BS: KISS keep it simple

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 12:28 PM

Nor am I a self-promoter ...

I beg to differ.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 12:25 PM

The better I know myself the better I can know others in a more limited way. I believe the marketplace is a poor measure of true excellence. Just being a professional who does something for money is not the best measure of abilities or being a good human being.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 12:06 PM

Knowing yourself will always be more important than knowing others,
It is rare to feel proud of an achievement after 4 years or 40 years. Most of the time a feeling of satisfaction comes from a very short lived task.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 11:35 AM

Well rot my flay-o...!

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 11:29 AM

I am not a PhD physicist nor do I publish papers. Nor am I a self-promoter or a competitive advertiser of art or ideas except in this minnow pond of social media pond. Is that a bad thing? I think not. I am as amateur as they come. You may think that sounds like hubris but I think it sounds like humility to me. I suppose I am the nail that sticks out.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 11:08 AM

Donuel,
I asked, up thread, if any of your musings had appeared in a reputable scientific publication and the answer was, basically, no.

As a follow-up question, have any other non-scientific common interest groups received the benefit of your insight in the way this music orientated site has?

DC

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 09:38 AM

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 08:47 AM

You left out the one word that fits, deluded.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 08:29 AM

Thank you, being forward looking is not always fantasy.
We have many different words for it. I think our future concept is what separates us from dogs who have only an inkling of the future but enough to be successful in the hunt. The words we use for this ability are many; able to see around corners, prophesize, predict, prescience, crystal gazing, etc. but fantasy is not among them. All in all we are fairly successful with it. Perhaps one in several billion people are remarkably good at it. I'm about one in 2,000.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 07:25 AM

Speculate away, dear boy. If there's one thing in this universe that's utterly boundless it's your capacity for fantasy.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 07:18 AM

What makes spinning stellar black holes different from a static Eienstien black hole are internal zones where centrifugal zones are so strong that they stall the gravitational force inward and create time zones that nearly stop and electrodynamic forces that shoot out the poles.

Since the human brain is made by our universe the quantum structure of nanotubes and the nothingness of the central vesicles may offer more clues to the quantum nature of time and the if anything can happen it will happen properties that would really piss off Steve regarding subjects like ESP and prescience.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Apr 23 - 05:38 AM

The 03.54 PM post is not the work of Donuel (which hardly needed Sherlock to figure out) but is a straight lift from the website Einstein Online. Hope this helps.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 04:48 PM

Seeing a geometric relationship is easy for me but what looks impossible to me is solving the Swarzfield equations that Einstein proposed.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 04:38 PM

There were fewer of these eternal primordial black holes after the big bang but the number of new black holes increased over time at such an increasing rate that the effect on space gradually grew and is fairly pronounced today. Noticing the rate of black hole formation and the accompanying growth of space expansion is all that I found promising.
Looking back on this it was really not that hard.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 03:54 PM

If you think about the unstoppable collapse of a body to form a black hole, you might think that the body ends up with all its matter concentrated in a single point of space – the singularity. But again, this picture of the spacepoint-singularity residing in the center of the black hole is simply wrong. Using our analogy, you can see why. The singularity is the whole of the axis – and the axis represents a space direction. Hence, the singularity is not a point in space – it is infinitely extended!

This is exceedingly weird. From the outside, the region of a black hole looks like the surface of a sphere (in our model with two space dimensions and one time dimension, like the circumference of a circle). But inside that sphere, which has only a finite surface area, you can “hide” objects that are infinitely large – infinitely extended in space. How does this work? Again, it works because time and space trade places. Our simple scenario corresponds to an eternal black hole – a black hole that has always existed and will continue to exist indefinitely in the future. From the outside, the black hole is infinitely extended in time, but has only a finite size in space. Inside, the tables are turned: Time is only of finite extent (it starts at the horizon and ends abruptly at the singularity-axis), but instead one space direction, the axis direction, is now infinitely long.

