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Subject: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: BlueSage
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 11:49 PM

I'm doing a material search for my trio. Anyone know of any outstanding folk songs (trad. or contemporary) that deal with themes pertaining to the American west? If so, what recordings of same songs would you recommend? Any suggestions will be of great help to me! Thanks in advance...Mike Iverson


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: rainbow
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 11:57 PM

how about rounder recordings? 1996 "singing in the saddle" - seventy years of recorded cowboy song. rounder cd 1102... has gene autry, sons of the pioneers, roy rogers, tex ritter, bob wills and his texas playboys, ray whitley, elton britt, rosalie allen, louise massey and the westerners, wilf carter (montana slim) and jimmy wakely trio. i really like montana slim's song "there's a love knot in my lariat."

and skip gorman's cd's, and sourdough slim's cd's (along with the saddle pals, aka cactus bob and prarie flower)...

... lorraine


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: DonMeixner
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 12:08 AM

Pure folk? Hard to say, Strawberry Roan, Tyin' a Knot, Plains of the Buffalo, Billy Venero, Alongside the Sante Fe Trail.

Western Jazz, Cool Water, Blue Bonnet Girl, Way Out There, Everlasting Hills of Oklahoma, anything By The Sons of The Pioneers, Bob Wills,

Modern, Four Strong Winds, Nightriders Lament, Goodnight/Loving Trail,

Don


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Amos
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 01:00 AM

Lavender Cowboy, Laredo, Red River Valley, Got No Use For The Women, Colorado Trail, Riding Old Paint, Night Riders, Get Around, Lil Dogies, Chisholm Trail, and Rockabye Sweet Babty James


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Homeless
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 01:08 AM

I ran across a somewhat scary (for me) CD at the local library. It's called "Cowboy Celtic" by David Wilkie, published by Red House Records, 1996. It's got some of the songs listed in previous posts. The scary part was that most of the songs were done with a celtic flavor to them. It was supposed to show how the Old West songs were influenced by the music that came across with the immigrants of the time.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 01:30 AM

Utah Carl, Little Joe the Wrangler, The Last Wagon, Old Dolores, The Telling Takes Me Home (one of Utah Phillips' genuine gems), Tyin' a Knot in the Devil's Tail (AKA Sirey Peaks), Scum the Saddle Bum (on one of Skip Gorman's Folk-Legacy cassettes). Many more.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 01:35 AM

Here's a quarter, call someone who cares.....

Or are you not wanting more modern stuff? That one for me sums up all that is the American West. Just an old cynic I suppose...

If it's the old stuff you want, then I guess Red River Valley always does it for me, typical story of a bloke shagging a girl from a different background/ethnic group for pleasure, then buggering off when one of his own calls, regardless of what he leaves behind. A broken hearted NA girl in this case, but usually with something else like TB, syphillis, measles or chickenpox, all equally deadly, and a lot less fun....

LTS


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Arkie
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 01:52 AM

The Gol' Darn Wheel and Stetson Hat are in Glenn Ohrlin's book of cowboy songs. The first describes a cowboy's encounter with a bicycle. The second is a tribute to his hat, as you might suspect. For more contemporary songs you might check into anything by Bob Campbell. Some of my favorites are Big Cowboy Moon; Roll On, Cowboys; Round Up Time on the Pitchfork; Arbuckle Coffee, and Dance At Domingo. Also Sonora's Death Row and Marty Robbin's song about Old Red, about the battle between the horse that had never been rode and the cowboy that had never been throwed.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Stewie
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 02:23 AM

For the classic old stuff (20s and 30s), see the two Yazoo compilations 'When I Was a Cowboy Vols 1 & 2' Yazoo 2022 and 2023 - everything you need from that era. For later material, try Tom Russell's 'Cowboy Real' Philo PH 1146 - highlights are 'El Llano Estacado' and 'Roanie' - also his 'Song of the West' HMG 2501 and Ian Tyson's excellent 'Old Corrals and Sagebrush and Other Cowboy Culture Classics' Bear Family BCD 15437. Those don't skip over the terrain, they well and truly dig into the ground.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Chris/Darwin
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 02:46 AM

"The Goodnight-Loving Trail" (Utah Phillips) would have to be my favourite.

