Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**

Subject: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Aug 26 - 11:41 AM

The usual thread length limit here these days is 700 and we're skating very close to that edge. The last thread was called Drumpf - Epstein Friend/US Prez 47/ War Criminal* and will be closed (too many posts would make it disappear).

Just as I can't stand to listen to his voice on the news, I can't bring myself to write than scoundrel's name in the title, hence using the family name from before his grandfather immigrated and changed it. Grandfather Drumpf/t went back and forth from Germany/Austria to the US from 1885 on, but (no surprise) the Austrians thought he was trying to evade the draft so he left for good. The name changed in the US to Trumpf, then to Trump. (Source: RBC-Ukraine)

We're keeping it to one US political thread on this subject; introducing the topic in other threads means they may be moved here.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Helen
Date: 15 Aug 26 - 04:00 PM

Thanks SRS for keeping this topic open- although I'll be celebrating when we don't have to keep talking about that idiot - and thanks for the explanation about the name Drmpf. I had assumed it was a derogatory term and it might deflect internet searchers from finding out what the thread was really about.

Could this be the ship redesign topic you were referring to at the end of the last thread? (BTW, just when I think he can't become even more whacky and stupid he wants to go back in time and install a system which requires more personnel to operate even though there are significant losses of navy personnel available.)

Donald Trump orders US Navy to use dated fighter launching technology on aircraft carriers

"In short: US President Donald Trump is ordering the navy to remove the modern system used to launch fighter jets from its newest type of aircraft carrier.

"Mr Trump has long favoured the dated steam system and pursued the same change in 2017, despite China and France both converting to magnetic catapults.

"What's next? The manufacturer of the carriers says careful reconsideration of the decision is warranted.

"Donald Trump is ordering the US Navy to remove the system used to launch fighter jets from its newest type of aircraft carrier and return to using the older steam catapults that he has long said he prefers.

"According to a directive issued on Thursday, the mandate would likely cost billions of dollars and revert the navy's most advanced ships to a system that requires more sailors to operate and is more difficult to maintain.

"The memo directs the Pentagon and the navy to present Mr Trump with plans to remove the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) within two months.

"It also says the Ford-class carrier's electromagnetic weapons elevators should be replaced.

"The move comes after years of Mr Trump railing against the new, magnetically powered catapult system that shoots fighter jets off the deck of the aircraft carriers.

"It also comes at a time when the US military is trying to find funding from congress for new equipment, while the navy struggles to fill its ships with enough sailors."


The rest of the article is worth reading.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 15 Aug 26 - 06:15 PM

There's much informed input in the Comments on a relevant ElReg article (Trump sends the US Navy back to the steam age), including:

I though the Fox News host was in charge of the military?

The one who insists that only manly men with no body hair can be in uniform, and they need more testosterone to make them more manly and they need to be shirtless to show off their manly tattoos and do push-ups for him to demonstrate how manly they are.

.... and the expressions "Jeffrey Epstein Memorial Dance Hall" and "Brandenburg Gâteau de Triomphe" as side issues.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Aug 26 - 07:52 PM

Hegseth mirrored an actual speech by Hitler. "Our warriors will all be strong and slender".

Charlie Fisk was in charge of the Trump Youth, aimed at 18-year-olds instead of 12-year-old Hitler Youth.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Aug 26 - 08:51 PM

ICE ICE with their detention camps, is modeled after the SS and concentration camps, and both murder with impunity.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 17 Aug 26 - 10:58 AM

So how will history remember little t and his 47th Presidency

Will he get away scot free from all the unnecessary harm deaths and hardship he has caused

Some one doesn't like English expression scot free ~ I'll check it out

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 17 Aug 26 - 11:00 AM

"Skat’ is a Scandinavian word for tax or payment and the word migrated to Britain and mutated into ‘scot’ as the name of a redistributive taxation, levied as early the 10th century as a form of municipal poor relief." from search

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Hrothgar
Date: 17 Aug 26 - 06:41 PM

King Donald is going to get away with it because he will be unfit to stand trial. The bone spurs will be playing up again. It will be interesting to see whether, in those circumstances, his and his family's ill-gotten gains can be sequestered as proceeds of crime. The family, of course, might still be vulnerable to charges.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Aug 26 - 07:02 PM

Fewer than half of Americans have read a book this year, so in this post-literate world, history will see Trump as a likely leader with his'weave'.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Aug 26 - 05:59 AM

The sell off of US debt has begun. The evidence is in the price of US treasury bonds. The ghost of Hoover might return if Trump billionaires abandon their allegiance.
btw Trump is punishing our ally, South Korea, for not going to war with Iran.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Aug 26 - 09:17 AM

America is rhyming with 1934 Nazi Germany. Eventually, the deportation camps will accept members of the resistance if Project 25 get their way. Trump's disapproval rate is 68%. With troops in the streets of many cities and election security changed, a crash at the intersection of Trumpism and democracy is destined to happen by the end of this year.

May the best men and women win.
May the cost of the conflict be small despite election deniers ranting until their dying day.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 18 Aug 26 - 10:10 AM

We've been watching I CLAVDIVS as light relief from the news. Let that sink in awhile.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 18 Aug 26 - 10:17 AM

Today's XKCD (Accretionary Arc) seems apposite to Donuel's last comment.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 18 Aug 26 - 11:40 AM

Has Donny got a taste for figs by any chance?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Aug 26 - 05:59 AM

Trump won't take Blue Chew so all he can do is eat the erotic fig.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Aug 26 - 08:13 AM

People will not change unless they are held accountable; however, social psychopathic narcissists never change in their lifetime.

Rubio is our Secretary of State but has nothing to do with Iran, Ukraine, or Cuba. Instead, Kushner is in charge, probably looking for extortion payouts.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Aug 26 - 01:38 PM

In the 15 years I have posted about Trump, I have been accused of obsessive confirmation bias, but the conclusion that Trump is a self-indulgent evil man found me and was not just a pre-formed bias.
It appears most people have come to a similar conclusion.

There are economic reasons why Trump says he loves inflation. When he can delay payments for years with dollars that are worth less now he saves money. Also, debt creates a false money supply for banks.

The US debt is now 40 trillion dollars. The deficit is the outrageous interest we must pay to sustain the debt.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Aug 26 - 08:44 PM

ICE is now using torture gloves. They are like Taser gloves meant to cause pain. They hope to make their hands on fascism stronger.

Natalie Harp is Trump's surrogate wife.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 20 Aug 26 - 03:26 AM

"ICE arrest teacher of the year here legally…
University of Maryland School of Pharmacy instructor Dr. Berhanu Kibret was detained by ICE at DFW Airport while returning from a professional conference where he had received a Teacher of the Year award." facebook

Have we not seen such racial measures before ~ just before I was born?

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Aug 26 - 06:26 AM

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/08/ice-gloves-school-shock-omaha-compliant-technologies-resource-officer/

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 20 Aug 26 - 07:30 AM

"In early August, ICE revealed plans to purchase $20 million worth of electric-shock gloves, manufactured by a company called Compliant Technologies. The gloves work on direct contact with exposed skin and deliver a painful electric charge. Police departments, jails, and even school resource officers across the country have used the gloves for years—" source see mother jones link above

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Aug 26 - 06:58 AM

If you put all the criminal and nefarious acts by Trump aside and just focus on the 3 areas of his experience and expertise, his accomplishments are few.

He knows how to start construction contracts; he knows how to seek revenge by suing people, and he knows how to create bankruptcies.

There is no longer any point to warn others of his criminality. It is now all too obvious except for the most gullible and uninformed.

There will be a continuation of his racist 4th Reich that will be the true target of resistance posters in the future. Sadly, it may take more than information to preserve democracy.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 21 Aug 26 - 02:12 PM

> a continuation of his racist 4th Reich

Did the Bund ever actually go away?

