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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: robomatic Date: 20 Feb 25 - 01:32 PM Given the intelligence of parrots and ravens, judging intelligence by size and weight alone must be in early stages. I spend time with a dog most days in and out of a dog park. She loves balls more than treats, and does a personaity 'flip' when there is a ball about. Meaning, she will get possessive and aggressive to other dogs when there is a ball in her mouth, as opposed to if we are walking her with no balls about, when she is 99% sweetheart. She loves loves loves chasing the ball, and she makes an effort to throw the ball back, with a flip of her head, not so much to put English on the ball (though I would not put it past her) as to give the ball some linear velocity. I think that most of us, and I don't think 'scientists' are exceptions, are still putting our prejudices into our experiments. I'm not at all convinced that dogs are less 'intelligent' than wolves. According to BBC Nova, dogs have learned to follow pointing fingers, and our ape cousins have not. Mind you, I can't get Nucknuck to follow my pointing finger to save her canine soul. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Donuel Date: 19 Feb 25 - 10:29 AM In New York, there was a recent chimera experiment where a certain human gene was spliced into mice. It turned out that the vocalization of the humanized mice were entirely different and from a human perspective, more melodic. Could humanized dogs get a similar speech gene? It is believed human speech developed somewhere between 40,000 and 200,000 years ago. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Donuel Date: 19 Feb 25 - 10:08 AM Using the brain size quotient, the human brain is 7 times larger than it needs to run a body of its size. Most other animals are rated a 1. The dolphin is rated a 4. I wonder what a dog is rated. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 17 Feb 25 - 11:00 AM Domestic dogs aren't working dogs, in the sense that sheepdogs, dogs for the blind, police dogs etc are. Methinks that most examples of "he can understand every word I say" are in fact the result of the dog training the owner, at least as much as the other way round. I've seen the relationship between dogkind and mankind described somewhere as a complicity (you guard my lambs, and I'll feed your pups); later on, companionship hitched a ride, and we arrive at the domestic wolf. On a related tangent: Many people think that dogs are more intelligent than cats, because it's harder* to train cats than dogs. I believe that cats are more intelligent than dogs for exactly the same reason. * But not impossible. Our cats know it's feeding time when I whistle for them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: gillymor Date: 17 Feb 25 - 10:51 AM Lol, that poor pooch. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Donuel Date: 17 Feb 25 - 10:46 AM well done |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Georgiansilver Date: 17 Feb 25 - 10:17 AM Of course dogs can talk. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Donuel Date: 16 Feb 25 - 07:56 AM My Abracalabrador is magical and is fairly wild but seems to meditate. I call him aware wolf. He eats pooched eggs for breakfast and has collar ID on his bone. But if you ask him anything about baseball he always says Ruth even if the correct answer is Ohtani. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Big Al Whittle Date: 15 Feb 25 - 06:49 PM I can't remember whether it was derek Brimstone or George melly who used to tell of an incident with Diz Disley in a posh tea shop. This lady on the next table said apropos her pooch, "you know we have whole conversations and i swear he understands every single word I say!" To which Diz said, "Yeh like woof fucking woof!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Donuel Date: 14 Feb 25 - 07:26 AM It is said wolves are smarter than dogs and many wolves self-domesticated to become dogs. I think dogs just have a different kind of empathetic intelligence and are not more stupid. In other words, wolves did not dumb down to make a partnership with humans. But I suppose it depends upon how stupid the human is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh Date: 10 Feb 25 - 10:23 AM Apropos, a book I really liked, long years ago, is "Archimedes and the Seagle" (sic) by John Ireland. The first sentence is memorable: "I wrote this book to show what dogs can do." ABCD |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 06 Feb 25 - 10:31 AM > dogs seem to be multilingual Of the dogs which belonged to one of Herself's relations in Belgium, one could be addressed in Belgian or Flemish, and the other refused to understand anything not said in French, due to their respective upbringings. The first, if addressed in German, would go for you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: keberoxu Date: 05 Feb 25 - 03:06 PM It also goes without saying that some dogs vocalize far more than others do. The little lap dogs can be yappy, while a golden retriever rarely raises its voice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Donuel Date: 05 Feb 25 - 08:04 AM Not only that, dogs seem to be multilingual depending upon what country they reside. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Feb 25 - 12:23 PM In Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmus, Elizabeth's dog Six-Thirty is able to learn almost 1,000 words. Elizabeth teaches him the words, and he talks to her like a child. I speak to my dog in complete sentences, and he seems to understand every word. His responses are not very complex, though. And I highly recommend the book. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Bill D Date: 02 Feb 25 - 10:56 AM I asked a dog what the outside of a tree was called. He said "bark" I asked him where his favorite toy, a ball, was. He said "Roof, roof." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Donuel Date: 02 Feb 25 - 10:46 AM I must say I am not being entirely satirical that you are here today because of thousands to near-impossible-infinite miracles. Some you can remember but most are secret. It's just accidental you are not an egret. It is not that odd for a dog to talk You get their point when they need a walk Rover |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 02 Feb 25 - 10:20 AM > "sausages" A combination of throat massage (by the owner) and wishful thinking (ditto). I'm not surprised it growled. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Big Al Whittle Date: 31 Jan 25 - 03:25 PM there was that dog on the Esther Rantzen programme who could say "sausages". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: gillymor Date: 31 Jan 25 - 10:32 AM If they could talk I'm sure they'd have a few choice words to say about neutering, leash laws and the exalted position of cats in the pet world. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Donuel Date: 31 Jan 25 - 07:27 AM Dogs vocalize sighs, different warnings, and excitement. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: keberoxu Date: 30 Jan 25 - 07:11 PM And in movies like "Babe", they can talk. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: keberoxu Date: 26 Jan 25 - 09:21 AM I don't know about talking, but they certainly can and do listen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Donuel Date: 23 Jan 25 - 08:30 AM Dogs have more loyalty and thinking than a 2 year old human child. They seem to have less talking ability. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Mr Red Date: 22 Jan 25 - 02:42 PM Donuel Pressing buttons isn't the dog talking, it is the button talking. The dog is associating the colour with an outcome or response. And it has to be learned. I have seen cats do it, though it usually results in a button saying "food" more often than not. I have heard many stories about sheepdogs responding to situations without command. And my GF's Jack Russel used to sleep on her aged father's bed and one night she started barking, right out of character, so we went to see him fallen out of bed. No training, just loyalty and thinking, and communicating. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: Doug Chadwick Date: 19 Jan 25 - 05:55 PM I used to have an Old English Sheepdog who mostly got his own way by sitting staring at me. If I didn't react quickly enough, he would resort to 'talking' just like Scooby Doo. DC |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can Dogs Talk From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 19 Jan 25 - 05:09 PM Reminds me of:
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Subject: RE: BS: CAN DOGS TALK From: Donuel Date: 18 Jan 25 - 11:35 AM Pressing word buttons like the facilitated communication by primates. |
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Subject: RE: BS: CAN DOGS TALK From: Mr Red Date: 18 Jan 25 - 10:48 AM Communicate? Yes Think? depends on the mutt listen? as long as food is attached Talk? er............ define talk |
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Subject: BS: CAN DOGS TALK From: Donuel Date: 18 Jan 25 - 07:00 AM https://www.yahoo.com/news/dogs-really-talk-owners-using-152339869.html |
