Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafesj

Post to this Thread - Printer Friendly - Home
Page: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]


Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup

Stilly River Sage 12 Feb 25 - 08:33 PM
Donuel 12 Feb 25 - 02:26 PM
Donuel 12 Feb 25 - 01:55 PM
Backwoodsman 12 Feb 25 - 01:15 AM
Donuel 11 Feb 25 - 08:15 PM
robomatic 11 Feb 25 - 05:09 PM
Backwoodsman 11 Feb 25 - 04:42 PM
Helen 11 Feb 25 - 02:49 PM
Backwoodsman 11 Feb 25 - 02:28 PM
Donuel 11 Feb 25 - 12:29 AM
Helen 10 Feb 25 - 05:32 PM
Donuel 10 Feb 25 - 04:52 PM
Sandra in Sydney 10 Feb 25 - 04:33 PM
Donuel 10 Feb 25 - 02:45 PM
Donuel 10 Feb 25 - 02:16 PM
MaJoC the Filk 10 Feb 25 - 12:28 PM
Donuel 10 Feb 25 - 10:33 AM
Backwoodsman 10 Feb 25 - 10:19 AM
MaJoC the Filk 10 Feb 25 - 09:52 AM
gillymor 10 Feb 25 - 09:32 AM
Donuel 10 Feb 25 - 08:47 AM
Donuel 10 Feb 25 - 07:09 AM
Dave the Gnome 10 Feb 25 - 06:56 AM
Donuel 10 Feb 25 - 06:52 AM
Stilly River Sage 09 Feb 25 - 06:32 PM
Helen 09 Feb 25 - 04:12 PM
Stilly River Sage 09 Feb 25 - 03:22 PM
Helen 09 Feb 25 - 03:16 PM
Stilly River Sage 09 Feb 25 - 02:54 PM
Helen 09 Feb 25 - 02:47 PM
Stilly River Sage 09 Feb 25 - 02:15 PM
Stilly River Sage 09 Feb 25 - 10:53 AM
Donuel 09 Feb 25 - 09:50 AM
Donuel 08 Feb 25 - 04:38 PM
Helen 08 Feb 25 - 01:52 PM
Donuel 08 Feb 25 - 12:53 PM
Stilly River Sage 08 Feb 25 - 10:54 AM
gillymor 08 Feb 25 - 10:05 AM
Donuel 08 Feb 25 - 09:37 AM
Donuel 08 Feb 25 - 09:27 AM
Donuel 08 Feb 25 - 09:25 AM
SPB-Cooperator 08 Feb 25 - 09:12 AM
keberoxu 07 Feb 25 - 06:59 PM
Bill D 07 Feb 25 - 05:55 PM
Helen 07 Feb 25 - 05:42 PM
Donuel 07 Feb 25 - 03:43 PM
Helen 07 Feb 25 - 12:27 PM
MaJoC the Filk 07 Feb 25 - 10:27 AM
gillymor 07 Feb 25 - 09:45 AM
Donuel 07 Feb 25 - 08:40 AM
Share Thread
more
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum Child
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:













Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Feb 25 - 08:33 PM

Trump has purged the artists who were on the board of the Kennedy Center and replaced them with his cronies. The only culture that will come out of there for the next four years will be mold and fungus.

The Great Kennedy Center Purge of 2025. This is from a Substack account called Closer to the Edge.
For years, Trump steered clear of the Kennedy Center like a vampire avoiding a crucifix. The annual Kennedy Center Honors, the Mark Twain Prize—those events were not his scene. Too much culture, too many people who could read without moving their lips. He was a man who thought steak should be well-done and that "Citizen Kane" was about having a really big house. High art and Trump mixed about as well as bath salts and a Florida Wal-Mart.

But now? Now he owns the place.

In a move so brazen it would make a banana republic dictator blush, Trump has appointed himself chairman of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts. That’s right—America’s supposed “cultural beacon” is now officially a stage for Trump’s vanity projects, a golden toilet for the arts. If there was ever a symbol for America’s rapid descent into an intellectually malnourished hellscape, this is it.

