Lyr ADD: My Lady of Autumn (Dave Webber)

Subject: Lady of Autumn ( I think)
From: TerriM
Date: 30 Jan 00 - 11:29 AM

Right then, my genial and genius-inspired playmates.. how does the rest of this go?

Lady of autumn, sing me your song
Play me your tune
Tell me I'm wrong
tell me you don't mean the things that you say
Tell me that we'll find a way

It's been driving me crazy , well alright, maybe's it's just a short walk in my case, but anyway, a big wet sloppy kiss to anyone who has the rest of the lyric.

Terri

Subject: Lyr Add: MY LADY OF AUTUMN (Dave Webber) ^^
From: Pelrad
Date: 30 Jan 00 - 11:52 AM

I'll take that big wet sloppy kiss. lol
I forget who wrote it, though; I got it from Johnny Collins. I want to say John Connely; but that's not right...

MY LADY OF AUTUMN
(Dave Webber)

CH: My Lady of Autumn, sing me your song
Play me your tune; tell me I'm wrong
Tell me you don't mean the things that you say
Tell me that we'll find a way.

Your eye clear as winter, your touch fresh as spring
You weigh like the summer, free as birds on the wing
The seasons are changing, it's time you were gone
The colors of you will go on.

Fields that were golden are changing to brown
Leaves that were green now tumble to the ground
The warm sun of summer makes way for the snow
I know it's time; you must go.

The light, it is changing, the sky's overcast
Winter is here now, autumn is past
Deep in this dark world some warmth I must find
Though it's winter in the valley, it's still autumn in my mind.
^^

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Barbara
Date: 30 Jan 00 - 11:54 AM

Dave Webber wrote it.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Pelrad
Date: 30 Jan 00 - 11:57 AM

Thanks, Barbara! I was just looking all over the place to figure out the author. :-)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: TerriM
Date: 30 Jan 00 - 01:07 PM

Big wet sloppy kiss coming right up < mmmmmmmmaaaaaa> I've heard Pearl O'Neil do it loads of times, but never heard Johnny sing it.Many thanks, Pelrad, you can be my hero all day for that :) Terri

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Peg
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 11:34 AM

i believe i heard a group called Beggar's Velvet (great name!!!) singing this on the radio recently... a wonderful song...beautiful harmonies in their version. peg

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: GUEST,Mbo
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 04:38 PM

Good Lord, this is a gorgeous song!!! I love sad autumn songs! Makes me feel good and lowzy, like I should.

--Mbo

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: GUEST,bigJ
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 05:15 PM

Peg, you did hear the group Beggars Velvet sing the song. It was on their LP 'Lady of Autumn' Dragon Records DRGN 901 (c1990). The group was made up of Dave Webber, Anni Fentiman, and Cathy and Charley Yarwood. There were also four other Webber songs on it.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Joan
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 05:16 PM

Beggar's Velvet was made up of Dave Webber, his wife, Anni Fentiman, plus another couple who are no longer a couple. I once asked Dave about the name of the group, and he says beggar's velvet is a euphemism for the dust balls you find under the bed. (I refer to those as schmemfs)

Anni and Dave perform together now, with the same sort of tight harmony singing and Dave's dynamite voice. They have a web site that you can check out, and some amazing CDs. Dave writes songs "in the tradition" and they're all well done--couldn't begin to choose a "most favorite."

Johnny Collins has been a close friend of theirs for a long time, sometimes part of each others' recordings.

Joan

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 05:22 PM

Sadly, the Beggar's Velvet LP "Lady of Autumn" hasn't (yet?) appeared on LP. If you want a cassette, CAMSCO (who else?) stocks it.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Barbara
Date: 18 Feb 00 - 02:53 AM

You mean has not yet appeared on CD, Dick? Getting old, are we? It's a lovely cassette. Lots of other good songs on it and wonderful harmonies. Kids, get yours today. Just send 2 boxtops and -- $10, Dick? -- to CAMSCO.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Peg
Date: 18 Feb 00 - 11:04 AM

i would love to get a copy; i would have thought it was on CD since it was played on A Celtic Sojourn (or was it Folk Heritage?) and they usually only play fairly well-known or well-distributed artists...well i will loo foer it; what is CAMSCO? forgive my ignorance... peg

