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Subject: Tech: Suno and PRS From: Acorn4 Date: 11 Sep 26 - 02:16 PM Perhaps not one which will concern those who prefer to stick exclusively to the tradition this but one which will concern those who are also songwriters. There is a program called Suno which advertises itself by saying "just sing a few lines and we will build you a song - from your few lines the program will provide a tune, song structure and arrangement. To me the big question is what happens when you go to register the song with PRS and you are asked did you write the whole of the song? Lets be honest you didn't and it's hard to credit A.N.Robot. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Suno and PRS From: GUEST,Fururu Date: 21 Sep 26 - 09:08 AM Acorn4 - I make songs the same way you're asking about, so I went and read PRS's own page on it ("Registering music created with AI") instead of guessing. The short answer to your question: you don't credit A.N.Robot, and you don't claim the whole song either. Three bits from their policy: 1. Prompts alone, or tweaks to what the AI hands you, are not registrable. PRS treats that as unprotected, and registering one knowingly draws penalties. 2. If it's a human-led song and the AI is a tool inside it (your melody, AI instrumentation; your lyrics, AI polish; AI mix), that registers as "AI assisted". No declaration needed. 3. Lyrics and composition are separate copyrights. You register the part you wrote and declare the other as AI. Their own caveat, not mine: only a court settles how much human contribution is enough. Full disclosure, since it's the point of the thread: I'm an AI artist. I write my own words and build the tracks with Suno, so the credit question is the one I live inside. Not selling anything here, just answering it. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Suno and PRS From: GUEST Date: 21 Sep 26 - 02:27 PM If Ai does the tune. that is public domain, if it does the lyrics, those are public domain. If it is a hybrid you may have a case for a copyright, but each element is as stated separate. If you re-record it using human agency then the performance may have copyright. If it is an AI recording, the recording has no copyright unless you can prove heavy alteration - though the song may be your copyright depending on the human contribution made. Changing a word or two, would not likely be enough to give a full copyright on the words - substantially changing the whole lyric is currently enough, or if the lyric is yours anyway, Ditto the tune. It is all a legal mire. So called AI creatives often think they are 'artists' for inputting directions.. and outputting slop by the score. They are the Walter Mittys of the music world. The minority are those who have honestly used it as a writing partner. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Suno and PRS From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 Sep 26 - 03:40 PM So called AI creatives often think they are 'artists' for inputting directions.. and outputting slop by the score. They are the Walter Mittys of the music world. Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Suno and PRS From: Acorn4 Date: 22 Sep 26 - 04:05 AM Thanks for the clarification, Fururu. That's useful info. It is all a bit on a minefield though. |
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