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Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup

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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 10:50 PM

Good luck to Mark Carney as now president of Canada. At least there is one that's not head case the other side of the pond !


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 09:29 PM

I watched PBS Washington Week with the Atlantic yesterday. One of the commentators was speculating that Democrats and some Republicans may be building a counter-attack against Trump, or they may be sitting in the background waiting for him to shoot himself in the foot, politically and strategically, and then jump into the ring and take control.

I still believe that there are a lot of people working behind the scenes to restore democracy. I also don't think Trump's dictatorship has the same odds of being successful as those political situations in countries like Russia where the real people have less political power to create positive change.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 07:16 PM

Mr. Red, we're hoping to get all of them reinstated eventually. Those that took the Musk offer of a buyout may have been at retirement age and hoping to get a bonus payment (chances are he will stiff them on that.)

We're still working on this. Pushing back, and it mostly seems to be through the courts.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 06:10 PM

Sandra, the second and third episodes of Adolf Hitler: Decoding a Dictator will be on SBS TV on Saturday and Sunday this week at 5.30 pm. The similarities to Trump are chilling. I think there might only be three episodes in the series but they are available to view online on SBS On Demand.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 05:06 PM

Trump Dynasty?

Apparently Homer Simpson was drawn with a "Ivanka 2028" badge in one short scene. Half in jest, half in dread - I posit.

There have been precedents - worldwide. Indira Gandhi and even the Italian born widow in the clan, Sandra Gandhi. Parties get desperate after they have run out of popularity. How else did a game show host become president?

And don't forget, all those government employees sacked then re-instated. Which ones were re-hired? Would it have been Card Carrying Members? Whiteish ones maybe? My understanding of the electoral system in the US is that a lot of people declare their allegiance in the primaries and "the party" has the list of CCMs? A recipe ripe for corruption IMNSHO.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 04:14 PM

I’ve never been able to figure how he attracts either voters or the opposite sex. - Kissinger when asked if power is the ultimate aphrodisiac said yes

To make America great, Donald Trump is undoing its greatness as global stock markets fall ...Trump frequently talks about standing for a third term. But he'll be 82 in 2028, and while you can't count him out, he probably won't take on the constitution to that extent at that age.

But by then his administration should be in full control of the electoral machinery, as well as social media. So Trump will able to install a successor — maybe JD Vance, or perhaps start an imperial dynasty: Donald Trump Jnr, followed by the now 18-year-old Barron.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 02:37 PM

”Trump is as malign (adjective, not verb) a character as could ever have ended up in a position that requires a huge amount of empathy and intellect.”

So, so true. He displays a child-like vindictiveness and vengefulness. He is repulsive in both his appearance and character, and I’ve never been able to figure how he attracts either voters or the opposite sex.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 12:53 PM

I thin out the worst of it, and some of the rest of you if you respond to either Don or Dick's droppings may find the responses disappear also. Consider me the person with the shovel and wheelbarrow following the parade. No one needs to step in that stuff. Just step past it and move on.

Right after Maine's governor pushed back at Trump publicly, he decided to play a dirty trick and cancel the contract in Maine (they exist in all 50 states) with the state agency that arranges for newborns to receive a Social Security number when they register for their child's birth certificate. It would have added a lot of work to the process when those numbers are needed soon for registering for services, for filing taxes (listing dependents), etc. They would have to travel with the child to one of the offices around the state to do the same thing. After a lot of complaining the feds reversed the order.

Trump is as malign (adjective, not verb) a character as could ever have ended up in a position that requires a huge amount of empathy and intellect.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 12:35 PM

Did you really just say "Sandman sometimes says things that have no evidence", Don?

Does a phrase involving kettles and pans spring to mind?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 11:09 AM

My posts that do point out correct Trump/Elon accidental positives are removed by Stilly possibly out of knee jerk bias. They were not the brain droppings comparable to 'diddums', but that's just my POV.

