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Tech: Windows 10 clone disk

Dave the Gnome 11 Feb 24 - 09:47 AM
Stilly River Sage 11 Feb 24 - 11:03 AM
Dave the Gnome 11 Feb 24 - 11:09 AM
Stilly River Sage 11 Feb 24 - 11:20 AM
Dave the Gnome 11 Feb 24 - 11:56 AM
Dave the Gnome 13 Feb 24 - 03:42 AM
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Subject: Tech: Windows 10 clone disk
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 09:47 AM

Here is a bit of a puzzle. I got a USB 2 x SATA disk dock for Christmas. It works fine and the other day I got round to cloning my Windows 10 system disk (using Clonezilla). It worked fine and when the system rebooted it would not online the cloned disk as, understandably, it had the same signature as the boot disk. Great - Looks like I am on a winner. However...

When I disconcected the existing system disk and tried to boot from the clone, it went through the motions but then, when it got to the stage it usualy boots to Win10, it just hung. I tried it both connected via USB and direct to SATA. The bios sees the disk and recognises it is a boot disk but it just don't boot :-(

Now, here is the interesting thing. I have a mini HP desktop elsewhere so I tried the clone disk, connected via the USB dock, on that. Guess what - It booted and ran fine! WTF!?!?!

I should mentiomn that the source disk is an SSD while the target clone is an old HD. Is that something to do with it? If I do want to clone the system disk, and I don't really need to as I have other back ups, should I buy a new SSD? Is it worth it anyway?

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10 clone disk
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 11:03 AM

Did you reset the boot sequence of drives in the BIOS so it goes far enough to find the clone? Is it stopping on another non-OS drive before it reaches it?

There are a couple of external drives I've used with past desktops that I realized were somehow appearing as bootable in the BIOS but they didn't have the OS. The computer would hang instead of booting if they were powered up when I turned on the machine even though the C drive was listed first. They weren't supposed to be in the BIOS sequence but somehow they were, or it read them also as C?

SSDs are pretty inexpensive these days. External hard drives are pretty affordable also. The challenge becomes knowing which is which by labeling them for future use (or set aside as a backup).


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Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10 clone disk
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 11:09 AM

I can chose the appropriate disk to boot from by interupting the bios boot so that should not be an issue.

And, yes, I can get a 500Gb SSD for about £30 but I am wondering if it is worth it.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10 clone disk
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 11:20 AM

Do you use the "Shut down" setting from the start button? My older HD won't boot properly if I use that; I have to push the On/Off button to turn it off without writing the status to the drive, whatever it normally saves about the machine status using the shut down mode.

If I use the on/off button then when I push it again the machine boots fine. I am assuming it's because I have been too lazy to go into the bios and reset the boot order. (I added an SSD to this computer a couple of years after I bought it, and it worked fine until it didn't.)

If I forget and use the shutdown mode on the old machine, the next time I turn it on the twirly doesn't appear telling me it is booting so it goes nowhere; I then use the on/off button to turn it off and immediately push it again to restart and it boots.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10 clone disk
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 11:56 AM

I think you may be on to something. The HP-Mini is running Linux so doesn't have another Windows disk to update with anything. I tried 'crashing' this one with the power switch and it did seem to boot with the clone but on investigation I am not sure. It certainly did something different so I shall have a ponder and a play. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10 clone disk
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Feb 24 - 03:42 AM

I managed to part boot the clone when I used the uefi version of the disk path. Unfortunately it said it needed repairing but wouldn't repair it :-( I think I will spend the £30 on another SSD to save my sanity!


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