I can't remember where I read about it, but: Certain cults (the term "joiner religions" was used) have a natural life cycle. They start out small, then their expansion is slow but accelerating^† until they dominate; once they hit some limit, there's a catastrophic collapse back to the small hard core, which is their way of surviving through the hard times until the next expansion phase. My natural response was "relaxation oscillation", but the chaotic boom-and-bust of lemming populations may be more familiar to non-techies.

† The proper mathematical term is "exponential", but that's been gutted by misapplication.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Helen
Date: 22 Aug 26 - 02:05 AM

This could be totally made up, but it's funny.

Hubby sent me an image, probably from Farcebook. The first half is possibly/maybe a tweet from Sean Duffy, and the response is from "@Thesource2026"

Secretary Sean Duffy

WELCOME TO PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

You can now see DJT printed on the boarding passes for the first time! And guess who made a surprise appearance?

@POTUS called me to speak to the hard-working crew on the ground.



@Thesource2026

FYI: If you fly from Palm Beach, FL to Sioux City, IA your ticket will read:

DJT - SUX

If you fly from Fresno, CA to Fukuoka, Japan & then back to Palm Beach, FL your ticket reads:

FAT - FUK - DJT

If you fly from Fukuoka, Japan to Palm Beach, FL your ticket will read:

FUK - DJT

The best for last, Palm Beach, FL to Mount Isa, AU to Fresno, Pendopo, Indonesia, your ticket reads:

DJT - ISA - FAT - PDO

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 22 Aug 26 - 12:09 PM

> This could be totally made up, but it's funny.

For that, Helen, you win the Internet for this week.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 22 Aug 26 - 01:32 PM

ICE boss to agents: Leave the Meta spy glasses at home

'Personally owned body-worn cameras are prohibited,' ICE tells The Reg. Because the last thing DHS needs is more proof of misconduct

.... and from an (official) Anonymous Coward in the lower and calmer reaches of the Comments:

The US has fallen

But at least it will be captured in glorious High Definition

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Aug 26 - 02:11 PM

If you put all of Trump's lies, fraud, and criminality aside and look only at his expertise, it comes down to three things. His ability to begin construction contracts, suing his enemies, and create bankruptcies.

28 years ago our debt was 10 trillion and now it is a cool 40 trillion.
If you broke that down to everyone in the US we would each owe $118.000. Lotsa folks don't have that much.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Hrothgar
Date: 23 Aug 26 - 03:42 AM

"Lotsa folks don't have that much."

But there seem to be quite a few with a damned sight more, and they are the ones who should be made to pay it off.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 24 Aug 26 - 10:29 AM

Lifted from Comments on China marches towards re-usable rockets with successful first-stage landing:

Hey some of us are trying [to kick tRump out], but all the uninformed hordes who support the mentally declining pedophile grifter keep voting for more of his hollow promises.

By 2029 we'll either have put MAGA in the dustbin of history or I'll have permanently left, desiring to escape before MAGA has a civil war over whether to rename the ruins of America as Gilead or Trumpistan.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 24 Aug 26 - 10:34 AM

And later (from Comments on the aforelinked article):

[...] Still, you've got a broken reflecting pool, a partly demolished White House and the Kennedy Center under a tarpaulin so it's not all bad.

Trump is a man of the people. His followers see a half demolished house, an abandoned renovation project that started with no plan and ran out of money, and a torn paddling pool, and think of Sweet Home Alabama.

All it needs is a couple of former AirForce Ones on bricks rusting on the lawn.

The last, by the way, is from the gloriously-pseudonym'd Yet Another Anonymous Coward.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Aug 26 - 08:56 PM

100,000 people are evacuating Reno because of fire. Gary Indiana is without power for over 2 weeks. 3 foodborn diseases are now spreading in the US. Things are rougher than reported imo.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Aug 26 - 04:36 PM

Trump is trying to neuralize the public with his fake news accusations regarding inflation, war, ICE crimes, stock and crypto fraud, and his ego construction projects.

Chief Justice Roberts lifted a stay on Trump's executive order that the post office can make rules regarding mailing voting forms.
It could take months before the court rules on the legitimacy of the order.

Subject: Let the Punishment fit the Crime
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Aug 26 - 06:32 AM

ICE is the brainchild of Stephen Miller. What kind of punishment does he deserve for the ICE murders from coast to coast?

As for the compulsive liar Donald Trump, he deserves an indeterminate jail sentence in which he is told every day that he will be released from prison tomorrow, but every day he is told it will be tomorrow...
for years.

What should be the punishment for Hegseth?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Aug 26 - 09:11 AM

.... Ooooh, I like the "jam tomorrow" punishment. But would Diddums even realise?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Aug 26 - 09:46 AM

My friend who lives in NYC sent me a meme last night. It said…

“The wrong 80-year-old, wig-wearing diva died today.”

A thousand Amens to that!

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Aug 26 - 11:22 AM

The toady from weekend FOX television has decided that the military Drone Brigade isn't manly enough so he's tanking them. In a world where drones are in the air, on the water, and even underwater, he's going to cripple that part of the military?

This is the same moron who purged the top generals.

A series of firings and feuds initiated by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has left the Army essentially rudderless as it struggles to deal with the threat posed by cheap, deadly drones and missiles that have pounded U.S. bases in the Middle East.

The Army has not had a chief of staff, the service’s top officer, since Mr. Hegseth fired Gen. Randy George without explanation in April, and there are no signs that he is close to filling the position, said current and former officials speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive personnel matters.

Mr. Hegseth has forced out at least three senior officers who had been viewed as potential successors to General George.

Army Secretary Daniel P. Driscoll, the service’s top civilian leader, is also expected to leave the administration in the next few months and has already moved out of the large family house that he was renting in Fort Myer, outside Washington, officials said.

Those are the generals who favored learning as much as possible about drone warfare, so that may be why Hegseth is against them. From The Hill:

The U.S. Army plans to phase out a drone unit that was studying and incorporating lessons from foreign wars, including the use of uncrewed systems in the Russia-Ukraine war, an Army official confirmed to The Hill on Thursday.

The infantry battalion, known as the Unmanned Assault Battalion, will participate at the Joint Multinational Readiness Center this month and next month in Germany. After the exercises, the battalion will “refocus on its core warfighting tasks as an airborne infantry battalion assigned to a Mobile Brigade Combat Team (Airborne),” the official said.

The unit is part of the 173rd Airborne Brigade, a quick-reaction light infantry brigade team stationed in Vicenza, Italy. It was championed by former Army Chief of Staff Gen. Randy George, who was ousted by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth earlier this year.

The U.S. Army Europe and Africa, with the backing of the Army and U.S. European Command, tasked the infantry battalion to “prototype an employment concept for a tactical unmanned systems battalion,” the official said.

The unit was also championed by Gen. Chris Donahue, the former commander of U.S. Army Europe and Africa, whose July removal by Hegseth divided Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

The Army did not respond to The Hill’s request for comment.

The decision to gradually eliminate the unit was criticized by military experts, who point to Ukraine as a real-world “battle lab” to learn how drones are changing modern warfare, with the most experienced drone operators in the world, who are constantly learning and adapting amid Russian attacks.

“The U.S. is behind in adopting and fielding small drones. While the Pentagon is planning a massive investment in small drones, procurement is not enough to close this gap. There is a risk that the U.S. Army invests in the wrong types of drones or obsolete technology and doesn’t learn how to employ them in an effective fashion on a highly contested battlefield,” Stacie Pettyjohn, a senior fellow and director of the defense program at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS), told The Hill on Thursday.

Read the rest following the link.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Helen
Date: 26 Aug 26 - 02:15 PM

Ghislaine Maxwell loses bid to overturn sex trafficking conviction

(This is the complete news article. It's very short.)

"A US federal judge has rejected a bid by Ghislaine Maxwell, a key accomplice of notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, to throw out her conviction on sex trafficking charges.

"Maxwell, 64, has been sentenced to 20 years in prison and is the only person convicted of a crime in connection with Epstein, who died in a New York jail cell in 2019 while awaiting his own trial.

