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req/ADD: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine

PeteFletcher 12 Feb 00 - 05:53 AM
wysiwyg 12 Feb 00 - 07:58 AM
Boarding Party (KC) 12 Feb 00 - 08:10 AM
wysiwyg 12 Feb 00 - 08:22 AM
Barry Finn 12 Feb 00 - 09:26 AM
Boarding Party (KC) 12 Feb 00 - 10:11 AM
PeteFletcher 12 Feb 00 - 02:00 PM
di 12 Feb 00 - 04:08 PM
Barry Finn 12 Feb 00 - 06:00 PM
Boarding Party (KC) 13 Feb 00 - 10:07 AM
di 13 Feb 00 - 01:08 PM
MMario 13 Feb 00 - 01:19 PM
GUEST,BRYN /bryn@hughes3019.fslife.co.uk 10 Aug 03 - 01:33 PM
Padre 10 Aug 03 - 03:04 PM
GUEST 12 Aug 03 - 08:35 AM
Barry Finn 21 Feb 06 - 01:56 AM
Charley Noble 21 Feb 06 - 10:37 AM
Nancy King 21 Feb 06 - 10:42 AM
SINSULL 21 Feb 06 - 10:43 AM
PoppaGator 21 Feb 06 - 02:44 PM
GUEST,Maureen 15 Sep 08 - 02:04 AM
Tradsinger 15 Sep 08 - 02:08 PM
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Subject: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: PeteFletcher
Date: 12 Feb 00 - 05:53 AM

Can anyone help with this song? I've been asked to get them to be sung at a funeral and though I'm familiar with the song I don't know all the lyrics.

Chorus goes, Goodbye old ship of mine, No more you'll cross the line, Now your days are through, sailing on the blue, Goodbye old ship of mine.

Cheers,

Pete Fletcher


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Feb 00 - 07:58 AM

Would the person who requested the song have any more info about it, or did the deceased perhaps have a recording of it that you could lay your hands on?


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Subject: Lyr Add: GOODBYE, OLD SHIP OF MINE
From: Boarding Party (KC)
Date: 12 Feb 00 - 08:10 AM

This is a wonderfully schmaltzy song comes complete with an easy chorus. I can't recall the name of the gal from Baltimore I first heard sing it but I lifted within the hour. The Boarding Party adopted it and passed it around between Tom McHenry and myself. We later found the sheet music publish, I believe, in London.

Fair winds to the departed spirits, KC

GOODBYE, OLD SHIP OF MINE
(Rodd Arden and Dominic Pelosi, 1935)

One day by the docks I was straying.
By the quayside I happened to be,
When I overheard someone saying
To an old ship just in from the sea:

CHORUS:
Goodbye, old ship of mine.
No more you'll cross the line.
Well, your days are through sailing on the blue.
Goodbye, old ship of mine.

Well that quayside I'll always remember,
And those words that I happened to hear.
They came from a voice soft and tender,
And in each word was a tear.

Well, your logbook I'll always remember
In memory of you, Mary Ann.
I'd give the whole world to save you,
But I'm just a poor sailing man.

When they break you up at dawn,
In the yard where you were born,
Oh, they'll break a part of a poor sailor's heart.
Goodbye, old ship of mine.

So goodbye, old ship of mine,
For the sake of Auld Lang Syne.
Your name will live on 'til the day you're gone.
Goodbye, old ship of mine.

English music hall song from the early 30's when they were breaking up almost the entire merchant fleet at the height of the great depression.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOYmu41h3bE


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Feb 00 - 08:22 AM

Chords?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Barry Finn
Date: 12 Feb 00 - 09:26 AM

Hi KC, nice to know you're out there & about & peeking in. I got pretty much the same version (thouh not near as full) from an old Cape Horner, George Herbet, back in the late 70's when I was living out on the Lahinna Roadstead on Maui. The few differences I have are:

"Your log book I will keep as a token
In the memory of you going on"

"Your name will live on, till my days are done"

