Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 24 Jan 26 - 04:06 AM

"At a hearing in November, the majority of the justices, including several conservatives, expressed doubts over the White House's justification for the import duties, which the president has claimed are necessary to restore America's manufacturing base and fix its trade imbalance" MSN

So US importer will pay the inflated Tariff ~ they should be jumping up and down!!

The supplier will see less in the way of Sales ~ hence US supposedly will make those items in the US ~ well if someone can? set up times? etc suspect too many expectations

The REPAYMENT of collected illegal tariff money's will be a night mare but then the legal team will enact ~ or not parent Act to enable

Trump is a nightmare

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 09:30 PM

The crass Trump continues to decry what the USA used to stand for with his inane rambles at DAVOS for all the world to see. Now we have his NATO allies "stayed behind the lines in Afghanistan" Many were on the front line including the son of the King of England. Nice one from a president who avoided the Vietnam draft five times! Even worse NATO was the only one time they were needed after 9/11. His mew PEACE plan with Putin there and Canada excluded helps to weaken NATO. I hope America stops his damage soonest.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 06:41 PM

Piss wars II aside.

Global extortion and larceny are in full swing, not for the USA but for Mr. T and associates. Joining the Trump cartel for billionaires is easier than doing scams on your own, which is done with big bank approval.

It will persist until jail, do we part, or a massive stroke.
After T passes, criminals will still extort on their own.

What is unkown is where he will be buried. It won't be Arlington but it could be a golf course.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 06:07 PM

Yep, fine with me Doug. Thanks.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 03:53 PM

From: Backwoodsman - PM
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 01:38 PM

......................

Subject closed.


BWM, pax?

DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 01:47 PM

As a 79 year-old country bumpkin from the Backwoods, I frequently come across expressions I don’t understand but, instead of wasting bandwidth by pissing and moaning at the ones using the expression, I research it for myself. It helps to keep my brain sharp, and it avoids pissing other posters off.

Others would be well advised to follow my example - it really isn’t very difficult.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 01:38 PM

Here you go, Helen. Took me all of ten seconds to find it.

Subject closed.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Helen
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 01:28 PM

Sorry to say, BWM, but I agree with Doug C on this. I had NFI what you were referring to, and if an ex-librarian doesn't have enough info to make a search, that could be telling you something. ?? LOL


UK PM Keir Starmer demands Donald Trump apologise for 'appalling' claim NATO troops swerved frontline

"In short: Veterans, NATO leaders and Prince Harry have reacted with anger after US President Donald Trump said veterans from other NATO member states avoided the frontline in Afghanistan.

"British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said the comments were 'insulting and frankly appalling' and has called on Mr Trump to apologise.

"Article 5 of the NATO treaty, which states an attack on one is an attack on all, has been invoked only once — following the September 11, 2001 attacks — after which European allies responded by joining the US-led mission in Afghanistan."

And another ABC(Oz) article which shows tRump's attempts to gild the lily:

US officials tout 'New Gaza' plans filled with shiny luxury skyscrapers

What a surprise! (Not!)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 12:16 PM

UK PM Starmer has said that the Commander-in-Chief Bonespurs’ comments are ‘insulting and appalling’ and has suggested an apology should be forthcoming.

Anyone taking bets on it happening? I’m not holding my breath…

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 10:43 AM

I refer the Assembled to Charmion's observation in the current Declutter thread. We are not alone.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 08:46 AM

And here’s a more complete piece from BBC Question Time showing the responses of the other guests on the panel. Apart from the American member, all were in agreement that a line had been crossed in the past week or so, and that the European nations were right to stand together in solidarity against tRump.

My question would be, given his history of cheating on his wives and his employees, his stiffing of sub-contractors, and his treachery against his own staff in government, why is anyone surprised by his appalling behaviour towards other NATO member-countries, and his insulting comments against their forces who did something he never had courage to be involved in?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 08:11 AM

The FUOB has been opening his flappy mouth again without first engaging whatever small amount of brain he possesses. This time he has claimed that NATO troops avoided serving on the ‘front line’ in Afghanistan, clearly having no clue about the British presence in Helmand Province, where they lost 457 lives.

