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Help with Scottish place names please?

Rigby 17 Jan 23 - 04:23 PM
John MacKenzie 17 Jan 23 - 04:51 PM
Dave the Gnome 17 Jan 23 - 05:09 PM
Joe_F 17 Jan 23 - 05:35 PM
GUEST,Lang Johnnie More 17 Jan 23 - 05:55 PM
Jack Campin 17 Jan 23 - 08:23 PM
leeneia 18 Jan 23 - 05:11 PM
GUEST 18 Jan 23 - 06:03 PM
Rigby 19 Jan 23 - 04:17 AM
GUEST 19 Jan 23 - 06:45 AM
John MacKenzie 19 Jan 23 - 07:01 AM
Backwoodsman 19 Jan 23 - 07:18 AM
GUEST,Oriel 19 Jan 23 - 08:16 AM
GUEST,henryp 19 Jan 23 - 08:43 AM
Dave the Gnome 19 Jan 23 - 08:47 AM
Rigby 19 Jan 23 - 03:07 PM
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Subject: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Rigby
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 04:23 PM

I've been learning an unusual version of Geordie in the Greig / Duncan collection called The Lady o' Gight. Can anyone advise on how the place names should be pronounced?

Gight -- "geet"?
Ythanside -- "eethanside"?

Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 04:51 PM

Gight -- "geet"? I think this is correct and it's the same place referred to in the Lass O' Fyvie O.
Ythanside -- "eethanside"? This is pronounced eye-than-side.


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 05:09 PM

In "Dinner Ladies" Victoria Wood's character, Brenda, reckons all Scottish place names are spelled Ecclefechan and pronounced Kirkcudbright -D


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Joe_F
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 05:35 PM

Except Auchtermuchty.


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST,Lang Johnnie More
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 05:55 PM

Both here - Jock knows all - I heard "gicht" [ 34 secs ] :

https://youtu.be/SvxLPj3XIak


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 17 Jan 23 - 08:23 PM

I've only heard Gight pronounced exactly as it's spelt - guttural fricative "gh".


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: leeneia
Date: 18 Jan 23 - 05:11 PM

Hold up a minute, Jack. Let's see. G can be hard or soft. gh can be silent or German as in ich or ach. I can be short or long. So Gight can be

Jite
Gite
Jicht
Gicht

Supposing it's truly phonetic and we pronounce both the g and h, we can have:

Gig-ht
Gij-ht
Jig-ht
Jij-ht


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jan 23 - 06:03 PM

https://youtu.be/jEdXBXZeqUU

https://youtu.be/q9tjuI2JNnM

https://youtu.be/i1KNdFOhVOE

a href="https://youtu.be/W1BZQZosCbw">https://youtu.be/W1BZQZosCbw

Fit mair dae ye need ?


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Rigby
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 04:17 AM

Wow. Thanks everyone, that's super helpful.


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 06:45 AM

could be an interesting theme this- how would a Sassenach pronounce MILNGAVIE or a Jock pronounce MEOPHAM?

be quick, try & get in before the postcard frompatriot Mrs Trellis of North Wales


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 07:01 AM

Happisburgh to you sir
Regards
Siobhan Cholmondely


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 07:18 AM

”how would a Sassenach pronounce MILNGAVIE”

I’m a Sassenach, and I would pronounce it ‘Mul-gye’.


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST,Oriel
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 08:16 AM

'Woolfardisworthy' - as pronounced by anyone outside Devon?


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 08:43 AM

And Lomeshaye in Burnley?


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 08:47 AM

I will not mention Barnoldswick (Barnick)


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: Rigby
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 03:07 PM

But are there any ballads about Meopham or Lomeshaye?


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Subject: RE: Help with Scottish place names please?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jan 23 - 05:25 AM

you are just being devious here, Rigby- I would quote from one of the many ballads about these places, but then you could work out the pronunciation


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