New CD about boat building - M. Garvey

Subject: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: GUEST,Guest MG
Date: 04 Dec 24 - 05:52 PM

Hi. I am back after several years away. I am working on a new CD and have some questions. I probably have enough songs but let me know if something strikes your fancy or you have written one. Could be room for one or two more people. Song must not have copyrights..either trad or you or your friend wrote it and would give permissions. This makes life much much easier.

I have questions on copyrights. We want to include figurehead carver. I believe a long ago person wrote words and Dick Swain wrote tune. Does anyone know how to go about copyright?

I know I said no copyrights but I probably will have to do a couple. Other one is Shipyard Apprentice. Some say Archie Fisher, some give a cowriter and tune by someone else. I really want those two songs for sure.

Other is Blue Nose by Stan Rogers. If there is anything I hate worse than regular copyrights..like USA ones...it is Canadian ones. I don't think I have it in me. I respect copyrights but I also try not to get entangled with them. But if you can suggest something for this one too please let me know.

Would love, if room, a few songs in other languages. Basque? French? who knows. m. garvey

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Dec 24 - 06:23 PM

Mary, I'm so glad to see you back and working on a musical project! I've wondered how you're doing.

If there are any of my father's songs you'd like to use you're more than welcome, just let me know. Did Stan James or Bob Nelson write any songs? Stan in particular was all about boats.

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: GUEST,Guest MG
Date: 04 Dec 24 - 08:15 PM

Thanks. I know your father wrote some humorous songs, like navigating by cow, but I can't think of any that refer to boat building. Stan might have sung some but I will think and especially about copyright permissions, my bugaboo.

What do I do about Dick Swain writing a tune for Figurehead Carver?

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: GerryM
Date: 05 Dec 24 - 04:21 AM

I have a recording of Shipyard Apprentice, performed by Alistair Hulett. The liner notes attribute the song to Archie Fisher.

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Dec 24 - 04:42 AM

Re: The Shipyard Apprentice - According to https://www.tobarandualchais.co.uk/, the lyrics are by Archie Fisher and Norman Buchan, music by Bobby Campbell.

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Dec 24 - 01:54 AM

My pleasure…

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: GUEST,Julia L
Date: 07 Dec 24 - 09:45 PM

My partner Fred Gosbee wrote a song about bargaining with a boat builder for a new boat and ending up marrying the builder's daughter
"Cappy John's Bride"

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Dec 24 - 11:44 PM

Hi, Mary -
"Bluenose" is registered at Songfile.com, so all you do is go to songfile and pay for a license. It's not horribly expensive.

I'm still waiting for a reply from John Roberts, and I'm guessing he will say the same thing as Dave Webber and Ani Fentiman - that Dick Swain informally gave them verbal permission before he died, and that there's no evidence that Dick registered a copyright on the melody.

"Shipyard Apprentice" is also registered at songfile.com, so I'd suggest getting a license there.

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: Mary G
Date: 08 Dec 24 - 12:09 AM

Thanks. I am not interested in Bluenose, if you mean by Stan Rogers. I will not do canadian copyrights unless it is the best song in the world. Maybe not even then.it is a legal minefield.

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Dec 24 - 12:37 AM

Hi, Mary - "Bluenose" was written in Canada, but it is registered in the US and you can get a license from songfile.com. If you need help paying the license fees or getting the licenses, I know people who would be glad to help you.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: Mary G
Date: 08 Dec 24 - 03:20 PM

I am trying to get into songfile to register shipyard apprentice. I am going to pass on Bluenose. Julia, I would be honored to include Fred's song, and at this point I have to say space available. There probably be space but i am waiting to hear from others already theoretically included.

Songfile is not sending me a confirmation number like it should. Will try again later.

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: Mary G
Date: 15 May 25 - 01:06 AM

Well, good news. I received the CDs today. I really really like it. Thanks everyone for helping with the copyright etc. It all worked out in the end.

It will be $10 plus shipping, which is cheap in USA and horrid outside USA. But I might be able to talk some Canadians into mailing into Canada if I prepay.

It is about boat building. If you are interested in maritime music, you really should buy it, says me. 19 songs on it. Some are new and some are well known.

I will be at Folklife in Seattle. I will see what I can sell there, plus give to people on it.

to purchase just email me at [e-mail]

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: sciencegeek
Date: 16 May 25 - 09:58 AM

so great to hear you again...