Even a blind squirrel might find a nut or two.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 09:03 AM

If Trump did do something smart it was purely by accident.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 09:03 AM

It is obvious that a person high on the cruelty index is less likely to enter nursing and might rather join the police or military
Exceptions do, fortunately, exist.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 08:34 AM

Dunning Kruger is a theory based upon obvious observation and has obvious acceptance.
I have a sociological theory regarding a persistent observation of 20%
of a human population that is innately low in empathy and without the ability to think from someone else's perspective. What exacerbates the effect that leads to cruelty, narcissism, and criminal behavior is an early upbringing of physical and mental abuse. This combination of nature and nurture in creating individuals that range from psychopaths to those without the ability to fully empathize needs to be investigated further to determine if this effect can be mitigated,
If a name for this is required I would call it the Cruel index.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 08:01 AM

Sandman sometimes says things that have no evidence. Guesswork is fine, but when Trump's brainstorms become policy without further thought, the cyclones can be disastrous.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 07:20 AM

> Trump is attempting to split Russia AND China

.... and said leaders are laughing at the Dunning-Kruger sufferer behind his back.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Mar 25 - 04:28 AM

Trump is attempting to split Russia AND China, from USA point of view a smart move


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 08 Mar 25 - 08:16 PM

Thanks SRS. Every way I tried to get into the 538 page took me back to the ABC page, with no explanation for the magical mystery tour.

I tried to find other reliable polling sites but at least one looked skewed in favour of Trump.

This article shows a popularity polling graph and provides some commentary:

Brookings: Trump’s first 5 weeks in the polls

Also I'm halfway through watching a documentary called Adolf Hitler: Decoding a Dictator

It is scarily similar to Trump's rise to power.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Mar 25 - 08:04 PM

It took a little bit of searching, but it appears to be a Disney/ABC casualty. From The Guardian: Political poll news site 538 to close amid larger shuttering across ABC and Disney
Disney is reportedly cutting staff across ABC News Group and its entertainment network as media layoffs continue
The popular political poll news and analysis website, 538, is being shut down as part of a broader shuttering effort across ABC News and Disney Entertainment, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday night.

Disney is reportedly cutting 200 positions across ABC News Group and Disney Entertainment Networks, including shutting down the data-driven 538.

The ABC news magazine shows 20/20 and Nightline are to be consolidated into one program, resulting in further job cuts, sources told the Journal. The closing of 538 means an additional 15 employees will be let go.

You may recall that Disney paid a settlement to Trump for a Stephanopoulos interview and they must be feeling gun-shy. Trump is a litigious fellow. That's one way he earns his billions these days.

I was able to see past page captures on the Wayback Machine. The links are all pointed to a generic ABC page now.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 08 Mar 25 - 03:28 PM

Is there a valid reason why the 538 Trump favorability polls website address reverts to the ABC News (US) site?

Or has it been hijacked by Trump's cyber cronies to stop people finding out how low his popularity rating is at present?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 08 Mar 25 - 12:16 PM

SRS, I usually pick out a paragraph here and there which gets to the heart of the article but I try to keep it brief and add the link for anyone who wants to read the whole article.

BWM, it was worth reading and the end of the speech was especially relevant, starting with:

"But in American history, the freedom fighters have always prevailed. They are beginning to raise their heads...."


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Mar 25 - 12:02 PM

Those long posts aren't necessary. Capture the first sentence or two of the transcribed text (or the name of the speaker and date) then drop it in your search engine and nine times out of ten you'll land on a site with the transcript or the video (with subtitles) such as this.

That video has a link to the full transcript in a Google doc.


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Subject: RE: Orange Jesus for Peace Prize?
From: Mr Red
Date: 08 Mar 25 - 07:17 AM

I did post half in jest but half in dread in this parish. This thread

& Now there are videos mentioning Trump & Nobel in the same headline. Also half in............... & half .........

We are living in interesting times.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Mar 25 - 07:01 AM

A piece from the FB Page of Alan Wechsler, reporting the speech in the French Senate by M. Claude Malhureta couple of days ago - M. Claude Malhuret, speech to the Senate of France

As usual, to allow non-FB-ers of this forum to read this piece, I have C&Pd it below…apologies for its length, but I feel it is of such importance that it’s worth posting here.