Here’s British MP, Emily Thornberry, in glorious flight on the BBC’s ‘Question Time’ telling it precisely how it is.

It really is time that senile old fool was removed from the Presidency. He’s making the US not just a laughing stock, but arguably the country most hated by the rest of the world.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 06:08 AM

Let Google be your friend. Look it up yourself, that’s what I do

I did look it up, as I said upthread. I got half a dozen references, none of which related to the subject in question, which is why I axked you for an explanation.



Invoke the 25th Amendment, and you get Vance.

If Trump gets removed because of his unreasonable behaviour, Vance couldn't carry on in the same vein witnout risking being removed himself, in turn. I'd go with Vance over what we have now.


DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Hrothgar
Date: 23 Jan 26 - 04:55 AM

Invoke the 25th Amendment, and you get Vance. Is this an improvement? I must agree that he can't be much worse.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 02:24 PM

Let Google be your friend. Look it up yourself, that’s what I do.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 02:14 PM

Not trying to score points - just asking for clarity.

DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 10:21 AM

”Well, ............ yes it is. If I hadn't had time on my hands, I probably would have let it go and still have been none the wiser. Good communication is the responsibility of the writer, not the reader.

We obviously have a different view on what constitutes ‘difficult’ Doug. If I find myself not understanding a colloquialism in someone’s post, I rather enjoy the process of finding the meaning and, in so doing, expanding my own knowledge a little. Twenty seconds or so with my preferred search-engine usually sorts it out for me, without this kind of to-ing and fro-ing and attempting to score points. It’s completely unnecessary, and adds nothing to the discussion on the thread.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 10:17 AM

There was a reference earlier to 25A; the Twenty-fifth amendment to the US Constitution allows his cabinet to remove him if they all think he is unable to serve. But his cabinet is bonkers so that isn't going to happen. They are his enablers.

If people keep dropping in with short little meaningless "me, too" quips we're going to have to start a new thread (before this hits 700). Think about if it really needs to be posted, or if you can save it up and put in two or three thoughts at a time.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 08:57 AM

Thanks, BWM.

Our great minds think alike.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 08:09 AM

”BWM, is that "box of frogs" thing a Brit folk expression?
Or your own genius?”

It’s an expression in fairly common use in the UK, in common with others of that ilk, e.g. ‘mad as a hatter’…

https://wordhistories.net/2024/04/03/box-of-frogs-british/

For the record, I have never claimed to possess the characteristic of genius, but I’m flattered that you have elected to view me as falling in that category.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 07:37 AM

imo The whole Greenland thing is just a diversion to distract from the new Government break in of private US homes.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 07:33 AM

ARE YOU BORED OF PEACE?
Join the 'Board of Peace'
if you know whats good for you.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 07:28 AM

BWM, is that "box of frogs" thing a Brit folk expression?

Or your own genius?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 07:27 AM

Nice country you have there. If you pay us a billion or so, you can join the Trump Peace Plan and feel protected.

The so-called ICE administrative warrant is a secret that does not need to be publicized, so the date can be added at any time after a home break-in. This White House memo was recently accidentally discovered.


IF a President had the power to lower interest rates before an election, he could heat up the economy before an election. Only afterward would inflation or runaway inflation occur after the election. This is why Mr. T wants to control the independent Fed.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 07:19 AM

Not difficult is it?

Well, ............ yes it is. If I hadn't had time on my hands, I probably would have let it go and still have been none the wiser. Good communication is the responsibility of the writer, not the reader.

DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 07:09 AM

Well done Dougie-boy. Not difficult is it?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 06:46 AM

Care to give us a clue, BWM?

OK, I've worked it out - 25th ammendment.

DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 06:36 AM

DJT's US is a amok with lawlessness ~ and he is jousting for a gong with his World Peace organisation ~ he simply wants ALL the World at his beck and call

He is a BAD man

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 06:23 AM

Remember, DOGE busted into private buildings without a warrant so now ICE amateur agents can break down doors.

Mr. T did not like it when the FBI, with a warrant, recovered 1,000 pounds of classified documents from Mara Lago.

ICE is in full Gestapo mode, however, they use buses and planes instead of train cattle cars.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 06:02 AM

Trump rules the world threads should appear in the UK topic.

Mr T has a notion for a conceptual framework for a Greenland or Iceland BIG deal. It is too complex for mere peons to understand.

W.H. MENO: American homes/domiciles may now be breached and destroyed by ICE agents at their discretion or whim, WITHOUT ANY WARRANT.
In America, a man's home is meaningless and without previous Constitutional protection.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 04:55 AM

25A, the sooner the better!


I looked up "25A" and the first reference was to "Regulation 25A of the UK Building Regulations (energy efficiency)" , so it can't be that. There was a reference to the VC-25A aircraft, also known as Air Force One, which is a more likely connection but, even so:

    Air Force One, the sooner the better!

doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.

Care to give us a clue, BWM?

DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 03:08 AM

He’s as mad as a box of frogs. 25A, the sooner the better!

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 22 Jan 26 - 02:37 AM

He had better not claim any medals for this incident of his own making!

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 11:40 PM

So Biden called Volodymyr Zelenskyy Putin. Now the Trump calls Greenland Iceland with blatant lies on his longest speech bore again. I hope a great USA can find a worthy president soonest then. With hope that a fond regard for America can be restored

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Helen
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 08:57 PM

Hey Hrothgar, stop giving them ideas. They have enough cunning and dastardly plans already.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Hrothgar
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 07:50 PM

When is somebody at the Justice Department going to say "There was nothing of interest in the Epstein files, so we have shredded them"?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 06:23 PM

If all goes as it should and the turnip is sent for composting at some time in the near future, will anything be done to make sure that this can never happen again? If so, what? It is of particular interest to us in the UK because we have the opportunity to make sure that it does not happen in the first place!

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 02:41 PM

Europe holds the trump card as the US faces a mountain of debt Mark Carney summed it up neatly. The "rules-based global order" was no more and it was time to wake up, Canada's prime minister told the annual gathering of the rich and richer in the Swiss ski resort of Davos.

America's worldview has shifted. Rather than rely upon a network of staunch allies, as it has done for the past eight decades, it has reverted to an ethos more akin to the law of the jungle, where the strongest impose their will at their pleasure.

The US attacks on Venezuela, the kidnapping of its president and the unrelenting demands for Denmark to hand over Greenland have stunned those in diplomatic circles in recent weeks.

That's paralleled the vicious attacks on the US Federal Reserve and its leadership, which have rattled global investors.

"Call the system what it is: a period where the most powerful pursue their interests using economic integration as a weapon of coercion," the Canadian leader told the World Economic Forum.

Carney knows, more than most, exactly how that system works.

As the former head of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England, he's well aware of the geopolitical threat US President Donald Trump's dramatic policy shifts impose on global stability.

But Carney is also acutely aware of America's great vulnerability. That's why he is prepared to face up to Trump   ...

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 10:36 AM

This from the article I linked:

President Trump has never been a man to ask what he can do for his country. In his second term, as in his first, he is instead testing the limits of what his country can do for him.

He has poured his energy and creativity into the exploitation of the presidency — into finding out just how much money people, corporations and other nations are willing to put into his pockets in hopes of bending the power of the government to the service of their interests.

A review by the editorial board relying on analyses from news organizations shows that Mr. Trump has used the office of the presidency to make at least $1.4 billion. We know this number to be an underestimate because some of his profits remain hidden from public view. And they continue to grow.

