Lesser known folk groups

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Mark Ross
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 12:45 PM

Does anyone remember THE UPPER KNOBLICK 10,000?

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Bob N.
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 09:36 PM

What years was Judy Collins with The Homesteaders? When I read her biography, I don't remember reading about this group. I thought her focus was on her solo career only. Great thread btw....

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Bud
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 09:02 PM

The Cumberland Trio (not to be confused with The Cumberland Three) was a fine folk group formed at the University of Tennessee. I think they released a CD recently that was recorded 40 years ago, but had never been released before.
The Cumberland Three was mentioned earlier, but only named John Stewart(who quit the CT to join the Kingston Trio and went on to have a solo career), also had John (Monty) Montgomery, and Gil Robbins as members. Gil Robbins joined the Highwaymen after leaving the Cumberland Three. Gil is also father of Tim Robbins the movie star. Mike Settle also was a member of the Cumberland Three for a very short time. I think Mike Settle recorded one song with The Cumberland Three.
Bud

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: jaze
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 07:40 PM

Cathy and Carol.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Ken Brock
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 06:26 PM

I don't know about Mike Settle, but The Homesteaders definitely included Judy Collins, Ronnie Gilbert and Frank Hamilton. The Riverside session engineer has posted his recollections on the web, which I read years ago.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: curmudgeon
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 05:16 PM

And Arkin did provide recorder accompaniment to Ed McCurdy on some of the "Dalliance" numbers.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Bill Warren
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 04:21 PM

Alan Arkin was definitely a folkie; in addition to The Tarriers, he did indeed perform with the Babysitters. (And he was also writing for science fiction magazines at the time.)

There was a notably lousy group called The Coachmen who did a fairly funny parody combining "Tom Dooley" and "MTA." And there were, and are, the 3Ds; their first album, now available on CD, was well-known poems (The Bells, Annabelle Lee, Richard Cory) set to folk melodies.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Jul 00 - 01:12 PM

Sandy,

Yes, The New Crusty Nostrils were fair to middlin' group. Virtuoso nose flute players----er, pickers.

Nose flute wa snot what it seemed to be.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Mini Me
Date: 07 Jul 00 - 12:50 PM

Dear Guest, Don Williams, the great country singer/songwriter ( Amanda ) and other great hits was an original member of the Poso Seco Singers.

Mike Strobel

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: John Hindsill
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 11:25 PM

I find this to be a most interesting thread. From here it looks like who was a 'lesser known group' depends on where you were when they were active. For instance, here in SoCal I would not have considered the Dillards, Tarriers, Gateway Singers, Bud & Travis or Chad Mitchell Trio, among others, as lesser.

In various incarnations the Gateway Singers had Lou Gottlieb and Travis Edmunson, who went on to other groups. And Travis' partner Bud formed Bud Dashiell and the Kinsmen after B & T split up. The Whiskeyhill Singers (mentioned early on) was formed by Dave Guard after he left the Kingstons, and had as the obligatory girl member, Judy Henske.

The New Christy Minstrels was originally made of of lesser known acts -Art Podell, mentioned above somewhere, and BARRY McGuire & BARRY Kane come to mind.

Of all the groups previously cited, my personal favorite was (were?) the Travelers 3. My favorite of all (and not previously mentioned)was Terrea Lea, who operated the Garret Coffee House in West Hollywood, just her voice, an acoustic guitar and the expresso machine; that was folk music!

John Hindsill

Subject: RE: Correction
From: Mike Regenstreif
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 05:21 PM

Sorry Philj200, but your "correction" is incorrect.

Erik Darling was indeed a member of the Tarriers. So was Alan Arkin.

Jim & Jean were not Canadian. Jim Glover (the "Jim" of Jim & Jean) was a college friend of Phil Ochs'.

Mike Regenstreif

Subject: Addendum and apology
From: Philj200
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 04:15 PM

Addendum: Erik Darling (after the Weavers and during his solo and sideman career) was in a one-thick pony called the Rooftop Singers. Their one major song was a cover of Gus Cannon's 1920ish "Walk Right In."

Apology: For my wretched spelling.

Subject: Correction
From: Philj200
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 04:09 PM

Erik Darling (who I knew slightly) never played with the Tarriers. That was the very different Eric Weisberg, who still is working in the mileu.

Alan Arkin wasn't a fplkie. But his cousin Steve Arkin was a formidable banjp picker who played with Bill Monroe for a season or two.

The Holy Modal Rounders are still around and working the college circuit along with their alter egos, the Fugs (of whom I played with for one season a jillion years ago.) Some of the Rounders are also part time Fugs, depending on who gets the gig.

An truely beautiful group from Canada who opened for Ian and Sylvia (after they got too big to open for Phil Ochs) was Jim and Jean. Their version of Grand Hotel still haunts me. Anyone know all the words?

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 02:26 PM

And this just in -
My taste has always run toward the funny and the country. And when you're talking funny and folk, don't overlook the old recordings by the Smothers Brothers. They were good and funny. And if you're talking good and funny and country, check out Homer and Jethro. They have a live album (Live at the Country Club) that is terrific.