Read the rest at the link.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: Don't Look Up
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Feb 25 - 02:26 PM

Whoever is President after Trump will have to deal with the space rock formally named 2024 YR4. Scientists say it currently carries a 2% risk of making contact with Earth when it eventually reaches this part of the solar system on Dec. 22, 2032

Too bad the Earth Defense Agency was canceled


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Feb 25 - 01:55 PM

Trump has his own cryptocurrency which is about one in 10,000 cryptocurrencies out there. More bizarre is Melania who sold her eyes
as an NFT.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Feb 25 - 01:15 AM

Mrs Backwoodsperson and I were discussing the change of name of the Gulf of Mexico last night, and I suggested that ‘Gulf of New Gilead’ would be more appropriate. Quick as a flash (she’s sharp like that), she replied, “In which case, tRump would no longer be the POTUS, he’d be the PONG. Very appropriate!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Feb 25 - 08:15 PM

"54 40 or fight" was the last provocation, now the pathologic president says you can be a US subsidiary. What next, will he send the Palestinians to eastern Greenland? Big Daddy wants all the attention all the time.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: robomatic
Date: 11 Feb 25 - 05:09 PM

There has been much parboiling anger distributed throughout the population since well before TRMP. TRMP is an effect, not a cause.

It's a worldwide phenomenon. Think of all the Russian tanks with Zs on them.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Feb 25 - 04:42 PM

Helen, I think many, perhaps most, of the ‘Christians’ who voted for the Mango Mussolini couldn’t care less - they are so spellbound by him.

Says a lot about ‘Christians’ AFAIC.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 11 Feb 25 - 02:49 PM

BWM, thanks for posting that article. It says a lot about what I have been thinking and feeling about Trump and the cowards who either stand by him, or the cowards who refuse to take a stand against him.

And the Christians who voted for him, what are they thinking and feeling right now? Vindication or a sense of horror about what they have helped to bring about?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Feb 25 - 02:28 PM

Pete McMartin in the Vancouver Sun, 3rd February 2025…

”With the shocking messages about his plans for Gaza and the Palestinians, coupled with his ongoing threats of tarrifs and threats to making Canada the 51st state, Pete McMartin of the Vancouver Sun captures what most Canadians are feeling right now. Farewall “My American Cousin”.

“Goodbye, America.

It’s been nice knowing you.
Goodbye New York, and your Jewish delicatessens with corned beef sandwiches stacked as high as your skyline.

Goodbye Detroit, my boyhood neighbour, and so long to Tiger Stadium, the Detroit Institute of Arts and Motown.

Goodbye Bellingham, Seattle and Portland — how I’ll miss my Cascadian cousins with our shared Pacific sensibilities. And while I’m at it, goodbye to the cheap gas and shoreline cottages of Point Roberts, America’s appendix dangling just below the border not a mile from me. What was once so close has never been so far.

Goodbye Stag Leap’s Pinot Noir, Maker’s Mark bourbon, and Hebrew National hotdogs. My tastebuds mourn.

Goodbye to the cowards on both sides of the border who have demonstrated that whatever fidelity to democratic ideals they profess to have extends only so far as their self-interest. They should get a real job, say, in a chain gang.

Goodbye to anyone, again on both sides of the border, who bends the knee to Trump, rather than standing up to him, as any self-respecting person would and should, and telling him to piss off.

Goodbye to a culture that demands we bend the knee.

Goodbye languid vacations in Maui and Palm Springs. My next winter vacation will be in a sunny climate other than any America can offer, and preferably in a country the U.S. has treated as disdainfully as mine. I’ll have more than a few to pick from.

Most painful of all, goodbye to my American friends, some of whom I have known all my life, and some of whom I’ve collected along the way. I can cross your border but no longer wish to: Your Narcissist-in-Chief has decreed that my countrymen and I have the choice of becoming destitute, vassals or enemies. I’m choosing the latter

Meanwhile, your silence and the silence of all Americans in response to this aggression leaves me disheartened. That silence speaks volumes. I — we — have heard you loud and clear how little our friendship as a country means to you.

Goodbye to the image of America I once held dear — the America of Miles Davis and Cannonball Adderley and James Brown, of George Gershwin and Aaron Copeland, of Norman Mailer and Kurt Vonnegut and Mark Twain, of Martin Luther King and Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Goodbye to what I envied as the country that prided itself on encouraging unparalleled innovation in science, art and business. Any good that remains of it has been overshadowed by rapacity, cheap commercialism and egotism.