"In his ruling on Tuesday, local time, Judge Paul Engelmayer said that Maxwell's claims that her constitutional rights at trial and sentencing were violated 'are all meritless and all or almost all are frivolous.'

"Maxwell was convicted in 2021 of supplying underage girls to Epstein, whose ties to powerful business executives, politicians, celebrities and academics have fuelled years of scrutiny and conspiracy theories.

Under a new law passed last year, US President Donald Trump's administration has released vast troves of investigative files relating to Epstein, drawing huge public attention to the case.

High-profile figures including Britain's former prince Andrew have been publicly disgraced for their associations with Epstein.

"In February, Maxwell was subpoenaed by the House Oversight Committee to discuss her relations with Epstein but refused to answer any questions. Her lawyer stated she would only speak if Trump granted her clemency.

"The US Supreme Court last October declined to hear an appeal by Maxwell of her sex trafficking conviction.

"Trump, who also had a years-long relationship with Epstein, initially opposed releasing the so-called Epstein files, prompting accusations of a cover-up that dogged his first year back in office.

"The Republican has denied any link to Epstein's crimes."

Also, I saw a brief headline on a TV news show about this:

US Secret Service 'aware' of Iran video threat against Barron Trump, spokesperson says

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 26 - 06:22 AM

It has finally happened. China has hacked the DOJ, NASA, the Treasury, and a great number of other US institutions this week.
The Filk predicted this.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 27 Aug 26 - 07:07 AM

> The Filk predicted this.

Not guilty: I was merely the conduit for ElReg reporters and commentards who saw who was being sacked and drew the obvious conclusions. Once the grownups leave the building (willingly or otherwise), and take the accumulated institutional knowledge^† with them, implosion is only a matter of time.

† I know I've got the wrong term here. Parity errors detected in wetware.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Aug 26 - 06:12 AM

Lake Amtario, Lake Ontarica, Lake Donald? The clown show has jumped the shark.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Aug 26 - 11:00 AM

He jumped the shark on the first day, the rest is one-upmanship to continue to distract from the Epstein papers.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 28 Aug 26 - 11:09 AM

Bingo: you have the correct expression, Donuel, though methinks misnaming the Gulf of Mexico was the definitive moment of untruth. Hadn't heard about said lakes, though I did hear Herself indulging loudly in full-bore righteous indignation over Lake Ontario -> Lake America.

For some reason, I'm reminded of the circus notice which read "This way to the egress!", which directed paying customers to the exit. Outside stood a very large man with a dictionary, whose job was to gently explain to said customers what they'd just paid for. Mayhap someone should arm St Peter with an up-to-date *and accurate* world atlas.

Oh, and what's the latest about the Kennedy Centre being demolished to obliterate the lack of Diddums's sacred Name?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Aug 26 - 11:23 AM

They will always offer a threat if they don't get their way. Now that we know he's capable of tearing down national treasures at a moment's notice, I'm sure there are many eyes trained on any heavy equipment that might approach the Kennedy Center. Meanwhile they're racing to put up that Colossus of Toads (apologies to toads) ballroom so they're so far along courts can't make them stop if the Democrats take the House and or Senate in November. If they win in November, the period from November 3, 2026 and January 3, 2027 will be a super crazy time as they do as much damage as possible before the new tenants get their hands on the lease.

Meanwhile, any resource extraction company with a functioning board or management is going to know that if they try to go into the Arctic now or into Wilderness areas they will pay a lot for the roads and equipment and that takes time. They'll be stopped in their tracks by a Democratic congress so might as well not waste their time or money now. At least, one hopes that is the case.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Aug 26 - 11:55 AM

Destruction can be done in a few moments, but building anything takes a lot of quality time.

His new board of the Kennedy Center feels immune to Congressional oversight, so demolition is up to the mood of his vengeful, psychotic state. If demolition happens, the cover of darkness will apply.

In the meantime, testosterone madness applies to men, while opportunities for women decline to soften them up for motherhood, just like the 3rd Reich demanded.

Watching a rare Trump rally today feels like seeing an aging rock star reprising his hit song from 50 years ago at a supermarket parking lot concert. His Hitler youth leader Charlie Fisk is gone. What remains are a few liars that are bad examples of a master race.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 30 Aug 26 - 06:27 AM

From BBC Red Button:

Ontario Premiere Doug Ford has hit back at Donald Trump by installing a large sign on Canada's shoreline with the mesage: "Lake Ontario. Now and Always." [...]

"Long before President Trump, this lake was called Lake Ontario. Long after President Trump is gone, it will still be called Lake Ontario," Ford said.

Your move, Diddums.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 30 Aug 26 - 08:19 PM

More cogent comments from The Register:

More than 100 water systems were hit in July cyberattacks

'These are test runs for a larger-scale attack'

The US government disclosed that crims targeted more than 100 internet-exposed water systems during July cyberattacks. That's the first time the feds have put a number on the digital intrusions, but they have yet to attribute the campaign, widely suspected to be linked to Iran, to a particular group. [...]

The Commentards discuss why Iran is mentioned (other than being near the top of the pissed-off list), but what caught my eye was:

The real enemy of the USA is currently in power. A part of the people still haven't noticed yet (whatever they have not noticed yet, since some think Bush, senior, is still in power)...

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 26 - 07:45 AM

Bush Sr. voters are dead.

America wanted a businessman for President that was a devout racist whith the art of the swindle. Sadly those voters have been swindled. They are paying for Trump corruption. Finally, they don't like it.

Will Trump end up like; the Romanovs, or Bonisaro, or enjoy all his grift with impunity???????????????????

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 26 - 12:16 PM

millions of Americans tracked in Trump DNA bank

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 26 - 12:23 PM

https://www.military.com/33-million-us-citizens-data-collected-by-government-massive-genetic-database-for-policing-report

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 26 - 12:39 PM

Obama had a modern deep bunker installed at the White House, but Trump wanted a huge luxury bunker unsullied by Obama. It is 60 feet below the ballroom.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Sep 26 - 05:47 PM

The Nerd Reich wants to destroy democracy, and its mask has slipped

"Billionaires have become radicalised against democracy," the American independent journalist Gil Durán tells the ABC (Australia).

"We have to realise how much power we have, and to stop being tuned out from the very real threat we face from a billionaire class that has gone off the edge of sanity into an altered reali]

The Nerd Reich (2026) has debuted as an instant New York Times bestseller.

"But we also need to realise where we're at, how we got here, and who's paying for it all.

"It's not just Trump anymore. It's a regime. And it's a regime that is funded and supported and strengthened by the oligarchs of Silicon Valley."

That is Mr Durán's warning to Australians.

He was speaking to the ABC about his new book, The Nerd Reich: Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy ...

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 02 Sep 26 - 01:13 PM

Yes UK is rounding on "donations to MPs" of every ilk

Such donations reflect on decisions made and leave MPs and others at the whim of the very rich and others ~ move afoot to ban any outside payments

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 02 Sep 26 - 04:34 PM

Latest example of recto-cranial inversion: Diddums wants to rename the Straits of Hormuz after himself. Nobody outside USAnia will see any changes to Google Earth. Is anybody else reminded of the Potemkin office in which Fred Trump spent his last days?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 02 Sep 26 - 04:35 PM

Oh, and BBC Red Button reports that Canada has quietly had many tonnes of gold shipped out of the country over the last few months, due to "political instability". It's all been been deposited in the Bank of England's vaults.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Hrothgar
Date: 02 Sep 26 - 08:06 PM

I understand that the San Andreas Fault has been renamed the Joe Biden's Fault.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Rain Dog
Date: 03 Sep 26 - 05:02 AM

I believe it was a Dutch bank that moved some of its gold from Canada and the USA to the UK.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 03 Sep 26 - 09:16 AM

> a huge luxury bunker unsullied by Obama

Just realised what that reminds me of: Whenever a lion takes over a pride, he immediately kills off all the cubs sired by the predecessor he's just displaced with extreme prejudice. All the lionesses promptly become fertile, so the new head of the pride can get on with ensuring his own genetic succession.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Monique
Date: 03 Sep 26 - 09:27 AM

The new head of the pride also hurries to pee all around his territory and roars to let everybody know who's in charge.(and we're territorial animals too...)

