Lesser known folk groups

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: JJ
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 09:06 AM

Way back in the first post, Big Red mentioned Brown & Dana.

When the duo broke up, Garrett Brown moved to Hollywood, where he invented the Steadicam.

You could look it up...

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Big Jim from Jackson
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 11:19 AM

How about Cathy Barton and Dave Para?

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 11:58 AM

The Philharmonious Jug Band

Giok

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,RightWay
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 08:37 PM

No one has mentioned The Womenfolk.......% albums for RCA
Here was a group of 5 women with delicious harmonies, and a sense of humor....Leni Ashmore, Babs Cooper, Judy Fine, Jean Amos, Joyce James (deceased) and sometimes Elaine Gealer....YOu are remembered!

tg

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 01:23 AM

The Goldcoast Singers, and Jim Kweskin's Jugband.

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 10:35 PM

...and Frank Hamilton and Valucha Buffington Arneson were a very nice duo around Chicago in other times.

The Old Town Singers were Guy Guilbert (guitar), Barb Stracke, and someone else I can't recall.

Maybe it was Ginni Clemmens.

I do know that Guy and Ginni were a trio in Chicago with with Elaine McFarland.

Later Elaine McFarland used the name SPANKY and was in a folk/pop group with Oz Bach and Fred Williams called SPANKY AND OUR GANG. They had some hits---one I think was called "Monday (or Sunday)Will Never Be The Same".

And a good group with Anne Hills and Bob Gibson and Tom Paxton called BEST OF FRIENDS. I believe a live performance CD of these three is out now.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: kendall
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 07:27 AM

Hal 'n Tow of New Brunswick

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Sep 05 - 10:02 AM

I remember Carolyn Hester from the good old days around the London folk scene in the 60s I first saw her at the Assembly Rooms in Surbiton {I think} run by Derek Sarjeant and Hazel King as she then was, later to become Hazel Serjeant. Derek has put up a site in memory of Hazel who unfortunately died a premature death in 2003, there are some great pictures of a few old faces on this site which is here for anybody who is interested.
Giok

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Sep 05 - 12:20 PM

How about Cliff Haslam and Geoff Kaufman and Don Sineti?

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Fullerton
Date: 11 Sep 05 - 11:02 AM

Whatever happened to the

Gyratic Space Inspectors,

the Jazz Penguins,

Afternoon Tea on the Lawn,

Bludgeon the Seabird, (Retrospective four album boxed set out soon.)

Vortex of Influential Dandelions. (VOID) (Heavy metal morris with 2 Tubas)

Grond, I believe, are still extant.

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Bruce Baillie
Date: 11 Sep 05 - 06:19 PM

...and what about
Hebric,
Bruce & Audrey
Baillie & Sugden
Bull Pratt
Baillie & Allcock
The Hot Punch Ceildih Band
The Jovial Gentlemen
The Hard End Shifters
etc

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Mortimer
Date: 17 May 07 - 11:28 AM

I have been hunting for records by the Ivy League Trio.   Saw them perform at the Platters circa 1960's in Cadillac, Michigan.   Have been a fan ever since. I have three records that I have transfered to CD, but quality is not good.   Is anyone aware of whether they are out on commercial CD's yet.   This is a great group with interesting harmony and chord changes.   Interested in any knowledge about the performers and what they are currently doing?

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 17 May 07 - 04:11 PM

I was part of what has to have been one of the absolutely least known groups in the early '60's. We were known as (triply eponymously) the BobTomLee Trio. We never recorded, but did make a lot of county fairs and night clubs in odd places, including the Purple Onion - briefly and late.

The others mentioned above included the Poso Seco Singers. Was Linda Ronstadt part of that group? The Back Porch Majority began life as a "farm team" for the New Christy Minstrels, as someone said. They assumed an identity of their own for a time, albeit second level.

Buck Wheat is deceased, I'm told.

The Journeymen included a pretty fair banjoist named Dick Weissman, along with John Phillips and Scott McKenzie. They were supposed to be the "next Kingston Trio." Weissman is probably better known for the "Dueling Banjo's" number from "Deliverance." I have two original LP's of Art & Paul, but no sheet music. Their backup guitarist was Paul Prestopino, I believe.