If you have a hard time getting to grips with this mixture of time and space, rest assured that physicists have a hard time visualizing it, as well. Luckily, physicists have a language in which the properties of simple black holes can be formulated very precisely – the language of mathematics -, and using this formulation as a guide, it is possible to develop a pretty good intuition about spacetime containing a black hole.
This analogy isn’t perfect. In the analogy, the change-over of space and time happens suddenly, at the boundary. In a more precise formulation, the change-over is more gradual. In a way, the time direction is bent more and more inward as you get closer to the black hole. As the bending is strong enough to prevent any object from moving in any direction but inwards, you cross the horizon.

Also, the black hole is an especially simple specimen. It is spherically symmetric – a so-called Schwarzschild black hole, after Karl Schwarzschild who, in 1915, was the first to write down the equations defining and describing such a black hole; a special solution of Einstein’s equations of general relativity. (However, it took physicists more than forty years to understand the weird spacetime geometry that Schwarzschild’s equations imply!) As has already been mentioned, this type of black hole is eternal – it has always been there, and will always be there. More realistic black holes with a definite beginning (for example those produced by the collapse of a massive star) or eternal black holes which rotate all have a somewhat more complex inside structure.

Apart from these qualifications, the analogy holds, and it does capture an essential aspect of a real black hole’s spacetime geometry – time and space changing places at the horizon, and some fundamental consequences of that exchange.

Under such intense gravitational fields, no life could survive so experiencing time going in directions unknown to life will never be experienced.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Rain Dog
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 11:17 AM

"I have often said anyone and everyone should hold a view of cosmology be it for religious or scientific curiosity or knowing where they live."

In a book* I was reading recently, I came across mention of Dr. Jack Van Impe. It seems that in 2001 he said that black holes fulfill all the technical requirements to be the location of Hell.

*The book was The Devil's Atlas by Edward Brooke-Hitching

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 10:01 AM

Fortune favors the doers, don't give up learning.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 09:40 AM

The treatment you refer to is promising. But it is not a cure. We hope it will be, we want it to be, but it isn't yet. The sources that report on this report on it accurately. Perhaps you should take a lead from them. As for your cosmological meanderings, why not take a hint from your own thread title?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 08:54 AM

Sorry, my disturbed fool needs attention...

Other reasonable people already recognize that certain cancers can be cured with medications and treatment modalities. Survival after 7 years is considered a cure but no one conflates that with all cancer cured.
MD is now in that category with a new gene therapy aided by CRISPR technology but it is a very specific treatment that can cure a specific geneticly caused form of MD..

My peculiar interest in black holes, cosmology and the multiverse many worlds theory has been confusing because they were my own thinking points, particularly in the beginning. I have often said anyone and everyone should hold a view of cosmology be it for religious or scientific curiosity or knowing where they live.

I was fortunate that my curiosity was sparked by witnessing an event42 years ago that defied our current scientific understanding. The best book to begin to understand is Flatland. You will be able to understand Michiu Kaku because he is as good if not a better communicator than Carl Sagan. His books began with Hyperspace and today The God Equation.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 08:01 AM

So mix that dirt with water and you get mud. Clear as.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 06:17 AM

While everything in science is derived indirectly when we can't go there directly like the inside of the sun. To be true it must be testable, reproducible and falsifiable. For String Theory that test will be to perfectly derive the mass of a proton using string theory equations. That is how close we are and yet far away.