KC thanks for jumping in here. I've had this for over 30 years & never met anyone who knew it & it's taken till now that some of the blanks will get filled in. If you know any more about the woman you lifted it from, specially if she's a blonde sailor named Diane, would you let me know. I have George singing it on tape (very rough, a big bash in the hold of the Carthaginnian), along with some other gems ( among them, English versions of the 'Albertina' & the 'Good Ol Brig') if you're gonna be at Mystic this year I'll bring it along if you want. Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Boarding Party (KC)
Date: 12 Feb 00 - 10:11 AM

Barry,

A few of the old brain cells fired - the woman's name was Paris Kearn [sp?] and she claims to have learned it from a Brit who was wandering around the DC area some years ago. Paris did produce a tape of sea related songs and, or my money, this was her best. BP used her tune rather than the one on the sheet music although it changed (as these things do) depending on who was doing it and what they had eaten for lunch.

I'd love to learn more about the song's setting in England.

Its a long haul from New Orleans to Mystic but we remain hopeful.

Regards, KC


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: PeteFletcher
Date: 12 Feb 00 - 02:00 PM

Thanks everone,

I've passed the lyrics on and they were much appreciated.

Cheers,

Pete


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: di
Date: 12 Feb 00 - 04:08 PM

I wonder if KC of the Boarding Party, who so kindly provided the words of Old Ship of Mine, could somehow provide the tune to the verses. (Incidentally I am the original person seeking this song). Everybody concerned is very familiar with the chorus but not with the verses. Just a list of notes would do and I could transcribe and send to the folk back in UK who need it. I would be most grateful.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Barry Finn
Date: 12 Feb 00 - 06:00 PM

I have the tune but don't know if it's the same as KC's. Sorry to say I can't read or write music & understand the ways of the computer even less but if you want you can send a personnal message to me & I'll send along my tel. # & you can call me & I'll play it or sing it over the phone for you. Good Luck, Barry


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Subject: Tune Add: GOODBYE, OLD SHIP OF MINE
From: Boarding Party (KC)
Date: 13 Feb 00 - 10:07 AM

Di

One day by the docks I was straying
C|EFG|DEF|E2C|2C
By the quay-side I happened to be
G|CCC|BBA|2G
When I overheard someone saying
G|EFG|DEF|E2C
To an old ship just in from the sea
|DDD|DEC|2D

Here's a very crude quarter note waltz timey, pseudo abc imitation of the verse. Its hard to be notationally challenged! The big thing to remember is that the verse ends on the dominant 7th (D note). I've got it in a midi format but am challenged on how to get it into miditext and inserted in this here message

