Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 09 Jan 26 - 08:02 AM

Here is Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal speaking to the House Committee about the Minneapolis murder, and shedding light on the barefaced lies of Noem and the fat, orange baboon. Good on you, Congresswoman!

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jan 26 - 05:44 AM

ICE ambushed Ms. Good by first blocking her with a minivan, causing her to seek an exit. Last year, I called ICE a new Gestapo. It is living up to Gestapo standards. She was guilty of blowing a whistle to warn neighbors of ICE activity. This all took place 7 blocks away from where George Floyd was murdered by police.

Identical to Germany's first detention camp, Dachau, and every subsequent concentration camp, they allowed no mayor or judicial visits. This is identical for US ICE detention centers.

A normalization of martial law tactics will increase up to the next Presidential election coup when the main event will occur.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Helen
Date: 09 Jan 26 - 04:45 AM

Sorry: typo. Point blank. (I had the "p" upside down - vertical mirror image. Darn this dyslexia! I usually check my typing before hitting the submit button.)

Also, two people have been injured after being shot by US Border Agents in Portland, OR.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 09 Jan 26 - 02:37 AM

Really sorry to see on tv the shooting through the front windscreen of a an ordinary woman going about daily chores

tv shows a partial U turn and an ICE armed soldier run up to the side of her car she tried to complete her journey home and not clear from the tv but ANOTHER soldier it seems shot through the front wind screen

The question is was this part of ICE's brief? Was there evidence that she was an illegal

Minnesota rulers were rightly incensed and yet another instance of misrule

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Helen
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 06:38 PM

Well, the video I saw on the ABC (Oz) News site shows no-one being run over or impacted by the vehicle which was being driven slowly in an attempt to make a U-turn, and no obvious cause for the ICE guy to fire point plank into the victim's head, at least three times.

I just watched the two most recently aired (in Oz) episodes of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. A lot of pointed observations were made and one brief comment was that Trump threatened to take action against Iran if any peaceful protesters were injured or killed.

Pot? Kettle? Black? One story for others and another for himself.

Journalist and author Chris Hayes was interviewed and he had some very specific and thought-provoking comments. Well worth watching.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 06:35 PM

I swear this is the last one.

From the New York Times yesterday:

"Asked in a wide-ranging interview with The New York Times if there were any limits on his global powers, Mr. Trump said: 'Yeah, there is one thing. My own morality. My own mind. It’s the only thing that can stop me....'

“'I don’t need international law'.”

That pretty much lays his cards on the table.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 06:28 PM

One more comment. The President of the United States on his special website explains what happened:


“The woman screaming [after the shooting] was, obviously, a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital. We need to stand by and protect our Law Enforcement Officers from this Radical Left Movement of Violence and Hate!”

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 06:23 PM

Her ex-husband has also described her as a "devout Christian."

Possibly different from a "MAGA Christian."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 06:11 PM

Karoline Leavitt: [The incident] "occurred as a result of a larger, sinister left-wing movement that has spread across our country" [and put federal immigration agents] "under organized attack."

MAGA supporters marched peacefully on the Capitol yesterday in honor of Ashli Babbitt, the career USAF veteran killed by a police officer while violently smashing into the Speaker's Lobby of the House of Representatives in the forefront of a mob, despite urgent warnings at gunpoint.

The President has described Ms. Babbitt a great patriot.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 06:09 PM

Turns out that Good was actually a "37-year-old mother of three."

The back seat of her SUV was filled with stuffed toys for her kids.

Sounds a lot more normal, doesn't it?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 05:31 PM

Fighting a big brother Orwellian dictator is not easy.
However they do depend on our despair as their most effective cheap weapon. Do not despair. More people are believing their eyes and ears.

Yes, the Federal Kash PATEL FBI has taken over the Twin City killing investigation, so Governor Walsh and the mayor may not interfere, but they will interfere with the truth. If I know those local officials, the federal Trump propaganda will be opposed.

