Max is Testing

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Max
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 11:59 AM

I am testing a temporary measure that tags any messages posts by non-members (no cookie) to prevent from using others' names.

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Max
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:05 PM

I hope it will work

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,max
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:05 PM

indeed it does! well done

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:07 PM

Pretty snifty, Max.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:09 PM

It's very sad that such a thing is necessary. I wouldn't even think of using someone else's name.

cheers, Auxiris

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST, Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:10 PM

Say, Max, Just for the sake of appearance, can you put a nonbreaking space in after the comma, like I've done? (I hope it works)
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:14 PM

Looks cool Max....I want to see if I come up as a memeber....Here goes

Spaw

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:15 PM

This will probably pick me up as imitating myself! I sometimes log in from another computer without registering my membership and cookie! Ah Well....

Regards

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:15 PM

HEY!!!! Far out!!!

Excellent job Wiz.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Tony Burns
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:17 PM

I don't have my cookie set on this machine yet today.

Max, How about stealing an idea from mail and suffix "(may be forged)"?

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Margo
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:20 PM

Can't someone just change their cookie and post under another name? I'm sorry about being a technical dum-dum, but If I'm a member on my own machine, can't I just change my name and post? (what a bother that would be) Margo

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: sophocleese
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:20 PM

Well I'll jump on the bandwagon and test this too.

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Áine
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:21 PM

We always knew you were a wiz kid, Max! This is brilliant!

-- Áine

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Áine
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:24 PM

Here's my part of the test . . . Is it me or is it memorex?

-- Áine

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:26 PM

I think Max has that one already taken care of, Margo. The registration does not allow you to register under a name that's already being used. If you change your name on your registration, it changes your name on all the messages you've posted as a registered member. Max is a pretty smart cookie.
I'll be more impressed if he can get my esthetic nonbreaking space in....
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:26 PM

Margo, if you post as a member but have changed your cookie to a new nickname, all your past posts will follow that change of name. You can't do a one off posting that way.

Jon

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:28 PM

That's wonderful, Max. Thanks.

This is for real!:-)

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,T in Oklahoma (Okiemockbird)
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:30 PM

Can one register more than one name under the same return email address ?

It's a shame that after such a long stretch of self-regulation and mutual respect, someone had to try the trick of impostature.

T.

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:30 PM

Margo, you can log out, and post under another name, like Spaw does for Cletus, sometimes, but with this new wonderthing Max is testing, you couldn't use a nickname already used here, withtout being tagged as an imposter.

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: clare_s
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:32 PM

soory - going on from what Margo said - does that mean two people can't use the same computer for mudcat?

Clare

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: fulurum
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:37 PM

testing 123 testing 123

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,momnopp
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:40 PM

I'm at work and I thought I had a cookie on this machine, but I could be mistooken. . .we shall see!

JudyO (the real me)

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: JedMarum
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:42 PM

testing, one, two, three ...

check, 1, 2, 3

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: JedMarum
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:43 PM

hmmm, how do ya drop yer cookie???

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,cookielessLiamDevlin
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:46 PM

testing

check, check<><>ahem.

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,CLETUS
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:46 PM

Ise jez checkin heer....aint no big deal liken when Paw flares one off or sumpin.

CLETUS

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: MK
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:47 PM

Max, there is also something else you could do, and I'm assuming you know a little about programming and CGI scripts already.

You know how on CGI input forms (ie: Feedback Forms sent via Recipient's email, etc.) that are on many business related websites, there is a statement you can add (which is invisible to the sender, but not to the recipient or the recipient's log) that gives you the sender's IP address as well as the browser they're using and other info.

Would it not be possible to create a small script that logs all IP addresses, and then when you have spammers on here, you can block their IP addresses...thus preventing them from posting? While it won't deter someone who is determined to post here (using an IP masking program or other hacking program) it might be worth a thought.....or is this too radical as far as censorship goes.....?

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,cookielessLiamDevlin
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:48 PM

Hey wow - Max, cool stuff dude! this appears to be a simple, elegant solution!

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Dani
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:48 PM

OK, but what if someone wants to post but isn't sure about becoming a member (like me the first, oh, 2 or 3 years). Can you give them a more welcoming moniker, perhaps GUEST or VISITOR?

