BS: KISS keep it simple

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 08:32 AM

See? Closure of this thread is the goal
of the indecent despite my including interesting links.
Good people could always include science links that are interesting to them.

Perhaps the most compelling link on Mudcat now is Sandra from Sydney's link to a half a million-year-old wooden structure.

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Considering who started the thread and who keeps coming back to argue, there are no innocent parties in the demise of yet another thread. ---mudelf

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 08:12 AM

Dave - Cleaning it up is the Mods’ job. It’s you lot’s bickering that’s making the place stink. Why do you think so many former posters stay away nowadays? They haven’t all died, I suspect many are still around, but I also suspect that, like me, they’re sick to death of a small number of posters dominating threads with their ad nauseam bickering.

Steve - you’re one of the main bickerers. Know thyself. (Virtually no chance of that, I know).

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 07:51 AM

John, when someone comes to a place you like and starts to shit all over it, it is not bickering to a) ask them to clean it up and b) complain. I know you will say just ignore it but, like shit, it starts to stink after a while and someone has to do something.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 07:50 AM

Asking you to take responsibility for your posts is neither hooliganism nor trolling. The closest to trolling here, though not quite there, is someone with nothing to say accusing us of "bickering."

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 07:30 AM

Still bickering then…??

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 07:28 AM

I'm not anything except curious, concerned, and contemporary.
You guys are ambassadors whether you know it or not. 70-year-old hooligans and trolls are not a good look for the UK. We also have our version of rednecks. Even worse we have Trump fanatics.

a brain mechanism for hate

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 06:59 AM

I thought you were supposed to be a psychologist. That link is completely irrelevant. Now answer Raggytash or just promise us that you'll never post throwaway bullshit ever again, toe-rag. Speaking of irrelevance, there's nothing "scatalogical" about calling you a shit.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 06:21 AM

The psychology of hate: Moral concerns differentiate hate from dislike

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 06:03 AM

Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 07:06 PM

Hell will freeze over first.
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Perhaps your scatological remarks have more to do with old ethnic hatreds than science.https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Sep 23 - 07:20 PM

Just knock it off, you little shit, and answer Raggytash, why don't you.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Sep 23 - 07:12 PM

What's feeble about Steve's post other than no mention of the miracle microbes?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Sep 23 - 09:29 AM

So, yet another example of you posting utter nonsense, another feeble attempt to try to baffle with bullshit.

No surprise really.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Sep 23 - 08:05 AM

Good post from Steve's 1st hand observation of Vulcano.

I can not even locate Raggytash's sense of humor.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 08:40 PM

OK Don, for the third time of asking can you please provide a sensible answer to my response to your post below.

"Strangely enough the hotter the Earth is, the colder Hell becomes."

More abject nonsense.

Can you locate hell for us, have you any evidence of the changing temperatures there, if you can locate it.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 07:57 PM

Grrr. Damned rogue apostrophe's...

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 07:02 PM

I know Vulcano well. We've been to the summit (it's about 1600 feet) and we've relaxed by its famous, stinking mud pool, declining to enter it, unlike lots of other people there. There is much sulphurous effusion going on at the top. Fumaroles and stuff. Scary in several places. It's been out of bounds for several years due to increased volcanic activity. It's last eruption was in the late 1880s and it was quite devastating. Try to ascend it and you could be fined €500. There's a lot going on round there on land and at sea, most of it excitingly smelly. It doesn't have a great reputation as a good place for a holiday. You can see Stromboli from the summit and the view is glorious. We stayed on the next-door island of Lipari. Quite a lot of the film Il Postino was made on Salina, another close-by island, which produces the best capers in the world. Go and have a look, and don't let the microbes bite you. Another volcano famous for a microbe is La Solfatara at Pozzuoli, near Naples. Geysers, hot springs and hot mud pools are fertile ground for looking for thermophilic bacteria, and one was discovered new to science at Solfatara. I've been there too and it's mightily impressive with its bubbling mud, hot ground and fierce fumaroles. You can't go there any more either, following a tragic accident there in 2017 in which a young boy and his parents died after an unfenced part of the crater floor collapsed. Solfatara is in the large caldera called the Campi Flegrei, or the Fiery Fields, just a few miles from Naples and Vesuvius (been up there too!). It's a supervolcano that's been on high alert for several years following an increase in ground uplift and other seismic activity.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 06:11 PM

Underground microbes can trap CO2. underground CO2 eating microbes

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 06:02 PM

The new microbe, a cyanobacterium, was discovered in September in volcanic seeps near the Italian island of Vulcano, where the water contains high levels of CO2. The researchers said the bug turned CO2 into biomass faster than any other known cyanobacteria.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 03:14 PM

One of his favoUrite female aids called him a malignant narcissist.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 02:39 PM

Don... Don...

Donald Trump, Dave?

Mind you, don't know about Trump and the science bit....Let me think who else might fit the bill...

Oh, wait...

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 02:14 PM

I can think of one, Steve. Self obsessed. Thinks he is God's gift to science. Posts misinformation all the time. Will never admit he is wrong. Inflicts his world view on everyone here and calls those who disagree idiots or narcissists. Can't name names of course ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 12:45 PM

Examples of such people, please, unless your courage has deserted you again...

