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HTML Pracise Feb00

Ted from Australia 05 Feb 00 - 08:16 PM
Joe Offer 05 Feb 00 - 08:21 PM
Ted from Australia 05 Feb 00 - 08:24 PM
Sorcha 05 Feb 00 - 08:31 PM
Sorcha 05 Feb 00 - 08:44 PM
Sorcha 05 Feb 00 - 08:48 PM
GUEST 06 Feb 00 - 08:31 PM
GUEST 06 Feb 00 - 08:33 PM
Amos 06 Feb 00 - 09:16 PM
Sorcha 07 Feb 00 - 05:07 PM
Sorcha 07 Feb 00 - 05:08 PM
Ted from Australia 08 Feb 00 - 08:00 AM
Wincing Devil 08 Feb 00 - 02:11 PM
Wincing Devil 08 Feb 00 - 02:13 PM
Snuffy 08 Feb 00 - 04:25 PM
Ted from Australia 08 Feb 00 - 05:01 PM
AKS 14 Feb 00 - 03:36 AM
MudGuard 14 Feb 00 - 04:34 AM
MudGuard 14 Feb 00 - 04:36 AM
Mary in Kentucky 16 Feb 00 - 07:47 PM
Mary in Kentucky 16 Feb 00 - 07:50 PM
MudGuard 17 Feb 00 - 05:11 AM
Mary in Kentucky 17 Feb 00 - 08:11 AM
Mary in Kentucky 17 Feb 00 - 08:14 AM
Wincing Devil 17 Feb 00 - 11:46 AM
Wincing Devil 17 Feb 00 - 11:55 AM
Amos 18 Feb 00 - 12:05 PM
Joe Offer 19 Feb 00 - 04:11 AM
Joe Offer 19 Feb 00 - 04:12 AM
Mary in Kentucky 19 Feb 00 - 11:34 AM
JedMarum 03 Mar 00 - 09:19 AM
thosp 03 Mar 00 - 07:16 PM
MudGuard 04 Mar 00 - 08:55 AM
thosp 05 Mar 00 - 07:34 PM
bill\sables 06 Mar 00 - 07:47 AM
Scotsbard 07 Mar 00 - 01:11 PM
Scotsbard 07 Mar 00 - 01:18 PM
Scotsbard 07 Mar 00 - 07:12 PM
Scotsbard 07 Mar 00 - 07:18 PM
MudGuard 08 Mar 00 - 01:38 AM
GUEST,Jim Dixon 08 Mar 00 - 05:04 PM
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Subject: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Ted from Australia
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:16 PM

Steeleye Span: Longbone

Steeleye Span: Longbone

[Steeleye Span]

This track is from Steeleye Span's reunion album Sails Of Silver. A live recording from the Royal Opera Theatre in Adelaide, Autralia in 1982 was released on the rare Australian-only LP On Tour.

Lyrics

Em G

There was a king who built a ship, And sailed away
Em G D
To look for gold in the hills of Scone.-- Far away
G C Am G
The only gold in the hills of Scone Is gold you'll never own

D
It belongs to the giant Longbone . Far away
Chorus

G C G C
The only gold I've ever known -----It all belonged to the giant Longbone
G Am
The only gold I've ever known belonged to the giant Longbone
 

His teeth are sharp, his claws are long-- So they say
His eyes are like a fire that burns--Far away
We will go to the hills of Scone We'll find the giant Longbone
We'll turn him into stone---Far away

Chorus

Em G

Through the rain and through the snow ---We sailed away

Em G D
To the land where only fools go---Far away

G D
We stepped onto the shore

Em
And then we heard him roar He must have seen us

Em G

We tried to hide, we tried to run---Run away

Em G D
He killed the crew, he threw the boat---Far away

G D
And the he said ``We are alone

Em D
I am the giant Longbone---You should have stayed at home--Far away''

Chorus


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Subject: RE: HTML Practice Feb00
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:21 PM

Copied from a message from Okiemockingbird:

I find it useful for a practice thread to have links to here (http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/) and to here (http://www.ncdesign.org/html/list.htm).

T.


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Ted from Australia
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:24 PM

Steeleye Span: Longbone

Steeleye Span: Longbone

[Steeleye Span]

This track is from Steeleye Span's reunion album Sails Of Silver. A live recording from the Royal Opera Theatre in Adelaide, Autralia in 1982 was released on the rare Australian-only LP On Tour.