Someone mentioned "Sweet's Mill." That was a Fresno County, California venue in the foothills that was home to an annual folk camp and revelry. The late Mark Spoelstra was a regular, among others.

Travis Edmonson (Bud & Travis) is still living in Arizona, though he can no longer perform due to a stroke. He has a website with a lot of good stuff on it. Two of the original Kingston Trio are still living. Bob Shane is retired in Arizona and Nick Reynolds, who I see from time to time, is retired in Coronado, CA.

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: Stringsinger
Date: 17 May 07 - 04:33 PM

How 'bout the Homesteaders? Ronnie Gilbert singing with Judy Collins.

Walter Raim and the Homesteaders.

Linda was with the Stoned Ponies. (Yeah boy! those were the daze)

Art, wasn't that Johny Carbo?

How 'bout the San Francisco group, Jerry Walters, Elmer Lee Thomas, Travis Edmondsen called the Gateway Singers? They held down the "hungry i" along with Mort Sahl, Stan Wilson, Maya Angelou, the Limelighters, Johnathon Winters, Glen Yarborough, Godfrey Cambridge and Woody Allen.

Who was Woodier? Allen or Guthrie?

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: Betsy
Date: 18 May 07 - 07:34 AM

I was watching an old episode (25+ years?)of the Two Ronnies the other night. In their programme in those days they had a musical slot half way through the Comedy show.They introduced a 3 man group who were SO, so.........words almost fail me . I can only say that they appeared to be an attempt by the music industry to try to launch a Folk Group. Couldn't fault the guitar playing,sang perfect diction and in tune.The songs were cobbled-together bits of the themes of Trad songs ,but the whole thing was a bit wierd.They were called New World. Did they survive or did people ever take them seriously. No !!!! it wasn't a piss-take by the two Ronnies - it was meant to be taken seriously .

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 21 May 07 - 09:47 AM

This is what I posted on the "Little Known'60s folk group" thread:
I found this on AllMusic guide: they were active in 1970s not 60s tho':

Broad of collar and bright of shirt, New Zealand's New World exemplified the kind of bright-eyed, lightly sentimental folk-pop that threatened to devour the UK charts of the early 1970s. Pre-glam, pre-prog, and almost prepubescently harmless, the trio emerged out of British television's Opportunity Knocks talent show and briefly threatened to become their homeland's biggest ever export. Especially after the all-conquering combination of label-head Mickie Most, producer Mike Hurst, and songwriters Nicky Chinn and Mike Chapman ganged up on a generation's ears and soft-soaped them into submission.Between 1971-72, the New World trio scored four UK hits of note, each of which distinguishes this (otherwise over-ambitious) collection. "Rose Garden" was a moderately successful pop rival to Lynn Anderson's contemporary country number; "Sister Jane" is a compulsory singalong; and "Kara Kara" is an irresistible slice of rhyming nonsense that should have been their biggest record ever. Instead, that honor went to "Tom Tom Turnaround," the smash hit version of a song that the early Sweet also recorded, and a recording that producer Mike Hurst later admitted he hated. "It was everything I disliked about pure pop, right down to the execrable talking bit." In fact, the only thing that salvaged it in his opinion was, it wasn't as bad as "Kara Kara."The remainder of this collection trawls a career that, somewhat surprisingly, remained musically active until deep into 1973 — and long after the record-buying public had forgotten the group. For the chance to relive those early hits, however, The Best Of New World is exactly what it says and, so long as you don't want to hear anything else that the band ever wrought, it's everything you could possibly need.

RtS

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: Stringsinger
Date: 21 May 07 - 12:29 PM

The Folksay Trio with Erik Darling, Bob Carey and Roger Sprung on Asch/Stinson was the first group to popularize Tom Dooley. The KT appropriated the song from them although they either denied that they did or didn't know that they did.

Erik Darling was responsible for a lot of the folk pop group sounds that you heard in those days. No one knew about it though which is typical.

I think the Folksay Trio may have easilly been one of the first aside from the Weavers and the Priority Ramblers or the Almanac Singers to bring the folk group from out of obscurity.

The Gateway Singers were another. Jerry Walter, Elmer Lee Thomas and others including Travis Edmonsen.

