roman Empire. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Thompson Date: 25 Oct 23 - 07:02 AM Sandra in Sydney, here's the link https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/history-and-civilisation/2021/10/can-archaeologists-solve-swedens-1500-year-old-murder-mystery and if that doesn't work, search for the headline or subhead: Can archaeologists solve Sweden's 1,500-year-old murder mystery? The remains of 26 massacred men were uncovered at the Iron Age site of Sandby Borg, where a grim tale of societal collapse is revealing itself. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 01 Nov 23 - 04:30 PM thanks, Maggie. another article form my favourite site - Declassified Cold War Spy Satellite Images Reveal Roman Forts In Syria and Iraq Archaeologists Unearth a Medieval Skeleton with a Prosthetic Hand ...Historically, while this find is exceptional, it's not unique. There are approximately 50 known prosthetic devices from the late Middle Ages and early modern period in Central Europe. They range from rudimentary, non-moving models to intricate devices with mechanical components. The famed knight, Götz von Berlichingen, is a notable figure from this era. He wore an "Iron Hand" prosthetic after losing his right hand during the siege of Landshut in 1530. Unlike the Freising discovery, von Berlichingen's prosthetic was a marvel of engineering for its time, featuring movable parts and a complex design. ... Origin of Ancient Mummified Baboons in Egypt Found and Points to a Location for Punt This 15th Century French Painting Features A Precisely Drawn Prehistoric Tool ... he study concludes, that after artistic license is accounted for, it would appear that Fouquet painted an actual handaxe, that perhaps he had seen with his own eyes. Kangas wrote in the study that Fouquet spent a lot of time painting the stone, and this means he had “probably seen one that struck his attention and imagination". ... before I end up linking lots more articles, here's the source page |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 23 Oct 23 - 04:41 PM & I only use your linkifier, Dave!! testimonial from very satisfied customer |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 22 Oct 23 - 10:24 AM link to 'attack by slavers' doesn't work as the final letter of the URL is missing A google search on "Can archaeologists solve Sweden's 150 year old mystery" led to the article, but alas, it's only for subscribers |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 05 Nov 23 - 10:52 PM From Helen's most recently linked article: The coins, dating from the first half of the fourth century AD, were found in seagrass not far from the town of Arzachena. That ship will be a story, if they find it! |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Nov 23 - 03:29 PM I fixed the first link to NatGeo, but as noted, the article is for subscribers only. Here's one everyone should be able to read: Declassified Cold War Satellite Photos Reveal Hundreds of Roman-Era Forts Once thought to be defensive military bases, the forts may have supported peaceful trade and travel The program ran from 1960 to 1972, Cold War spy satellites taking a look at the landscape and recording patterns on the ground that are archaeologically important sites. Using declassified photos from Cold War-era spy satellites, researchers have identified hundreds of previously undiscovered ancient Roman forts in Iraq and Syria. Their findings, published last week in the journal Antiquity, are changing long-held assumptions about the Roman military’s role in the area. More at the link. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Donuel Date: 22 Oct 23 - 09:40 AM WOW The World’s Oldest Human Statue Discovered at Karahan Tepe dating back 11,400 years may not be a fertility symbol.-insert joke here like it is a towel hook- Look closer and you will see a woven/knitted sweater but no pants. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Helen Date: 10 Nov 23 - 03:04 AM This isn't archeological but... Hexham bunyip folklore continues to intrigue as conservationists work to protect Australasian bittern "One night well over a century ago three miners headed to Hexham Swamp, between Newcastle and Maitland, for an evening of wild duck hunting. "But instead of finding ducks, they came across a terrifying creature with a tremendous roar 'like that of a lion' and two eyes like 'golden orbs in the night'. "And so, the legend of the Hexham bunyip was born. "That infamous night in 1879 may have become a local legend, but today this swamp creature is now rarer than ever and residents are trying to save it from extinction." Before you tune out of this article, it relates to a bird which is now close to extinction around the world. "It turns out the mysterious creature that scared the three miners in 1879 was a bird; the endangered Australasian bittern, also known as the 'bunyip bird'". ... "The Australasian bittern is globally endangered, with fewer than 2,500 individuals estimated to be left in the world. "It is also believed that more than 90 per cent of its habitat has been lost in Australia." There is a dedicated wetlands area at the riverside suburb of Hexham which is about 15 minutes drive north of where I live in Newcastle, NSW. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Helen Date: 06 Nov 23 - 01:39 AM Thanks SRS. The country that the coins came from was not stated in the article and the markings on the coins were not legible in the photos. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Helen Date: 05 Nov 23 - 06:35 PM Tens of thousands of ancient coins found off the coast of Sardinia |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 06 Oct 23 - 12:52 PM Leonardo da Vinci. Just so. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 29 Sep 23 - 03:09 PM The comprehensively-discredited politician, Michael Gove, "Britons have had enough of experts..." |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Thompson Date: 21 Oct 23 - 11:14 PM Amazing discovery in the Orkneys, the far-flung group of islands north of Scotland: a beautifully built tomb from five thousand years ago, containing fourteen skeletons of adults and children, two positioned as if they were embracing. We'll never know the stories of these people who were commemorated with such beauty and such technology. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Thompson Date: 19 Oct 23 - 01:16 AM I see no leopard…? |