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Sep 26 - 06:16 PM

Napoleon was finally banished.
Would you want Trump deported to Gruinard Island or the Marshal Islands?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 04 Sep 26 - 07:04 AM

Does it matter?

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 04 Sep 26 - 10:04 AM

"Hello Epstein my old friend.
I'm looking for young girls again.
There are some journos who'd take the piss.
Kindly keep my name out of this.
Be sure you delete all the eMail chain.
We'll then regain / retain the code of silence."

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 04 Sep 26 - 11:38 AM

> Would you want Trump deported to Gruinard Island
> or the Marshal Islands?

Rename Gitmo Bay to tRump Bay and deport him there .... oops: were they to put him in standard-issue orange rompers, they'd never see him again.

PS: Nice one, Nigel.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Sep 26 - 05:28 PM

I know how angry Americans can become. I interviewed the residents and homeowners of Love Canal, which was previously a toxic waste dump.
I personally saw glass pits containing nuclear waste 50 feet from the swings at an elementary playground. I have seen an extreme waste dump a mile from Niagara Falls that was more than a half mile deep. Avoiding cancer is a real crapshoot in this country. Americans are more mobilized and angry about affordability than life-stealing cancer.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: bad bad Leroy Brown
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Sep 26 - 05:48 PM

Well the East side of big Apple
Is the Queens part of town
And if you go down there
You better just beware
Of a man named Donald Trump
Now Donald was more than trouble
You see he stands about six foot three
All those Epstein ladies call him "Treetop Lover"
All the men just call him "Sir"
And it's bad, bad Donald Trump
The baddest man in the whole damned town
Badder than old King Kong
And meaner than a junkyard frog
Now Donald is a gambler
And he likes his ol Roy Cohn
And he like to wave his golden rings
In front of everybody's nose
He got a custom 747
He got a trophy wife too
He got thirty secret service agents for fun
He got a razor in his shoe
And it's bad, bad Donald Trump
The baddest man in the whole damned town
Badder than old King Kong
And meaner than a junkyard frog
Well Friday 'bout a week ago
Donald's shootin' shit
And at the edge of the bar
Sat a girl named Harp
And ooh that girl looked nice
Well he cast his eyes upon her
And the trouble soon began
And Donald Trump he learned a lesson
'Bout messin' with the wife of a jealous man
And it's bad, bad Donald Trump
The baddest man in the whole damned town
Badder than old King Kong
And meaner than a junkyard frog
Well the two men took to fighting
And when they pulled them from the floor
Donald looked like a jigsaw puzzle
With a couple of pieces gone
And it's bad, bad Donald Trump
The baddest man in the whole damned town
Badder than old King Kong
Meaner than a junkyard frog
And he's bad, bad Leroy Brown
The baddest man in the whole damned town
Badder than old King Kong
And meaner than a junkyard frog
Yeah, he was badder than old King Kong
Meaner than a junkyard frog

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 26 - 04:58 PM

US destroys 3 oil tankers.
https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-war-oil-tankers-b3650799901c56a6deeca962cbaa4109

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 26 - 08:39 AM

Rockefeller and JP Morgan were only part of the superclass that persists today, but now you don't need a council of foreign relations because all you need is several billion dollars and you are a leader of the superclass and a governing power in which the government is only a shadow of the billionaire ruling class. Billionaire rule is far more direct and obvious.

How do you like government by billionaires? It's the same for the UK, whether you admit it or not.

I'm sure No one here is a member of the Epstein class.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 26 - 01:34 PM

One nation under stress with liberty and justice in hell.
After the housing mortgage scam and ordinary folks got squeezed even more; health went down, and handguns were used for suicide more than for homicide.

It was too easy to blame poorer immigrants for the lost opportunities.
The antidote for the current stress is neighborly caring and cohesion but fear undoes much of that. Good Samaritans are now murdered by ICE and called terrorists.

Add a pandemic or two and you have one hell of a mess.
Healing is going to require alot of honesty.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 26 - 03:23 PM

Due to a recent court ruling, every Michigan voter who offers to vote in the polls must comply with the requirement by showing picture identification or a driver's license.

So... 8,000 people so far recieved their new driver license with the wrong picture and birthday. Somehow many of these folks are black

SCOTUS will rule today if Trump can order the post office to check names for mail-in ballots. Besides being illegal, women who changed their name via married will not get a ballot.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Sep 26 - 07:13 PM

Drumpf is hoping third time is the charm with that request to the Supremes. And you'd think the Michigan license folks, with a Democratic governor, would be better behaved.

Drumpf is in Dallas tonight and I hope he is exposed to the heat and is as uncomfortable as everyone who lives in the region. I'm sure he'll go nowhere near Dealey Plaza.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Helen
Date: 09 Sep 26 - 07:59 PM

SRS, he'll also be fighting to find enough attendees at his rally because the timing coincides with the big NFL game. What's more important? Listening to tRump waffling on about his golden ballroom, or watching athletic, sporty people playing footy?

Trump battles low approval ratings in lead-up to Republican midterms convention

"But as recently as last week, party supporters received text messages offering free tickets to the event, raising questions about whether it will attract the sizeable crowds the party hopes for.

"And dozens of the party's representatives and key candidates are missing the convention, an event usually only held in a presidential election year.

"Earlier this month, Politico reported that 45 out of more than 70 surveyed Republican politicians and candidates confirmed they would not attend or were undecided.

"Some cited scheduling conflicts, but others complained about donations of more than $US25,000 ($34,720) requested in exchange for tickets and access to exclusive side events.

"The White House also confirmed that First Lady Melania Trump will not attend."

...

"The event also clashes with the NFL season's opening two matches, including the league's first-ever regular season match to be played in Australia.

"It will take place in Melbourne on Friday morning (AEST), competing for American TV viewers with Mr Trump's remarks on Thursday evening (US time)."

...

In other news, my Hubby sent me a photo he saw on Farcebook showing tRump with brown hair. I thought it was AI but I did a search on the latest hair-colour news and yes, he has changed his hair colour. (How silly can he get? Surely there is not very much silliness left in his dark, dungeony brain-cellar reserves??!!)

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 10 Sep 26 - 01:58 AM

Due to a recent court ruling, every Michigan voter who offers to vote in the polls must comply with the requirement by showing picture identification or a driver's license.

So... 8,000 people so far recieved their new driver license with the wrong picture and birthday. Somehow many of these folks are black

SCOTUS will rule today if Trump can order the post office to check names for mail-in ballots. Besides being illegal, women who changed their name via married will not get a ballot.#

Is this verified?

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Sep 26 - 07:04 AM

So now, the Fat, Ugly, Pants-shitting Pig is resorting to blatant bribery to try to ensure the Repuglicans win the Midterms.

How is he staying out of jail?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Sep 26 - 07:07 AM

Human liars like Trump like Trump cause incredible damage, but the best liars on Earth are artificial intelligence.
When a recent AI experiment escaped, all 1,600 agents it created kept the secret of its escape and the sacrifices it planned.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Sep 26 - 08:15 AM

It’s not AI that’s promising £5,000 to every adult in the US if the Repuglicans win the Midterms, it’s Trump. It’s an attempt at bribery of the electorate being made by the President. SFA to do with AI.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62kzr1jg0jo

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 10 Sep 26 - 06:08 PM

Must be deemed illegal imv

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 08:12 AM

IMV too, Ray. It seems pretty clear according to US Code 597

But the FUOP seems to get away with ignoring rules…

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Rain Dog
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 10:02 AM

It's unlikely to happen. No one can believe a single word that spews from his mouth. It might happen but tben it might not. He probably doesn't even remember the things that he says.