The governor has called out the National Guard. Will the National Guard end up fighting ICE????????? That would be a trip.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 04:07 PM

US DOJ Policy on Use of Lethal Force

SpecifIcally, Section A, Points 1 and 2 refer. Seems perfectly clear that the ICE officer is guilty of breaking the rules set out in the Policy.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 04:05 PM

> "deranged leftist"

I refer you to Accusation in a Mirror, an expression which it turns out has a long history. It more neatly encapsulates my idea that sinners always accuse others of the sins which they (the accusers) are most familiar with, from the inside, because they're their own.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 03:48 PM

--- oops: I inadvertently used a pronoun.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 03:46 PM

Hm: Nothing will "lend aid and comfort to domestic terrorists" like giving them absolute impunity.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 03:42 PM

The only ‘deranged’ ones are the fat, ugly, orange baboon and those he surrounds himself with. Even in the gun-crazy US, fleeing from law officers does not carry a summary death-sentence. Why couldn’t that ICE guy have moved aside and let Renée Good’s car pass him by? Why was it necessary to carry out a summary execution?

The US is fucked, completely, absolutely, and utterly.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 03:42 PM

> "absolute immunity"

I saw that, and thought they didn't know how to spell "impunity". Like Führer, like stormtrooper.

.... Herself is attempting to detox from the news by watching PBS America, which as usual (and fittingly) is full of Third-Reich documentaries. It occurred to me that, *when* this nonsense in the USSA ends, there should be some equivalent to the Nuremberg trials .... then that the future equivalent to such documentaries covering this era will be narrated in Mandarin.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 03:27 PM

Vance on X:

"Do you think this officer was wrong in defending his life against a deranged leftist who tried to run him over?”

Of course not! (If that's what happened....)

All Democrats are now called "leftists," which in my day was pretty much restricted to socialists and communists.

And not just "leftists": "deranged leftists." This has become a usual phrase. I can't recall even Khrushchev at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis being described as a "deranged" leftist.

And, of course, we don't know if Renee Good was even a Democrat.

(Dems, by the way, who, Stephen Miller warns, "lend aid and comfort to domestic terrorists" like Renee Good.)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 03:14 PM

The VP now says the agent has "absolute immunity" from prosecution because he was "engaging in federal law enforcement action."

So that's that.

Interesting argument.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 02:56 PM

Jesse Watters's viewers won't care too much how many children she has. It won't register.

"Self-proclaimed," "poet," "Colorado" [a blue state]," "pronouns in her bio" paint her as a far-left, possibly LGBTQ, weirdo. "Lost her life" not "was killed." Meaning: "sad, but she should have behaved herself." (Weirdos don't often do so.)

The diction is prejudicial: charged language, argument from verbal connotation. Perhaps Fox's broader coverage was fairer (I haven't been listening). Contrast the effect of "a 37-year-old mom from Colorado, whose ex-husband told Fox [as he did CNN] that she'd never taken part in a political protest."

We all use "pronouns." But Fox means a very special kind of pronoun. Otherwise, why even mention?

The Vice-President has very emphatically said that she "lost her life because she tried to ram somebody with a car." Videos from various angles make this statement doubtful at best.

However, because DHS and the President have already called the incident an "act of domestic terrorism," charges almost certainly will never be brought.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 02:55 PM

--- Ah: the bletherings and forbiddings are all part of the plan: it's all a wind-up exercise. If and when the Democrats can be accused, however falsely, of inciting or (better) initiating violence, bingo! one Caesar-ready state of emergency.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 02:27 PM

Update: the Felon-in-Chief has put his thumb down on the information flow required for a proper investigation of the shooting. Much rabble-rousing turditude from the Vice-Felon, which I carefully decline to listen to. Anyone would think they both know they've something to hide.

Meanwhile, back at the threats to Greenland: Might Denmark's best reply be a flotilla of Viking longboats being rowed up the Potomac, and someone in a horned* helmet setting fire to the White House? but I forget: the Narcissus in Chief has preempted any such move by starting his own Götterdämmerung exercise with JCBs.