Goodbye to that ever-present sense of inferiority I once had when considering the relationship between Canada and America. What doubt I had of our own greatness is gone, and in its place is a certitude that Canada is superior to the U.S. in all the ways that matter. I look across the border now and see a violent, burgeoning autocracy now ever on the edge of civil war, and a population that is either cheering on this new brutalism or quaking in fear from it.

Goodbye to tepid patriotism. If Trump has done us any favour, it is awakening us to the fact that we can no longer take Canada’s existence for granted, that the bad actors in the world have begun to look covetously upon our improbably vast land that is laden with riches, that they want those riches and that niceness as a national character is not enough to dissuade them from taking them. Schoolyard bullies don’t want to be buddies. They want your lunch.

And after a long era of living a geopolitical life of convenient economic and military subservience, we’ve awakened to the fact that we are going to have to relearn our independence and fight any way we can to keep it.

Goodbye to living under the American nuclear umbrella, or any form of American hegemony. Goodbye to negotiation, wheedling, genuflecting or feel-good hands-across-the-border fairy tales. The American government has shown that established alliances mean nothing to it now, and so cannot be trusted. In Trump’s new world order, all the old verities are off the table, so let us make new ones.

Do levy tariffs, as we have promised to do, and do grit our way through the inevitable economic pain that will come. Re-arm as if we were on a war footing, because we are on a war footing. Conduct the mother of all public relation campaigns that let Americans know how badly they are perceived in the world, that they’ve gone from the shining city on the hill to just another empire with the same tired territorial ambitions as Russia or China. Do anything to impress upon Americans that their government is without real friends or allies, and that they, in essence, are alone.

So, goodbye America, it’s been nice knowing you, but I don’t know you anymore. I’ve reached that point in our relationship where any admiration I have had for you has been replaced by a new, angry resolve, which is: I won’t consort with the enemy”


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Feb 25 - 12:29 AM

For those who will not be part of the resistance, they will have to learn they are not a citizen but are subjects instead. They will have to learn new censorship as well as self-censorship. Unlike big tech, big pharma, bank, and oil Billionaires there will be no profit in compliance and bending the knee. Instead, there will be the threat of violence or incarceration.
I know my posts seem odd since I simplify and contextualize what is happening. Journalists do not man the ramparts but try to inform people of various actions by authorities, soon that will become very dangerous.

All the reforms and agencies that provided more safety to our food, air, jobs and medicine will be gone and the harm will be incalculable.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 05:32 PM

And in case you are wondering who the other ghost is, referred to in the article which Sandra linked to:

"While Kushner was Trump's ghost, Netanyahu's ghost was Bezalel Smotrich, the leader of the Religious Zionism Party and Israel's finance minister. Smotrich and his bloc of support keep Netanyahu in power and Smotrich, who controls the country's budget, is able to ensure the Jewish settlements in the West Bank, widely regarded under international law as illegal, are well funded.

"Without Smotrich, Netanyahu does not have the numbers to remain prime minister. This wouldn't just mean a loss of power but it would open him to the full suite of legal pain awaiting him over criminal charges of bribery, fraud and breach of trust."

The article was written by John Lyons whose factual and strategic analysis is always worth reading or watching on Oz TV.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 04:52 PM

Oops there goes; the Consumer Protection Agency, the dept of ejakashun, USAID, NIH, Treasury, FBI, the Kennedy Center, etc.



Next time you're found
With your chin on the ground
There a lot to be learned
So look around
… Just what makes that little old ant
Think he'll move that rubber tree plant
Anyone knows an ant can't
Move a rubber tree plant
… But he's got high hopes
He's got high hopes
He's got high apple pie
In the sky hopes
So any time you're gettin' low
'Stead of lettin' go
Just remember that ant
… Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant
Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant
Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant
… When troubles call
And your back's to the wall
There a lot to be learned
That wall could fall
… Once there was a silly old ram
Thought he'd punch a hole in a dam
No one could make that ram scram
He kept buttin' that dam
… 'Cause he had high hopes
He had high hopes
He had high apple pie
In the sky hopes
So any time you're feelin' bad
When shit hits the fan
Just remember that ram
… Oops, there goes a billion kilowatt dam
Oops, there goes a billion kilowatt dam
Oops, there goes a billion kilowatt dam
… All problems just a toy balloon
They'll be bursted soon
They're just bound to go pop
… Oops, there goes another agency, plop
Oops, there goes another agency, plop
Oops, there goes another agency, plop
Kerplop


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 04:33 PM

Two ghosts could be heard when Donald Trump announced his Gaza 'plan' Donald Trump's plan to turn Gaza into "the Riviera of the Middle East" is one of the most radical ideas from the White House for many years.