Also, there are some forgotten gems by quote-un-quote Country artists like Roger Miller, Glenn Campbell, Johnny Sea and the one-and-only Johnny Cash that have some classic acoustic/folk music on them. There is also a recording by Tompall Glaser and the Glaser Brothers that has some great harmonies and interesting songs. It kind of falls under the heading of alt-country roots.`

Chanteyranger - That would, iindeed, be Hamilton Camp. He was Bob Camp and then Hamid Hamilton Camp. A singer, actor, writer; a man of many hats and names.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 03:14 AM

Bigchuck -

Would that be Hamilton Camp?

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: bigchuck
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 08:44 PM

One of my favorite duos from that era, that I don't think anyone's mentioned yet, were Bob Gibson and Bob Camp.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Big Red
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 08:04 PM

Was suprised that the first and only thread I started was revised, if ever so briefly. Although not on my list of favorites, the MFQ are well worth a listen. I only have one of their albums and that is titled MFQ. May be their first. If you have any intrest in it get me your e-mail and we can make some arrangement. Always willing to share. This thread was worth it to me because I found out my collection has a long way to go. Next time I will ask for better ways to expand it.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Jacob B
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 03:58 PM

I have a recording by Art and Paul. That's Art Podell and Paul Potash. The liner notes say that they met when they were both working as waiters at Camp Ramah. I believe that one of them was later a member of the New Christy Minstrels. I like their version of "Moonshiner".

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Hollowfox
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 02:47 PM

Bottle Hill and Frummox

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 02:01 AM

Topcat asked about Stan Hugill. He passed away in '91 or '92. He was "discovered" late in life, and was recorded solo and with a shanty group called "Stormalong John." A member of that group was Irish singer Shay Black, of Black Family fame, who now tours with family members and hosts an Irish session at Berkeley California's Starry Plough pub.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,David Walker
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 12:42 AM

The Modern Folk Quartet is neat group with close harmonies in a kinda Jass tradition. They are great and I am in search for some of their lesser known albums. Such as Moonlight Seronade, Mozart, Bamboo Saloon and Highway Seventy. Just call me desperate I can't get enough of them.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,David Walker
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 12:22 AM

The Modern Folk Quartet is neat group with close harmonies in a kinda Jass tradition. They are great and I am in search for some of their lesser known albums. Such as Moonlight Seronade, Mozart, Bamboo Saloon and Highway Seventy. Just call me desperate I can't get enough of them.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Fortunato
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 08:56 AM

Rick, let me tell you about a twelve-step program for recovering folkaholics.

I, at least, only recognized 75% of them.

Nice trip down memory lane. Thanks, kids.

Fortunato

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,jhenderson
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 08:40 AM

I'd like to turn this old thread into a query about the Briarwood Singers.

I've been asked by someone who remembers her parents' record album from the early 1960s by the Briarwood Singers. She'd like to find information about this group - who the members were, what records they put out, where are they now, that kind of stuff. She wondered where to look, and I immediately thought of you guys.

Can any of you help?

Thanks, John

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 02:04 AM

My GOD! If I ever had any doubts that I'm a total FOLK NURD, they were dispelled by this thread. With the exception of a couple of groups, I'm familiar with EVERY band named! Jeez Fielding, get a life!

A few more however: "The Gangreen Boys".

"The Crabgrass Ramblers".

"The Incredible Steam Driven Chicken".

"The Harvesters".

"The GinMill Syncopators".

Yup, I was in 'em all.

Rick

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: TheOldMole
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 01:37 AM

Carolyn Hester's debut album is also known for being the first record Bob Dylan ever played on.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 01:19 AM

And Art didn't even mention his favorite group: The New Crusty Nostrils! Or did he?

Sandy

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 11:19 AM

Art! just seen your supergroup pun.I know you're the Prince of Punsters but it was a classic. LMFAO!
RtS (green with jealousy, can't steal it, my name wouldn't fit!)

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 12:24 AM

I have one "Sundowners" album. Do you want a cassette? If you do, "message" me your snail mail address. Sorcha

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Big Red
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 12:18 AM

When I started this thread, I was hoping to get an idea of how much more I have to look forward to. Apparenty a lot. While I do have some of those mentioned, I have a long way to go. Not mentioned by part of my collection are; Heightsmen, Yachtsmen, Les Baxters Balladeers, Minstrels Three, Brothers Dooley, Mike St. Shaw Trio, Kinsmen (with Bud Dasdiell), Westside Four, Sundowners, Tradewinds, Westside Trio, Tripjacks, Wanderin Five, Appalachians and 3 from Montana. Some I like, some I don't. But its always fun to find a new one. Thanks to all you good folks out there that helped me on this.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Ely
Date: 02 Mar 00 - 12:44 PM

DonMeixner, My apologies on Carolyn Hester. The stuff I've seen of hers [my experience only] is early-mid '60's and, generally, it's not that great; her voice control wasn't very good. I'll keep looking.

