BS: We are all electric

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 03:42 PM

There is news of a room-temperature superconductor but results have not been able to be duplicated so I smell a rat.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 03:03 PM

I'd say controversial subjects are my forte for the advancement of knowledge.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 02:59 PM

Gosh, what a worrier you are.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 01:11 PM

Don't fret your pretty little head about it dear. What melatonin can do is help you clean up some of the damage. At best escaping Micro radiation is going to be impossible for some, and less than 50% at the other extreme by living in your Faraday cage.

The many effects of non ionizing radiation on the life processes of a living cell go far beyond mere heating and are not understood in their entirety. Is your router going to effect life? Probably but cell towers are even worse.

Believing cell phone manufacturers is not a wise scientific approach.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 12:03 PM

I'm still waiting to hear you relate your cancer deaths to something, and then your mobile phone use to something.

Microwave radiation (isn't "radiation" an emotive word?) is non-ionising and, despite lots of angst and research, has not been definitively linked to cancer at the exposure levels that nearly all of us ever experience. That is not the case with the levels of exposure associated with sun beds or the carcinogens in tobacco. Still, if you want to scare us with your microwave notions, I won't be impressed and will continue to enjoy life in the open, while you contemplate hiding away in a metal box.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 11:04 AM

We thought tanning booths were safe from 1960 to 2005
Cigarettes took much longer.
Jus sayin

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 10:57 AM

I am exposing some relationships here. It is up to individuals to read between the lines. I have not stated a conclusion because frankly, the EM effects take about 10 years to appear and we have not looked deeply into the connection. Money Talks. Facts whisper.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 10:52 AM

10.33 post: no context.

10.50 post: so...?

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 10:50 AM

In 1990, the number of mobile users was around 11 million; by 2020, that number had risen to a whopping 2.5 billion. Jan 12, 2023

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 10:33 AM

The number of cancer deaths increased by 75%

More people than ever before die from cancer – 10.1 million in 2019. In 1990, 5.8 million people died from cancer. This means we have seen a 75% increase in the global number of cancer deaths.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 08:54 AM

Recent advances in the effects of microwave radiation on brains

Wei-Jia Zhi, Li-Feng Wang & Xiang-Jun Hu
Military Medical Research volume 4, Article number: 29 (2017)

[Long article looking at this in-depth and with plenty of references: here's the conclusion]:

Conclusion

With the popularity of microwave technology, microwave effects on the human body have become a common topic of concern, and the central nervous system is recognized as a target organ system that is sensitive to microwave radiation. However, to date, with the exception of high-power microwave radiation, which has widely established hazardous effects, the biological effects of microwaves remain controversial. In epidemiology, there is no conclusive evidence showing that microwaves have carcinogenic effects. Concurrently, the discovery that microwaves have positive biological effects has presented new challenges for research and applications in this field. The results of EEG and analyses of the structure of the brain after radiation have also confirmed the influence of microwaves. Studies have extensively explored the underlying mechanisms by which microwaves influence learning and memory functions, especially synaptic structures and functions, oxidative stress and apoptosis, protein synthesis, genes and individual susceptibility and energy metabolism. Previous studies have produced a large amount of information, and some progress has been made in theory, but the mechanisms have not yet been fully determined, and many points are still disputed. The largest problem in these studies is that they used different parameters, such as the frequency, modulation, power density and irradiation time, to apply microwave radiation, in addition to using a variety of research methods. Therefore, their reproducibility and comparability are poor. To determine the precise dose-effect relationship between microwave radiation and its biological effects, further detailed studies must be performed.

In light of this you may wish to revisit your rather garbled post.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 08:10 AM

"The absorption rate of microwaves is based on military personnel.
In Europe and Australia, it is 2, in the US it is 1.6"

This doesn't mean anything.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 08:07 AM

If you have looked into this issue of man made frequencies causing biological effects including cancer clusters around cell phone masts you have been warned. Similar to Petro companies producing climate denier 'science', there are phone companies denying electro health concerns.
The absorption rate of microwaves is based on military personnel.
In Europe and Australia, it is 2, in the US it is 1.6 - and that only measures the brain tissue heating effects. An 8 year old skull is much thinner than adult military personnel and is far more affected.
IMO we do not know the full effects.