To understand how it came about, it's worth considering some comments made to a forum at one of the most prestigious universities in the United States in February last year.

It was to academics and students of Harvard's Kennedy School in Massachusetts that Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, took part in a discussion about international events.

But what he did, in fact, was float the very idea that Trump has presented in recent days as his new policy for Gaza. Both Kushner and Trump have had careers as property developers, which may well explain the real estate element to this attempt at a shift in foreign policy. (read on)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 02:45 PM

the word CONTRA above picture of Trump
the word DICTION below

the wordS LIAR ABOUT EVERYTHING above picture of Trump
the wordS EXCEPT HATE & GREED below


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 02:16 PM

NOW is the time our younger selves can be proud of who we have become.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 12:28 PM

.... And, as someone has pointed out in the Comments on an ElReg article (which I can't locate atm):

Add in replacing the humans in their Praetorian Guards with gun-bearing robots, and you can see why fürers the world over are showing interest in AI.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 10:33 AM

If the Preatorian guard are caught between Musk, Trump, and the people, Shakespeare has several versions of that scenario.

US founding fathers tried to devise a system to avoid a Giliad.
They knew it wasn't perfect.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 10:19 AM

Yes MaJoC, ‘The Gulf of Gilead’ has a ring to it, doesn’t it?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 09:52 AM

> "Hmm.. why let our enemies ever get to vote
> against us?"

I can't remember where I've seen this meme, but, to paraphrase:

The Gruesome Twosome's end game is to stir up an insurrection against themselves. Once that happens, ManBaby can declare martial law.

And *that* is where "just one more push" came from. All he need do then is keep the Praetorian Guard onside.

This is the Republic of Gilead, and you're welcome to it.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: gillymor
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 09:32 AM

That's also good, almost as good as DtG's "300" post.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 08:47 AM

caption for my cartoon; "The barbarians have hacked the gates..."
image; teenage slob at a laptop with a line into Treasury Dept. computers while eating hot pockets.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 07:09 AM

The best you have ever said, good job dave.


The founding fathers knew the evil and frail minds of some men and devised a system to balance goodness with other equal powers.
Republicans have control of every branch of government and intentionally are destroying the balance of our original Constitution.
They are saying this is their best and only chance to gain and keep control.

This is not the time to tune out


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 06:56 AM

300!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Feb 25 - 06:52 AM

The next step for the courts to enforce their ruling that is being ignored is to issue a contempt order and call up the federal Marshalls. Will Bondi follow that court order?
The rule of law depends on a spirit to follow the law. Does Trump have that spirit? Will the Supreme Court?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Feb 25 - 06:32 PM

I've sent another message to both senators and to my representative. I've posted a blog entry to give guidance on how to contact these representatives and why it doesn't help to contact senators or reps who don't represent you. (PM for information about that blog if you want to subscribe, it's free. You may need a Wordpress account to respond or subscribe, but those are also free. And it isn't just politics.)

Doing the things I know how to do every day. Tomorrow is Monday, time to get on the phone and make some calls to these same folks. If you're on social media, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has some great instructive videos that have appeared on Instagram and Bluesky, and probably others (and I love that she is knitting while she does it.)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 09 Feb 25 - 04:12 PM

SRS, a couple of days ago when I was looking for a specific quote about F-Elon, I saw an image of a poster at a political protest. I think it had an image of a jellyfish, maybe, and the caption read "Democrats - spineless, brainless, heartless".

I think that applies not just to the Democrats but as you said, to the whole House and Senate.

"Until the Senate and House grow a spine and stand up to Trump nothing will happen."


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Feb 25 - 03:22 PM

I spent an increasingly depressing hour listening to a discussion with George Conway on The Bulwark. The Justice Department answers to Trump now and they will order US Marshals not to arrest anyone held in contempt or enforce rulings by federal judges.