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 18 Feb 00 - 11:47 AM

peg- CRASS COMMERCIAL ANNOUNCEMENT TO FOLLOW

CAMSCO (or Camsco Music, to be formal)is a record retailer specializing in folk music. I happen to own it, but that's not really the point. CAMSCO has been making hard-to-find folk recordings available at competitive prices for the better part of a decade. In addition to a pretty-damn-big catalog, we can get you just about any recording, US or overseas, that's in print.
You can reach CAMSCO at The Mudcat Shop or at www.camsco.com
At the Mudcat Shop, Mudcat gets a cut; if you go through camsco.com (which has a more complete list), just mention Mudcat, and Mudcat will get a cut. About the only folk recordings CAMSCO doesn't normally carry are those produced by Folk-Legacy (Sandy Paton). Not because we don't like them--FL recordings are generally superb--but because FL is also available at The Mudcat Shop, and Sandy is quite competent to sell his own wares.
Frankly (even recognizing that I have a vested interest here) I can't see why anyone would buy recordings from anyone else besides CAMSCO and Folk-Legacy. Give 'em a try!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: GUEST,Gary Martin
Date: 18 Feb 00 - 05:14 PM

Lady of Autumn is also on Dave and Anni's latest CD, Constant Lovers. Details at http://freespace.virgin.net/daveandanni.music/fourcds.html.

There's also an error in Pelrad's posted lyrics. "You weigh like the summer" is a mishearing of "Your way, like the summer".

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Pelrad
Date: 18 Feb 00 - 09:13 PM

Thanks, Gary. :-) I did learn it by ear from a 1980s recording of Johnny in concert, so I'm not surprised I missed a few words. And no, there is no copy of that concert for sale, as it was in my living room.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: GUEST,Hollywell Horrors
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 06:04 PM

Dave will tell no person the origin of this song, 'cept maybe Anni now they are married, but it has a very deep meaning for him as can be felt in the words.

Cheers

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Barbara
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 08:35 PM

ANd when he talks about it in concert, Annie pitches a fit, sulks, and carries on like she's tired of hearing about the one that got away. Then she sings an exquisite harmony to it.
And it is on the CD Constant Lovers, like Gary points out. It's only Beggar's Velvet that isn't available.
Blessings,
BArbara

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: TerriM
Date: 20 Feb 00 - 09:04 AM

Johnny Collins was singing in your living room, Pel? God, it must be a BIG room or you have Very deaf neighbours!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Pelrad
Date: 20 Feb 00 - 12:07 PM

LOL We have very tolerant neighbors! It's a very crowded neighborhood, and there was constantly music going on in our house, but I never heard anyone complain. Not when Jim Maghean (poor man, I never could spell his name) or Johnny Collins were singing in our living room, not when they had probably heard the same song rehearsed 9,000 times in one night, and not even when a friend and I had a showdown with our bombardes in the back yard one fine summer day.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Micca
Date: 20 Feb 00 - 01:03 PM

Do you mean Bombardes? as in Catalonia? double reed oboe like? then you must be fairly deaf too ****BG*** as we carried a Giant behind a Catalan band of 12 ( Twelve) of them through narrow streets in Spain and I couldnt make the guide hear me from 2 feet away even shouting as loud as I could (and I am LOUD) Tolerant neighbours? I wish.... and Johnny can lift the slates on occasion too...as for him and Jim together, wonderful volume and Timbre too.... if wou want a good story ask him about the Towersey Lifeboat and Tea-bar.......

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Pelrad
Date: 20 Feb 00 - 11:23 PM

Wow, 12 bombardes. You must have suffered permanent hearing loss! Yes, those are the bombardes I mean. It's difficult to find a place to practice...I used to shut myself up in a supposedly soundproof concrete-walled cubicle in the university's music department, and people would come from all around to see what was making the racket. I fell in love with that racket the first time I heard it. Between that and my jenday conure (read, "really loud and shrill parrot"), I really do have permanent hearing loss!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 21 Feb 00 - 08:02 AM

I seem to remember a piece for church organ and bombarde being played at a festival in Killarney some years ago. The bombarde won hands down!