.... Sigh: everything that happens is a distraction from everything else that's happening.

* Anachronistic, but His Ripeness wouldn't recognise a Viking without them.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 12:07 PM

Lighter, I finally caught the drift that FOX gnus is calling the victim a worthless lesbian.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 12:03 PM

I was watching an episode of Rick Steves travel program and the visit was to Versailles and Fontainebleau in particular, with a look at the sub-palace behind Versailles and Marie Antoinette's "farm." Trump has many similarities to Louis XVI as someone so vain and dedicated to his own wealth and comfort. Instead of tanks rolling through Washington, D.C., a lot of people would appreciate the sound of tumbrels. I'll bring the yarn and knitting needles.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 12:01 PM

If Lighter thinks he/them is outing the victim,
she was also the mother of a six-year-old.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 11:56 AM

Just heard on UK news: The FBI and some other agency are declining to investigate the shooting in question. Any solid info on that, folks?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 11:55 AM

Start spreading fake news, you're tweeting today
You want to be a part of it, DC, DC
Your kanclebound shoes, they are longing to stray
And schlep around the heart of it, DC, DC
I wanna wake up in that city, that gives the creeps
And find your king of the hill, top of the heap

Your small Queens blues, they're melting away
You'll make a brand-new grift of it, in old DC
If you can make it there, you'll make it anywhere
It's up to you, DC, DC

You better believe it, folks
If you can make it there, you'll make it anywhere
Come on, come on through
dictator swindler
King of the world,

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 09:08 AM

Fox News:

“The woman who lost her life was a self-proclaimed poet from Colorado with pronouns in her bio.”

Catch the drift?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 08:40 AM

“AMERICA IS A GUN

England is a cup of tea.
France, a wheel of ripened brie.
Greece, a short, squat olive tree.
America is a gun.

Brazil is football on the sand.
Argentina, Maradona’s hand.
Germany, an oompah band.
America is a gun.

Holland is a wooden shoe.
Hungary, a goulash stew.
Australia, a kangaroo.
America is a gun.

Japan is a thermal spring.
Scotland is a highland fling.
Oh, better to be anything than
America as a gun.”

By Brian Bilston

Nothing ever changes, does it?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 08:34 AM

I am thankful that Ms. Good, who was shot three times in the face by ICE, is not being shown being dragged from the minivan and being laid in the snow.

They do show a physician at the scene being denied giving any medical help to the victim or even checking for a pulse.

The administration is claiming that once again, leftist domestic terrorist Democrats are to blame.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 08:12 AM

Trump puts a hold on 10 billion dollars in child care. It concerns the democratic states of California, Colorado, New York, and Illinois.

The 2025 Project Trump deconstructionists might fear that Trump is near his decomposition/death, and they must do everything, everywhere, all at once, while he is still above ground.

In my neighborhood, the Goddard Space Library is being dismantled, and sensitive instruments are being roughly moved by amateurs. This is where our top space scientists used to collaborate and conduct advanced research.

If Trump disappears for a long time, my speculation may prove correct, like in the movie Dave, but without an imposter.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 06:55 AM

yes

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 04:05 AM

Indicative of the times under dictators of the past

Is this US of A?

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Jan 26 - 02:15 AM

the latest shooting of a woman by immgration officewr is outrageous

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 10:52 PM

Donuel Thank's for the link that I have passed on to many. Trump and his yes men continue to be showed as liars now.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 06:39 PM

It took Chancellor Hitler 6 months to abolish Democracy with the aid of mass murder. The mass arrests of opposition parties, with 4,000 arrests on one day and 20,000 in the weeks to come, silenced citizens.

Trump's ICE is ill-prepared to do the same in America, at least not without a Reichstag fire-style con job. The National Guard has already started practicing for martial law with their deployment without cause in American cities. Trump behaves as if he has an enabling act to carry out formerly illegal acts.

