Subject: Songs about farm folk From: pastorpest Date: 09 Feb 00 - 06:44 PM I am involved with the "Rural Life Committee" of a church denomination, United Church of Canada, that is primarily urban. Getting people to hear, let alone understand what is being lost as farm families disappear is never easy. People do not "feel" statistics about farm economics. With a good song you can think a feeling and feel a thought (I read that in Pete Seeger stuff and I am not sure he takes credit for it). We are looking for songs about farm folk and farm life that express both their joys and sorrows. For me Stan Rogers "Field Behind the Plow", Connie Kaldor's "Harsh and Unforgiving" and Ron Hynes "Sonny's Dream" are good examples. Please add to the list and if you can point me to where to find lyrics and music all the better. In advance, thanks!
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Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 09 Feb 00 - 07:00 PM Stan Rogers "Lies" Lots of stuff from Tamarack, especially the 'Fields Of Rock and Snow album... Keelaghan has a few prairie tunes... Jethro Tull has all kinda of rural stuff, especially "Farm On The Freeway" on the album Crest Of A Knave... Just off the top of my head... |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: wysiwyg Date: 09 Feb 00 - 07:06 PM On a Priscilla Herdman tape there's one that's quite rural, about seasons changing and lovers/spouses, I'll try to dig it up. There's a good rural ministries web site. If I can did it out of my bookmarks I'll post it to you. My husband is an Episcopal priest and fiddle/banjo/mandolin player. We are currently serving in rural land too. He hasn't visited Mudcat much but can be e-mailed at our home e-mail; if you want that, pls see me on the Personal Page. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: wysiwyg Date: 09 Feb 00 - 07:08 PM Pastorpest-- go to: http://www.seorf.ohiou.edu/~xx042/r_ctr/r_ctr.html
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Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Lanfranc Date: 09 Feb 00 - 07:08 PM From the English Tradition, how about "The Farmer's Boy"?, "Scarborough Fair" (tell him to plough me ... etc). I'll try to come up with others. I attend several sing-arounds out in rural parts of eastern England, and there are several "old boys" who turn up and sing obscure songs with a farming theme, some from the Music Hall ("Jollity Farm") and others from the point of view of the farm labourer ("Did you ever see a farmer on a Bike") I'll trace the thread and set some pointers when I get time.
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Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: GUEST,Eric Johnson Date: 09 Feb 00 - 07:13 PM I recommend some of the old country material from the '20s and '30s that was recorded on 78 rpms. Bands like Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers and the North Carolina Ramblers and Uncle Dave Macon. Here's a must: Fiddlin' John Carson playing "The Farmer is the Man Who Feeds Them All." The County and Rounder record labels include compilations of these artists. For something more recent, try the Clinch Mountain Boys' "The Fields Have Turned Brown." |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Dan Evergreen Date: 09 Feb 00 - 07:22 PM "Homestead on the Farm" as sung by Flatt and Scruggs and probably others, is simple and lovely in sort of a slow-bluegrass style. Somebody gave the lyrics on a thread a year or so ago. It's something you can use. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Stewie Date: 09 Feb 00 - 07:33 PM For the early stuff, get hold of 'Hard Times Come Again No More: Early American Rural Songs of Hard Times and Hardships Vols 1 and 2' Yazoo 2036 and 2037. These are compilations of songs from black and white artists of the 1920s and 1930s and include classics such as the Bentley Boys' 'Down on Penny's Farm', Blind Alfred Reed's 'How Can a Poor Man Stand Such Times and Live', Allen Bros 'Price of Cotton Blues', Barbecue Bob's 'Bad Time Blues' etc. Cheers, Stewie. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: John in Brisbane Date: 09 Feb 00 - 07:42 PM Australia has a rich culture of songs and poems about life and hardship in the bush. The one that springs immediately to mind is 'Broken Down Squatter'. The chorus reads in part "When the big-wigs are brought to the Bankruptcy Court, what chance for a squatter like me?" The lyrics are in the DT. I know that I posted the tune some time ago. Please let me know if you would like a refresh. Regards, John |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Susan of DT Date: 09 Feb 00 - 07:43 PM a search for @farmer in the Digital Tradition yields 77 songs. Also look for [Copper family] since many of their songs are about farming communities and rural pursuits. