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Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2

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Sandra in Sydney 15 Jul 25 - 05:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 15 Jul 25 - 05:36 PM

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this link was below the message - Archaeologists Unearth Treasure-Filled Tomb Belonging to the First Known Ruler of a Maya City in Belize


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jul 25 - 12:56 PM

Tomb Belonging to the First Known Ruler of a Maya City in Belize

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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 25 - 11:24 AM

hidden pyramid 28,000 years old?


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 13 Jul 25 - 06:18 AM

thanks Maggie -In Denmark, an Ancient Army Met a Mysterious End in a Lake another good site bookmarked

& thanks Bill for your post


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jul 25 - 01:56 PM

ancient temple discovered in Peru-older than Macchu Pichu


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jul 25 - 11:47 AM

On Facebook today there was a blurb about the Windover Archeological site in Florida; if I've heard of it before I've forgotten a pretty interesting story. I went looking for more robust sources than Facebook.

Wikipedia

(Might be US only unless you have VPN) PBS: Florida Frontiers, The Windover people

Atlas Obscura: Bog Bodies Lay Hidden in a Florida Pond for More than 7,000 Years

NOVA (PBS); America's Bog People

From the NOVA site:
When most of us think of bog bodies, we think of northwestern Europe—Ireland, say, or Denmark. But North America has its peat bogs, too, and some of them contain the remarkably well-preserved remains of ancient people. One site in particular stands out as America's premier bog-body site: Windover.

Since its discovery in 1982, this small, peat-bottomed pond situated roughly between Cape Canaveral and Disney World in east-central Florida has offered up no fewer than 168 burials. Unlike their European counterparts, these long-dead individuals have no skin remaining; they are skeletons. But they are otherwise so well-preserved that, when unearthed, over half of them still contained brains—brains that once held the thoughts and emotions of a prehistoric people.

The remains, together with artifacts that look like they were deposited yesterday such as bone tools, a bottle gourd, and woven fabric shrouds, offer a rare portrait of life in an ancient hunter-gatherer-fisher community. And ancient it is: radiocarbon dating has placed the burials in an 1,100-year window centered on about 6280 B.C. That's over 3,500 years before the Pyramids were built (and thousands of years older than most European bog bodies). In 1986, when its full significance was coming to light—for one thing, it's the largest collection of skeletal material of this antiquity in North America—Windover was named a National Historic Landmark.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 09:00 AM

videos of excavations near Hadrian's wall

"Vinolanda"


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jul 25 - 05:07 PM

Back at 12,000 thousand year old Gobli Tepe, so many beads were found that some think they were manufactured there on a massive scale. Nine adjacent megolithic sites have not been excavated. There seems to be a symbolic astronomical indication of when and why Gobli Tepe was built.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Jul 25 - 12:22 AM

I'm reading library copies of Archaeology, a publication of the Archaeological Institute of America, & came across this article Alexander the Great's Untold Story, Archaeology Magazine, May/June 2024

so I went looking for further information (preferably images!) on the Macedonian family graves & found this beautifully illustrated article

another sigh!

more pics on WIkipedia

back to the rabbit warren of results for search on "philip ll tomb vergina"

The Discovery of The Tombs of Alexander the Great’s Father and Son in Vergina


enuf!


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 30 Jun 25 - 09:07 AM

My sister is in Europe catching up with old friends, it's her first overseas trip since COVID. She did a lot of travelling in the decades before covid.

This is what she is doing Exploring Wessex: From Stonehenge to Georgian Bath sigh!


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jun 25 - 04:16 PM

One of the finest Roman mosaics has been found and refurbished in London.
npr


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Jun 25 - 05:27 AM

Captain Cook's Endeavour Wreckage Confirmed to be Off the Coast of Rhode Island - according to Australian Archaeologists not Americans!


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Jun 25 - 04:03 AM

continuity & history


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: DaveRo
Date: 21 Jun 25 - 02:15 AM

Sandra in Sydney posted:
Chapter 74 - The Glaciation of Australia...
I wondered what the little logo at the top of that page was. At first glance I thought it might be a cartoon penguin. On zooming in and seeing 'Non Solus': maybe Adam revisiting the Garden of Eden in old age and recalling Eve. But no:

What does "Non Solus" mean in Elsevier's logo?