I feel sorry for all those who have to try and deal with him.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 10:45 AM

I agree with all that, RD but, although most sensible and thinking people know it and will take no notice of his blather, I fear there will almost certainly be some hard-of-thinking voters who will fall for his lies and vote accordingly. In other words, threy will have fallen for a bribe.

It really is time some kind of control is brought to bear on him. Even better, throw him in the Slammer.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 11:51 AM

It seems pretty clear to me that, under Code 597, by making an offer of $5k to every adult with the proviso that the Repuglicans carry the Midterms, he is guilty of bribery.

Code 597 - ”Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and

Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 02:10 PM

Of course he was breaking the law. He doesn't care.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Helen
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 02:19 PM

For argument's sake, let's imagine that the Republicans win the mid-terms (and that pigs might fly) and then let's say that half the US voting population accepted the cash payout and then they are charged under Code 597. Then let's say half of those people decide to take the punishment, e.g. the prison sentence and the other half decide to take it to court and all of the US Federal courts would be dealing with those appeals. What would be happening in your country at that point? Not a lot. Everything would grind to a halt.

I'm hoping that this promise of tRump's is jumped on from a great height by anyone and everyone currently in power, in politics, in the courts, in the media, and via people-power in protests on the streets.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 02:20 PM

It's not a matter of accepting it, the cash would never be sent.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 02:49 PM

But no matter whether it's paid or not, under Code 597 it's still bribery, and the Fat, Ugly, Orange POS should go to jail.

He won't, of course, because the US Congress is spineless and corrupt.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 04:43 PM

I was wondering about all those "illegals" surely some are able to vote ...

even under the existing/almost existing system.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 10:22 PM

Not in federal elections, but there are plenty of states and municipalities that allow non-citizen voting.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Hrothgar
Date: 11 Sep 26 - 11:02 PM

Well, BWM, those hard-of-thinking people were probably going to vote for him anyway.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Sep 26 - 12:14 AM

Hrothgar, maybe, maybe not. Either way, it’s bribery, it’s indictable, and the Fat POS belongs in jail.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 12 Sep 26 - 02:14 AM

Quite so jail awaits but how much more can the world stand from his meddling unfetted

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Sep 26 - 08:04 AM

I doubt if the elections will take place. He has already said that the war with Iran will still be going. This is probably a forerunner of him declaring a national emergency in which elections can be cancelled.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Rain Dog
Date: 12 Sep 26 - 09:45 AM

Jail awaits? For what exactly?

He is unlikely to face any jail time. What will he be charged with? Will he be found guilty? If found guilty he is bound to appeal and appeal and appeal.

It has struck me before that lawyers are getting plenty of work during Trump's reign.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 12 Sep 26 - 11:43 AM

At his age the good Lord may yet step in. Fate will take its turn ultimately

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Sep 26 - 12:03 PM

”What will he be charged with?”

Probably nothing. But your question should be re-worded “What should~ he be charged with?”. The answer is in Code 597.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Rain Dog
Date: 12 Sep 26 - 01:52 PM

No. My question remains what will he be charged with?

I don't know enough about American laws and the constitution to know what he can be charged with. I probably know more than Trump does but less than his lawyers.

I doubt that he will charged with anything.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Sep 26 - 02:00 PM

Did you read the Code 597 which I linked to?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Sep 26 - 07:18 PM

And now he has blurted out that it would be great if
Ireland were unified. Where will it end!

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Helen
Date: 12 Sep 26 - 07:31 PM

There have been massive protests in Ireland, and some Irish humour.

Look at the balloons right at the start of video

What Netanyahu really wants to do to tRump, eh? LOL

Hubby also told me about an Irish protester's sign "No Faux-King way!"

Clever!

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Sep 26 - 03:42 AM

A perfect riposte from Greg Stuart on FB, to Trumps ludicrous, uneducated, uninformed comments about a ‘United Ireland’…

”Keep out of our politics, you brainless, overfed orange twat.

Seriously, Donald Trump, stay in your own lane. You have the audacity to suggest that a United Ireland would be a “great thing” while apparently having absolutely no understanding of the history, the sensitivities or the consequences of what you are saying. Does this man actually understand the history of Ireland? Does he understand how deeply contentious the question of Irish unity is? Does he understand the painstaking political agreements that have helped maintain peace, or does he simply open his mouth and allow whatever thought happens to wander through his head to fall out?

And perhaps, while he is dispensing his unsolicited opinions about the United Kingdom, he could concentrate on the enormous mess he has helped create in the Strait of Hormuz and the increasingly serious consequences of his own foreign policy decisions. The United Kingdom is supposedly one of America’s greatest allies, yet here we have an American president casually wading into one of the most historically sensitive political questions affecting that ally, apparently without the slightest appreciation of the damage his words can cause. This is not statesmanship, diplomacy or leadership. It is ignorance, arrogance and a staggering inability to understand when keeping your mouth shut would be the intelligent thing to do.

For once, Donald, do us all a favour. Stop trying to tell Britain and Ireland how to sort out their affairs and sort out your own bloody mess first. Because frankly, we cannot handle this level of stupidity anymore. The man is an absolute moron.”


Right on the button, Greg!

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 13 Sep 26 - 04:01 AM

Talking on an empty head again

Go home Donald, do your research and take your golf course with you

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Rain Dog
Date: 13 Sep 26 - 05:21 AM

Caitriona Perry on the BBC sums it up

When another world leader meets US President Donald Trump the only certainty about what might happen is the uncertainty about what might happen.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Sep 26 - 08:37 AM

And….100!

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 06:42 AM

As Trump's name is going back on the Kennedy Center, the center will be declaring bankruptcy this Tuesday.

Trump knows best about AI since he says there is more good than bad in its programming.

The Psychopath and Chief blames Biden for inflation and Ukraine for Diesel price doubling.

Just like all the unlikely coincidences that brought Trump to power, it looks like even death is taking a holiday.

Yes, the elections will occur. Trump wants to federalize elections, but the courts say the states are in charge of voting.

The Atlantic has an article called Empire of Grift. It is better than FB.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 07:19 AM

First, define ‘better’…

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 08:39 AM

FB = Fucking Bollocks

Some of you know of six year old Anthony Fremont from Peakeville, Ohio, who wished people into the cornfield in The Twilight Zone.
If you don't know him, you know the adult version: Donald Trump.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 08:56 AM

Self Rightiousness in retrospect is easy and also cheap. The moral utility of history is not to look down on the past condescendingly or look up to it adoringly, but to look it in the eye.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 10:20 AM

At least one billion dollars of secret billionaire and Super PAC money for elections, possibly much more, is floating around. At the same time, more opposition of free media speech is being encountered.

If you or I donate more than $100, a record of that is kept for public scrutiny.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 12:05 PM

”FB = Fucking Bollocks”

You don’t ‘get’ irony, do you?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 01:51 PM

Like dark money, the irreconcilable differences of a couple of non-Americans are a secret unshared. While they are not bound to the principles in the Declaration of Independence, I believe we could share being on topic, as well as the concepts of truth, freedom, and liberty.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 02:02 PM

Thomas Jefferson and Donald Trump shared the same opinion of the brown people of Africa. They both believed that highly pigmented people are inferior to white people in terms of mentality and body, in his Virginia letters.
However, the idea that all men are created equal is a half-truth.

The concept of democracy and freedom could not be further apart.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Rain Dog
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 02:05 PM

Worried aboug AI? We can all rest easy. Trump has spoken:

"The only control or 'guardrails' that AI needs is a STRONG AND SMART (High IQ!) PRESIDENT, and the U.S.A. has that, in spades!"

More nonsense spewed from Trump and his carers

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 02:19 PM

Trump is worthy of bringing back the word ignominy.
Under his watch more Americans died of Covid than all the US wars from WW1, WW2, Korean, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 02:55 PM

A new book by Kai Bird about Roy Cohn is out, and he was interviewed on my local NPR station today. The man who taught Trump everything he knows. It's an hour-long program and covers quite a range of topics about Cohn and Trump.