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: John in Brisbane Date: 09 Feb 00 - 07:57 PM Like Susan, I searched using @poverty, which among others yielded Brother Can You Spare A Dime (I posted the tune some time back) and the rather apt Eleven Cent Cotton and Forty Cent Meat. Regards, John |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Willie-O Date: 09 Feb 00 - 08:37 PM Well, what do you want to do with these songs? My neighbour Gary Glover is a Canadian farmer/songwriter. His stuff is poetic and...well, different, and frequently a bit on the dark side (life and death in the barnyard, ya know.) He's currently trying to get a demo tape made of some of his material with the intention of marketing some songs to other people. If you're interested, send me a personal message. Speaking of Canadian farmer/songwriters with a dark twisted streak, it's odd that no one has mentioned Fred Eaglesmith. A very intense voice from rural Ontario. Willie-O |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Orwill Date: 09 Feb 00 - 08:59 PM Dear Pastorpest: What you learned from Pete Seeger was said by Yip Harburg ("Over the Rainbow"). Here's the way I remember it. Words make you think thoughts. Music makes you feel feelings. A song makes you feel a thought. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Susan A-R Date: 09 Feb 00 - 09:22 PM John McCutcheon does a few (The Farmer Is the Woman, This Time of Year) There's also a local Vermont poet named Mac Parker who does wonderful stuff about rural culture. He has some recordings out. I am not sure if they are self-produced, but I'll check into them. It's mainly poetry, but his delivery and his poems are great. David Budbill also does some great stuff. His play Judevine gives as good a sense of rural Vermont as anything I have ever seen. I know that Bear Pond books Main St. Montpelier VT. carries his stuff. They probably carry Mac Parker's as well. Also, I put this one together a few years ago, Yet another reason to get a tape recorder going. I grew up where the maples stood, Back in the days of the dusty roads I knew my neighbors and life was good Up and down the valley The work was hard and the seasons passed We split the wood and we hayed the high grass And I never dreamed it wouldn't last Up and down the valley I'd walk home past the old Farr farm Back in the . . . And the fields were green and the sun was warm Up and down the . . . But old Mr. Farr was a gettin' on His taxes were high and his kids were gone Now there's pre-fab homes and well kept lawns Up and down . . . I've grown and married and made my home None too far from the dusty roads And there still are fields where the hay is mown Up and down the valley But the pavement covers more and more There are fewer farms than there were before And an ache and a loss I can't ignore Up and down the valley. Mr. Farr ran a ski tow on his hillside pasture when I was small, and I used to buy chicken feed from him when I ran out (when I hadn't planned ahead for the limited feed store schedule) Now his big meadow has become a development named Hargrace (for Harold and Grace Farr) Drive. We've lost a farm, a farmer, a man who shared his land with his community, and a gorgeous piece of open land, and he's just one among many. Susan Gone the days of the dusty roads |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: raredance Date: 09 Feb 00 - 09:38 PM Chuck Suchy a farmer and songwriter from near Mandan, North Dakota has several albums that explore the trials, hard work, sadness, humor and love to be found in contemporary rural life. When North Dakota celebrated its centennial as a state in 1989, Chuck Suchy was named the official state troubador. You can't go wrong with any of his material. rich r |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: sophocleese Date: 09 Feb 00 - 11:29 PM Well Tamarack and Fred Eaglesmith have already been mentioned. A young group called Krazy House have a song called Salt of My Earth. And there are others on the tip of my brain, arrgh, I'll see what I can dig up. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Peg Date: 10 Feb 00 - 10:00 AM well, there are plenty of pastoral songs about milkmaids but these are not specifically abotu farming per se... I am thinking of (not necessarily written by the artist mentioned): Pastures of Plenty (recently done by Solas) Handful of Earth (Dick Gaughan) Heavy Horses (Jethro Tull) The Digger's Song (also Solas) a great song about plow horses that I will try to get the name of: beautiful lyrics; only line I remember is "the horse's day is done"; I heard it on A Celtic Sojourn a couple times so I will email Brian O... peg |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: GUEST,Arkie Date: 10 Feb 00 - 10:46 AM On the lighter side, Guy Clark has a wonderful song about "Homegrown Tomatoes" and David Mallett has several songs which might be of interest, one about firewood and another about growing a garden, can't think of the title at the moment. The Copper Family has already been mentioned and I believe they recorded an album for Folk Legacy which might still be available as a custom cassette. Another source of songs and poems would be through Cowboy Gatherings that take place quite frequently. Poets such as Bruce Kiskaddon have written some fine poems about life in the west. One of my favorites is The Bronco Twister's Prayer which describes a rural funeral and a eulogy by a tough cowboy. A search for cowboy gatherings on the internet would turn up some interesting leads. I was told that a similar thing, something like farm gatherings, had been started in the east, but I have no actual knowledge of such events. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Allan C. Date: 10 Feb 00 - 11:48 AM Just for fun, open your RealPlayer and paste the following into the LOCATION box: http://memory.loc.gov/afc/afcss39/264/2647b2.ram |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Rex Date: 10 Feb 00 - 12:41 PM I may have missed it in the threads but David Mallett's "Gardening" gets the idea across. I believe it's on his "Almanac" album if I could only find it in the clutter. Rex |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: jeffp Date: 10 Feb 00 - 01:12 PM There's also The Anti-Garden Song, to the tune of Dave Mallet's Garden Song, which gives the dark side of gardening. Both are in Rise Up Singing. I can't remember all the words to the Anti-GS, but here is the chorus: Slug by slug, weed by weed; |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Rex Date: 10 Feb 00 - 01:33 PM Whoops! I was mixed up. Yep, David Mallett does "The Garden Song". But that's not the one I was thinking of. I was thinking of "Gardening" by Dillon Bustin on _his_ "Almanac" album. Now that I got that straight I'll bet I can find it too. Rex |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Nogs Date: 10 Feb 00 - 02:33 PM John Gorka: "Houses in the fields", about the suburbanization of the countryside . . . He also has a whimsical song about milkcows in the wintertime (Cows in the moo-yard are making their plans/for the long winter nights and the cold winter hands) |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: MMario Date: 10 Feb 00 - 02:57 PM Winter Cows is at this link:http://www.gregorysteele.com/music/winter_cows.txt |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Susanne (skw) Date: 10 Feb 00 - 06:13 PM 'The Farm Auction', written by Enoch Kent, a Scotsman now living in Canada I believe. It doesn't seem to be in the DT. - Susanne |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: GUEST,margaret Date: 10 Feb 00 - 08:17 PM Nanci Griffith's "Trouble in the Fields" is a good one, reflecting hopefulness despite the difficult economics and the alienation from / lack of understanding by urban folks ("our children live in the city and they rest upon our shoulders / they never want this rain to fall or the weather to get colder"). Don't know what album it was originally on but believe it's on the live album "One Fair Summer's Evening." Three thumbs up too for Nogs' suggestion of "Houses in the Field," a truly beautiful, sad song that captures an important dimension of our times. Might be a good one for your city folk to wrap around since it's sung not from the perspective of the farmer but of an appreciative outsider. . . Margaret |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: GUEST,Sian in Wales Date: 11 Feb 00 - 07:53 AM Speaking as an ex-United Church member (ex only 'cause I live in Wales now) I'd be really interested in hearing more about this. On the humour side: Grandma's Feather Bed (John Denver) is rollicking. The serious ones that come to mind are actually trying to make other points (political) but perhaps it's all in the way you listen. Unfortunately, although they're Irish, I only know them in Welsh. I think one is ... um...Four Fields? The other one won't make any sense if I just translate the title. The chorus roughly translates: It's quiet now in Esgair Llyn (name of farm) where once I learned to sing the world's song ... Too vague? Anyone know the original? Sian |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Dan Calder Date: 11 Feb 00 - 08:40 AM Garnet Rogers has two wonderful tunes that fit this category (at least two). The first is on his self-titled album and is called "Break The Law". Another is from his album titled At A High Window, and is called "Last of the Working Stetsons". Garnet's site is http://www.garnetrogers.com/ Enjoy, Dan |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 11 Feb 00 - 10:16 AM The Farmer [is the Man That] Feeds Us All. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Willie-O Date: 11 Feb 00 - 10:22 AM "Break the Law" was written by Doug McArthur, another Canadian songwriter. (At that point in Garnet's career he wasn't performing his own songs yet.) Someone mentioned workhorses--Garnet also sang Archie Fisher's song "Denbrae" [=The Last Clydesdales?], a lovely and moving Scottish tribute: They were two bonnie blacks with white faces and feet
Another obvious genuine Canuck rancher/singer is of course Ian Tyson. Pick up his album "18 Inches of Rain", the title song is a good kind of western swing complaint about life on a ranch where "Me and this old outfit, have both seen better days." "Not a broke horse on the place,
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Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: GUEST,Chris H. Date: 11 Feb 00 - 05:15 PM Steve Earle's "And The Rain Came Down" is another. Chris |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE FARM AUCTION (Enoch Kent) ^^ From: Susanne (skw) Date: 11 Feb 00 - 07:01 PM THE FARM AUCTION (Enoch Kent)
Chorus:
Rusting tractor on the hill, fence-post with a printed bill
Bone and silver napkin rings, elastic bands round spoons and things
Firelight and a favourite song, laughter that rings among