Regards

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: wildlone
Date: 30 Dec 00 - 03:02 PM

ANOTHER CRASS COMMERCIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
The Beggar's Velvet, Lady of Autumn is on
ONTCD2001
Released on the Old and New Tradition label

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 30 Dec 00 - 03:15 PM

And the CD is available at CAMSCO ($15)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: jayohjo
Date: 30 Dec 00 - 06:22 PM

I flippin love this song - always reminds me of the fab time I had at Sidmouth last year! I heard a vague tale of the origin, but not sure I believe it.....

jayohjo XX

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 30 Sep 01 - 08:27 PM

Refresh- it sounded great in the kitchen last night!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lady of Autumn
From: Wotcha
Date: 16 May 03 - 07:33 PM

Sounded great accompanied by melodian at the Drummer's Lot in Annapolis during last night's shanty sing!

Cheers,

Brian

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My Lady of Autumn (Dave Webber)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 07 Dec 09 - 10:18 AM

Superb rendition here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix6YDxvO_9A

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My Lady of Autumn (Dave Webber)
From: Wotcha
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 04:45 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmOP6ufjya0

Another rendition from a South Devon pub -- apparently their pub anthem ...

God Jul
Med vennilig hilsen


Brian

Subject: ADD: My Lady of Autumn (Dave Webber)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 08:59 PM

Pelrad has a good transcription above, but there are few parts I question. My main question is Pelrad's "You weigh like the summer." Here's my transcription from the Constant Lovers album. Any corrections, comments?

MY LADY OF AUTUMN
(Dave Webber)

CHORUS:
My Lady of Autumn, sing me your song
Play me your tune; tell me I'm wrong
Tell me you don't mean the things that you say
Tell me that we'll find a way.

Your eye clear as winter, your touch fresh as spring
Your way like the summer, free as birds on the wing
But the seasons are changing, it's time you were gone
But the colors of you will go on.

The fields that were golden are changing to brown
The leaves that were green tumble to the ground
And the warm sun of summer makes way for the snow
I know it's time; you must go.

For the light, it is changing, the sky's overcast
Winter is here now, autumn is past
And deep in this dark world some warmth I must find
Though it's winter in the valley, it's still autumn in my mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdh6BQSLkaQ

Subject: RE: Lyr ADD: My Lady of Autumn (Dave Webber)
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 09:24 PM

Joe

My transcription from the Beggars Velvet lp has You're away like the Summer

Mick

Subject: RE: Lyr ADD: My Lady of Autumn (Dave Webber)
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 24 Sep 20 - 10:12 AM

I have the Beggars Velvet CD: always heard it as "Your way".
Could ask Anni? She is on Facebook.

Subject: RE: Lyr ADD: My Lady of Autumn (Dave Webber)
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 24 Sep 20 - 02:49 PM

Here's a blue clicky to Dave and Anni's website....

Kitty

Subject: Lyr ADD: My Lady of Autumn (Dave Webber)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Sep 20 - 03:00 PM

Thank you, Kitty - I had found the Website, but not the page with the lyrics. Here are the lyrics from the Webber-Fentiman Website, which I think we can consider to be definitive (although my transcription was pretty darn close to this):

LADY OF AUTUMN
(Dave Webber)

1.
My lady of Autumn sing me your song,
Play me your tune, tell me I'm wrong,
Tell me you don't mean the things that you say,
Tell me that we'll find a way.

2.
Your eye clear as Winter, your touch fresh as spring,
Your way like the summer, free as birds on the wing,
But the seasons are changing, it's time you were gone,
But the colours of you will go on.

3.
The fields that were golden are changing to brown,
The leaves that were green tumble to the ground,
And the warm sun of Summer makes way for the snow,
I know it's time you must go

4.
For the light it is changing the sky's overcast,
Winter is here now, Autumn is past,
And deep in this dark world some warmth I must find,
Though it's Winter in the valley, It's still Autumn in my mind.

My lady of Autumn sing me your song,
Play me your tune, tell me I'm wrong,
Tell me you don't mean the things that you say,
Tell me that we'll find a way.

Subject: RE: Lyr ADD: My Lady of Autumn (Dave Webber)
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 24 Sep 20 - 06:15 PM

Sorry Joe,
Except that.....they themselves and most other people who sing it use what you have down as verse 1 as the chorus, so it goes:

Chorus My Lady
V1 Your eye...
Chorus My Lady
V2 The fields.....
Chorus My lady
V3 For the light....
Chorus My lady
That really is the definitive version