Until the Senate and House grow a spine and stand up to Trump nothing will happen.

There is a third rail: the moment they stop social security or any federal accounts there will be riots in the streets, and then the house and senate will have to act. And hope the army disobeys Trump's orders to shoot protestors.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 09 Feb 25 - 03:16 PM

I'm wondering if the decision by Trump & his evil twin F-Elon to stop USAID will have a consequence they haven't considered.

The people who call themselves Christians can justify some of Trump's edicts, e.g. stopping abortion, deporting illegal aliens, but can they live with their own conscience knowing that children will die of starvation without USAID, people will suffer or die from health problems which were being relieved by USAID, a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering will occur.

Regarding the Supreme Court's role in the recent decisions by Judges to temporarily restrict actions based on decisions made by Trump and his F-Elonious friend, will Amy Coney-Barrett, who as I recall claims to live by her Christian standards, go along with his edicts in the face of the resulting suffering and death or will she have a moral about-face? Will she re-evaluate what it really means to follow her Christian faith?

It would be poetic justice if she did get closer to her Christian ethics and morality and no longer blindly align herself with Trump, IMHO.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Feb 25 - 02:54 PM

If the International Criminal Court files an arrest warrant against Trump, then if he goes to a member country they could arrest him. It would be messy, but it would be one way to put him out of commission for a while.

What other world-wide methods are out there to physically remove him from the office?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 09 Feb 25 - 02:47 PM

SRS, thanks for the link to the George Conway video. He raises some very important and worrying points.

Psychopathocracy. Hmmm!! Very apt terminology and very worrying consequences.

And the comparison between normal political leaders who use proper strategic processes, including analysing the facts and considering the likely outcomes and consequences of proposed actions compared with Trump and his evil cronies who shoot first and ask questions later.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Feb 25 - 02:15 PM

George Conway explains How the Stop the Dismantling of Our Government on The Bulwark.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Feb 25 - 10:53 AM

The real test will be if any of these cases make it to the supreme court. Will these acts be a bridge too far for Gorsuch, Coney Barrett, and the rapist Kavanaugh. I have no hope for good decisions from Alito or Thomas. Odd. Really odd.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 25 - 09:50 AM

Who are the millions of people who are harmed or killed by the fabulous fascist twins?
People who have lost their jobs
Farmers who won't be paid for the 3 billion dollars of grain that went to USAID
Farmers who have no migrant workers to harvest crops
Shoppers who may pay double for the smaller food supply
Children with disabilities who lost programs for special education
School lunch programs
Meals on wheels for shut-ins
VA benefits
People who no longer get PETFAR HIV medicine
Children who die because of starvation without USAID

These people were first to come to my mind BUT
who else is being harmed in your observation?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 25 - 04:38 PM

The court does not have its own enforcement. The DOJ would refer to the FBI. Would Bondi and Patel give orders to enforce the court order?
I think not.

The young Musk gang would have members who would try to get a little something for themselves. This is common among thieves. Things will go sideways in a hurry once private heists occur. Envy and greed will take over and lead to the no-loose-thread order. The Musk gang is not a democracy and would probably seek a solution with extreme prejudice to restore discipline.

Stay tuned for season 1 episode 4.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 08 Feb 25 - 01:52 PM

US judge temporarily blocks Elon Musk's DOGE from accessing payment systems

"In short: A US District Court judge has put a temporary block on Elon Musk and employees of his Department of Government Efficience (DOGE) accessing the US Treasury Department's payment and data systems.

"The ruling was issued in response to a lawsuit from 19 states filed on Friday, alleging Mr Musk and his cost-cutting team could disrupt a number of vital government services and access sensitive data.
What's next?

"The judge's order is only temporary — a further hearing before another judge is scheduled for next Friday, February 14."

...

"The lawsuit said Mr Musk and his team could disrupt federal funding for health clinics, preschools, climate initiatives, and other programs, and that President Donald Trump, a Republican, could use the information to further his political agenda.

"DOGE's access to the systems also 'poses huge cybersecurity risks that put vast amounts of funding for the States and their residents in peril,' the state attorneys-general said, seeking a temporary restraining order preventing Mr Musk's team from accessing the systems."