Mike missed seeing you as well

PM me with email so we can chat

did Dean Calin ever locate you to add you into his maritime music directory..

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: sciencegeek
Date: 16 May 25 - 10:01 AM

you can link in from Lee Murdock's post on MMDI

https://seashanties4all.com/home/what-is-maritime-music-shanties/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKIcaBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFKN24wVnFnV3YxampXSTNoAR4BuIf5IOdW8pzxZxifhbCgULQBH7UExK0sFV66aVeVnCYi72AMnFc3jZQc9g_aem_lHcjODwRCOSfgUiQYekxpw

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: sciencegeek
Date: 16 May 25 - 10:11 AM

too late for this, but Mike wrote this song for Danny O'Flaherty after seeing him at Mystic and later in New London...

Cedar and Oak about the currachs used for fishing and now racing.

CEDAR AND OAK
Cedar and oak, canvas and tar
That’s how you build a currach,
To build a boat as your fathers before,
And to set it upon the wide water.

There’s many the song of a fisherman’s life,
And many a story of a fisherman’s wife,
Who scans the horizon from morning ‘til night;
And when darkness descends, she hangs out the light.

Danny tweaked it and recorded it, but still used Mike's tune and chorus

I'll send you more later

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: sciencegeek
Date: 16 May 25 - 10:45 AM

I did find on MMDI, but your new CD is not listed and I can't get email link to work, as usual so if you can pm me that please

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 16 May 25 - 10:58 AM

Thanks. Would have loved to have included Mike's song..I'll be linking here and there but prob after Memorial Day. That is my big day for selling..just trying to break even is all. So glad this is complete. I love the music. Two Cicely? Fox Smith poems put to new music.

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 May 25 - 11:17 AM

Congratulations on finishing that, Mary! How many of these disks have you produced now? Do you still have your older ones for sale (do you have a list?)

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: sciencegeek
Date: 16 May 25 - 02:32 PM

Charlie Ipcar and Judy Barrow set this up for Mike

https://mikekennedysongs.com/index.htm

Subject: RE: New CD about boat building - M. Garvey
From: cnd
Date: 04 Jun 25 - 10:34 PM

Mary, got your CD in the mail today. It's beautifully packaged and well-made, and has good liner notes covering details of the songs included.

Out of curiosity, the CD is credited to "M. Garvey and Friends" -- who are the friends? Presumably, they're the secondary artists listed after each song, but I was curious if that was just singing credits or also instrumentation. Feel free to PM me or email if you/they would rather be anonymous, but there's some great musicianship and singing on there.

Here's a tracklist:

I BUILD ME A BOAT
A compilation of songs by maritime singers about building boats and their components


1. Lukey's Boat. Jean Geiger. (Trad). 2:42
2. Solder and Weld. Mary Garvey. 1:33
3. The Old Figurehead Carver. Gordon Bok. (Hiram Cody/Dick Swain). 4:25
4. Rosie the Riveter, Revisited. Linda Allen 2:45
5. They Made Sails. Chris Glanister. (Cicely Fox-Smith/Chris Glanister). 4:15
6. Lucky Me. Barry Delaney. 6:33
7. They're Tearing Up My Boat. Mary Garvey ("Davey Lowsten"). 1:46
8. Ketch Ceres. Heather Preston. (Cicely Fox-Smith/Heather Preston). 3:53
9. A Medal for Tom Lannon. Lynn Noel. 3:47
10. Boatbuilder. Janie Maneely. 3:22
11. Il Barcaiolo (The Boatmen). David Perasso. (Trad). 2:18
12. Too Late for the Breaking Yard. Larry Kaplan. 3:39
13. Shipyard Apprentice. Mary Garvey. (Archie Fisher/Bobby Campbell). 2:09
14. The Anchor. Matthew Moeller. 3:17
15. The Lowestoft Boat. Bruce Baker. (Rudyard Kipling/"Maid of Amst."). 2:51
16. Roll, Alabama, Roll. Steve Whinihan. (Frank Townsend/Trad). 2:48
17. The Ballad of Cappy John. Fred Gosbee. 3:57
18. Bonny Portmore. Mary Wilson. (Trad). 1:58
19. Dark Old Waters. Lynn Applegate. (Gordon Bok). 4:30