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BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4

MaJoC the Filk 01 Jun 25 - 06:17 AM
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Subject: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 01 Jun 25 - 06:17 AM

The Part 3 thread is getting close to the visibility limit. Let discussions continue here.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 03 Jun 25 - 08:30 AM

Refresh, to hoist above Part 3.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jun 25 - 03:32 PM

What are you trying to hoist? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Your intention can help address issues like high blood pressure.
A little pill is better than a stroke.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 04 Jun 25 - 12:34 PM

The chop-off limit for overlong threads is somewhere between 500 and 700, but I don't know quite where. I'm attempting to head off the vanishment (of the Part 3 thread) before it happens, ol' bean.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jun 25 - 12:44 PM

That'll work!


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jun 25 - 12:19 PM

I'm not an ol bean. I am a green soy has bean.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Jun 25 - 04:26 PM

Beggars can't be choosers - someone interested enough in the subject matter (wide / deep / shallow / profane) of these threads to keep them going is rare these days. Amos and Little Hawk/Chongo were big players back in the day. There are quite a few notables still around but who probably never drop in any more.

You can see fragments of the original MOAB but you find them by searching on the contributor - backtrack to their past posts and open any of them they shared on MOAB. It's an archaeological process these days.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jun 25 - 06:55 PM

Spaw ruled in original truthfulness.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jun 25 - 08:25 PM

Black hole technology makes for interesting sci-fi grist but I favor ultra high voltage engines that deal with plasma electrodynamics in a toroidal fashion. Tesla and dozens of inventors would agree that ultimate electric power generation has remarkable side benefits. The powers that be on Earth have dealt with those inventors with extreme prejudice.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 25 - 10:20 PM

Mom continues! She lives, and I have returned from the Great Basin.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Jun 25 - 10:47 PM

The Great Basin? That's a rather broad swath of the western US even for a swathbuckler like you. Did you visit a particular portion of it?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jun 25 - 07:01 AM

Isn't the Great Salt Lake puddle part of the Great Basin?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jun 25 - 10:59 AM

I trekked every square millimeter of it. I couldn’t go above 15,000 feet of elevation however. Overall it was a good trip, much of it spent under the Dark Skies of the NP.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bei mir bist do schön
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 25 - 03:54 PM

Of all the goys I've known, and I've known some
When I first met you, you were loathsome
And when you came down the escalator
This new world became as old as yourself

You're really swell-headed, and ignorant
Deserving expressions that really fit you
And so I've racked my brain, hoping to explain
All the things that you do to me

My dear Mister Trump, with small hands and a stump
My dear Mister Trump, you are a grump
My dear Mister Trump, again I'll explain
I mean you're the least fair in the land

u will never understand


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Jun 25 - 05:45 PM

WHAT are you doing waaaaaay down at the bottom? Get up where the people are and stay there.


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Subject: RE: All in the family part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jun 25 - 07:03 PM

Boy, the way Bing Crosby played
golf that made his driver fade
Guys like me we had it made
Those were the days
Didn't need abortion fate
ev'rybody pulled his weight
gee our Oldsmobile ran great
Those were the days
And you knew who you were then
girls were girls and men were men
Mister we could use a man like Gen'ral Jackson again
People seemed to be content
fifty dollars paid the rent
freaks lived in a circus tent
Those were the days
Take a little Sunday spin
go to watch the Yankees win
or have yourself a lynching day
where white folks wore a big grin
those were the days
Hair was short and skirts were long
Kate Smith really sold a song
I know exactly what went wrong
Those were the days
The Klan had a really nifty plan
Everybody understands
what their place is in this land
Those were the days

Now that UFOs are real
What's the big fat hairy deal
They've been here all along
Those were the days.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 07:03 AM

Opposite-spinning toroidal plasma creates an electrodynamic gravity repulsion that also generates massive amounts of electricity in a very small generator. We all could have one if it wasn't for oil company repression,


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 11:07 AM

And the temperature of the reaction?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 07:03 PM

I'm lucky to just spell toroidal but the temps are not like those of fusion. Plasma is hot but not impossibly hot in such small amounts.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 07:14 PM

A large generator would ionize the air around it in a bright light field, which could be insulated against... somehow.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 08:04 PM

Vera Rubin is FINALLY honored as one of the most important astronomers of our times.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/23/nx-s1-5355034/vera-c-rubin-observatory-first-images


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 10:23 PM

Note in picture 2 that the two large white galaxies are spinning in opposite directions...


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jun 25 - 11:01 AM

So far all our deep space probes and Mars rovers have used radioisotope electric generators. The next generation of electric generators will be these toroidal plasma electric generators, which are, candidly, more reverse-engineered technology than not.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jun 25 - 12:22 PM

I've been looking around YouTube this morning for an old lecture by an old guy that I'm sure gnu originally shared with us years ago. To do with how gravity fed water can create great pressure, but it wasn't a lecture about hydroelectric dams. It was on a much smaller scale.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 25 Jun 25 - 12:55 PM

You're right, Stilly, though I *think* I got the information by following a lead down the rabbit hole in Wikipedia the other month. It's not volume you need to create great static pressure, just height and gravity; from memory, that trick was used in mining in antiquity.