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: stallion
Date: 21 May 07 - 01:12 PM

I haven't read through this thread but how about New Zealand's "Hogsnort Ruperts Original Flagon Band", if anyone knows of the whereabouts of my mate Ian terry, formerly of that band, I would be pleased to renew our aquaintence

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,wordfella
Date: 22 May 07 - 07:43 AM

>>Weissman is probably better known for the "Dueling Banjo's" number from "Deliverance."<<

No--that was Eric Weissberg, who played for a while with the Tarriers.

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: Moleskin Joe
Date: 22 May 07 - 09:09 AM

Has anyone heard of a singer called Murray Young, originally from the West Indies?

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 11 - 06:58 PM

"I have been hunting for records by the Ivy League Trio.   Saw them perform at the Platters circa 1960's in Cadillac, Michigan.   Have been a fan ever since. I have three records that I have transfered to CD, but quality is not good.   Is anyone aware of whether they are out on commercial CD's yet.   This is a great group with interesting harmony and chord changes.   Interested in any knowledge about the performers and what they are currently doing?"

Most of them aren't doing much. Yeah, you guessed it.
Norris O'Neill died a while ago, as did Bev Galloway.
I'm not too sure about Bob Hider (appropriate last name, then).
Galloway was on the two Coral albums, then replaced by Ronn Langford for the brilliant Poe folk song album Ronn is still with us. He founded Masterdrive.com

You can hear a sample of the Trio's Poe album here:
http://illfolks.blogspot.com/search?q=Ivy+League+Trio

The Trio issued a few singles that don't appear on any album, (I'm Just a Country Boy" "Sailors Women") which are for compleatists only.

Norris and Bob were part of The Bitter End Singers for a while. Sample song:
http://www.box.net/shared/j93ltcev66

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Kenny Shaw
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 01:27 AM

Need a favour, if at all possible ? My Aussie mates love the song 'Underneath the Stairs' by Carrick Folk Four in 1960's by George Stevenson ?? Looking for another song by them or George they might learn to love ... Have Radio Scotland; Walter McGowan .. never heard Ballad of The Torrey Canyon ? BIG ASK ... Ken
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Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 02:34 AM

The New Mexborough English Concertina Quartet

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: The Og
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 09:27 AM

The Seaway Singers, The Quarrymen, The Sherri Van Singers and The Frontiersmen from the Canada/Niagara Falls border area.

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Peter Cripps
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 09:38 AM

The "Fastest Bat"?

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Nov 21 - 09:54 AM

The "Fastest Bat"? was the lead player geofrfey boycott

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Rob Mad Jock Wright
Date: 08 Nov 21 - 04:37 AM

Angie Wright was a member of the trio Cadence. They played the Leigh Folk Club a few times before fading just as they were getting known.

Angie then have 10 years in Taggart and Wright. They recorded one CD Now We Are Met .
Recording fees were less than £50. Done more asnow a sample to send to clubs and festivals. Not many of them out there perhaps only 200 or so.

Angie moved from Chester to Perth and so the split happened. ..pity.

An attempt to get another close harmony group together gave Third Voice but they never really gelled and they dissolved after 3 gigs.

Angie now solo again but loves playing at The Twa Tams with the house band made up of whoever wants to join in.

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: Larry The Radio Guy
Date: 08 Nov 21 - 12:53 PM

Have "the Skifflers" (with Milt Okun, Hally Wood, Lee Charles, and Libby Knight been mentioned?

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 21 - 06:01 PM

"Jolie Blon" - early 70s, from round Glasgow.

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Sandinmyears
Date: 17 Jun 22 - 09:44 AM

I don’t think of The Chad Mitchell Trio as “lesser known.”

Subject: RE: Lesser known folk groups
From: beachcomber
Date: 21 Jun 22 - 07:56 PM

Gone through this thread, after 20 odd years and didn't see THE GALLIARDS mentioned. They were Robin Hall, Jimmie McGregor, Shirley Bland and Leon Rosselson.
Their First recording was issued on a Hall & McGregor LP which was the first one that I ever bought. It had songs from all over the world and it was brilliant. I still have it and it still sounds good.