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 10:07 AM

Hell is inside malignant narcissists who think the world deserves their vengeance.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Sep 23 - 10:28 AM

You think a lot of things Don, however if your recent form is anything to go by most of them are erroneous.

Now, perhaps you will answer my question "Can you locate hell for us, have you any evidence of the changing temperatures there, if you can locate it."

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 23 - 08:24 AM

I think Venus is hell. It's bright as hell and hot as Hades.
Besides it's cloudy ALL the time.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 18 Sep 23 - 07:53 AM

> Can you locate hell for us, have you any evidence of the changing
> temperatures there, if you can locate it.

* An article exists somewhere-or-other, and in various mutant forms, on a thermodynamics essay on "Deduce the temperature of Hell from first principles". The NSFW coda is a late addition.

* Satre: "Hell is other people." There's a related Asimov short story. Deducing the location and temperature is left as an exercise.

* My own contribution: it's the temperature of a barn dance at a hillbilly music festival on a summer's evening. The music I can tolerate, but I've got three left feet.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 23 - 06:25 AM

A split second sprite caught on film

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 23 - 05:52 AM

What is the new Physics? String theory is a subset of quantum mechanics. There are attempts to reinvent space-time in hopes of a breakthrough. Then there is Twistor physics that sort of inverts our model of the universe giving a new perspective and a more simple mathematical approach. Finally the pan psychic consciousness model of the universe is gaining more respect.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Sep 23 - 05:45 AM

"Strangely enough the hotter the Earth is, the colder Hell becomes."

More abject nonsense.

Can you locate hell for us, have you any evidence of the changing temperatures there, if you can locate it.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 23 - 10:23 PM

Our living Einstien
He does not believe in inflation either.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 23 - 09:34 PM

Light is weird. It does not interact with itself.
Illuminating light

what if dark matter has anti-photons that do not interact with baryonic matter?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 23 - 08:58 PM

Absolutely not an answer to the question I asked.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 23 - 08:55 PM

Trolls 101

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 23 - 07:57 PM

Then do describe it for us.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 23 - 07:17 PM

Strangely enough the hotter the Earth is, the colder Hell becomes.
There are many inverse relationships like Supply and demand and time versus distance traveled. Far from being purely theoretical, inverse relationships exist in most systems that affect our day to day lives. There is a well-described inverse relationship between trolls and their target.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 07:06 PM

Hell will freeze over first.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 04:58 PM

...just not very well? Nothing wrong with that but it does make it even more important to check your facts in case you have misread or misheard something. When you do, as you obviously did with the MRI discussion, just accept that you got it wrong and accept any help you can get.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 04:45 PM

So you can read and hear?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 02:18 PM

You certainly don't listen. Especially when you are told to check your facts before posting.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 01:34 PM

Mostly I listen but gun powder rendered the left ear very weak.
Reading requires 2 pair of glasses at once but it can be done.

Billy Crystal enhanced Fernando Lamas paraphrase: "Its better to look good than to see good".

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 11:24 AM

How do you get your information if you cannot read?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 11:23 AM

good guys win

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 11:03 AM

Who says I can read?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 10:28 AM

There is a transcript that you can either follow or simply read, Don. It would have made everything clear. Yes, people make mistakes. I often do and, when I find out, I try to correct them. Your cavalier attitude to facts is what is causing the problem here. Your statements, that she has invented a better MRI scanner and won a Nobel prize, are simply wrong. Check your 'facts' before posting is all that anyone is asking.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 10:18 AM

The brain generates reality from perception. Yes I did mishear the 3 seconds when Nobel prize was mentioned. When people play the game telephone, it doesn't mean they are deliberately lying.
This is proof I am not AI. Unless AI is cleverly lying.

Chance favors the connected mind. Stay connected all.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 09:55 AM

Pulled the trigger too soon, I meant to add, look where technology has gotten us so far.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 09:45 AM

Thanks for the update, Dave. It sounds like someday we may have a real version of Bones McCoy's pocket scanner.
I'm not exactly a Luddite but it seems like we need to do something about an overcrowded planet before we start developing tech that enables people to live longer and longer lives. I take no comfort in the phrase "Oh don't worry about it, technology will take care of it".

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 09:33 AM

In a nutshell, the 'inventor a better MRI' that won a nobel prize for her work has not invented a better MRI, never won a nobel prize and such a device does not even exist.

Do you wonder why people cannot take you seriously, Don?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 09:28 AM

I hope so too gillymor but, as my previous post says, to date (and bear in mind this talk was 5 years ago) it only 'could possibly' replace the MRI. A more recent article (Dec 2022) says it has not been achieved but it does seem close.

Developing 3D live hologram technology

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 09:22 AM

BTW - You are right in that it is not a 'Better MRI' at all. Even the description of the TED talk says -

"Taking us to the edge of optical physics, Jepsen unveils new technologies that utilize light and sound to track tumors, measure neural activity and could possibly replace the MRI machine with a cheaper, more efficient and wearable system."

So, rather than a 'better MRI' it 'could possibly' (note those words) replace the MRI machine. Does it come as any surprise that Don, once again, has got the wrong end of the stick? My prediction is that he is looking at it a better way than we can possibly understand and we are all idiots for not understanding that :-D