Help: Irish Group: Spailpin

Subject: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: GUEST,RAY
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 04:23 AM

I am seeking info on the group, Spailspin. I bought a discount CD that has various artists on it, but was titled: Riverdance. It turned out to be great (except for the Riverdance cuts?!) This group called Spailspin has the best version of "Arthur McBride" that I have ever heard and also introduced a new, old song to me called, Phenim's Little Boat, that is also good. Thanks.

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: MudGuard
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 05:02 AM

I have a recording called "Whiskey in the Jar from Ireland" which includes recordings of two groups, one is called The Dublin Ramblers, the other Spailpin (without the second 's' - is this a spelling error on your side?).
The Spailpin songs on this cd are:
Whiskey in the Jar,
Rising of the Moon
Scarce O'Tatties
Nightingale
White, Orange and Green
Fiddler's Green
Baidin Fheidhlimi
Beggarman's Song
Rambling Irishman
Port Lairge
Arthur McBride
The CD booklet does not give any other info on the group.
HTH,
MudGuard

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 05:28 AM

I have the same songs on this CD. I may have mis-spelled the Name...I don't have the CD with me. I really like the musical interludes on the cuts: Baidin Fheidhlimi and White, Orange and Green. I was wondering if these music "breaks" were something that the group created...OR were other airs that happen to fit in with these particular tunes? Would you be knowin' that?

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: GUEST,LEJ
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 11:11 AM

I have the same Whiskey in the Jar CD. I believe the instrumental departures are improvisations by the band and not part of any tradition in the playing of the tunes.

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: Rex
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 11:24 AM

To muddy things up further, I was at an Irish music festival in Cleveland and one of the groups playing there was Spailpins. Yep, I recall it being plural. So Ray had it right, he just had the letters mixed up.

Rex

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: GUEST,The Burren Ranger(Ireland)
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 01:22 PM

If there is anybody on the planet that has recorded a better versaion of 'Arthur McBride' than Paul Bradyon his 1996 Mulligan album with Andy Irvine...I would dearly love to hear it...what label does this group record for?

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: GUEST,RAY
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 07:01 PM

I did another search ...with the proper spelling...and found that spailpin means "wanderer" in gaelic. There is a song called, "An Spailpin Fanach" and an Irish trading company website also by this name, but I still could not find anything on the group. They were listed on a few other CDs which featured various artists, but none of their own. There was another mention of the word in an anouncement of a harvest fair in Dingle, Ireland. It said, ["the spailpins showed up with their spades looking for seasonal work"]. So at least we picked up a bit of trivia. Thanks, Ray

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: Áine
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 07:16 PM

Dear Ray,

The word 'spailpín' in Irish means a seasonal hired laborer or a migratory farm laborer. It can also be used derogatorily to mean 'a person of low degree'. The word 'fánach' in Irish means 'wandering' or 'vagrant'. The phrase 'An Spailpín Fánach' means 'The Migratory Laborer'.

-- Áine

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: MudGuard
Date: 09 Feb 00 - 02:10 AM

On the Whiskey in the Jar from Ireland CD it says "SPAILPIN" without any s at the end. If I don't forget this afternoon, I can give the record label.
MudGuard

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: GUEST,RAY
Date: 09 Feb 00 - 01:08 PM

The CD I have is on the Excelsior Label (Quebec) and is titled: Celtic Dance. On the cover it says: Featuring the hit sensation RIVERDANCE (in Large letters). However, out of the 21 cuts, only 4 are by the ceili band with Riverdance related tunes (thank goodness). The rest are by Spailpin. In addition to the above tunes listed by Mudguard, they do, 1. Three Young Ladies Drinking Whiskey before breakfast. (a medley) which is very good. 2. Morrison Merrily Kissed the Quaker. (Medley) 3. Little Fairy, Big Fairy. 4. Ramblin Irishman.

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: MudGuard
Date: 09 Feb 00 - 02:27 PM

As promised this morning, here is the label of the Whiskey in the Jar from Ireland CD. Laserlight Digital, Delta Music, Königsdorf, Germany
Ray, Ramblin' Irishman is on my CD as well, I just mixed up the spelling (Rambling instead of Ramblin').
MudGuard

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: Kilshannig
Date: 10 Feb 00 - 02:03 PM

could it be SAILPIN?if yes,try: http://www.ubl.com/links.asp?mode=websites&artistid=154307&p_id=P+++202975http://www.ubl.com/links.asp?mode=websites&artistid=154307&p_id=P+++202975

Rob

Subject: RE: Help: IRISH GROUP: SPAILSPIN
From: GUEST,Ashley
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 01:38 AM