It turns out we do get something from nothing. The energy in the Universe equals zero when the positive energy of matter and radiation is equal to the negative energy of gravity, or when adding all the different galaxy spins turn out to be zero. Hawking used to say the dirt you remove from a hole equals the volume of the hole.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Mar 23 - 05:08 AM

Yet, in spite of all your incomprehensible verbiage (which, as is all too transparently obvious, is there to distract from the very simple fact that you made an untrue statement), there is still no cure for muscular dystrophy. The fact that you can so blithely make such a fundamental and avoidable error out of sheer carelessness, which you then can't admit to, calls into question the credibility of everything else you say. Over to you.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 08:48 PM

Our science budget was cut but the Iraq war budget was increased.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 08:38 PM

Europe will build a bigger collider one day that should create dark matter.
The US spent a billion dollars to build a Large Hadron Collider and another billion dollars to fill in the hole. It put the US 2 generations behind Europe's discoveries.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 08:22 PM

The theory of everything is expected to be an elegant equation less than 2 inches long.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 08:19 PM

No the POINT is the elegant beauty of the simple symmetry in the Universe.
Coincidentally my conclusion that black holes create expanding space is now a contending theory surprised me.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 08:05 PM

Well, the point is that there is no cure for muscular dystrophy.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 07:55 PM

C) He's crazy, (A7) He's manic de(Dm)pressive (A7)and (Dm) angry
He's (G7) crazy, paranoid, schizoid and (C) rude (C#dim ) and (Dm) violent (G7)
They (C) gave him(A7) some kind of new medi(Dm)cation (A7) (Dm)
And (G7) lately I think he's murderous (C) too. (F) (C) (C7)

(F) Bat shit crazy(C) (C7)
(C#7) And (D7) lately I wonder what he's going to do (G7) In (Dm) jail (G7)(spoken) sue?
Cause He's (C) crazy, psy(A7)chotic and lieing de(Dm)pendent, (A7) (Dm)

He's (F) angry ag(Em)gressive, com(Dm)pulsive, ob(A7)sessive
He's long haul (Dm) crazy from (G7) knowing (C) he's(G7) through

(F) Worried? You bet your ass I get (C) worried (B) (C)(B)(C)(C#)
Just (D7) wondering, wondering just what I should (G7) do (Dm) (G7)
'Cause He's (C) crazy, psy(A7)chotic and deeply de(Dm)pendant (A7) (Dm)
He's (F) laughin' and (Em) lyin', patho(Dm)logically (A7) fryin'
He so (Dm) crazy just like (G7) you know (C) who.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 07:50 PM

People do crazy things for 100 million dollars. I consider you partly crazy but not a contender.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 07:38 PM

Not another word or your wife may have to off you for security's sake.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 07:34 PM

In a repeat conclusion to keeping it simple in the Universe, we see that symmetry is the repeating beauty. The Standard model is not accepted as the theory of everything by anyone. For one thing, it is the ugliest organization of asymmetrically numbered particles but it almost works. The theories that use the 4 known forces in the Universe have to add gravity by hand and the equations usually blow up or don't work smoothly because there is not enough room to unite them with gravity In 3 dimensions. There is a theory that creates gravity automatically and allows gravity to naturally appear - and that is String Theory. With extra dimensions, there is room to allow all the forces to unite along with gravity.

2,000 years ago Democritus theorized the Universe was made of atoms (that which can not be cut) but Pythagoras saw that strings of different lengths had different frequencies and saw the Universe in terms of music with beauty and harmony and of course symmetry. I see how they were both right in their way. Today we are on the brink
of a TOE a theory of everything. While everything in science is derived indirectly to be true it must be testable, reproducible and falsifiable. For String Theory that test will be to perfectly derive the mass of a proton using string theory equations. That is how close we are and yet far away.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 07:14 PM

DISCLAIMER: For security reasons, I have not revealed my source into the workings of the NIH, it is my better half who is an active member of the decision-making for NIH grants.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 07:04 PM

So then it has been cured in the future. That's simple enough.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 06:53 PM

There is no question that life is complex but the alphabet of DNA is as simple as the 4 GTCA. The four forces of the universe are the strong nuclear force that confounded Einstein, the weak nuclear force, the electromagnetic force that Maxwell showed was a symmetry between magnetism and electricity and finally Gravity as a pushing force (not a pulling force).