Lyrics

Em~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~G

There was a king who built a ship, And sailed away
Em~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~G ~~D
To look for gold in the hills of Scone.-- Far away
G~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~C ~~~~Am~~~~~~~ G
The only gold in the hills of Scone Is gold you'll never own

D
It belongs to the giant Longbone . Far away
Chorus

G~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~C~~~~~ G~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ C
The only gold I've ever known -----It all belonged to the giant Longbone
G~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Am
The only gold I've ever known belonged to the giant Longbone
 

His teeth are sharp, his claws are long-- So they say
His eyes are like a fire that burns--Far away
We will go to the hills of Scone We'll find the giant Longbone
We'll turn him into stone---Far away

Chorus

Em~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ G

Through the rain and through the snow ---We sailed away

Em~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~G D
To the land where only fools go---Far away

G~~~~~~~~~~~~~~D
We stepped onto the shore

Em
And then we heard him roar He must have seen us

Em~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~G

We tried to hide, we tried to run---Run away

Em~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~G~~~~~~D
He killed the crew, he threw the boat---Far away

G~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~D
And the he said ``We are alone

Em~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~D
I am the giant Longbone---You should have stayed at home--Far away''

Chorus


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:31 PM

Hi, Sorcha testing this stuff<"#FF0000">tryingto <"#00800">learn how to do this <"#8000080">stuff


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:44 PM

This site here is also helpful and EZ to understand, anyway for me.


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:48 PM

Well, the sucker almost worked...click SEARCH, then choose Webmonkey from the pull down menu. Gonna try some colors again.... red black


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 00 - 08:31 PM

hjsdhachciohj

jksdjfksjksdjk


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 00 - 08:33 PM

jkjsdkjkljsdklj
hhjsdjhdjks


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Amos
Date: 06 Feb 00 - 09:16 PM

My love sent me a blue letter
And I carefullyy re'd the news
She thought I had been lime to her
ANd stolen her chartreuse
I wrote her by the answering post
Assuring her my love
But she did spurn me and my prose
Did fail her heart to mauve


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 05:07 PM

For a complete table of special characters, and lots of other neat stuff try thisThey work for me, anyway


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 05:08 PM

For a complete table of special characters, and lots of other neat stuff try thisThey work for me, anyway


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Ted from Australia
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 08:00 AM

If you use word 97 or above format everything as you want it in word, SAVE: as HTML, VIEW: html source, COPY: to clipboard then PASTE: into message box (here)

LIKE THIS

LIKE THIS



Then you do not have to learn any but the most basic HTML codes such as line breaks

regards Ted


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 02:11 PM

I can't stress highly enough the value of learning some basic HTML! See the HTML Goodies page. Then you can do all sorts of simple neat stuff like:

Wincing_Devil

There is no such thing as an ugly cat (http://www.ILoveMySphynx.com)


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 02:13 PM

Even the best laid plans of mice and men...
That should have been:

Wincing_Devil

There is no such thing as an ugly cat (http://www.ILoveMySphynx.com)


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Snuffy
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 04:25 PM

Ted

Pasting from Word 97 puts a lot of junk HTML into the message, much of which shouldn't be there. Your message 08-Feb-00 - 08:07 AM actually appears like this if you View Source on the Forum Page:

<P>If you use word 97 or above format everything as you want it in word, SAVE: as HTML, VIEW: html source, COPY: to clipboard then PASTE: into message box (here)<br> <P>
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="Microsoft Word 97">
<TITLE>LIKE THIS</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>
<P></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=6>L</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=6 COLOR="#ff00ff">I</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=6>K</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=6 COLOR="#00ff00">E</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=6> THIS</P></FONT>
</BODY>
</HTML>

<br>
<br>
Then you do not have to learn any but the most basic HTML codes such as line breaks
<br>
<br>
and blue clickies regards Ted
<P>
You should only paste the bit between the <BODY> and </BODY> tags. Max's elves put the stuff in bold at the very start and end of the whole thread, as it relates to the whole document, rather than individual messages.

Even so, it's a pretty nifty tool, especially when you've got long messages and/or lots of tricky formatting.

Keep on experimenting - maybe one day you'll get to LVeMaiL, rather than HaTeMaiL

Wassail!

V


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Ted from Australia
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 05:01 PM

Snuffy

Thanx :-)> (with loud chuckle)

I understand and use html, but the tip is for the musos who have better things to do than muck about with codes when they are struggling to post lyrics and chords.
I take your point about the rubbish

Regards Ted


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: AKS
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 03:36 AM

How does this look like:

vokaalit (Win NT, Finnish kb): aeiouyäöå
accented vowels (Win NT, English UK kb): áéíóú

aks


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: MudGuard
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 04:34 AM

To get accented letters, it is better to use the html symbolic characters, as these are interpreted by the browser (so they work even if the computer the page is viewed uses a different character set than the one where the page is written):
&<one of aeiou><one of acute, grave, circ, uml, ring>;
eg:
&aring; for å
&eacute; for é
&iuml; for ï
&ograve; for ò
&ucirc; for û
Careful: while HTML is usually case-insensitive, with these it is!