Hello out there
I too am loking for the group sailspin or sailpin as it is spelled on the c-d Whiskey in the jar. I have looked and have run out of leads.! I like the fellows voice. it is honest and down to earth.
I would thank anyone who could help me find a lable or list of there music..    thanks          Ashley

Subject: RE: Help: Irish Group: Spailpin
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jan 12 - 05:37 PM

To further cloud this matter I have a box set entitled "The Spirit Of Ireland....The Ultimate Irish Box Set"

There are 3 cd's in the set:

1) Irish Ceili
2) The Complete Irish Dancing Set
3) Irish Pub Folk Sing-A-Long

Although there are song titles for each track, no artists appear whatsoever with the exception of album 1 "Irish Ceili"

In addition long searches yielded no results at all for this 1999 box set from Navarre Corperation & Point Entertainment

All these tracks are noted to be by "The Irish Ceili Band" except "Rising Of The Moon" by Paddy O'Connor & Friends", however if using the Shazam feature on my phone to identify each track it lists "The Irish Landscape Band"......looking this band up I find the exact album only called "Greatest Irish Ceili Music".

This infers at some point someone thought this album was a greatest hits compilation by "Irish Ceili" when no such band exists. It was simply the name of the compilation. One persons mistake has caused many users meta tagging their libraries to have false information.

The other two albums in this "box set" add to the confusion. As previously mentioned, the remaining albums offer no insight at all (a good thing since the first attempt was garbage.

Using Shazam again it identifies many tracks as by either the "McSherry Ceili Band" or by Rince. (ps this is not edorsing Shazam.....many mistakes include the one I'm about to mention are found within this application as well)

Several irish dance compilations involving these songs exists, many titled "Rince" which I believe is Gaelic for dance, so again no band named "Rince" exists although allmusic.com / cduniverse / amazon / shazam all claim other wise. They are all wrong, but not their mistake. I'll elaborate in moments.

The final cd seems to be by Barnbrack. All tracks listed match a cd by this band, but missing the second half of the album.

I don't believe it's legal anywhere in the world to be recreating original albums & not giving proper credit for publishers / record labels / song writers / composers / band members / ect.

There are a plethora of organizations world wide whose resposibilities include paying out the former rights holders when compilations are recreated & first and foremost, approval must first be granted from the original rights holder.

When albums like the one in my hand appear it is most obvious that someone is not following proper channels & is guilty of copyright infringement. In addition to posting queries here I'd suggest finding our what copyright control bodies exist in your country and call their attention to it.

In this case, not only is the law being broken, but has caused a nasty trail of misinformation causing a full day of work to be lost at my office while looking into this matter for what was a single song request by a client at 9am this morning for "When You & I Were Young Maggie" by Irish Ceili (which it is not...oddly i actually had this boxset in our vault, allowing me to at least a starting place for research)). It's now 4:30pm & the information brought up here remains still speculative at best.

The company that compiled this cd is Point Entertainment Ltd a division of Navarre. Neither company remain in the music business & whatever catalogues they "owned" (which is likely true.....they simply didn't report things properly thus denying all other rights holders all moneys owed to them not just for the cd, but causing radio stations, background music providers, ect. to be unable to source these rights holders if using this compilation as a source. The actual information (likely online somewhere) has be lost in a "sea of misinformation" Sometimes the net is a "tangled web"

Subject: RE: Help: Irish Group: Spailpin
From: GUEST,Joan
Date: 07 Apr 13 - 11:33 AM

I heard this group outside our hotel in Killarney last year, sang a song about a fellow writing a letter to his girlfriend, he was in prison and about to die. I loved the song but cannot remember the title, had also heard it in Dublin. Can you help with this?

Subject: RE: Help: Irish Group: Spailpin
From: MartinRyan
Date: 07 Apr 13 - 11:55 AM

Probably THIS ONE - though there are other possibles.

Regards

Subject: RE: Help: Irish Group: Spailpin
From: Spailpin
Date: 07 Apr 13 - 08:57 PM

Hi there , yes the song was grace , and yes we are still alive and kicking ... Been around a long time , still tour in America ... Have a residency in the grand hotel in Killarney every Saturday night ... Got some you tube footage on the site of spailpin willie .... Cheers willie !

Subject: RE: Help: Irish Group: Spailpin
From: GUEST,liz
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 07:32 PM

hi,where can i buy you singing rose of saigon? love it! liz

Subject: RE: Help: Irish Group: Spailpin
From: Spailpin
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 03:14 AM

Hi Liz , mail me your address to [e-mail]      And I will post one to you , no problem ! Willie