What follows is my best whack. Let me know if any of this makes sense

KC

MIDI file: oldship.mid

Timebase: 480

TimeSig: 3/4 24 8
Tempo: 096 (625000 microsec/crotchet)
Name: lead
Start
0960 1 60 080 0240 0 60 064 0000 1 62 080 0240 0 62 064 0000 1 64 080 0480 0 64 064 0000 1 65 080 0480 0 65 064 0000 1 67 080 0480 0 67 064 0000 1 62 080 0480 0 62 064 0000 1 64 080 0480 0 64 064 0000 1 65 080 0480 0 65 064 0000 1 64 080 0480 0 64 064 0000 1 60 080 1920 0 60 064 0000 1 67 080 0240 0 67 064 0000 1 67 080 0240 0 67 064 0000 1 72 080 0480 0 72 064 0000 1 72 080 0480 0 72 064 0000 1 72 080 0480 0 72 064 0000 1 71 080 0480 0 71 064 0000 1 71 080 0480 0 71 064 0000 1 69 080 0480 0 69 064 0000 1 67 080 2400 0 67 064 0000 1 67 080 0240 0 67 064 0000 1 65 080 0240 0 65 064 0000 1 64 080 0480 0 64 064 0000 1 65 080 0480 0 65 064 0000 1 67 080 0480 0 67 064 0000 1 62 080 0480 0 62 064 0000 1 64 080 0480 0 64 064 0000 1 65 080 0480 0 65 064 0000 1 64 080 0480 0 64 064 0000 1 60 080 1728 0 60 064 0192 1 60 080 0480 0 60 064 0000 1 62 080 0480 0 62 064 0000 1 62 080 0480 0 62 064 0000 1 62 080 0480 0 62 064 0000 1 62 080 0480 0 62 064 0000 1 64 080 0480 0 64 064 0000 1 60 080 0480 0 60 064 0000 1 62 080 1440 0 62 064 0000 1 62 080 0960 0 62 064 0000 1 60 080 0240 0 60 064 0000 1 62 080 0240 0 62 064 0000 1 64 080 0960 0 64 064 0000 1 65 080 0240 0 65 064 0000 1 67 080 0240 0 67 064 0000 1 62 080 0960 0 62 064 0000 1 60 080 0480 0 60 064 0000 1 60 080 1440 0 60 064 0000 1 60 080 0960 0 60 064 0000 1 69 080 0240 0 69 064 0000 1 71 080 0240 0 71 064 0000 1 72 080 0960 0 72 064 0000 1 72 080 0480 0 72 064 0000 1 71 080 0960 0 71 064 0000 1 69 080 0480 0 69 064 0000 1 67 080 2400 0 67 064 0000 1 69 080 0240 0 69 064 0000 1 71 080 0240 0 71 064 0000 1 72 080 0960 0 72 064 0000 1 72 080 0480 0 72 064 0000 1 71 080 0960 0 71 064 0000 1 69 080 0480 0 69 064 0000 1 67 080 0960 0 67 064 0000 1 60 080 0480 0 60 064 0000 1 67 080 0960 0 67 064 0000 1 65 080 0480 0 65 064 0000 1 64 080 0960 0 64 064 0000 1 65 080 0240 0 65 064 0000 1 64 080 0240 0 64 064 0000 1 62 080 0960 0 62 064 0000 1 60 080 0480 0 60 064 0000 1 60 080 2880 0 60 064
End


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: di
Date: 13 Feb 00 - 01:08 PM

Thank you thank you. That's great. I know nothing about midi files and their conversion but the notes are sufficient. Cheers!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: MMario
Date: 13 Feb 00 - 01:19 PM

ditto on the thanks. and I CAN use the midi file....*grin*


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: GUEST,BRYN /bryn@hughes3019.fslife.co.uk
Date: 10 Aug 03 - 01:33 PM

can anyone tell me where i can download a copy of this song (goodbye old ship of mine).as a very dear friend has been trying to get hold of it for a long time,but cant find it anywhere..


thanks very very very much


                               bryn (wales gb)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Padre
Date: 10 Aug 03 - 03:04 PM

From the draft liner notes to BP#3

"Goodbye Old Ship" was written in 1935 by Rodd Arden and Dominic Pelosi, in the style of an old music-hall 'heart song.' Our (Boarding Party) version was learned from Paris Kearn, a fine singer of sea songs whom we met in 1989. Paris said she heard it from an English friend. Joe Hickerson, at the Library of Congress' Archive of Folk Culture, found a manuscript of the song in an English collection, but it was written in a very different tempo, and we couldn't make it scan, so we kept Paris' version.

Padre


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 03 - 08:35 AM

It has also been recorded by Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman on "Away From It All" (Old and New Tradition ONTCD2022). Their liner notes read, "A 'Pop' song from the 1930's passed to us by our friend Charlie Hardy of South Shields who was born in 1912. Charlie tells us that his song was sung on the Jarrow March and accompanied by the harmonica band formed by the journalists who accompanied the march. This song was subtitled 'A Sailor's Hillbilly' as the hillbilly style of song was all the rage at the time. Very nostalgic!' Incidenatlly, that CD is full of good stuff - not a loser on it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Barry Finn
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 01:56 AM

