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2024 Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman

Joe Offer 06 Jul 24 - 11:16 PM
GerryM 06 Jul 24 - 11:40 PM
leeneia 07 Jul 24 - 12:22 AM
MoorleyMan 07 Jul 24 - 06:48 AM
Joe Offer 07 Jul 24 - 08:10 PM
Waddon Pete 08 Jul 24 - 10:56 AM
Felipa 18 Jul 24 - 05:28 AM
Joe Offer 18 Jul 24 - 03:21 PM
GUEST,Guest Joan F 18 Jul 24 - 04:20 PM
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Subject: Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jul 24 - 11:16 PM

I got a report that Mudcatter Joe Fineman died. As far as I can tell, he was last at the Mudcat Singaround on June 10 and sang "A Horse Named Bill." he has seemed feeble lately, but he kept on keepin' on. What a good guy he was. I believe he was 86 years old, still singin' almost to the day he died. He was at Mudcat for over 20 years, and posted frequently.
Can anybody confirm the report of his death or give us any information?
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: 2024 Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman???
From: GerryM
Date: 06 Jul 24 - 11:40 PM

Joe, sorry, I don't have any information, but I'll agree with your assessment of him as a good guy. Let's hope the report of his death has been greatly exaggerated.

I don't have any record of anyone singing A Horse Named Bill at the singaround since I started keeping records in November of 2020. Joe sang I Wish You Were Here (Malvina Reynolds) on 10 June. He might have sung another song in the first round, before I joined.


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Subject: RE: 2024 Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman???
From: leeneia
Date: 07 Jul 24 - 12:22 AM

I'll miss dear Joe. I saw him at the Singaround often.


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Subject: RE: 2024 Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman???
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 07 Jul 24 - 06:48 AM

I too really hope this isn't the bad news it appears, Joe.

Checkin' back on the entries in the chat file for 10th June, I discover that Joe Fineman did indeed sing two songs on that date. He sang A Horse Named Bill at around 21:13 UK time (Joe posted the lyrics), and I Wish You Were Here (Malvina Reynolds) at around 22:46 UK time. Thus proving the virtue of good record-keeping and the chat log! (LOL!)


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Subject: RE: 2024 Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman???
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jul 24 - 08:10 PM

I got confirmation from the Boston people that Joe has died. He lived a good life, and it was delightful to have him with us at the Mudcat Singaround for so long. May he rest in peace.


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Subject: RE: 2024 Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 08 Jul 24 - 10:56 AM

I am very sorry to record that Joe Fineman has died. He was a staunch supporter of the Mudcat Song Circle and many of us came to know him and enjoy the songs he chose to share with us. Often they were old favourites that had been neglected over the years and it was always good to hear them again. Rest in peace Jim. You will be missed.


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Subject: RE: 2024 Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman
From: Felipa
Date: 18 Jul 24 - 05:28 AM

Monday night Mudcat sings are not the same without Joe Fineman and Laura Martin, two stalwards deceased within a short period of time. We still have a good sing, but they are missed.


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Subject: RE: 2024 Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Jul 24 - 03:21 PM

I really enjoyed Joe's presence at the Mudcat Singaround and his educated posts over 20 years, but I really didn't know Joe. Can anybody tell us about his history. He was a fascinating person, and he sure knew a lot about folk music.


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Subject: RE: 2024 Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman
From: GUEST,Guest Joan F
Date: 18 Jul 24 - 04:20 PM

I don't know that much of Joe's life story, but I can fill in a little. His father was Jewish at least in name, mother not, Joe wasn't raised Jewish. He live in Boston area a long time but not his whole life. He went to MIT & various other smarty-pants places, studying physics, as you could probably tell from some of his songs.

There was a time he went to live on a commune in Virgina, which amazed me 'cause he didn't seem like a commune-type person, but also because I knew the founder of this eek-BF Skinner-based commune, Kat Kincaid, from Sacred Harp singing. I drove with her to several deep-south singings. I didn't know about the Skinner thing 'til she told me.

She's the only person I know I know personally who got an obit in the New York Times.

The reason I know anything at all about Joe is his talking as I drove him to the T from the Somerville Armory singings & the Charlestown Navy Yard Shanty-&-sea singings, before Covid.

If I was a better human I'd have driven him home to Malden or Medford or wherever he lived, but the roads in Boston are such that sometimes the only way in, or the only straight way anyway,is a pretty frightening parkway & I just wasn't up for that.

Joe said he'd driven for a few minutes in Boston, then never again.

It was Joe I sat next to at the Burns Suppers, before Covid. And the shanty people would sometimes go to Mary Chungs in Central Square, now sadly closed, when that singing was at MIT, also in Central Square.

Sometimes they wouldn't show up & Joe & I would have dinner anyway.

He sang better on-line than he did in person, which surprised me, as he never struck me as a nervous singer, but maybe he was.

All the regular public singings in Boston are run by people who say you have to sing songs with choruses. This irks me no end, not that I dislike choruses! & I haven't been back to the indoor Somerville Armory singing after it started again after Covid. Joe said he had. I'm not catching Covid (I'm diabetic so immunosupressed) to sing chorus songs.


I hope Joe didn't catch anything there.

Maybe more later if I think of something. Glad the thread hasn't yet disappeared from my ability to latch on to it.


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Subject: RE: 2024 Obit: Mudcatter Joe Fineman
From: GUEST,Guest Joan F
Date: 18 Jul 24 - 04:45 PM

For anyone who knows Boston area saying you shouldn't need a ride to the T from the Somerville Armory, Joe needed a ride to the Green Line so he could connect to the Orange Line.

There are more Green Line stations now than there were pre-Covid.

Its Boston, its complicated, what can I say. Yes, the Red Line in Davis Sq, 1/2 a mile or so from the Armory, does connect to the Green Line.

Eventually.


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