”Transcript below of an incredibly powerful and deadly accurate speech in the French Senate two days ago by Mr. Claude Malhuret. This may some day take its rightful place alongside the best of Sir Winston Churchill and President John F Kennedy.
Brace yourself:

“President, Mr. Prime Minister, Ladies and Gentlemen Ministers, My dear colleagues,
Europe is at a critical turning point in its history. The American shield is crumbling, Ukraine risks being abandoned, Russia strengthened.
Washington has become the court of Nero, a fiery emperor, submissive courtiers and a ketamine-fueled jester in charge of purging the civil service.
This is a tragedy for the free world, but it is first and foremost a tragedy for the United States. Trump’s message is that there is no point in being his ally since he will not defend you, he will impose more customs duties on you than on his enemies and will threaten to seize your territories while supporting the dictatorships that invade you.
The king of the deal is showing what the art of the deal is all about. He thinks he will intimidate China by lying down before Putin, but Xi Jinping, faced with such a shipwreck, is probably accelerating preparations for the invasion of Taiwan.
Never in history has a President of the United States capitulated to the enemy. Never has anyone supported an aggressor against an ally. Never has anyone trampled on the American Constitution, issued so many illegal decrees, dismissed judges who could have prevented him from doing so, dismissed the military general staff in one fell swoop, weakened all checks and balances, and taken control of social media.
This is not an illiberal drift, it is the beginning of the confiscation of democracy. Let us remember that it took only one month, three weeks and two days to bring down the Weimar Republic and its Constitution.
I have faith in the strength of American democracy, and the country is already protesting. But in one month, Trump has done more harm to America than in four years of his last presidency. We were at war with a dictator, now we are fighting a dictator backed by a traitor.
Eight days ago, at the very moment that Trump was rubbing Macron’s back in the White House, the United States voted at the UN with Russia and North Korea against the Europeans demanding the withdrawal of Russian troops.
Two days later, in the Oval Office, the military service shirker was giving war hero Zelensky lessons in morality and strategy before dismissing him like a groom, ordering him to submit or resign.
Tonight, he took another step into infamy by stopping the delivery of weapons that had been promised. What to do in the face of this betrayal? The answer is simple: face it.
And first of all, let’s not be mistaken. The defeat of Ukraine would be the defeat of Europe. The Baltic States, Georgia, Moldova are already on the list. Putin’s goal is to return to Yalta, where half the continent was ceded to Stalin.
The countries of the South are waiting for the outcome of the conflict to decide whether they should continue to respect Europe or whether they are now free to trample on it.
What Putin wants is the end of the order put in place by the United States and its allies 80 years ago, with its first principle being the prohibition of acquiring territory by force.
This idea is at the very source of the UN, where today Americans vote in favor of the aggressor and against the attacked, because the Trumpian vision coincides with that of Putin: a return to spheres of influence, the great powers dictating the fate of small countries.
Mine is Greenland, Panama and Canada, you are Ukraine, the Baltics and Eastern Europe, he is Taiwan and the China Sea.
At the parties of the oligarchs of the Gulf of Mar-a-Lago, this is called “diplomatic realism.”
So we are alone. But the talk that Putin cannot be resisted is false. Contrary to the Kremlin’s propaganda, Russia is in bad shape. In three years, the so-called second largest army in the world has managed to grab only crumbs from a country three times less populated.
Interest rates at 25%, the collapse of foreign exchange and gold reserves, the demographic collapse show that it is on the brink of the abyss. The American helping hand to Putin is the biggest strategic mistake ever made in a war.
The shock is violent, but it has a virtue. Europeans are coming out of denial. They understood in one day in Munich that the survival of Ukraine and the future of Europe are in their hands and that they have three imperatives.
Accelerate military aid to Ukraine to compensate for the American abandonment, so that it holds, and of course to impose its presence and that of Europe in any negotiation.
This will be expensive. It will be necessary to end the taboo of the use of frozen Russian assets. It will be necessary to circumvent Moscow’s accomplices within Europe itself by a coalition of only the willing countries, with of course the United Kingdom.
Second, demand that any agreement be accompanied by the return of kidnapped children, prisoners and absolute security guarantees. After Budapest, Georgia and Minsk, we know what agreements with Putin are worth. These guarantees require sufficient military force to prevent a new invasion.
Finally, and this is the most urgent, because it is what will take the most time, we must build the neglected European defence, to the benefit of the American umbrella since 1945 and scuttled since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
It is a Herculean task, but it is on its success or failure that the leaders of today’s democratic Europe will be judged in the history books.
Friedrich Merz has just declared that Europe needs its own military alliance. This is to recognize that France has been right for decades in arguing for strategic autonomy.
It remains to be built. It will be necessary to invest massively, to strengthen the European Defence Fund outside the Maastricht debt criteria, to harmonize weapons and munitions systems, to accelerate the entry into the Union of Ukraine, which is today the leading European army, to rethink the place and conditions of nuclear deterrence based on French and British capabilities, to relaunch the anti-missile shield and satellite programs.
The plan announced yesterday by Ursula von der Leyen is a very good starting point. And much more will be needed.
Europe will only become a military power again by becoming an industrial power again. In a word, the Draghi report will have to be implemented. For good.
But the real rearmament of Europe is its moral rearmament.
We must convince public opinion in the face of war weariness and fear, and especially in the face of Putin’s cronies, the extreme right and the extreme left.
They argued again yesterday in the National Assembly, Mr Prime Minister, before you, against European unity, against European defence.
They say they want peace. What neither they nor Trump say is that their peace is capitulation, the peace of defeat, the replacement of de Gaulle Zelensky by a Ukrainian Pétain at the beck and call of Putin.
Peace for the collaborators who have refused any aid to the Ukrainians for three years.
Is this the end of the Atlantic Alliance? The risk is great. But in the last few days, the public humiliation of Zelensky and all the crazy decisions taken in the last month have finally made the Americans react.
Polls are falling. Republican lawmakers are being greeted by hostile crowds in their constituencies. Even Fox News is becoming critical.
The Trumpists are no longer in their majesty. They control the executive, the Parliament, the Supreme Court and social networks.
But in American history, the freedom fighters have always prevailed. They are beginning to raise their heads.
The fate of Ukraine is being played out in the trenches, but it also depends on those in the United States who want to defend democracy, and here on our ability to unite Europeans, to find the means for their common defense, and to make Europe the power that it once was in history and that it hesitates to become again.
Our parents defeated fascism and communism at great cost.
The task of our generation is to defeat the totalitarianisms of the 21st century.
Long live free Ukraine, long live democratic Europe.”