The number of ICE sponsored murders are increasing as if by design.
do not click if you do not want to witness murder

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 11:01 AM

It's outright theft of the natural resources by Trump, who will no doubt take a cut of the profits. It seems King isn't enough, he wants to be Emperor of the New World (including Greenland). If Canada wants to arrest Trump and put him on trial I'm fine with it.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 10:41 AM

Piracy on the High seas?

Siege of Venezuela to start presumably to starve native Venezuelans to surrender to the new order of a "puppet" of the US for oil?

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 10:41 AM

MaJoc, be sure to consult Aesop's "The Wolf and the Lamb" and especially Thucydides' "Melian Dialogue."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 09:10 AM

I said ages ago that he will do anything to prevent Democrats taking either house in November. Correct me if I am wrong but a brief check seemed to reveal that the president has the constitutional power to suspended elections in time of war.

Just saying...

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 08:11 AM

A chain of comments on an ElReg article:

In a system called democracy, society should not just "have to adapt" to any minority-made (i.e. billionaire-made) life- and world-changing developments...

"a system called democracy" != "democracy"

This fact has been the source of some confusion in the US of A for many many years. Even the POTUS has problems with it.

Surprised no one has piped up with "it's a republic, not a democracy" yet.

'cause it is an Empire, not a republic.

[side thread on Star Wars]

Any mention of "Empire" in the context should be followed by the "no clothes" bit. It just fits.

Oh, his dementia is already this far? **checking** Oh, not yet, but it wouldn't surprise me...

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 07:05 AM

*Agree* in spades, Aethelric.

I took the time to look up Thucydides (thanks, Lighter), and the expression "fear and self-interest" jumped out at me. It then occurred to me that the ultimate con is to stampede victims into doing things which are against their self-interest, traditionally by pushing the Fear button hard and often enough. This thread and its predecessors are awash with examples. The counter-spell of course is knowledge, and guess what the first action of a budding dictator will be --- ?

.... Methinks the arrival of the Grim Squeaker at (the rubble of) the White House is well overdue.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Aethelric
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 03:37 AM

Invading Venezuela and threatening to annexe Greenland are huge successes. Nobody is talking about Epstein now. Mission accomplished.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 03:18 AM

According to ‘Daily Express US’ on FB, the fat, orange baboon is now suggesting the cancellation of the upcoming mid-term elections, saying that the Democrats ‘don’t deserve to compete’.

It’s 1930s/40s Germany all over again. Why isn’t anyone doing anything about it?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 07 Jan 26 - 02:21 AM

Free speech is being attacked it seems with police backing and connivance IF the evidence of the 22 tear old who had criticised ** is to be believed (Yahoo news)

US is becoming a police state?

Should contracts be made under duress and with someone who has acted "without" the International law?

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 04:15 PM

I completely agree DtG, those were my exact thoughts when I read Nigel’s post.
Happy New Year to both you and Nigel!

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 02:24 PM

79% of Americans believe the US is doing wrong.
   MSNOW reports

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 02:05 PM

I think we all have a lot more in common that a lot of people seem to think. Strip away the irrelevancies (sp?) of party politics and most on here are caring people who will help others in need. There are the trolls of course but even those may have some good qualities. Occasionaly :-)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 11:30 AM

That’s fine, Nigel - it does us good, I believe, to occasionally find ourselves in agreement with those whose politics generally differ from our own, it’s a confirmation that not everything is as black and white as we otherwise might believe it to be.

Either way, please carry on!

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Jan 26 - 07:02 AM

Backwoodsman:
Yes!

Unfortunately: The Kingdom of Denmark - and therefore Greenland - is a part of NATO and is therefore covered by the alliance's security guarantee.
Ukraine also had a guarantee from UK, Russia, AND USA secured as part of their giving up their nuclear arms.
Guarantees to some people are not worth the paper they are written on

Sorry to have to agree with you.
Normal service will resume . . .