ring does only work for a and A, all the others work for all five vowels, small or capital.
acute and trema also work for y and Y.
uml, tilde, cedil, acute also work without a vowel, but not grave (why? I don't know!)

eg:
&Aring; for Å
&Euml; for Ë

There are more of these symbolic characters:
&amp; for &
&quot; for "
&szlig; for ß
&gt; for >
&lt; for <
&copy; for ©
&reg; for ®
&acute; for ´
&aelig; for æ (also for AE)
&laquo; for «
&raquo; for »
&iexcl; for ¡
&iquest; for ¿
&Atilde; for à (works also for a, n, N, o, O)
&Ccedil; for Ç (similar for c)
&Oslash; for Ø (similar for o)
&sect; for §
&para; for ¶
&micro; for µ
&brvbar; for ¦
&plusmn; for ±
&deg; for °
&darr; for ↓ (d for down, u for up, l for left, r for right, h for horizontal (both left and right))
&frac14; for ¼ (also works for 12,34)
&times; for ×
&divide; for ÷
&bull; for •
&middot; for ·
&sup14; for ¹ (also works for 2 and 3)
&shy; for ­
&macr; for ¯
&cent; for ¢
&pound; for £
&yen; for ¥

You can also use (most of ?) the greek alphabet, just use &<name of greek letter>; (e.g.: &alpha; for α, &Gamma; for Γ) If you use a small letter as the first letter, you will get the small greek letter; if you use a capital as first letter, you get the capital greek letter.

There are also a lot of mathematical and a few other symbols which I'd have to look up, as I do not use them very often.

Btw., this is one point where internet Exploder is better than Netscape Navigator: Netscape does not interprete all these symbols...

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: MudGuard
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 04:36 AM

Just noticed a mistake in my above posting, of course it has to be:

&sup1; for ¹ (also works for 2 and 3)

(sometimes copy and paste can be nasty)
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 07:47 PM

I can't get the Greek letters...why? (I'm using MIE)

copyright ©

pound sign £

beta β


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 07:50 PM

The Β did work! For some reason it doesn't on my computer, but when I send it to the Mudcat it does! Thanks for all the above info. Any other links that summarize all this?


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: MudGuard
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 05:11 AM

It is not only a question of the browser but also a question of the font you use (if the character is not in the font used, even the best browser has no chance).
I have set Arial as the default font and Courier New as the Fixed-Width font.
hth
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 08:11 AM

Now I am confused! Last night the squares were betas!

Here's a beta today...β


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 08:14 AM

Oops! I'm on different computers! (********red face******)

Thanks for the info Mudguard.


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 11:46 AM

Testing non graphic sigblock:

         /(   )\
\ \_/ / , /\ ,
/_ _\ /| || |\
| \> (_ ^ _) \____/
/`\|IIIII|/`\ _\/_
\ \_____/ / ()
/\ )=( /\ ()
/ `-.\=/.-' \ ()

Wincing_Devil
Joy of having 2 cats: Waking to a cat fight in your crotch at 3am!


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 11:55 AM

      /(   )\
\ \_/ / , /\ ,
/_ _\ /| || |\
| \> </ | |\_||_/|
(_ ^ _) \____/
/`\|IIIII|/`\ _\/_
\ \_____/ / ()
/\ )=( /\ ()
/ `-.\=/.-' \ ()

Wincing_Devil
Joy of having 2 cats: Waking to a cat fight in your crotch at 3am!


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Amos
Date: 18 Feb 00 - 12:05 PM

Testing special chars:

Á occurs in Word with Ctrl+' followed by SHIFT+A.


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 04:11 AM

α β γ δ ε ζ η θ ι κ λ μ ν &omicorn; π ρ σ τ υ ξ ψ ω
How many did I forget?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 04:12 AM

well, if I could spell omicron, it might help.
ο Ο


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 11:34 AM

Hi Joe,

I want to send you a cute picture of "Oh My Corn" with a graphic of an ear of corn in place of the word corn...but...I don't want to muck up this page with graphics, and I don't want to link to someone's page (like for instance, mine) like I think Wincing Devil did for his cute little devil graphic. I'll try to send you a personal note doing this. It would really come in handy for all those graphics I've tried to send in emails and just couldn't seem to get them to work for all the recipients. Let me know if it works.