-Claude Malhuret speaking to the French Senate Tuesday March 4 2025. You have just read the transcript of a speech that will live forever in the history books.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Mar 25 - 05:59 AM

Refugees from Ukraine have lost their protective status thanks to the Commander and Revenge King.

Believe it or not, the latest victim of the DEI ban is the aircraft 'Enola Gay'.
Images of the airplane are to be removed from all government facilities because of the word Gay.

It's International Women's Day. The Pentagon, ironically, will remove pictures of women marines for breaking DEI policy.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 05:37 PM

were gonna kick Canada's butt


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 05:25 PM

Executive orders are being aimed at lawfirms that ever defeated the orange man-child in Court, represented the DNC, Hillary, and democrats in general.
This shot across lawfirm bows is a warning to not represent anyone but Trump, or they will be barred from ever entering a federal building, trying a federal case, or ever getting a security clearance, and risk the usual bomb threats.

The lust for retribution will keep going until Donnie's imagination can no longer find a lurking enemy or, more likely, on his deathbed.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 02:20 PM

Also, the exclamation "diddums" is always said with an initial high, then low pitch and emphasis on the second syllable - like an impending doom, extended low pitch. "O-o-o-h, Did-dummmmms!" [false sympathy]


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Lighter
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 01:27 PM

A note from history. This guy nails it:

https://theconversation.com/trump-is-the-kinglike-president-many-feared-when-arguing-over-the-us-constitution-in-1789-and-his-address-to-congress-showed-it-251294

Link fixed. If you used the Mudcat Blinkifier, it doesn't handle really long links well. ---mudelf


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 12:58 PM

Aaaaahh! Of course! ;-) :-)


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 11:42 AM

> ‘Diddums’?