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jun 25 - 08:37 PM

I have this page set to load on my browser when I open it (one of two tabs that open), to use to avoid the AI results. On regular we pages AI results used to be on the top of the page, now with that extension they sneak it in as an overview within the results (from when I tried to set up a browser extension "Hide Google AI Overviews" that doesn't work very well). So I'm back to using the web page itself.

I see a couple of links about the ice ages to follow on the results you posted.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 20 Jun 25 - 06:21 PM

I asked google - ice age glaciers in australia - & for once the reply was ABOVE the AI answer, so I didn't have to ignore it
Chapter 74 - The Glaciation of Australia - Developments in Quaternary Sciences - volume 15, 2011, Pages 1037-1045

a recent search for the winners of a 2024 award when the organisation's website only showed the 2025 winner lead to AI giving the 2025 winners name so of course I did a screenshot. A search for the 2025 winners gave the same answer, then another search for 2024 finally brought up the 2024 name - with some letters missing from the middle of his name!! I have screenshots


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jun 25 - 01:27 PM

When you look at Google Earth (or even Maps) and view the northern portion of Canada, particularly in the east, and down into the Northern tier US states you can see the scouring marks of the glaciers and the till and moraine left behind. Humans lived along the front edge of that zone and I've read about some of the stone tools found. Europe also, I'm sure. But I never thought about the flip side of that, that the southern hemisphere had glaciation over the top. Glaciers over North America didn't go much further south than Michigan, Wisconsin, Washington, Montana, etc.; what would have been the range of the ice sheets in Australia?


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 16 Jun 25 - 06:45 PM

Inside Dargan Shelter, the Blue Mountains cave home to artefacts linked to the Ice Age (20,000 years) The terrain in the upper Blue Mountains is impassable in sections. It's where eucalypts climb high and scribbly gums, banksia and wattles thrive.

Survival in this environment today would be tough — which makes a recent archaeological discovery all the more extraordinary.

Scientists have uncovered Ice Age artefacts deep inside a cave 1,100 metres above sea level, challenging long-held assumptions about ancient human life in Australia.

The discoveries, dated to as far back as 20,000 years, were found in a cave known as Dargan Shelter — now believed to be the oldest known site of human activity at high elevation on the Australian continent. (read on)


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 19 May 25 - 12:12 AM

Here in Lancashire UK we have a set of arial photos available as a viewing option in MARIO (maps and related information online), which is a government provided mapping site, very useful for finding footpaths etc. They also have photos from the 1960s and some WW2 images.

I just noticed that the latest update in Google maps has images taken for our area when the sunlight was at a low angle and lots of surface detail is showing. It is worth checking this from time to time as the images are updated every so often. I did find a way of showing the previous images as well.

Robin


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Helen
Date: 18 May 25 - 06:56 PM

This painting by Margaret Olley of a room is very similar to the basement bedroom I lived in except it was painted in a less bright colour. There was a lot of antique furniture in the house too. It was like living in the previous century.

And this was the view from the top back verandah

It was an amazing place to live. I hated to leave there but I had no choice.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 18 May 25 - 06:38 PM

wow, what a place to live in & lounge in!


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Helen
Date: 17 May 25 - 09:31 PM

Thanks Sandra.

The article reminded me of a time in the mid '70's when I first moved to Newcastle NSW. I went into an old shopping arcade and went down some stairs to get to the side street, which is lower than the front entrance. I saw a window into the basement and I could see a very old large stone swimming pool or baths as they were called then. I found out it was built in the previous century, and I think the water was drawn into the pool from the harbour one street further down. Amazing peek into a previous time!

At the time I was living in a terrace house which was 100 years old and is still standing now. It was owned then by the wonderful Oz painter, Margaret Olley and I met her a couple of times while I lived in the house.


The front lounge room looked a lot like the painting on the second row, furthest right on this page:

Margaret Olley


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 May 25 - 07:22 PM

Tasmania - Oatlands Gaol's colonial-era solitary cells unearthed below old pool Archaeologists in a central Tasmanian town have uncovered the footings of colonial-era solitary cells and gallows from the former Oatlands Gaol, which was buried under an old council swimming pool.