Mary


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: JedMarum
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 09:19 AM

This is the tale my great grandfather, Martin Little told my father when he was a boy. Martin had begun a new life in America, away from the unrest and hard times - but he loved his native Ireland and had a great concern for its people. This is Martin's story;

Look Ahead Tommy

The land was rich in beauty, magic and song
But it was hard to raise a family, working someone else's land
So we kissed our Mom and sisters, our Dad he gave use fare
With me brothers Sean and Michael, I left them standin' there
So long ago

We worked a time in England, and we sent a bit back home
But Michael took to drinkin' and in two years he was gone
I moved on to Boston when Sean joined the Fusiliers
And I haven't seen the others for five and thirty years
to the day

Chorus:
Look ahead Tommy
This Boston life is kind
And you can build a better world
Then the one I left behind
Look ahead Tommy
And don't forget your name
Is a tribute to the land from which we came

In Galway and Kilkenny, where our friends and cousins many
Since nineteen hundred twenty, have been war torn by the day
In a land that's rife with troubles, we often share their struggles
In our hearts and in our prayers, your grandmother and me
Everyday

Go to Chorus

In Galway and Kilkenny, when the fightin' dies away
And peace returns to Ireland, so many miles away
Count your blessings in the new world, tell your children of their start
Oh and take me back to Ireland, if it's only in your heart
One day

Go to Chorus


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: thosp
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 07:16 PM

peace


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: MudGuard
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 08:55 AM

Hi thosp,
bgcolor is interpreted by most browsers only for table and body tag.
It is not interpreted for the font tag.
But you can use style sheets to get the background:
peace
The code I used for this effect is:
<font face=fantasy style="background-color:teal;" size=4>peace</font>
If you want to add a special color for the font, put it into the style as well, as in
<font face=fantasy style="background-color:teal;color:white;" size=4>peace</font>
peace
HTH,
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: thosp
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 07:34 PM

thanks MudGuard !!!


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: bill\sables
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 07:47 AM

Find me here blue thing


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Scotsbard
Date: 07 Mar 00 - 01:11 PM

just trying to figure out how which keystroke combination causes a soft carriage return at this particular site.

This line is sandwiched by two consecutive "Returns"

This line is followed by "Shift-Return" as is this one ... and this one gets two "Returns"

Apparently alt-return and ctl-return do nothing.

(two more returns)


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Scotsbard
Date: 07 Mar 00 - 01:18 PM

ok ... lets try cut and paste ... right there ... and there


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Scotsbard
Date: 07 Mar 00 - 07:12 PM

OK lets try this again ... "space-return" xxx and another time xxx then two returns xxx

there!


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: Scotsbard
Date: 07 Mar 00 - 07:18 PM

OK ... if anybody stops by who knows how get a single CR to work ... please leave me a note on the character mapping required

Right now if I put a single CR here **/ /** between the slashes ... nothing happens

If I put two CRs thusly **/

/** then I get double spaced lines

Thanx


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: MudGuard
Date: 08 Mar 00 - 01:38 AM

You need to put a html line break <br> to the end of each line.
HTH
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: GUEST,Jim Dixon
Date: 08 Mar 00 - 05:04 PM

Here's some info that might be intelligible to those who read Dutch (I don't) copied from http://www.oboss.nl/muziek/ReijtCoverwanneer.htm

Vic van de Reijt
De Nederlandstalige cover top-100
van Vic van de Reijt
Liedjes (de Nederlandse) gerangschikt op jaartal

74 Rudi Carrell met de Damrakkertjes Een muis in een molen in mooi Amsterdam (1964)
  Nederlandse tekst Rudi Carrell en Pierre Wijnnobel
  Ronnie Hilton A windmill in old Amsterdam (1964)
  Oorspronkelijke tekst/muziek Ted Dicks en Myles Rudge
cdr Ronnie Hilton The best of the EMI years (EMI 1989) (HDX1253)


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Subject: RE: HTML Pracise Feb00
From: JedMarum
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 08:30 AM

Irishman: "Nice dog you got there, Jimmy. Mind if I speak to him?"
Scotsman: "Ach, yer daft, my dog doesn't talk."
Irishman: "Hello to ya, Master dog and how's it going this fine day?"
Dog: "Goin' alright."

Scotsman: Look of shock!!

Irishman: "Is this Scotsman your owner?" pointing at Scotsman
Dog:: "Yep"
Irishman: "How does he treat you?"
Dog: "He treats me jus' fine. He walks me twice a day, feeds me great
food, And takes me to the river once a week to play."

Scotsman: Look of total disbelief

Irishman: "Mind if I talk to your horse?"
Scotsman: looking a bit tentative, "My horse doesn't talk."
Irishman: "Hello there horse, and how is it going for you today?"
Horse: "Couldn't be better!" exclaimed the horse joyfully.

Scotsman: Extreme look of shock!!!!

Irishman: "Is this your owner? "pointing at Scotsman
Horse: " 'tis"
Irishman: "And how does he treat you?"
Horse: "He treats me very well, thanks for asking. He rides me regularly,
brushes me down often, and keeps me in the barn to protect me from the
elements."

Scotsman: Total look of utter amazement

Irishman: "Mind if I talk to your sheep?"

Scotsman: "Now that sheep's a liar."


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