As in "Poor diddums, he's thrown his rattle out of the pram, and is squalling until someone fetches it for him so he can throw it out again". (Wherefore else that sulky pout?) In this case, it's simple Headline Deprivation Syndrome.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 11:42 AM

Diddums is a sooky cry-baby.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 11:26 AM

‘Diddums’?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 09:39 AM

BREAKING WIND NEWS: Diddums is "strongly considering" imposing banking sactions on Russia until a cease-fire is reached. The Russian ambassador to the UK is responding on Sky News as we speak, but needs to forcibly be reminded that Russia was historically a province of Ukraine, not the other way round.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 09:33 AM

Excerpt from an interesting article in The Register (Uncle Sam mulls policing social media of all would-be citizens):

[...] foreigners applying for immigration benefits in the US, when visiting the USCIS portal for applicants, were this week greeted with a friendly message that reads: "Making America safe again. America welcomes those who respect our laws. Follow the law and and you will find opportunity. Break it and you will find consequences."

The comments section is definitely worth reading; the first one saved me from having to make the same comment here. Lower down, one of the most notable is, in total:

card-carrying communists

What would Senator Joseph McCarthy have made of the bromance between Путін хуйло and The Orange One?

.... and I do now know what the Cyrillic means (Wikipedia is your friend).


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 08:24 AM

Regarding tariffs, we wrote the book. Remember Art of the Deal?
However, China wrote 'The Art of War'. Tariffs are supposed to be used only in the event of war. This is already more than Trump understands.

Tariffs generally worked before the Renaissance when country A made wine and country B made grain and they traded. If prices were not fair, they could be equalized. But today few things are made entirely in one country. Even Mexican beer is made with American barley.
It's called a global economy stupid.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Mar 25 - 03:38 AM

Just read a great comment along the lines of "The US has not just shot itself in the foot. It has sawn its leg off, refuses to call an ambulance and is celebrating its weight loss"


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Mar 25 - 10:13 PM

Trying to stay on the topic includes removing some of the random brain droppings, especially those shared in sequences of posts. Don, put them all in one and park them in MOAB 3.

Judges are pushing back against the illegal stuff Trump is trying to do, but they're still managing to let through some of the high-level firings. I came in late on an interview Rachel Maddow was doing with a high level federal official, apparently an agency watchdog, who said this was his worst day and best day all in one: he managed to save the jobs of 5,000 of his agency's workers, but at the end of the day he lost his job. It should dawn on these Muskovites that they're firing some really smart people who will now have the time on their hands to fight back in court. And work out a communication system with former co-workers to stay informed about what is going on in each agency.

Of all of the recent Trump nonsense there is speculation that after he announced the Mexico and Canada tariffs his sons probably bought a lot of stock in automotive companies - and after he changed his mind - again - would have sold for huge profits. See how that works?


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: robomatic
Date: 06 Mar 25 - 03:39 PM

To quote George Costanza: "It's not a lie if you believe it."


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 25 - 01:33 PM

Often, the greatest lie ever told is "Everything will be OK."


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 06 Mar 25 - 01:30 PM

Hubby showed me an AI generated video on Farcebook where Zelenskyy punches tRump, who then cries like a baby having a tantrum. There are variations available online but I can't find the one with the baby tantrum (should that be spelled tanTrump?) ending. It is only a few seconds long. It's funny.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Mar 25 - 01:02 PM

The military is something we also need to pay attention to. Trump has dismissed the adults in the room, nominated unqualified people to leadership positions, and got rid of the JAGs - the attorneys who pay attention to the orders given that they be Constitutional.

The disposal of trans members may get more attention right now, but it is Trump wants leadership in place to be paying attention to him, not the Constitution.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 06 Mar 25 - 12:05 PM

> MaJoC is the reincarnation of Senator Byrd.

.... Which one? there's seven, and five Senator Birds (Senators Bird?), known to Wikipedia.