Dani

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:48 PM

Liam, go to Quick Links and log out, then come back in

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Skipjack
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:50 PM

Whilst I don't have an earthly what Max has done, it seems to have lanced the boil.

Well done

Skipjack (non alias user)

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: JedMarum
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:51 PM

yep, Kat. That worked thanks!


thepreviouslyuncookiedLiamwhoisnowrestoredtothecokkiedLiam

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Mbo
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:51 PM

This is cool, I'll probably keep showing up as a non-member. You see, I clear out my Temporary Internet Files everyday...so out goes my cookie! Does anyone know if there is a way to make your cookie read only so it doesn't get chucked out with the trash?

--Mbo (really the real Mbo)

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Max
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:53 PM

We do track IP addresses, and a few other things as well. Its not so easy to block them though, cause many IP's are dynamically generated each time one connects.

The Login (reset cookie) and Logout feature lets you share a computer with another user.

I like guest, let me change that.

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Okiemockbird
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:58 PM

testing GUEST. T.

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Blackcat2
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 12:58 PM

Sounds Great Max!

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: annamill
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 01:02 PM

Thank you Max! Another near tragedy avoided. Sorry you had to do it.

Love, annap

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Skipjack
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 01:04 PM

Eaten up all the biscuits, am I still a guest?

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,Skipjack
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 01:06 PM

Guess I am

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 01:19 PM

That fixed it. A new identity. By way of explaination, Skipjack is my boat, and K8 is her sail number. See you out there!

Skipjack (RESIDENT)

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST,  Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 01:32 PM

Aw, Max, if you can change "nonmember to "guest," how 'bout an eye for esthetics and make it Guest, &nbsp;&nbsp; - wouldn't that make it prettier? Or is there a reason why that won't work?
-Joe, who has much to learn about HTML and wants to know if his idea would work-

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 01:43 PM

Now even anonymous posters are guests!!!! ;-)

Jon

Subject: Max is Getting Frustrated
From: Max
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 01:53 PM

Joe and everyone, this is just a temp solution till I can do it right. Did you read my first post or just jump down here and started posting? TEMPORARY! Don't get used to this and don't bother making recommendations. I'd sure rather be spending my time doing my real job and maybe something like, say... discussing music? I spent 2 hours this morning dealing with this and the NMPA. This is not at all what I want to be doing with my time. Yada, yada, yada, I just deleted the last few lines of this post which really may have caused a fear of the future of the mudcat. See what your doing to me? What the hell is going on around here lately? Everyone just chill and talk about music for christ sakes.

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Test
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 02:15 PM

Curiosity has got the better of me

Jon

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 02:21 PM

Well, Max, it may be a temporary solution, but it approaches elegance. I think you done good.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Margo
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 02:22 PM

Skipjack, that's gross. The boil has been lanced. The mind recoils! Margo :o)

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 02:25 PM

Yep, it worked and maybe illustrates a point. It doesn't matter what you do, there is always some asshole (in this case me) who will find a way (and I know this is only a temporary solution given by Max). Isn't it sad though that things have reached such a pitch that friendly places like Mudcat have to look for methods to stop imposters etc.

Jon

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Áine
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 02:47 PM

Andy G. posted this link over on the BS: Who Do You Want To Be Today? thread. It explains, in my opinion, what has happened to us here. Apparently, there are organized groups of people who perpetrate the kind of things like what happened to Mudcat last night as a *hobby* . . . go figure. Please go and read this information and let's follow the advice for dealing with these 'trolls' when and if they show up again.

-- Áine

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: Night Owl
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 03:11 PM

Max.....BREATHE!!!! You done good...well worth your efforts....with apologies...two hours of hell/angst seems worth the LIFETIME of music and friends you provide us here, please be patient with our "foibles". For me, its done, THANKS!. Now, mom says....go listen to Musicman's cd for a bit....helps with personal regrouping! For sure we'll all repay our debt to you with another good song!

Subject: RE: Max is Testing
From: bob schwarer
Date: 19 Jan 00 - 03:15 PM

test???

Bob S