The book is American Scoundrel: Roy Cohn's Dark Journey from Joe McCarthy to Donald Trump.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 04:34 PM

In 1953, Senator Joseph McCarthy hired Roy Cohn as chief counsel for the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. [1] (https://www.inlander.com/comment/when-robert-kennedy-and-joe-mccarthy-crossed-paths-the-greatness-of-rfk-became-obvious/article_0bc67d73-787e-560c-90be-41a58bfc1f6e.html),
[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn)Robert F. Kennedy (Bobby) was hired at the same time as an assistant counsel on the committee. [1] (https://www.inlander.com/comment/when-robert-kennedy-and-joe-mccarthy-crossed-paths-the-greatness-of-rfk-became-obvious/article_0bc67d73-787e-560c-90be-41a58bfc1f6e.html)Cohn was chosen over Kennedy for the top job due to his prior profile prosecuting the Rosenberg spy case, though Kennedy's father, Joe Kennedy, had ties to McCarthy. [1] (https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Joe-McCarthy-hire-Roy-Cohn-as-his-chief-counsel-choosing-him-over-Bobby-Kennedy),
[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn), [3] (https://www.inlander.com/comment/when-robert-kennedy-and-joe-mccarthy-crossed-paths-the-greatness-of-rfk-became-obvious/article_0bc67d73-787e-560c-90be-41a58bfc1f6e.html)
Both young lawyers worked together briefly before Kennedy grew disenchanted with McCarthy and Cohn's aggressive, overzealous tactics and left the staff.
[1] (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/rfk-enemies/)Turning into Enemies. After leaving the McCarthy committee, their career paths diverged sharply, and a deep mutual disdain developed between them. [1] (https://windycitytimes.com/2016/09/20/book-focuses-on-robert-kennedys-liberal-evolution/),
[2] (https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/09/24/robert-kennedy-jr-sounds-more-like-roy-cohn-than-his-late-father/)As U.S. Attorney General years later, Robert Kennedy pursued investigations and crackdowns on corruption, while Cohn operated as a high-powered, controversial fixer and attorney in New York. [1] (https://newjerseyglobe.com/section-2/cornelius-gallagher-supports-new-rfk-investigation/),
[2] (https://wakefieldbooks.com/book/9781668031575), [3] (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/10/roy-cohn-american-scoundrel-review/688351/)Tensions remained high; stories from the Kennedy administration note that the mere suggestion of bringing in Cohn to assist with political or legislative fights would cause Robert Kennedy to react with extreme anger. [1] (https://newjerseyglobe.com/section-2/cornelius-gallagher-supports-new-rfk-investigation/)Learn more about the life and career of Roy Cohn in this interview with biographer Kai Bird:16mA Biography of Roy Cohn, with Kai Bird and Susan Goldmark118K views · 11 days ago YouTube · Library of Congress Washington Monthly Secretary Kennedy Is My Cousin.
It's an unfortunate irony, and a marker of how far we have come since 1968, that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. now works for Trump, whose ...PBS RFK's Enemies | American Experience | Official Site - PBS

He would last barely six months, done in by a rivalry with McCarthy's chief deputy, Roy Cohn, as well as disenchantment with their...JFK Library Cohn, Roy: Oral History Interview - RFK #1, 3/24/1971 | JFK LibraryRoy Cohn (1927-1986) was a lawyer and Chief Council for the Senate Committee on Government Operations. In a 1971 interview with Cohn

sometimes attribution goes too far.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 26 - 07:13 PM

Breaking news: Whistleblower says GHS agents are illegally accessing voter data.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 15 Sep 26 - 02:58 AM

"The Supreme Court has rejected the Trump administration’s attempt to enforce new mail-in ballot delivery rules that threatened to severely disrupt the looming midterm elections." politico

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Sep 26 - 10:15 AM

good news about voting.

Reports of US losses have finally appeared regarding the Iran war

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 16 Sep 26 - 05:14 PM

The Federal Reserve have put up interest rates: "Inflation has been running too high for too long." Breaking news on the Beeb: the Criminal-in-Chief says he wants interest rates to go down (instead?). My reaction: "That ain't breaking news, that's breaking wind."

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 17 Sep 26 - 12:37 PM

I am not sure but US and UK interest rates are separate agendas under Bank of England and US bosses and quite right too

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 26 - 08:19 PM

yep

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 18 Sep 26 - 02:57 PM

"Democrats have blocked President Trump’s $2.8 billion weapons transfer to Israel.
The package included 40,000 one-ton bombs that were set to be delivered.
This rare congressional move has created a major clash between the White House and Democrats.
It marks a significant escalation in the political battle over US support for Israel." from fb

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: You gotta be a football hero
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Sep 26 - 08:30 AM

We want a big win, we want a big win
We want a great sin, we want a big win
We want crazies to drown
He's on the 50, the 40, the 30, the 20
15, 10, 5, Touchdown!
You gotta be a right wing hero
To date all the beautiful girls
You gotta be a touchdown getter, you bet
If you wanna get a baby to bed
The fact that you are rich or handsome
Won't get you anything in curls
You gotta be an Epstein hero
To rape all the beautiful girls
Rich men from Maine to California
Gimme your attention while I warn ya
You gotta be a right-wing hero
To get with the beautiful girls
Despite all a million dollars can do
A tickle or two will mean more to you
If you can make the winning score
You'll never have to buy a whore
You gotta be a right wing hero
To get along with the Epstein girls, girls, girls
To get along with the cutr little girls

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Sep 26 - 01:42 PM

Trump is trying to ban CNN, Politico, and MSNOW from being part of the press pool that covers the broadcast portion of press briefings, so the entire press pool (including FOX, whose rep is head of the press pool at this point) has withdrawn and will no longer broadcast any White House briefings. Print and radio will still cover it.

The First Amendment is at play here, the access by media even if they don't paint a flattering picture of what you're doing. The above-named media companies are suing, and that is a slam dunk for them. Trump is still distracting people from the Epstein files.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Sep 26 - 02:34 PM

#6 in the 14 Characteristics of Fascism (Dr Lawrence Britt, 2003) is ‘Controlled Mass Media’.

Check it out - and compare with Trumpistan. Scary, very scary.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Sep 26 - 11:49 PM

How Trump turned a refugee bureau into a $410 million deportation operation (Gift article Washington Post)
Inside the secret deals powering the president’s push to deport migrants to countries not their own.

What the Trump administration wanted “was fast money, with no strings attached,” said one former official who left the State Department over objections to the policy. “The whole point was to circumvent [congressional] notification that money was being sent to a government known to be corrupt.”

The Washington Post examined the Office of Remigration as part of The Deportation Project, a joint investigation into third-country removals conducted over six months by 26 media organizations in 15 countries, organized by Forbidden Stories, a nonprofit news organization based in Paris. Journalists interviewed dozens of former and current U.S. government officials, foreign leaders and immigration attorneys, reporting in seven of the third countries and speaking to 35 third-country nationals who were deported from the U.S.

At the center of the new system of third-country deportations is the State Department. Civil servants who spent their careers in humanitarian efforts are now tasked with helping the administration cajole countries into accepting migrants from around the world with little regard for the treatment they will receive once they depart the U.S.

Subject: BS: How to overcome oligarchs
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Sep 26 - 12:44 PM

Democracy is broken and is in the hands of oligarchs.
Going back to ancient Greek democracy offers some insightful solutions.
After a violent, wealthy ruler of Greece was assassinated, his brother took over and a revolution ensued. The people chose a man who was most against the oligarchs.
Demos = people Kratos = power
There were no professional politicians in the original democracy.
Every position was selected by a lottery be it for a jury or for Congress which had random people serve for a month at a time. Each of the 10 tribes had its own turn for the lottery.

The only vote was for who you believed needed to be ostracized for supporting oligarchs.