--- Gotcha: Ruina montium, linked from the Pascal's Barrel reference. Is that the basic information you were after?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jun 25 - 01:09 PM

That was quick - and getting very close. Yes, I remembered the discussion of artesian wells in the lecture, and the reference to ancient uses. He was applying it to the generation of power (probably to turn turbines or create steam) but it wasn't hydropower. I don't see a link to the lecture - he explained it clearly, and that's what I'm going for.

MOM says you earned yourself a beer out on the screened in porch. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jun 25 - 07:28 PM

The Roman aquaducts used part of this principle to make water go uphill.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jun 25 - 03:59 PM

Friend and guardian of the forests, friend of man's best friends, and part of the garrison to protect artifacts, this person lends a hand without fanfare. Experienced in the sacrifice of parenting, sustenance has become a masterful art from the earth to the table. Policing those who should be friends and teaching how to simplify home environments, there is an ever-growing expertise in research. When two dimensions are not enough, three dimensions open a new understanding. I am a volunteer's volunteer, like an artist who is an actor's actor.
Who am I?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jun 25 - 01:18 PM

If the plane you are on flies through a cloud you probably felt a bumpy ride. When you consider that an average cumulus cloud weighs about a million pounds the wild ride is easy to understand.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jun 25 - 05:19 PM

The growing application of nuclear power has introduced the problem of materials changed by exposure to high-energy nuclear radiation. The steels that make up the primary containment vessels of nuclear reactors may undergo progressive embrittlement with neutron bombardment. Embrittlement is relative and may be small or large; it is important in either case because of the major function served by the vessel and the economic implications of overly conservative design and operating practice as a result of uncertainties.

A hydrogen bubble at 3 Mile Island did not blow up the reactor, but it did at Fukushima and Chernobyl. Today, there is a spherical form of nuclear fuel that will not melt down, but it will not be used at the newly proposed nuclear plant on the shores of Lake Ontario. There are several nuke plants on the shore of Lake Ontario, including Ginna and Nine Mile Point. Ginna is so old that it should have been shut down 30 years ago, but it is still going.

I guess this is part of the Trump drill baby drill fanaticism, but like war, it is a racket that makes money for a few and can have ruinous consequences for millions of others for a very long time.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jun 25 - 06:29 PM

3 Mile Island did have a hydrogen burn heard as a loud Thump clear across the river, but did not have a supersonic explosion.
The billion-dollar EPA clean-up is far from finished, so I wonder if the Trump cuts will leave the melted fuel in the middle of the Susquehanna River.

I lived upriver from the plant and felt a highly unusual nausea in my spine after day 1. I went to California for the week.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jul 25 - 10:01 AM

Okay, MOM. It’s just two months before I go to Nome. I’ll check on that ladies’ boarding house you ran there.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Jul 25 - 10:43 AM

An uncle had a gold mine in Alaska somewhere. Now might be the time to check it out.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jul 25 - 04:31 PM

https://www.mapquest.com/us/alaska/womens-shelter-352818593


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jul 25 - 05:55 AM

This is Final Tap with the deficit turned up to 11.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jul 25 - 06:31 AM

Mr. ICE vigilante


You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear of kicked children
Out of our world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say I should go
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm smarter than you
That even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good?
Will it buy you forgiveness?
Do you think that it could?
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death will come soon
I'll follow your casket
By the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand over your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

Bob Dylan


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 10:39 AM

It turns out that I am younger than the youngest member of Black Sabbath on their last comeback concert. I bet the band and audience all have hearing aids.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jul 25 - 12:50 PM

The mayor of Kerrville TX was told not to mention that there was no 1 AM phone warning of the flood until 5 AM at the Governor's press conference.

The Trump decimation of the weather service and all the science climate groups and responders like FEMA was to eliminate mention of climate change and put that money toward the wealthy tax cuts.
No one told Trump to think it through. Now he says the weather service did their job.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 Jul 25 - 02:17 PM

> I bet the band and audience all have hearing aids.

.... turned up to 11.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jul 25 - 10:05 AM

Hold onto your illusions of beauty and joy.
Teachers, religions, and politicians grew
limitations to freedom meant to destroy.
The sky can be any color, not just blue.

but beauty belongs to you.

The most glorious truths are illusions
That does not mean they're not real.
Life in the sea and land aren't delusions.
They are as real as the way you feel.

but beauty belongs to you.

We are just an interface that translates.
Reality goes farther than we can see
Illusions like the heavenly gates
for some is as real as can be.

but beauty belongs to you.



donuel


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jul 25 - 12:40 PM

MOM is intrigued that there is a large orb spider web on the screen porch. It's near the porchlight, so applicants present themselves for the dinner menu nightly. Watching a spider eat beetles is more entertaining than politics and other social activities these days.


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