Subject: BS: Mac Iain's summer house From: Thompson Date: 11 Oct 23 - 04:07 PM I find this story tragic, this family fleeing to their booleying house and burying some coins, perhaps enough to get the children away safely, but being killed by the guests they'd hosted. This is the same story Sandra posted earlier today. It fits in the Archaeology thread - or you could start a music thread to discuss this kind of thing that might be the subject of a song (or many songs.) ---mudelf |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 19 Oct 23 - 04:24 PM groan .... |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 19 Oct 23 - 08:23 AM a few more pics - NEW MONUMENTAL STATUES DISCOVERED AT GÖBEKLITEPE AND KARAHANTEPE New Statues and Fresh Insights from Karahan Tepe and Göbekli Tepe I finally found some leopards! Carving of man holding his penis and surrounded by leopards is oldest known depiction of a narrative scene, archaeologists say |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 18 Oct 23 - 02:38 AM Prehistoric skeletons of Australia's giant 'wombat' Diprotodon excavated in the Pilbara Skeletons belonging to a gigantic Australian proto-wombat have been unearthed by scientists in Western Australia's north, shedding light on the state's rich natural history. Western Australia Museum's palaeontology team descended on a remote mine site at Du Boulay Creek, in the Pilbara, where several Diprotodon fossils have lurked beneath the surface for tens of thousands of years. Related to the modern-day wombat and koala, the diprotodon is the largest known marsupial to have ever lived, growing up to four metres in length and 1.7 metres tall, and reaching weights of almost three tonnes (read on) |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 15 Oct 23 - 08:25 AM Phallus and the boar: Türkiye digs yield clues to human history The dry expanses of south-eastern Türkiye, home to some of humanity's most ancient sites, have yielded fresh discoveries in the form of a stone phallus and a coloured boar. For researchers, the carved statue of a man holding his phallus with two hands while seated atop a bench adorned with a leopard, is a new clue in the puzzle of our very beginnings. The 2.3-metre work was discovered at the end of September at Karahantepe, in the heart of a complex of some 20 sites that were home to thousands of people during the Stone Age. Karahantepe is part of the network around UNESCO-listed Gobekli Tepe, a place where our prehistoric ancestors gathered to worship more than 7,000 years before Stonehenge or the earliest Egyptian pyramids. ... Archaeologists found a 1.2 metre long by 70 centimetre tall depiction of a boar, with red eyes and teeth as well as a black-and-white body. This 11,000-year-old wild pig is the first coloured sculpture from this period discovered to date, Mr Karul said ... |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 10 Oct 23 - 05:49 AM Coin hoard could be linked to 1692's Glencoe Massacre (2023 article) The dig uncovering Glencoe's dark secrets (2019 article) |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 10 Oct 23 - 05:41 AM 1,900-year-old Knot-Frilled Child’s Gown Discovered in Israel's Cave of Letters The Cave of Letters in Israel has yielded many artifacts from the famous Bar Kokhba revolt, offering deep insights into Jewish history. Recently, a 1,900-year-old child's nightgown with intriguing "knots" was discovered, prompting speculation regarding their protective significance within ancient Jewish practices and beliefs. |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 06 Oct 23 - 04:03 AM Further evidence points to footprints in US National Park being the oldest sign of humans in the Americas New research has indicated fossil human footprints in New Mexico are likely the oldest direct evidence of human presence in the Americas, a finding that up-ends what many archaeologists thought they knew about civilisation in the region. The footprints were discovered at the edge of an ancient lake bed in White Sands National Park and date back to between 21,000 and 23,000 years ago, according to research published Thursday in the journal Science ... |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 27 Sep 23 - 02:29 AM Kofun Burial Chamber and Two Iron Swords Uncovered in Parking Lot Shrubbery - it's just a little round garden, surrounded by a low stone wall!! lots more interesting articles |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 20 Sep 23 - 05:37 PM World's oldest wooden structure discovered in Zambia, dating back 476,000 years, archaeologists say Archaeologists say they have unearthed the oldest wooden structure ever discovered, dating from nearly half a million years ago, which suggests that our ancestors may have been more advanced than previously thought. The exceptionally well-preserved wooden structure was found at Kalambo Falls in the north of Zambia, near the border with Tanzania. It dates back at least 476,000 years, well before the evolution of Homo sapiens, according to a study describing the find in the journal Nature. The wood bears cut-marks showing that stone tools were used to join two large logs to make the structure, which is believed to be a platform, walkway or raised dwelling to keep our relatives above the water. The ancestors of humans were already known to use wood at this time, but for limited purposes such as starting a fire or hunting. Larry Barham, an archaeologist at the UK's University of Liverpool and the study's lead author, told AFP that to his knowledge the previous record-holder for oldest wooden structure dated back around 9,000 years. (read on) |
Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 07 Sep 23 - 05:23 AM can't read it cos I have an ad blocker. They politely ask me to turn it off, but 1. I dunno how, & more importantly 2. I wouldn't even if I knew how, so I asked google - roman swords dead sea caves - & found this on BBC site sandra |
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