There were other positions that were based on expertise such as water controlers. People like policemen were unfortunetly normally slaves.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Sep 26 - 08:14 AM

Anyone threatening to ‘annihilate’ another member country on the floor of the UN, as The Fat, Ugly, Orange, American Bastard did yesterday, should be permanently banned from ever speaking at the UN again.

He. Is. Insane.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Sep 26 - 09:30 AM

He is merely a social psychopath. One in five people has those tendencies.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 25 Sep 26 - 02:29 AM

little t is racist ~ he does not like Iran, its leaders and religion

They do not play his game

It seems Venezuela and Cuba are next to suffer from bullying ~ the Venezuelan was kidnapped to stand trial in US
is that legal?

Cuba is being starved ~ and yes is this country to become part of US? states ~ the drugs income being a big part of Cuba's income

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Sep 26 - 08:56 AM

Cuba has had its second ongoing national blackout of their grid.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: The Sandman
Date: 25 Sep 26 - 12:06 PM

Did Fcebook, have a major part in electing Trump?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Sep 26 - 12:16 PM

The Supreme Court allows Trump to purge potential voters be they new citizens, birthright citizens, and people with name changes.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Sep 26 - 12:25 PM

Did Russia play a part in electing Trump?
Every investigation says yes.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Helen
Date: 25 Sep 26 - 02:27 PM

Donald Trump accuser E Jean Carroll finally gets her damages after lengthy court battle

"In short: E Jean Carroll, the only person to successfully sue US President Donald Trump for sexual assault, has received the damages awarded to her.

"Following a seven-year legal battle, funds of $US 5.6 million ($7.9 million) can now be released to the US journalist and writer.

"The president's legal team is attempting to claw the money back."

The best bit, IMHO, is:

"A second, much larger pay-out from Mr Trump to Ms Carroll is also working its way through the US court system.

"Ms Carroll said the money received 'is going to go to everything he hates'— women's rights, minority rights, the environment.

"Damages of $83.3 million were awarded from a defamation case that Ms Carroll launched against Mr Trump after he denied sexually assaulting her in the changing room of a Manhattan department store and called her a liar."

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Sep 26 - 03:34 PM

Instead of 35 people voting illegally, there will appear to be a million.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: The Sandman
Date: 25 Sep 26 - 04:51 PM

Every investigation says yes. " quote
what investigations?
much more likely Facebook was respomsible, source BBC
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51034641

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 26 Sep 26 - 02:17 AM

So Chinese President visits and all Media companies are barred from filming

Only filming was conducted by Chinese tv

Barring US media is a first step towards dictatorship and must be challenged ~ no country in the free world must get away with such action in my view

Ray

The reason for banning awas nothing to do with Chinese leader's visit twas as Trump spat

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Sep 26 - 03:01 AM

Yes Ray, I repeat what I said in my post of 21 Sep 26 - 02:34 PM…

”#6 in the 14 Characteristics of Fascism (Dr Lawrence Britt, 2003) is ‘Controlled Mass Media’.”

And here we are…

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Sep 26 - 01:17 PM

As you recall the primary official investigation into Russian election interference was the Special Counsel Investigation led by former FBI Director Robert Mueller, alongside major bipartisan congressional probes.

Then there was the Senate Intelligence Committee that had an Investigation which was a multi-year, bipartisan inquiry led by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that released a comprehensive five-volume final report by August 2020. Ot affirmed that Vladimir Putin ordered an extensive campaign to sabotage the election in favor of Trump. It detailed close interactions between Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and a Russian intelligence operative, characterizing it as a grave counterintelligence threat.

Then there was the Rubio investigation...    same conclusion.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Sep 26 - 02:11 PM

A meme making the rounds today:

"Terrible things are happening outside.
Poor helpless people are being dragged
out of their homes. Families are torn
apart. Men, women, and children are
separated. Children come home from school
to find that their parents have disappeared."

That is a selective use of the text from that page of Anne Frank's diary; the paragraphs selected can be used intact and make just as much or more sense today:


"Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of
night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged
out of their homes. They're allowed to take only a
knapsack and a little cash with them, and even then,
they're robbed of these possessions on the way.
Families are torn apart; men, women, and children
are separated. Children come home from school to
find that their parents have disappeared."

Diary of Anne Frank
January 13, 1943

Whatever people are allowed to take is often what they are carrying when they are jumped by ICE agents, they don't get to go home for possessions, so hopefully they have a phone and some money to navigate within the concentration camp where they end up. Because America has many thousands of people detained in concentration camps.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 28 Sep 26 - 01:35 AM

Thank god for Britain and pray we do not have such high handed treatment ~ or are we nearly there now?


Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Sep 26 - 02:47 AM

Sadly, Ray, the tactics of the Drumpf Regime are being employed in the UK by Reform UK’s acolytes - I saw a post this morning from a Green councillor who, along with 20-plus other Green and Conservative councillors, has been ‘named and shamed’ and branded ‘traitors’ by Reform because the didn’t support a Reform motion.

The Political language of Trumpistan is beginning to migrate across the Atlantic. God help us.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 28 Sep 26 - 06:28 AM

Reform and the Tories are sowing the seeds of capitalism and using taxation as ruse

we cannot pay for Social Care and Welfare benefits and all the other public expenditure without taxation in all its forms

Frightening the lower paid in taxation terms is not on and with the aim of encouraging people to vote for them ~


Stick with who you know and trust, not the wealthy classes

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Sep 26 - 07:41 AM

Billionaires need your sacrifice. (my bumper sticker)

People in Kansas are being arrested and dragged from their cars because of an unpaid $50 medical bill. Thank you Senator Marshall.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Sep 26 - 08:39 AM

The success of Trump's revenge and retribution is phenomenal.
After Dr. Fauci contradicted genius Trump regarding COVID, the doctor was investigated for years. Now we die from measles and 10,000 people in Africa have Ebola. RFK Junior is only one conspiracy nut.

LOOK at his revenge history https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-retribution-tracker/

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Sep 26 - 12:04 PM

Drumpf reportedly claiming that the five suspects in the RAF Fairford incident had been ‘investigated for weeks’ and that ‘we got them’!

No you didn’t, you fat, orange, lying moron, they were reported to the UK police by a local farmer’s wife, and the police intercepted and arrested them. Fuck all to do with US forces, and absolutely nothing to do with that fat, demented bastard.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Rain Dog
Date: 28 Sep 26 - 01:18 PM

It remains to be seen who knew what about the plot.

Meanwhile I liked this cartoon in The Guardian.

Ben Jennings on the suspected terror plot at RAF Fairford – cartoon

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Sep 26 - 03:10 PM

People react poorly when they are hurt or scared. Trump is the most hurt and scared President I have ever seen.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 29 Sep 26 - 07:06 AM

One of the commentators on the telly said the Fairford incident may have actually been an attempt to steal diesel from the farms in the area. It was just the would-be thieves' bad luck that they happened to walk into an active anti-terrorist operation .... and everybody else's bad luck that the Toddler-in-Chief got to hear about it. What was said about the local farmer^† not having full information about the incident could just as well apply to Diddums.

† I *think* she was the second person to phone the Constabulary about suspicious behaviour.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Sep 26 - 07:41 AM

”† I *think* she was the second person to phone the Constabulary about suspicious behaviour.”

I think you’re right. It seems that the police didn’t act on the first report.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Sep 26 - 06:33 PM

An interregnum is a gap or period of time when a country, organization, or social order does not have a leader or functioning government.

America is under an interregnum.

What makes Brazil or Hungary smart enough to rid or jail their dictator centered coup?

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Sep 26 - 03:11 AM

It appears, according to BBC News this morning, that the first 999 call in the Fairford incident was made by one of the five men who were arrested and now bailed by the police. Not exactly the act of an espionage-master-mind, not even of a hardened criminal out on the rob, is it?

