Help with Scottish place names please?

Subject: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Rigby
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 04:23 PM

I've been learning an unusual version of Geordie in the Greig / Duncan collection called The Lady o' Gight. Can anyone advise on how the place names should be pronounced?

Gight -- "geet"?
Ythanside -- "eethanside"?

Thanks!

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 04:51 PM

Gight -- "geet"? I think this is correct and it's the same place referred to in the Lass O' Fyvie O.
Ythanside -- "eethanside"? This is pronounced eye-than-side.

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 05:09 PM

In "Dinner Ladies" Victoria Wood's character, Brenda, reckons all Scottish place names are spelled Ecclefechan and pronounced Kirkcudbright -D

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Joe_F
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 05:35 PM

Except Auchtermuchty.

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST,Lang Johnnie More
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 05:55 PM

Both here - Jock knows all - I heard "gicht" [ 34 secs ] :

https://youtu.be/SvxLPj3XIak

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 08:23 PM

I've only heard Gight pronounced exactly as it's spelt - guttural fricative "gh".

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: leeneia
Date: 18 Jan 23 - 05:11 PM

Hold up a minute, Jack. Let's see. G can be hard or soft. gh can be silent or German as in ich or ach. I can be short or long. So Gight can be

Jite
Gite
Jicht
Gicht

Supposing it's truly phonetic and we pronounce both the g and h, we can have:

Gig-ht
Gij-ht
Jig-ht
Jij-ht

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jan 23 - 06:03 PM

https://youtu.be/jEdXBXZeqUU

https://youtu.be/q9tjuI2JNnM

https://youtu.be/i1KNdFOhVOE

a href="https://youtu.be/W1BZQZosCbw">https://youtu.be/W1BZQZosCbw

Fit mair dae ye need ?

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Rigby
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 04:17 AM

Wow. Thanks everyone, that's super helpful.

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 06:45 AM

could be an interesting theme this- how would a Sassenach pronounce MILNGAVIE or a Jock pronounce MEOPHAM?

be quick, try & get in before the postcard frompatriot Mrs Trellis of North Wales

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 07:01 AM

Happisburgh to you sir
Regards
Siobhan Cholmondely

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 07:18 AM

”how would a Sassenach pronounce MILNGAVIE”

I’m a Sassenach, and I would pronounce it ‘Mul-gye’.

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST,Oriel
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 08:16 AM

'Woolfardisworthy' - as pronounced by anyone outside Devon?

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 08:43 AM

And Lomeshaye in Burnley?

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 08:47 AM

I will not mention Barnoldswick (Barnick)

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Rigby
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 03:07 PM

But are there any ballads about Meopham or Lomeshaye?

Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jan 23 - 05:25 AM

you are just being devious here, Rigby- I would quote from one of the many ballads about these places, but then you could work out the pronunciation