Ely

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Seamus Kennedy
Date: 02 Mar 00 - 01:52 AM

The Hard Travelers, The Aran Folk, The Bordermen, The Beggarmen, Scaffold, Whitley & Skaggs. I don't think Malvina Reynolds and Carolyn Hester were 'groups", I mean they didn't put weight on until recently..

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 02 Mar 00 - 12:45 AM

Hey, Art, I think I still have that LP. I used to keep it in a treasured position on my shelf, right next to my favorite Japanese/Italian cookbook, Saimin and Garafunghili.

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 Mar 00 - 11:27 PM

The NEW WINE FOLKSINGERS ---were the owners and the house act at THE RISING MOON, a folk club bar in Chicago. (1305 N. Wells Street in Old Town) They were Bill Malloy, Arnie Lanza, Malcolm Hale and Gusty Hervie. Gusty was later replaced by Elaine (Spanky) McFarland. "Spankie" was also the lead singer of SPANKIE AND OUR GANG who had some pop success with songs like "Sunday Will Never Be The Same". The other members of S.and O.G. were Fred Williams and Oz Bach.

A great club owned by Lorraine Blue was MOTHER BLUES in Chicago. It was in that same space the Rising Moon had previously occupied.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 Mar 00 - 06:03 PM

A group I was in in the late 50s made up of-----Elvis, Patti Page, Rosemary Clooney and me. We called ourselves---------Presley, Page, Rosemary and Thieme.

Art

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Giac
Date: 01 Mar 00 - 02:29 PM

How about The Dillards (Bluegrass-ish, but they did some fine traditional, too), and Guy and Candy Carawan ...

Giac

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 01 Mar 00 - 01:10 PM

I also forgot "The springfields" Dusty was their singer with Tom and ? but they made some good folkie music back in the 60's

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 10:45 PM

The Pozo-Seco Singers included Don Williams who went on to a huge measure of success in the country field. That success was earned by good singing and good songs.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: raredance
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 09:35 PM

Actually the Womenfolk had 5 albums if you count "We Give A Hoot! the Womenfolk - the Villagers". Well, OK 4 1/2.

rich r

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,Topcat
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 08:32 PM

What Does Anyone Know of Stan Hugil Liverpool Shanty man way back in the early 60's I recall from Keele Folk festival days

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: DonMeixner
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 05:52 PM

Ely,

Carolyn Hester was not a Joan Baez wanna be. She is a fine singer and talent all on her own and her recordings predate Joan Baez by a few years. I have a rerelease of a Hester recording, the original release date was 19 57 or 58.

Don

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 04:42 PM

Hey you can't say Malvina reynolds was a nearly! She wrote; Little boxes, What have they done to the rain? Turn around (Where are you going my little one etc) and several other songs. She performed until an old lady. I saw her in the UK in the mid to late seventies when she must have been about that old herself. A grand old lady.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 02:11 PM

Pozo-Seco Singers, of I Can Make It With You fame:

http://www.worldwidewax.com/recs/x6/x630.htm

and various other links, once you have the right spelling.

I found a good few links on www.ixquick.com, a new good metasearch engine. On www.dogpile.com, once you have the name right, there are lots of places to buy their albums.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Duffy Keith
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 11:27 AM

The whiskey hill singers were a group started up by Dave Guard, when he left the kingston trio, and Judy Henske, and David "buck" Wheat who was the sideman bass player for the Kingston trio. David Wheat can be seen on the cover of the "Going Places" album By the KT....Does anyone know whatever happened to David Wheat...??? Duffy Keith

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Bud Savoie
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 08:27 AM

Some of what are listed as lesser-known groups and folks were pretty well known back during the folk boom days. The New Lost City Ramblers were and are very well known and regarded. Buffy Sainte-Marie was heard all the time on folk radio stations and later appeared on Sesame Street. Most of the groups mentnioned, however, well deserved the obscurity from which they never emerged.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Troll
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 08:19 AM

The Serendipidy Singers

troll

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Ely
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 08:11 AM

Rosalie Sorrels. My father sang that "hostile baby-rocking song" about "There's an island way out in the sea, where the babies they all grow on trees" all the time. He got it off _Always a Lady_.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: rangeroger
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 02:04 AM

How about The Womenfolk? Jean Amos,Leni Ashmore,Barbara Cooper, Judy Fine, and Joyce James. Put out 4 albums on RCA Victor label.

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Sabra
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 12:54 AM

OOPS! I forgot, Malvena Reynolds. She wrote "Little Boxes" and a neat children's song that I think was called "Morningtown Ride"? Bear with me, I'm recalling this from a 4-yr old's perspective, but I loved her songs back then!

Subject: RE: Help: Lesser known folk groups
From: Sabra
Date: 29 Feb 00 - 12:47 AM

Nobody's mentioned Buffy Sainte-Marie yet??
Also, Sandy listed Pat & Victoria Garvey----definately worth looking for!! One song they wrote/sang called "Trail of Tears" still hums around in my head from time to time..haunting! My dad used to produce folk concerts in our region and Pat & Vickie used to stay with us when they were playing close by-the late night Jam sessions were pretty cool!
Don't know if they count as folk or early country (blended together back then) but what about The Carter Family?