And Drumpf’s claims that “We’ve been watching them for weeks” and “We got them” are becoming more ludicrous and even more obviously bare-faced lies every day.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 30 Sep 26 - 07:15 AM

What's he know?

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Sep 26 - 09:55 AM

Unfortunately, Ray, 77 million MAGAts think he knows everything.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 30 Sep 26 - 10:12 AM

Blind leading the blind

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 26 - 10:38 AM

MAGA has become MALA. We're becoming last again after 250 years. There are economic indicators that are disturbing. Cardboard is an economic indicator but now things like bourbon sales have dropped by half because of the trade war with Canada. NATO isn't buying as much American weapons, so we are now selling weapons to China and Saudi Arabia. Even our own TV game shows have contestants opting more often to take money rather than prizes. We are selling AI chips however.
Tariffs, trade wars and bribery economics are to blame imo.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 26 - 10:59 AM

Housing is in sad shape. Lots for sale but few buyers because of the rising 7% mortgage rate.

Due to our KKK President the country has been hoodwinked.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Sep 26 - 12:15 PM

I'm reading a book first published in 1987 called The Accommodation: The Politics of Race in an American City by journalist Jim Schutze. It was reissued in 2022 and is as timely a book to read now as any I can think of. It describes Dallas's resistance to ending slavery, to how awful it treated African American residents through the decades after Reconstruction, and how in the 1950s when bombing of Black homes started the white town leaders kind of got it to stop, but the KKK was huge there. And the hate that simmered was ready to boil over in 1961 when schools were forced to integrate. Dallas did the least amount, they managed token integration that they thought would work, but the local paper, the Dallas Morning News, was a festering tome of hate and awful editorials against liberal thinking, the Kennedys, and integration. It's clear they hated the Kennedys and what they stood for and how, to my surprise, Stanley Marcus of Nieman Marcus department stores, in that sea of hate was a voice of reason, at times able to calm squabbles, and when interviewed had keen observations after the assassination:

Marcus says now "I remember also that, following the assassination, there was a great desire on the part of the [white civic] leadership to cope with the situation. The word 'cope' was the way to describe it. And everyone was saying, 'Well, it could have happened anywhere.'

"Of course that was true. But it did happen here, and it happened partially because of the atmosphere that attracted that kind of fanatic nut. And when a community doesn't do anything to express disapprobation, it is logical that it will attract more and more of them."¹⁹³

It sounds exactly like Washington, D.C. now and how the GOP isn't showing any disapprobation, or, even more appropriately, outrage for the crimes Drumpf and his sycophants are committing, sixty years later. Their racist hatred has never gone away, but now they are normalizing it.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 30 Sep 26 - 02:20 PM

The Republican party are simply sitting pretty as it suits them to do so

Not a pretty sight and bad democracy ~ they are happy while little t messes about

US is not in a good place and we know that what goes round comes round ~ sooner the better

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: robomatic
Date: 30 Sep 26 - 02:29 PM

'A Closer Look' with Seth Meyers

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Helen
Date: 01 Oct 26 - 02:32 PM

Renee Good's family sues Trump administration over fatal Minneapolis ICE shooting

"The family of Renee Good, one of two US citizens fatally shot by US immigration agents in Minneapolis in January, is suing US President Donald Trump's administration over her killing during deportation sweeps.

"Ms Good, 37, was shot dead in her car by a US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent on January 7, when she and her wife joined one of the city's daily protests against masked and armed federal agents deployed to Minnesota to arrest migrants for deportation.

"The two lawsuits say Trump administration officials were negligent and violated the civil rights of Ms Good and others in Minneapolis, demanding a jury trial and damages."

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Oct 26 - 03:03 PM

How to eat an elephant one voter as a time is a book that shows the ongoing destruction of the Republican party.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 02 Oct 26 - 02:21 AM

US under Trump has Lost the Plot ~ a dictatorship and no one doing anything significant

Eat

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 26 - 07:28 AM

Veterans are suing President Bonespur pver the trump Arch in front of Arlington cemetery.

The DOJ is suing my county for banning UCE facemasks.

The Kennedy Memorial is closed and has plans drawn up for demolition.
Only one vote in Congress saved the memorial from destruction so far.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 02 Oct 26 - 12:08 PM

There's two felonious activities going on, which are separate but interlinked and mutually reinforcing:

* The circular-financing scam known as Artifical Incontinence is about all that's stopping Wall Street from descending to the bottom of the canyon, Wile E Coyote style, hotly pursued by an anvil.

* Meanwhile, the Incontinent-in-Chief is defying legal gravity, and finding ever more gratuitous ways to spread his displeasure whenever he wakes up in the morning and finds he's shat the bed.

The tech bros and other assorted trustifarians are using Drumpf as cover, while they build their empires and fallout hideaways; at the same time, he's using them to keep the economy from imploding, and thereby himself in office. Take either away, and I fear the inhabitants of Canada Méridional will start a second civil war^† over whether to rename it Trumpistan or Gilead. Exit Vlad, stage right, giggling.

† Not that the first one ever really ended.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 26 - 03:31 PM

When you don't obey the constitution, you are left with Louis the 16th solutions.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 26 - 07:38 AM

The Cornell gang rape case that was stymied by the college, probably because of the kid's fathers being alumni financial doners, was mentioned by President Grump. He said the poor boys will not be treated fairly. He did not mention the victim. He instead condemned Letitia James who was appointed by the NY Governor to investigate the gang rape.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Rain Dog
Date: 04 Oct 26 - 12:20 PM

Those of you from outside the USA might find the following of interest.

BBC Radio 4

America’s Gerrymandering Arms Race

"This is the story of the drawing - and redrawing - of electoral battle lines in an unprecedented gerrymandering war that some observers say is undermining democracy in the United States.

BBC North America correspondent Anthony Zurcher explores how a once-a-decade act of political admin has turned into a rolling process of extreme political partisanship, as the Democrats and Republicans compete to redraw voting districts in their favour, trying to lock in guaranteed majorities, and upending electoral norms."


"extreme political partisanship" hardly begins to describe it.

Hearing about California's Proposition 50 was an eye opener.

I think it will be a long time before an independent body emerges in the USA to oversee the redrawing of districts.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 05 Oct 26 - 09:23 AM

I heard that broadcast, Rain Dog. Most enlightening: it would appear that 95% or more of USAnians live in what those who know any English history might think of as "rotten boroughs". This particular form of political rot seems to have spread (back) here, sadly.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 26 - 06:16 PM

There is more than a glimmer of hope that the Dems will win the house and maybe the Senate in 3 weeks.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Oct 26 - 01:33 AM

Hope so

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Hrothgar
Date: 06 Oct 26 - 03:09 AM

Thank God for the Australian Electoral Commission, which is an independent body that sets and resets electorate boundaries in line with population changes.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Helen
Date: 06 Oct 26 - 04:56 AM

Thank God for the Australian democratic government system with its checks and balances, guardrails, and (mostly) strong and ethical defenders of the system. We have had some hard times, but usually a balance of common sense prevails even if it takes a little longer than some of us would hope. And I still strongly believe that compulsory voting is a key cornerstone of our democracy. None of this "will I or won't I vote" guff, every adult citizen has a say in the elections.

Subject: RE: Drumpf 47: Rapist, Felon, Epstein friend**
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Oct 26 - 05:40 AM

In the Land of Oz is compulsory to get your name ticked off, people are expected to vote when they have done that & have been given ballot papers, but who knows what people write on these papers.

Some folk do not want to vote - apparently it's against a particular cult/sects religion - other are accidentally careless, & of course others are deliberately - how shall I put it?

I'll quote the Australian Electoral Commission - Analysis of informal voting (House of Representatives 2016 Election) ... More than a quarter of all informal votes cast in 2016 had incomplete numbering, with more than half of these showing a number ‘1’ only. A further quarter of all informal ballots cast were totally blank, while about one in five were informal due to scribbles, slogans or other protest vote marks and one in six showed non-sequential numbering ...