His expansionism is for the same reason, to tilt world coffers in his direction to roll directly into his pockets. Much of the crap we're hearing is window dressing (and still trying to block the Epstein files, in which how many under-18 girls will be in evidence as having been raped by the Donald. Even he seems to understand that is a bridge too far.)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 07:45 AM

Heh, heh. I beat Carney to the punch back on Jan. 7 with Thucydides' "Melian Dialogue," whose timeless statement is "The strong take what they can. The weak give what they must."

The whole passage is worth checking out.

As for "The Wolf and the Lamb," Aesop's moral is "The unjust care not for the reasoning of the innocent."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 02:15 AM

"The strong can do what they want whilst the poor must suffer" Mark Carney at WEF

When "dictators" are unchecked they can wreak havoc in the World Order ~ Laws are made to try to offset " A frolic of his own" Supreme Court decision on legality on Exec Orders without appropriate Parent Act will have repercussions ~ DJT must be reeled back in his enthusiasm

I think aim will boil down to Europe being galvanised into increasing armed forces ~ Against Trump for god's sake!

Trump's aim of course "owt for nowt" if US not paying!!
Trump will wish to profit via access to minerals and and Putin will have a laugh

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Helen
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 02:07 AM

You know what, BWM? I heard some of Keir Starmer's speech and I thought exactly the same: measured, coherent, statesmanlike, brilliant.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 01:29 AM

For anyone who didn’t see and hear the speech by Canadian PM, Mark Carney, in Davos yesterday, here it is in full.. I recommend giving it a listen - measured, coherent, statesmanlike, brilliant. A road-map for the rest of the world to survive the expansionism and all-consuming self-interest of the current US regime.

Such a refreshing change from the rambling, babbling, word-salad nonsense we hear from the spiteful, bullying, barely-literate war-monger who infests the White House.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jan 26 - 12:28 AM

A gift article from the New York Times. I'll turn it into a link later if this doesn't work from my phone. How Much Can One Man Make From Being President?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jan 26 - 03:35 PM

Part of that is the Electoral College, put in place when the slave-holding states wanted more power for themselves without freeing or giving the vote to slaves. The "swing states" in the electoral college are what gave Trump the election, not the popular vote.

The Supreme Court decision years ago called "Citizens United" allowed corporations and foundations to throw in big money to because they were granted personhood and the right to "speech." This leads to a lot more deceptive advertising in play.

Both of these things need to be fixed.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: pattyClink
Date: 20 Jan 26 - 03:20 PM

Another really stupid 'customary' thing is allowing a Prez candidate to handpick a VP candidate based on nothing but personal whim. This currently has us looking at a grossly unqualified and unstable successor to Trump, whom no one actually vetted or campaigned for. And as much as rational people would love to see a female president, Kamala was also a weak candidate who won zero delegates for the prez nomination, then 4 years later could not deliver enough votes when needed.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jan 26 - 11:06 AM

The hindsight will involve looking at the parts of our system that we always followed because of tradition, not legislation. Things like the Justice Department being separate from the White House and non-political; it hasn't always been that way, but it started that practice decades ago (after Nixon) and Trump bashed the wall between Justice and his meddling. There are lots of practices that are hide-bound but not etched in legal stone. Trump is blowing the place up as he ignores the standard practice. It means we have to legislate some of these things into being, and remove that Supreme Court nonsense that the president is above the law.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 20 Jan 26 - 08:52 AM

Yes we do ~ falling over them selves to lick his boots

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 26 - 07:41 AM

Texas is 6 times larger than England. As another US state, England could enjoy what Hitler failed to do with a new Furious leader.
Besides, the US already has military bases in the UK. I'm sure the UK has perspicacious oligarchs willing to join our fascist, racist club of cruel, classist bigots.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 20 Jan 26 - 02:57 AM

”Hindsight looking back to this period will be complicated.”

To this simple-thinking guy, it’s pretty straightforward - the FUOB is insane, senile or, more likely, both. And those who should be keeping him in check are cowards. End of.