A jar of nails, a box of tacks, six dining chairs with wicker backs ^^ |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Feb 00 - 07:54 PM Video on PBS: The Farmer's Wife on last summer real life told over several installments highly recommend |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: GUEST,James Bridgland Date: 11 Feb 00 - 10:07 PM Can't believe that "None of the Above" has mentioned Murray McLauchlin's "Farmer's Song" a great hit in Canada (# 5 in '76 ?) with pretty basic sentiments married to a workable tune. "Straw hat and old dirty hanky ---- & face like a shoe thanks for the meal, & the times that were real from a kid from the city to you" Was that what you were after? jpb
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Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Susan A-R Date: 11 Feb 00 - 10:12 PM Someone also wrote a song "I am a farmer, not a farmer's wife" [Farmer?]. I believe it was about the law that meant that a farmer's wife had to pay inheritance taxes on the farm, since it was her husband's business. This tax burden often caused (still causes) women to have to sell the land, even though they have worked it side by side with their husbands and it has been a partnership. Believe it's by a Florida songwriter. Also Tom Paxton's Who will Feed the People on his Paxton Reports Album is a good one. Isn't Dougie MacLean's song Rescue Me about a farmer having to use more pesticides to keep up with production, knowing that he's doing in the land etc. It seems to me that he has written a number of songs about vanishing rural life. Song of the Scythe is also a lovely one about passing along skills and knacks. Susan A-R |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Barbara Date: 12 Feb 00 - 02:45 AM The song about the draft horses, Peg, is the Battlefield Band's Last Trip Home, and it should be here in the forum. We had a discussion of it and several of us posted lyrics. Who Will Feed the People (Tom Paxton, I think) Husbandman and the Servingman Fall Is Here (Charlie Maguire) Waiting for the Lark (Bill Caddick) Fashioned in the Clay (Elmer Beale)
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Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Liz the Squeak Date: 12 Feb 00 - 02:54 AM If you want to get really political, the Tolpuddle Martyr songs in the DT should get a few eyebrows going, they usually do.... All 6 men were farm workers who were starving on a farm, because their wages were cut to the bone, and a further cut was immenent, when they formed the first ever Trade Union, to fight for enough to feed their families. Would you like to eat nothing but porrige (Oatmeal), bread and potatoes every meal, every day, every week? LTS |
Subject: Lyr Add: COUNTRY MUSIC (Marie-Lynn Hammond) From: GUEST,Val Date: 12 Feb 00 - 10:23 AM Hi, Here's a song about farm folk and small-towners in the city. The vinyl must be long out of print but I have a vague notion that I've seen the music somewhere...ah, but now how long ago might that have been? It's thoroughly singable and easy to harmonize, and the chords are basic. If you can't find it, post a snail mail contact and I can jot out the tune and chords (for the tune, lemme know if it's better in regular notation or solfege). By the way, it sounds like you have a dream job. Must be great, having to research music. *sigh* Here are the lyrics: COUNTRY MUSIC (Marie-Lynn Hammond) recorded by Stringband on "Canadian Sunset" an age ago. 1. Well, you can play that old-time music, Yes, you can sing those country songs, And all the children of the cities, They have learned to play along. From a downtown window, busy corner, Skies are hidden and there ain't no trees. But you can hear that music playin' That sweet, sad fiddle playing' And it floats through the dusty air like a country breeze. 2, Well they leave the farms and they leave the small towns 'Cause they've heard that the cities pay. But at night they go from the yards and the factories To join the crowds down Main Street way. In smoky bar-rooms at crowded tables, They down their beer and they talk about home. They've come to hear that music playin' That sweet, sad fiddle sayin' Things that you never hear till you're on your own. 3. So play for them some down-home music. Yes sing for them those country songs, And all your children lost in the cities They can't help but sing along! Sing of prairie summers, Ottawa River, And Sunday mornin's in a small Quebec town. Just try and leave it all behind you, Wherever you go it'll find you. That sweet, sad country music: Like a lover or friend or brother... ...it's gonna follow you down. -30- Have you plans to put together a songbook? singing&dancing -val. ^^ Line Breaks <br> added. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: canoer Date: 12 Feb 00 - 11:41 AM I like Stan Rogers' "Night Guard" from his "Home in Halifax" CD. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: canoer Date: 12 Feb 00 - 12:22 PM Now that you have enough to choke a horse; one more: On a Dylan tape called "The Times They Are A-Changin'" is "The Ballad of Hollis Brown." It's very dark-side; but what happens to a small farmer as all, repeat all, of his options disappear? Cited in memory of my dad: small Wisconsin gone-broke farmer. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Arkie Date: 12 Feb 00 - 01:28 PM The song Grandma's Feather Bed, was mentioned earlier in this thread and is a great song which is still being played in Ireland where a radio station ran a contest for things that were done on Grandma's Feather bed. I know what you're thinking, but according to my source, sexual exploits were not allowed. The writer of the song is Jim Connor. John Denver, of course, had the most popular recording of the tune. Jim also recorded the song for RCA and toured with John Denver following the release of Denver's version. There is a site on the internet posting the words to the song and mistakenly lists Denver as the composer. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Peg Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:30 AM Thanks, Barbara, for the info on Last Trip Home, a beautiful song, I will look for that thread. Just thought of another, farm animal, if not farm, related: Prom Night in Pig Town. John Gorka has sung it, as has Geoff Bartley. I do not know who wrote it. It's a great song! peg |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:11 PM My Oklahome Home Blowed Away"--by whom? I have it on a Pete Seeger CD, but someone else--man and woman team, as I recall--wrote it. Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: GUEST,Nancy-Jean Date: 14 Feb 00 - 01:33 PM Look on Margaret MacArthur's website to find an entire recording of farm songs. http://homepages.infoseek.com~margmacarthur/macarthur.html |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Marymac90 Date: 14 Feb 00 - 02:47 PM A country-related theme is canning, and Greg Brown has one on this-I think it's called "My Grandma Puts it all in Jars" [Canned Goods]. Don't forget Hal An Tow, done by the Watersons- I like to rise when the sun she rises early in the morning I like to hear them small birds sing merrily upon the lalem(sp?) And hurrah for the life of a country boy, and to ramble in the new-mown hay! Chorus: Hal an tow! Jolly rumelow! We were up long before the day To welcome in the summer, to welcome in the May-o! For summer is a-comin' in, and winter's gone away-o! In the spring we sow, and at the harvest mow And that's how the seasons round they go But of all the times, I like the best for to ramble in the new-mown hay! Chorus Mary McCaffrey ^^^ Line Breaks <br> added. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Sandy Paton Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:56 PM You might want to take a look at the "Stay on the Farm" thread that has come up since this one was started. there's one song posted there. Sandy |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: folk1234 Date: 15 Feb 00 - 10:18 AM Some of my favorites with a farm/rural flavor are: "Early" about a farming community in Iowa, "Water From Another Time" sung by John McClutchen, and "Who Will Watch The Home Place". There is also a wonderful musical play, "Plain Hearts", by Eric Peltoniemi, et al., which featured the song, "Tree of Life". It is about the rigorous life of the pioneer women in the Great Plains. I have more details at home. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: pastorpest Date: 15 Feb 00 - 09:34 PM I have been asked by GUEST Val if I and the rural life group were thinking of putting together a song book. That is sure one possibility but we have to deal with all the copyright laws! We want to use songs to communicate the importance of the shrinking farm community to our increasingly urbanized society. Our mandate includes justice and quality of life issues for farm and rural communities. I am overwhelmed and grateful for the responses! Thank you all! I will ask everyone on the committee which meets in two days to climb aboard the net and look up the Mudcat. I may even load up my printer and run off this whole thread and plunk it down in the meeting. |
Subject: Lyr Add: LOSING OF THE FARM From: Mary G Date: 15 Feb 00 - 09:58 PM Here's my farm song...if you should want it for your farm songbook don't worry about a copyright.. Losing of the Farm... The rising costs the interest rates our second year of drought We always said no matter what we'd somehow tough it out Every year that's passed has brought us deeper into debt But till the letter came we thought we weren't defeated yet So soon we'll disassemble the work of all these years Tomorrow either Fred or I will call the auctioneers The pens the barns the silos the fancy milking stall Two hundred fertile acres oh dear God we've lost it all Maybe Fred will hire out to a farmer not yet broke But mucking someone else's cows will make that proud man choke I'll get a job in town the kids are old enough to leave There's too much work that must be done too little time to grieve Perhaps it isn't right to get attached to mud and dirt and no one but his wife can know how much a man can hurt But tonight a million farmers in a million loving arms Are seeking consolation for the losing of their farms Oh you who live in cities and your lives are a success You haven't any notion how this country's in a mess The song that I am singing should cause you such alarm The song we'll all be singing soon is the losing of the farm. HTML line breaks added. -JoeClone 13-Mar-01. |
Subject: RE: Help: Songs about farm folk From: Arkie Date: 16 Feb 00 - 12:30 AM Australian singer John Williamson has a song, Send Down the Rain, on his True Blue recording that is a striking reminder of how dependent farmers are upon nature. Also there is The Conversation with a Mule presenting some insight into farm work with a little humor to boot. Being a farm boy, now many years removed, I've enjoyed this thread. |
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