There are mitigating measures you can do such as taking melatonin to help heal damage by removing free radicles.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 07:31 AM

A 7.83 Hz frequency is an alpha/theta brainwave frequency in the human brain. Alpha/Theta brainwave frequency is relaxed, dreamy, sleepy state, that is also when cell regeneration and healing happens.Jun 12, 2018

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 07:27 AM

The Earth's magnetic field is 7.83 Hz. Bird's and bees use this frequency for navigation. Cryptogram proteins detect these waves even in our cells.
As Man made frequencies crowd our ionosphere, birds, bees, and butterflies' navigation gets distorted at very low intensities.
God knows what it does to us. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30889982/
All life is electromagnetically active and sensitive.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: robomatic
Date: 14 Mar 23 - 03:04 PM

I heard some of this on public radio and found it utterly fascinating. Probably going to obtain the literature. Thanks for the links.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Mar 23 - 12:19 PM

The word mystical doesn't appear in the science;,book or my review,
The unknown is mystical to some idiots I suppose.

Regenerative properties in some animals and not others can grow another entire limb. I have no idea if research in this area will lead to larger regeneration systems.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Mar 23 - 11:54 AM

That electric field doesn't "appear" around an injury, it is created by the biochemistry of the healing process. Atoms are polar. Molecules wouldn'texist, otherwise. No mystic nothing.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 23 - 06:55 AM

Thats good, learning goes hand in hand with predictability.
I suppose book reports are predictable too.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Mar 23 - 11:39 PM

Donuel, you are becoming very predictable. Surprise me sometime?

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 Mar 23 - 02:57 AM

When I graze my legs they seem to heal for ever now. I guess my generator is running on empty much of the time.

Hang on........... I see a packet of biscuits. Time for re-charge.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Mar 23 - 12:02 PM

I've played with Kirlian photography and once saw a person's faint electric field. In middle school, I did the Galvani experiment.
Dave you must be a Matrix fan.

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Mar 23 - 07:45 AM

I hope the mega rich don't realise this Donuel. They will have poor people wired up to the national grid to power their lifestyles...

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Mar 23 - 06:46 AM

npr interview:
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/08/1161897128/how-researchers-are-trying-to-harness-the-electricity-in-the-human-body

Subject: RE: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Mar 23 - 09:37 PM

The bioelectric revolution starts here. https://www.amazon.com/We-Are-Electric-200-Year-Bioelectric-ebook/dp/B0B38SVPBZ

Subject: BS: We are all electric
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Mar 23 - 08:21 PM

When you cut yourself or break a bone a strong electric field appears at the site of the injury and dissipates as healing goes on. It is measurable and bones have long been known to heal faster in an added electric field.
Hold onto your hats, we are going beyond DNA. There is no spacial information in DNA so where do our forms and features come from and where are they encoded?
We are electric and our shape is formed with an electric template. Every cell in our bodies—bones, skin, nerves, muscle—has a voltage, like a tiny battery. It is the reason our brain can send signals to the rest of our body, how we develop in the womb, and why our body knows to heal itself from injury. When bioelectricity goes awry, illness, deformity, and cancer can result. But if we can control or correct this bioelectricity, the implications for our health are remarkable: an undo switch for cancer that could flip malignant cells back into healthy ones; the ability to regenerate cells, organs, even limbs; to slow aging and so much more. The next scientific frontier might be decrypting the bioelectric code, much the way we did the genetic code. Right now we can alter the electric field in a tadpole and grow an eyeball on the frog's butt. Imagine having an eye in the hollow at the back of your upper neck/lower skull and having an eye on the back of your head :-}

Yet the field is still emerging from two centuries of skepticism and entanglement with medical quackery, all stemming from an 18th-century scientific war about the nature of electricity between Luigi Galvani (father of bioelectricity, famous for shocking frogs) and Alessandro Volta (inventor of the battery).

In We Are Electric, award-winning science writer Sally Adee takes readers through the thrilling history of bioelectricity and into the future: from the Victorian medical charlatans claiming to use electricity to cure everything from paralysis to diarrhea, to the advances helped along by the giant axons of squids, and finally to the brain implants and electric drugs that await us—and the moral implications therein.