Meanwhile, back at the point, something from the letters page of today's New European:

It is time for us Europeans to pay a lot more attention to the wisdom circulating among old-age psychiatrists. It is my experience (not being a qualified psychiatrist but an ordinary physician) that mental deterioration prior to full-blown Alzheimer's terrifies those with a Trump-Putin mindset and leads to unjustified aggressive behaviour in those already prone to aggression.

Trump is only a very few years younger than his father was when he developed Alzheimer's. Time for government to seek guidance from those with in-depth experience of this troubling consequence of extended lifespans. Please would our government consult meaningfully those, largely to be found in the Royal College of Psychiatrists, who can help them outmanoevre these ageing tyrants?

.... and from an article entitled The Abominable Showman in the same issue, reviewing "Michael Woolf's new book on Trump and his court":

Even after a bullet grazes him at Butler, he refuses a CT scan, fearful that it will show "plaque" and people will say he has Altzeimer's. Image is everything --- as he has just shown by pumping his fist in the air and shouting "fight!"

And there was me thinking it might be due to the Oik-in-Chief taking both amphetamines and barbiturates (downers make you stupid, uppers make you certain, and both together means everybody around you wears a tin hat at all times) .... But whatever it is, the results are still at best inexcusable, and ultimately his own fault.

Maybe now, Donuel, we can answer your question about what's in it for tRump: if you're marching in front of a zombie army, the one thing you cannot afford to do is stumble.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 25 - 06:23 PM

MaJoc is the reincarnation of Senator Byrd.

Trump was handed a lukewarm defeat by SCOTUS today.
Cheeto monster has very few court wins of the 90 suits aligned against him. So far so good, but complying with the court orders is proving to be harder than pulling teeth with dental floss.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 05 Mar 25 - 05:32 PM

To answer a somewhat earlier question from DtG:

> The more ridiculous his policies become, the more
> I wonder who is allowing them to pass.

It's the boil-the-frog method. We suffered, and are still suffering, from that in the UK: the more rabid the right-wing papers made their headlines, the more everybody thought it had become normal. (Small boats, anyone?) It's *just* possible that this State of the Drivel farce may have woken some of them from their stupor, but I'll believe that when I see Capitol Hill raining jumping frogs.

There's historical precendents for this sort of thing. Cato the Elder, for example, ended every speech he made in the Roman Senate with Ceterum (autem) censeo Carthaginem esse delendam ("Furthermore, I think that Carthage must be destroyed"), for so long that this eventually became a self-fulfilling prophecy.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 25 - 05:04 PM

Get ready to embrace strange bedfellows in the rising anti Trump tsunami. 80,000 people are being fired from the Veterans Administration. They are already organizing against Trump. Some of the militia types with military experience will have to do a rethink.

Republican politicians have gotten the e-mail memo to stop having town halls with their constituents because it is making bad TV. The vehement angst regarding Trump/Musk is highly charged with near-hatred.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 05 Mar 25 - 02:09 PM

BREAKING NEWS, from Pres Macron's live broadcast: He's just put France on a war footing. More later once it's been summarised elsewhere.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 05 Mar 25 - 01:53 PM

Wow, DtG. Just seriously *wow*.

.... For the record, Herself turned over from Sky News, which was supposed to be carrying some babbling briefing by one of the flunkettes (I forget which one), and which appeared to be infinitely delayed. BBC News 24, she found, wasn't carrying it at all, as it had better things to do (eg sport).


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Mar 25 - 01:28 PM

I don't know Bill King but this bit of writing is great. Shared on Facebook by a friend

"The State of Disunion
Adolph Trump Parties Like it's 1939
Bill King

I thought I could hang for the State of the Union, but who knew it would suddenly dissolve into the crime of the century? I’ve seen train wrecks with more dignity and bar fights with better choreography. This wasn’t just a speech—it was a séance summoning the ghosts of bad decisions past, present, and future.

Oh, please don’t rip the skin off transgender children. Please, men of no conscience or decency. Trump eats kids for lunch.