...

"His order bars political appointees, special government employees [e,g, Elon Musk] and government employees detailed from an agency outside the Treasury Department from being granted access to the department's payment and data systems.

"The judge also directed anyone prohibited under his order from accessing those systems to immediately destroy anything they had previously copied or downloaded."

...

"Judge Engelmayer's ruling came a day after another federal judge, this time a Trump appointee, paused Mr Musk's plans to place 2,200 USAID employees on leave.

The White House and Treasury Department did not immediately respond to requests for comment from news agency Reuters.

Mr Trump deputised Mr Musk to lead DOGE to identify fraud and waste in the government, however Mr Musk's efforts have alarmed Democrats and advocacy groups who say he is overstepping his authority by seeking to dismantle agencies responsible for critical government programs and fire federal workers en masse."


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 25 - 12:53 PM

Getting locked out of a system with new teenage encryption codes is a problem.
I foresee the shit eventually hitting the fan inside the Musk gang so that a NO LOOSE THREAD order goes down and his kids start to disappear. Chaotic missions have chaotic endings. It could depend on a rogue band of FBI agents putting their lives on the line for the Constitution. They are not all fascist patriots.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Feb 25 - 10:54 AM

This was posted by Rebecca Solnit on FB overnight:
Crucial advice and insight from my very smart strategist friend Brian, an actual expert on government payment systems:

On Musk and his take over of the US Treasury payment systems:
First, I believe taking action every day is absolutely critical. My goal in making my phone calls is to keep Congressional leaders focused on the issue and ensure it remains top of mind until Musk/DOGE is kicked out.

So my advice is prioritize calling, even if your script is imperfect. You can just say: "it's unacceptable to have Elon Musk and his staff in charge of federal payments. It's illegal." You don't need to give a speech or say everything exactly technically right.

Second, and this is harder - I am really trying not to get too emotionally invested in this, mainly because I am pretty confident Musk will not get away with this.

The situation is urgent in the sense that every day Musk is left with access, the harder it will be to undo any code changes his staff have made, and the more data he will have stolen. So that's why I'm calling every day.

I have read and heard a lot of panic and doomsaying on this, with people claiming that Musk has installed malicious code, including keyboard tracking, backdoors, and the ability to remotely control the systems.

Without control of the payment systems, the doomsaying goes, Congress will no longer control spending, rendering them impotent, and creating a dictatorship with Musk/Trump at the helm.

This where I am taking a breath. My entire career has been spent implementing complex payment systems for governmental organizations, so I would ask everyone to consider a few points:

(1) All payment systems have secure backups, including physical copies. At the absolute worst, post Musk/cronies, OPM can restore systems from back-up.

(2) the US government, notably our security agencies, have entire divisions devoted to cybercrime and counterintrusion. I really don't think a few 20 year old twits could install software that couldn't be detected and deleted by veteran programmers.

(3) There have to be contingency plans for paying out funds in the case the Treasury can't operate. My company has helped 6 person pension funds figure out how to pay 5000 retirees if the payroll file fails. I'm pretty confident we can get federal payments out through other means while Treasury's systems are being restored.

Over the last 12 hours, Trump has said he will scale back Musk's access, and a judge has apparently issued some kind of ruling also limiting Musk's access. The Courts will not allow this to continue, and we can put enough pressure on congress for them to finally put an end to this.

This is terrible and scary, but remember fear gets in the way of focus and action, so please try to limit your doomsaying and focus on making your calls today.

I am so heartened by how active so many of you are. It's keep me going. This is a time for patriots, and you are earning the title.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: gillymor
Date: 08 Feb 25 - 10:05 AM

It does run counter to his "Revive Jim Crow" agenda, maybe that will be the slogan in the end zone next Super Bowl.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 25 - 09:37 AM

The Super Bowl has caved in to Trump.

The WORDS removed from the endzone that said "END RACISM"
were offensive to Trump.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 25 - 09:27 AM

I prefer

Elon Musk says
FUCK YOU


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 25 - 09:25 AM

Violence and final solutions are eventually found to be cheaper and more permanent in dictatorships.
I can imagine that shackling is crucial for step three final deportations. With rear door cargo planes one can have a 2 ton weight parachute out the back with a chain connected to the shackles. All those shackled will go deep into the ocean. Industrial elimination of people without a trace can become more simple and easy than the WWII holocaust.