The biggest release of energy in the Universe happens when two Super Massive Black Holes merge from gravity. The waves produced are so huge that each wave is about 15 years apart and the energy released is more than all of the shining stars in the universe. We can see the wave coming when it warps and twists visible Pulsars that are between the explosion and Earth. The energy release is 5% of the energy in both SMBHs but is so huge that there is no way to make a comparison in a way the human mind can imagine.



PS re: the distractors, A Band-Aid for damaged genesfor
People with Duchenne muscular dystrophy, referred to as DMD, have various mutations in the body’s largest gene, dystrophin, which is a protein that cells need to stay intact. Dystrophin has 79 sections, or exons. If even one is missing, the body cannot produce dystrophin and the muscles degenerate.

There is no cure for DMD, but a new class of drugs called antisense oligonucleotides uses an approach called “exon skipping,” which acts like a Band-Aid over the missing exons so the body can skip over the damaged instructions and produce the protein needed to rebuild muscle tissue. Now a new gene therapy break through can correct for the specific missing gene. The explanation is possibly too complex to explain here so I will continue to liberally use the word cure despite the objector. When the results are published I'm sure he will not apologize or relent.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 23 - 06:03 PM

In conclusion to keeping it simple in the Universe, we see that symmetry is the repeating beauty. The Standard model is not accepted as the theory of everything by anyone. For one thing, it is the ugliest organization of asymmetric particles but it almost works. The theories that use the 4 known forces in the Universe have to add gravity by hand and the equations usually blow up or don't work smoothly because there is not enough room to unite them with gravity. There is a theory that needs gravity and automatically
allows gravity to naturally appear and that is String Theory. With extra dimensions, there is room to allow all the forces to unite along with gravity.

2,000 years ago Democritus theorized the Universe was made of atoms (that which can not be cut) but Pythagoras saw that strings of different lengths had different frequencies and saw the Universe in terms of music with beauty and harmony and of course symmetry. I see how they were both right in their way. Today we are on the brink
of a TOE a theory of everything. While everything in science is derived indirectly to be true it must be testable, reproducible and falsifiable. For String Theory that test will be to perfectly derive the mass of a proton using string theory equations. That is how close we are and yet far away.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 08:52 PM

Dunno about you, gillymor, but I've never had much success when I've tried to goggle anything...

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 08:03 PM

It's hard to argue with someone who's receiving "real time insider information" which is "not goggleable". Probably via confidential transmissions to his tin foil hat.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 04:35 PM

What you said was plain wrong. Of course, the very last thing you do is "plain." There is no cure for muscular dystrophy, right?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 04:27 PM

You know that real time insider information is not goggleable.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 01:50 PM

From wiki: "There is no cure for any disorder from the muscular dystrophy group."

From the NHS website: "There's no cure for MD."

There is no reference to a cure for muscular dystrophy in either of the links you provided, which is hardly surprising. Your statement is without foundation.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 23 - 12:43 PM

There is no cure for muscular dystrophy.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 09:44 PM

The gene therapy trials are working The problem is that there are so many varients.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 09:27 PM

We know the people who cured malaria. I posted all this last year.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 09:17 PM

These are reality.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 06:14 PM

There is no cure for muscular dystrophy. Malaria is an acute condition which can be treated effectively but which may return. Talk of a "cure" is not appropriate.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 05:40 PM

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/story/newly-discovered-anatomy-shields-and-monitors-brain

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 09:51 AM

A good track record including cures for M dystrophy and malsria.

https://www.nih.gov/sites/default/files/about-nih/discovery-into-health/nih-turning-discovery-into-health.pdf

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 09:10 AM

"Insights" being the non-operative word?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 09:04 AM

A person interested in new scientific insights can see through these attempts to suppress them. It used to be the church that wanted to stifle new ideas.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Mar 23 - 08:16 AM

So how many posts is that now, John, in which you're "ignoring" me/us? Oh, the irony! :-)