The former penitentiary, decommissioned in the 1930s, was once a major correctional facility in Van Diemen's Land. (plus links to related stories)
... The most recent excavation this year uncovered the solitary and condemned cells. (cells were 1 m x 2m - probably built as 1 yard x 2)


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 31 Mar 25 - 06:57 PM

wow! thanks, Bill

look what I found! - Don's Maps Mezhyrich / ??????? - Mammoth Camp what an amazing site - info about the site's history is at the bottom of each article.

I've bookmarked it.

Don's Maps - Resources for the study of Palaeolithic / Paleolithic European, Russian, Ukrainian and Australian Archaeology / Archeology


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Mar 25 - 12:52 PM

prehistoric hut made from mammoth bones in Mezherich, Ukraine


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 30 Mar 25 - 03:06 PM

> They said the first land vertebrates had eight digits.

In the 1960s, I saw a newspaper article (complete with picture) about a man who had five fingers and a thumb, all fully functional, on each hand. It was claimed that the only problem he had with the extra digit was asking for six pints in a noisy pub.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Mar 25 - 12:05 PM

Some of those dinosaurs look like odd prototypes, don't they?
Scientists said Duonychus was an example of "digit reduction" — losing fingers or toes through evolution.

They said the first land vertebrates had eight digits.

The earliest dinosaurs had hands with five fingers, just like us — but many dinosaur lineages experienced digit reduction over time.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 26 Mar 25 - 03:19 AM

A 'weird' dinosaur has been unearthed in the Gobi Desert. What do we know? With two-fingered hands and long "nasty" claws, the Duonychus tsogtbaatari is certainly a strange sight.

Fossils of this dinosaur were recently unearthed in Mongolia's Gobi Desert while a water pipeline was being constructed.

Scientists say the Duonychus was a member of a group of "some of the weirdest dinosaurs ever".    (read on)

100 Years After Discovery, King Tut’s Tomb Reveals a Fascinating Secret
The 1922 discovery of King Tutankhamun’s tomb stands as one of the most extraordinary archaeological finds of the 20th century. Hidden within Egypt’s Valley of the Kings, the young pharaoh’s burial chamber contained more than 5,000 priceless artifacts, including his iconic golden mask. Thanks to this amazing discovery, the young king’s fame spread even outside the archaeological community.

More than a hundred years later, new research reveals that the tomb still has fresh insights to offer. Dr. Nicholas Brown, an Egyptologist at Yale University, argues in a study ´published in the Journal of Egyptian Archaeology that a seemingly mundane set of items found within the tomb had a critically important purpose, one that has been overlooked in terms of its significance until now. (check out the links)


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 04:17 AM

Anti-plague amulets and IOUs: the excavation that brings Roman London thundering back to life With sandals that look fresher than last year’s Birkenstocks, gossipy messages recovered from writing tablets and 73,000 shards of pottery, London Museum’s new collection is like falling head-first into the first century

Archaeologists don’t always get lucky when a site is redeveloped in the middle of London. People have been building in the city for millennia and, in more recent times, bombing it. But if the building before went too deep, or there has been too much exposure to the air by bomb damage in the past, there won’t be much to find. Things were especially bad before 1991, when there was no planning protection for anything but scheduled ancient monuments. “We used to have to beg to get on site,” says Sophie Jackson, archaeologist at Museum of London Archaeology (Mola).

It’s not that developers are insensitive, says Jackson: “When we did the excavation at Barts hospital, [it] was functioning above us – we were right under the MRI machines. Developers recognise the social value.” It’s just that the stars don’t often align. (read on)


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Mar 25 - 09:44 PM

How? Walking seems the logical method. Moving over land over time.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Mar 25 - 04:45 PM

Fossil face bones discovered in Spanish cave may belong to first ancient humans in Western Europe
In short:

Facial bones dated to between 1.4 and 1.1 million years old have been found in a cave in the Atapuerca mountains in Spain.

They are the oldest bones of their kind in Western Europe, and researchers say they belong to a species closer to the more primitive Homo erectus.

What's next?