Refreshing this for Sinsull.
I refreshed this already on the thread I didn't mean to refresh it on, sorry.
So Mary here's more info.
Mary sang this recently at the last Portsmount (NH, USA) Press Room shanty sing & I gracefully (I hardly survived me choking her, until she finally agreed) asked if she'd sing it next. I can't remember if Mary gave me her copy but she said it was from the Boarding Party & I don't remember when it was 1st recorded by them.
Any thing new on this?
Love
Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Charley Noble
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 10:37 AM

Barry-

You may find this poem by C. Fox Smith of interest, as another take on aging ships and men: Click here for website

This link will take you to the Oldpoetry website where over 150 poems of Cicely Fox Smith have been posted by myself and Shantyfreak as originally written.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Nancy King
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 10:42 AM

Barry, it's sung beautifully by Tom (Padre) McHenry on The Boarding Party's third album, "Too Far From the Shore," available from Folk-Legacy (CD - 131). You mean to say you don't have it??!!

The only correction I'd make to the above is that Paris, from whom the BP learned the song, spells her last name "Kern."

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: SINSULL
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 10:43 AM

I hesitated because I hadn't the tune down which is why it changed verse to verse. No problem, Barry. I will reciprocate with a thoughtful GIFT.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: PoppaGator
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 02:44 PM

I met KC King just last summer and joined the shanty-singing group he had had organized shortly after his relatively recent move to New Orleans. "Goodbye Old Ship of Mine" was a big favorite of some of the members, and so was included every time we gathered to sing. My own preference is for the less schmaltzy part of the shanty-sing repertoire, the true shanties or work songs, but "Goodbye Old Ship" presents a nice opportunity to harmonize and it has slowly grown on me.

I have a cassette copy of the Boarding Party album which includes this song, but until seeing this refreshed thread today, never before realized that the tune I know is not the original. Interesting.

KC is living in temporary exile in California. His New Orleans home is built on a slab in a very low-lying area of Gentilly, not far from Lake Pontchartrain and really not far from the breach of the London Avenue Canal. So, obviously, it sustained total flood damage. KC and I are both participating subscribers to an internet message board concerned with rebuilding our neighborhood, so I know he intends to return when he can.

KC and Kathi owned a lot of musical instruments, and I don't imagine they took many (if any) with them when they evacuated. (We all assumed we'd be back in a few days.) So sad. I almost have "survivor's guilt" over still owning my one-and-only guitar, which was left on my bed through the storm and stayed high and dry, about ten feet above street level and maybe four feet above the high water mark.

They'll be back in town to visit for Mardi Gras, i.e., weekend after next, and I'm looking forward to seeing them again. I had no idea before today that KC was a Mudcat member, or at least had been a participant back in Feb '00, so that's one more thing we'll have to talk about.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: GUEST,Maureen
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 02:04 AM

My Dad used to sing me this, but he used to sing, No more you'll cross the BRINE, not line. dont know if this is right


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: GOODBYE OLD SHIP OF MINE
From: Tradsinger
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 02:08 PM

I have been singing this for about 25 years, with concertina accompaniment. It makes a great ender to an evening when everyone sings the chorus. I learnt it from an old singer in Gloucestershire and later recorded Johnny Doughty singing it. The chords I use are:

C G C C7 F / C / F Am C Em C F/G C (repeat)
middle eight: F / C / G / C C7 F / C Em Am / G G7 (back to 1st line).

This fits the words:
Goodbye, old ship of mine.
No more you'll cross the line.
Well, your days are through sailing on the blue.
Goodbye, old ship of mine.

When they break you up at dawn,
In the yard where you were born,
They will break a part of a sailor's heart.
Goodbye, old ship of mine.

(middle eight):
Well, your logbook I'll keep as a token
In memory of you, Mary Ann.
I'd give the whole world just to keep you,
Oh but I'm just a poor sailor man.

So goodbye, old ship of mine,
For the sake of Auld Lang Syne.
Your name will still live on 'til the day I'm gone.
Goodbye, old ship of mine.

Good to see the info about the origins of the song.

Tradsinger


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Barry Finn
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 12:43 PM

Hi Maureen
I think I have it from George (see above) as "Brine" instead of line also.

Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: GUEST
Date: 29 May 10 - 06:34 AM

http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4165432?play_now=true
Here Is A Version By Aussie Singer Laurie Allen
He Told Me When I Recorded This Song With Him That It Was By An Old Music Hall Artist Named Marie Lloyd
More Info On Laurie And His Music aT www.reverbnation.com/laurieallen
From Warren Keats
Wasteland Studio's Melbourne Australia


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: GUEST,Kees
Date: 30 May 10 - 04:23 AM

Here's webaddress where the song can be heard.

http://sounds.bl.uk/View.aspx?item=025M-C1047X0034XX-0800V0.xml#

Kees


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: GUEST,David W
Date: 07 Sep 10 - 05:36 PM

I have a copy of this record. It is cracked though still plays I did not know it had a following. I will fetch it from the loft and put it on the gramaphone.Goodbye old ship of mine CLICK .


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: GUEST,Peter Leibert
Date: 06 Jan 13 - 09:18 PM

Anyone have musical notation for this great song. Cheers. Peter.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Bert
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 12:47 AM

How did I miss this thread?

Dad used to sing this when we were kids. Now I have all the words I can learn it properly.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 01:20 PM

Peter,
PM me your email and I'll scan and attach.
I have 3 different copies
Sung by Billy Merrin & his Commanders, Stanelli's Bachelor Party, and Dick henderson, all essentially the same sheet with a different photo on each cover. Above the title it says 'The Sailor's Hill Billy'.

Words by Rodd Arden & Dominic Pelosi. Tune by Rod Arden. Published by Irwin Dash Music.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: GUEST,Fable Goodman
Date: 03 Mar 15 - 02:15 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pgMcTqSIJ0


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 03 Mar 15 - 06:21 PM

I've written a song based on this and Spare Hands will hopefully record it on our next CD.

Pattern runs

Goodbye old Humber keel
No more I'll take the wheel,
No more on the Humber
Your days they are numbered,
Goodbye old Humber keel

Another verse
No more on the Ouse
Will we go for a cruise

and more in the same vein.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: bubblyrat
Date: 04 Mar 15 - 08:46 AM

I think that "Cross the LINE " is more appropriate , as in crossing the equator ( which I have done several times AND I've got a "Bluenose Certificate" for crossing the Arctic Circle !).

But in any event it's a lovely ,emotional song. One has to have served in a ship for a year or two to understand how one can become so attached to her; I was in aircraft-carrier HMS Eagle from 1966-69 and I STILL miss her today , although I cannot say the same about HMS Centaur, sadly !


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: GUEST,Ainsley
Date: 15 Mar 15 - 05:14 AM

On Saturday evening (14 march 2015)I heard this song sung (unaccompanied) for the first time by Dave at the White Hart Folk club at Mickleby near Whitby, North yokshire, so it seems it is still sung around the clubs. He was kind enough to give me a copy of the words (as quoted on previous Threads). Thanks


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: GUEST,Glynn
Date: 29 Nov 15 - 07:09 PM

Im 36 my movies used to sing that song to me when i was much younger. my grand parents of from gb. would love to get my hands on a copy to give to them. my grandfather used to be in the royal navy. email lord.gs.vader@gmail.com


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Subject: RE: req/ADD: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Nov 15 - 03:52 AM

Hi, Glynn-

I found a number of YouTube recordings.

Here's Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvamrwXn6BE

Laurie Allen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f5vfGMvDzc

Tex Morton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfdzIH-73XU

Arthur Tracy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKSOZC_UBys

And Lou Preager & His Romano's Restaurant Dance Orchestra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhIkhx2wup0

Hope that helps.

-Joe Offer, Music Editor-
The Mudcat Cafe
(email sent)


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Subject: RE: req/ADD: Goodbye Old Ship of Mine
From: Tradsinger
Date: 30 Nov 15 - 04:08 AM

Here's a version from the 'field'.

http://glostrad.com/goodbye-old-ship-of-mine/

Tradsinger


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