Tune Req: help me identify the tunes

Subject: Tune Req: help me identify Scottish tunes
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Oct 24 - 07:14 AM

I came across a youtube channel, some guy composes folk metal, i liked the melodies, contacted him, asked if the stuff was original by him, he said 'not much' and that for instance in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icHbuQA_bho composition consists of Scottish traditional tunes but he already forgot their original titles and sources. I remembered about this forum thought somebody might help identify?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: help me identify the tunes
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Oct 24 - 10:22 AM

I don't recognize anything. The strathspey after about 5 minutes in sounds like it ought to be a known tune but I think it's like similar Scottish-influenced bits by John Surman, Peter Maxwell Davies and Lyell Cresswell - fire off a descending pentatonic line in a strathspey rhythm and hope.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: help me identify the tunes
From: Helen
Date: 12 Oct 24 - 06:34 PM

Interesting video, Guest Date: 12 Oct 24 - 07:14 AM. One of my favourite songs is Nothing Else Matters by Metallica which not only sounds good when they perform it but also sounds beautiful on Celtic harp.

Sorry, but I can't identify the tune on your video link.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: help me identify the tunes
From: GUEST,op
Date: 12 Oct 24 - 08:27 PM

i'm the op. by now i actually guessed that the tunes in the tracks on that channel are original by the author, whatever he said to me, and even guessed who he is, but that's another story.

and yes i too find the second comment in this thread very unusual for mudcat forum. i used to go here like 10 years ago when studied english ballads as a hobby, and don't remember such vibes here

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The rude content added no useful content so was removed, as was the response. Helen's useful answer still appears. Anonymous posts from trolls are best ignored then they can be removed without disturbing the rest of the posts. ---mudelf

Subject: RE: Tune Req: help me identify the tunes
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Oct 24 - 08:30 PM

Ah Helen, you may be well meaning.. but this is likely a faker, who is desperate for some views. The story sounds dodgy and implausible and there is nothing identifiably authentic in the music. It's likely just someone using Mudcat to try and get a few views to their channel by raising some mythical query. It may well be AI created music, it may be real - it is real drivel. Very little is real these days, and it's difficult to believe anyone when there are so many scams. and people who want you to click on to their music out of desperation. Note the original poster is anonymous, and the videos had next to no views last time I looked. So I shall now bugger off, having given an opinion. If others want to waste time on a likely hoax, so be it.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: help me identify the tunes
From: GUEST,op
Date: 12 Oct 24 - 09:04 PM

of course i can't prove that my story is real and i am not the maker of those tracks, but i wouldn't remember about this forum as a place to inquire if the stuff on youtube didn't sound authentic. some parts of the song on my link blatantly remind of famous tunes like 'Haughs O' Cromdale' and i still believe much of the stuff by that guy might be borrowed from the authentic repertoire. in another track he sent to me there 'Bleacher lassie o' Kelvinhaugh' is evidently recognizable. https://vocaroo.com/15qpRPJJrlPt

Subject: RE: Tune Req: help me identify the tunes
From: Helen
Date: 12 Oct 24 - 10:27 PM

The idea of mixing the DNA of different music genres is interesting to me. This mix of Celtic and heavy metal brings to my mind the online music videos I stumbled on which mixes Mediaeval music styles with modern pop songs.