While the discovery provides more evidence on the earliest human species to appear in Europe, more research is needed to settle how they got there from Africa.   (read on)


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Helen
Date: 23 Feb 25 - 12:56 AM

Ah. Mystery solved! :-)


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: JennieG
Date: 23 Feb 25 - 12:11 AM

No, Helen - in Tamworth, but it also had regular floods.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Helen
Date: 22 Feb 25 - 10:48 PM

Were you living in or near Maitland, JennieG? :-)


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: JennieG
Date: 22 Feb 25 - 10:02 PM

I can remember the 1955 floods as I'm a wee bit older than you, Helen!

My parents' house was on a hill. To get to school we walked down the hill - at the bottom was a dip which filled during rain - then a couple more blocks, and we were at school. The dip, of course, flooded, but we didn't get out of school; we had to walk up the hill and go a longer way.

I remember my mother being absolutely mortified when she received a box of clothing from my father's sister and her family, who lived interstate. They had heard about the floods and assumed that we were washed out of house and home, which was not the case at all - we were high and dry.

Except when my brother and I had to walk to school....


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Helen
Date: 22 Feb 25 - 09:48 PM

This anniversary might not quite fit into this thread but....

Hunter Valley remembers 1955 flood that killed 14 and left hundreds homeless

My Mum was five months pregnant with me and she and my sister were evacuated and went to stay at her parents' farm in Newcastle.

Yesterday Hubby and I went to a commemorative exhibition and then a theatre event also relating to the history of the flood.

1955 flood photos taken by Jim Lucey

Most people who lived through the flood and talked about it found the aftermath devastating as well. My family home only had flood waters up to the skirting boards but there was flood mud to be cleared out afterwards, all the way through the house. Other houses were completely washed away or the flood waters reached up to the roof.

At the theatre event we were told that where we were sitting was under a couple of metres of water at the time.

I only found out yesterday that the State Emergency Service (SES) was formed as a result of the Maitland flood in 1955. There was a huge flood mitigation project undertaken in the years afterwards too, so other flood events did not affect the area as badly as the 1955 flood.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 20 Feb 25 - 04:53 AM

Lost Tomb of King Thutmose II Finally Discovered in Egypt - discovered several years ago & now identified

5th Century Byzantine Monk Buried in Chains in Jerusalem Was a Woman

New Study of Ancient Societies Explains Why Money Was Invented


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Feb 25 - 07:14 AM

Evidence of human habitation 70,000 years ago is discovered in Australia's northern area now beneath the sea.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 25 - 09:38 AM

7th-century pagan cult site in Netherlands


Lots of other articles


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 23 Jan 25 - 05:00 PM

Discovery under floorboards at Hyde Park Barracks paints clearer picture of 19th century women's live ... The barracks were opened in 1819 and initially used as living quarters for convicts ... In 1848, the barracks were transformed into a depot where thousands of immigrant women, some accompanied by their children, stayed in dormitories and sought employment opportunities ... Fourteen years later, the barracks then opened a shelter for "infirm or destitute women" on the top floor
..."While the barracks are most commonly associated with housing male convicts, the bulk of the archaeological collection actually dates from the period of female occupation in the depot and asylum.

Eating in colonial institutions: desiccated plant remains from nineteenth-century Sydney

Way back in 2007 JennieG & I went to a exhibition at the Barracks - a Stitch in Time featuring the textiles needlework tools of the female inhabitants (1848-1886). Participants also gathered with their own needlework & we even got our photo in a Craft magazine. One of the group dropped her needle & it fell thru the floorboards, adding a 21st century item to the 19th & 20th items!


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Jan 25 - 11:34 AM

Those basic things our ancient ancestors developed that we still use - cooked food, clothing, shelter, art, and writing. All interesting subjects that archaeologists look for in their digs. Drop spindles for making thread and yarn are incredibly simple technology that may not be recognizable unless you're looking for them in a dig. Illustrated here - beads or ballast for a spindle? These Mysterious 12,000-Year-Old Pebbles May Be Early Evidence of Wheel-Like Tools, Archaeologists Say from Smithsonian late last year.