The worst vibe in a room? That’s an understatement. I’ve played dive bars at last call when the cash register came up short and seen less tension. The chamber had the energy of a family reunion where half the attendees are on speaking terms, and the other half are sharpening knives under the table. Even the network anchors—who usually coat these things in the language of "historic" and "monumental"—looked like they wanted to slip out for a smoke break.

And there, in the gallery, a vision of reluctant suffering: Melania Trump, digging through her purse like a woman searching for a last shred of patience, finally pulling out a travel-sized bottle of Pepto Bismol and taking a slow, contemplative swig. A metaphor so perfect it should be printed on the currency of whatever nation we become when this whole thing collapses.

The speech itself? A rambling odyssey of grievances and self-congratulations, punctuated by the kind of forced applause that makes hostage videos look cheerful. The camera panned the room, and you could see it: some folks were nodding, others were grinding their teeth, and a few just stared straight ahead, as if contemplating the life choices that led them here.

Growling like some Transylvanian vampire bat with the biblical undertones of Satan himself, Donald J. Trump stood at the podium, his jowls quivering, his hands—tiny, waxen, forever balled into impotent fists—gripping the edges of reality. It was a eulogy, they said, but for whom? The nation? Democracy? The last gasps of civility? Before he stood a congregation of the damned felons in flag pins, sycophants posing as statesmen, a parade of the morally bankrupt wrapped in star-spangled delusions.

To some, his voice was the fearsome roar of an apocalyptic beast; to others, a mere whimpering hedgehog, flattened and twitching under the weight of its own self-inflicted absurdities. On this very day, amidst the carnage of his own making, the bloated oracle of Mar-a-Lago slapped tariffs on Canada—America’s most loyal trade partner—because nothing says 'strong leadership' quite like gutting your neighbour’s pockets and setting your own house on fire. But did Canada kneel before the petulant man-child and his punitive fantasies? Not a chance. Instead, Justin Trudeau and Ontario Premier Doug Ford laced up their gloves and sent the Clown Prince of Grift stumbling backward with a counterpunch so fierce even the ghost of Ali took notice. Reverse tariffs? Oh, Canada, you magnificent bastards.

And then there was Ford, never a man of eloquence, suddenly transformed into a folk hero on MSNBC’s Nicole Wallace. Who would have guessed that the Premier, usually built more for beer tents than battle rings, would deliver the most memorable moment of his political career? Canadians could only dream of the day when their scrappy prime minister, would step into the ring with America’s puffy pretender, a man assembled from sausage casings and long-expired steakhouse cuts, and lay him out cold. Lights out, Donnie. No more cheap bourbon, no more well-done Trump steaks drowning in ketchup. Just a cold Canadian night and a warm glass of Newfoundland Screech, served with a side of consequences.

As Trump continued to spew his funhouse-mirror vision of reality, the last remaining brain cells in his cranium seemed to abandon ship, splattering across the podium in some kind of primal rebellion. The words came slurred and jumbled, half-chewed like the Big Mac still wedged between his back molars. Dear Nancy Pelosi we needed you? To rip up the nonsense, scatter the pieces, and let Mike Johnson’s pencil neck quiver under the weight of its own irrelevance? But no, Johnson—paperboy of no fixed address—sat in place, wide-eyed and obedient, having taken a rare break from mopping the Yellow Brick driveway at Mar-a-Lago to watch his master’s downward spiral.

And so it went, the great American farce playing on a loop. The Emperor, naked but for his spray tan and grievance, preaching to the choir of the morally embalmed. The nation’s eulogy, written in crayon, smudged with Diet Coke, destined to be torn apart by history’s steady hands.

Sorry folks. I had to cut out. Surviving this debacle requires a stomach of cast iron."


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 25 - 12:44 PM

The directing power behind the thrown of Elon Musk in the DODGE buzzsaw of cruelty is none other than Stephan Miller. Miller's wife also has a role in the mass firings. This emerging story is new this week, and there will be more to come.


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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Aethelric
Date: 05 Mar 25 - 10:51 AM

It seems to me that, under trump, the USA has now become the Rogue State of America.


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