Of course a neutron bomb can accomplish a final solution over a large camp/prison without any damage to the infrastructure however removing the remains that will not rot* is unimaginable.

*inability to decompose is due to the unique effects of a sterilizing neutron bomb.

It's been said before "it can't happen here".


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 08 Feb 25 - 09:12 AM

Helen, such a deicious idea - please send me one!!!!!! Of course we may have to wait until he is convicted of something or until the turnip throws his under a bus to save his neck - thugh I wouldn't be surpised if it happens the other way round as the turnip is a useful mindless mouthpiece thatsuits musk's purposes fr the present.
.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Feb 25 - 06:59 PM

India is outraged that the deportation of Indian natives from the US
was accomplished with a military aircraft
and with shackling of the passengers.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 25 - 05:55 PM

Now that Trump and his minions have "won", you can bet that they dread the very idea of *losing* in 2026 & 2028, as a sane DOJ would have many new felons along with the old ones to prosecute. Thus, ANY means, illegal or not to avoid this will be used.
"Hmm.. why let our enemies ever get to vote against us?"


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 07 Feb 25 - 05:42 PM

I just looked at the title of this thread and did a double take.

After posting about how tempted I am to create an "F Elon Musk" car sticker, the words "convicted felon" created F-Elon in my brain.

There is a good probability, IMHO, that Elon will join Trump in the felon category at some point in the not-too-distant future. He already has 80% of that word in his name and BTW 80% of Trump's name is rump.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Feb 25 - 03:43 PM

There is a treatment for the twisted twins.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 07 Feb 25 - 12:27 PM

Donuel, the Tesla sales in Australia have dropped significantly too.

Tesla sales slump worldwide off the back of Elon Musk's political actions

"Questionable hand gestures, antisemitic tweets, and linking arms with President Donald Trump; Elon Musk has become a master at alienating his audience.

"Now it's showing up on his company's bottom line.

"Tesla sales have slumped around the world, including by a third in January in Australia compared to the same time a year ago.

"According to data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) and Electric Vehicle Council (EVC) EV sales were just 4.4 per cent of the Australian market in January, down from 5.5 per cent in January last year.

"Giles Parkinson, founder of The Driven, said Mr Musk's 'extraordinary' actions had contributed to Tesla falling out of the top five best-selling car brands in European markets, and now Australia was following suit.

"'That really has been attributed a lot to the impact of Musk on his brand,' he told The Business.

"'We're hearing that people are walking into other car makers and saying, I want to buy an electric car but I don't want to buy Tesla anymore.'

"'We're also hearing that people who own Teslas are feeling uncomfortable and are looking to see if they can sell and shift to another brand.'

"'It's an extraordinary situation, because the Tesla products are really quite admired because of their quality, but some people are just finding it really difficult to either buy or retain those those cars.'"

Other sections of the article are: "Owners 'don't want to be attached' to Musk", "Musk, competition from China turning away customers", and sections on Hybrids remaining popular option in Australia, the Chinese brand BYD, and tax exemptions on more environmentally friendly vehicles.


I keep telling my Hubby that I want to make an FEM (F*ck Elon Musk) car sticker to put on any Tesla cars I see. He just rolls his eyes. I probably won't but I still say it out loud every time I see a Tesla.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 Feb 25 - 10:27 AM

From a post of gillymor's, apparentlhy misposted to the UK politics thread:

> [tRump is] living in a reality show gone wrong and he
> has to be the star.

There's a name for that: the poor manbaby's suffering from Headline Attention Deficit Disorder, as is his competitor (Agent X).


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Feb 25 - 09:45 AM

Considering all the booing that welcomed Trump at the 2019 World Series he might want to keep a low profile at this event to protect his fragile ego.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Feb 25 - 08:40 AM

Tesla car sales in Europe have dropped about 50%
Musk US approval rating went from 47% in Nov.
to 25% in February.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
Next Page

  Share Thread:
More...


You must be a member to post in non-music threads. Join here.


You must be a member to post in non-music threads. Join here.



Mudcat time: 12 February 10:40 PM EST

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 2022 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.