When I was an undergraduate back in the 1970s I house-sat for a friend who had a keeshond dog and a visiting friend told me she used that kind of dog hair in making wool, so for the couple of years I was there I took her bags of hair after brushing the dog. There was probably enough hair off that pooch to knit another dog. :)


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 25 - 11:20 AM

My mom was an expert at the spinning wheel. I never got more than a foot or two of perfect yarn. It's really hard to do.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Jan 25 - 07:27 PM

World's oldest cloth - 2010 article

Exploring the Oldest Fabrics in Existence

Scientists find evidence of humans making clothes 120,000 years ago

Textiles - Decay and preservation in Seventeenth-to Nineteenth- Century Burials in Finland


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Helen
Date: 06 Jan 25 - 06:06 PM

This is a bit of a stretch for archaeology but, it's an interesting historical concept with links to the modern technological world.

When I was a librarian I saw a book in the collection, Card Weaving by Candace Crockett. I ordered a copy for myself and played around with various projects over a number of years. I bought two other books as well: Introducing Tablet Weaving, by Eileen Bird, and The Techniques of Tablet Weaving by Peter Collingwood.

A history of card weaving

There is a lot of archaeological history behind card or tablet weaving dating back at least as far as Ancient Egypt or the Bronze Age. You can do an internet search for images of some of the woven patterns, and some patterns are available to download.

Even more interesting is the link to a key idea in computing technology, i.e. punch cards which can be linked also to Joseph Marie Jacquard's brilliant concept of punched weaving cards on mechanical and then electrified looms in France. The punch card concept, based on binary 1's and 0's was used in the development of the Enigma machine. I also learned about punch cards in my librarian course because libraries previously used them too.

A couple of years ago I saw a documentary on the development of computer technology which probably owes a lot to the punch card system. Coincidentally, after emailing some information to my family about it, that very night another documentary showed the Jacquard weaving innovation and referred to the link to computer technology.

If you are wondering why I sent the info to my family, my adult nephew who has two school-age sons, was sitting at the Christmas lunch table trying to get one of those bracelet making gadgets to work, with little coloured rubber bands. It looked a bit fiddly and I was reminded of the card weaving and how easy it was, after understanding the concept and after I created the cards.

I told the family all about card weaving and offered to lend the books and cards to my nephew so that he could try it out. He is a computer engineer by trade, so it seemed like a good fit to me.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Jan 25 - 05:06 PM

I had 4 of her books & they went last year when I downsized my Historic Costume collection. Some of our historic & colonial dancers make & wear perfectly authentic costumes & 4 of them went up & down my stairs removing my books! One looked at the Ladies of Fashion (17 dolls, 1066-1911) & said she'd take them & her daughter collects bears. Dolls & bears are still here but they have a home!

Other collections of course are still here ...


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Jan 25 - 12:03 PM

I just ran that book title/author past my daughter who makes historic garments for SCA and activities at the art museum where she is the librarian. Her texted answer is "Hah yes, I have a couple of her books at home and all of them at work." When she was learning how to make some of the garments they used for anime and other events she would put some pretty obscure and often quite expensive books on her Amazon or other wish list. I may have purchased one for her and don't remember it. :)


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Jan 25 - 08:39 AM

One of my other interests is the history of costume, & in the 60s/70s an amazing researcher took patterns from surviving garments, including those European Royalty & nobility were buried in, see volume 3 - Janet Arnold Patterns of Fashion series Parts of the tomb clothing had rotted over the centuries.

here's one of the garments she measured - scroll down to "Die gruftigsten Klamotten" (Dorothea Sabina von Nuremberg)

Others researchers also did so, but I didn't have their books.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Jan 25 - 12:15 AM

The Notre-Dame Cathedral cleans up nicely, doesn't it? Comparing photos of the cathedral before with all of the black smoke stains till now is remarkable.

That lead sarcophagus has been featured on a couple of programs I've seen recently. All of the stuff going on in nooks and crannies and under the floors is equally interesting.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 05 Jan 25 - 08:47 PM

A look at the newly-restored Notre-Dame Cathedral mentioned the sarcophagus so I went looking for more info

Archaeologists unearth Sarcophagus beneath Notre Dame Cathedral


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth) pt 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Dec 24 - 11:51 AM

You should have pulled up a couple of links. Canopus looks interesting.

An article from MIT.


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