Regards
Chris


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Lanfranc
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 06:53 AM

RE Celtic & Western

Those blasted (blasting?) Hibernians try to subborn every music genre going - I'm waiting for some member of the Irish mafia to claim that Beethoven was really Loudvaich O'Bheathown from Tipperary!

RE Modern Cowboy Songs

How about "Sweet Baby James" by James Taylor, and there's a Don McLean song whose title escapes me for the moment, "I could have been most anything that I set my mind to be, but a cowboy's life was the only one for me ...". Also "Long Black Rifle" as sung by the Kingston Trio and "South Coast" as sung by Derroll Adams and others.

Trad ditto

"Streets of Laredo", "Chisholm Trail" and "Bucking Bronco" come to mind.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Frankie
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 08:02 AM

Gosh Liz, thanks for setting me straight on Red River Valley. Here I thought it was just a simple, beautiful song of parting.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 08:34 AM

At www.bibliofind.com, you will find used copies of Lomax's book, Cowboy Songs and Frontier Ballads, which was republsihed in 1986 by Alan Lomax, ISBN # 0-02-061260-5.

You can also find copies of Ms. Katie Lee's 10,000 Goddam Cattle You will also find many of the songs already mentioned, in teh DigiTrad database here at the Mudcat. Another favourite of mine is "When the work's all done this fall."

We also had a huge thread on this with some wodnerful postings by Sandy Paton, Frank Hamilton and others which you will find here. You can also type in COWBOY in the filter box at the top of the threads, set the date to one or two years and find a few more threads relating to cowboy songs in some manner.

Have fun,

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Timehiker
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 08:36 AM

Being a horseman more so than a cowboy, my favorite oldtimers are "I Ride Old Paint" and "The Strawberry Roan". As for the newer ones, "Amarillo By Morning" describes the modern rodeo experience better than any of 'em IMHO. There's a rodeo singer named Chris Leduiox(sp?) who has several albums of cowboy and rodeo songs out. He covers many of the titles already mentioned in this thread. Take care, Timehiker


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: kendall
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 09:13 AM

Fast Gun Getting Slow by Dave Mallett


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 09:19 AM

My great favorites are _The Greenhorn_ and _Zebra Dun_.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Frankie
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 09:32 AM

Yes, When the Work's all Done this Fall is a great one and Doc and Merle Watson do a fine version of it on their On Stage album. One of my all time favorite recordings is Marty Robbin's Gunfighter Ballads and Trail Songs which includes classics like Strawberry Roan and Cool Water as well as his two masterpieces Big Iron and El Paso. F


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 09:53 AM

IMO, Chris Ledoux's early stuff is more trad cowboy stuff than his more recent. We knew him then, he still lives just up the road from where we are in Wyoming.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Midchuck
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 10:30 AM

I concur with enthusiasm on the Tom Russell suggestions.

I concur with equal enthusiasm on the Ian Tyson suggestions, but I think "Cowboyography" is really his best.

Skip Gorman has several albums of cowboy songs, all good stuff, and more authentic trad. than the above.

Try to find Guy Logston's book "The Whorehouse Bells Were Ringing" and Other Songs Cowboys Sing. It has great songs, but they may be too authentic to perform in many venues.....

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Duffy Keith
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 10:38 AM

Hey Homeless, what was that "cowboy celtic' music like....DK


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: pastorpest
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 10:47 AM

In the fifties (am I dating myself!) the Norman Luboff Choir issues an LP entitled "Songs of the West" with great cowboy/western folk songs on it. I wish that whoever owns the copyrights to the Luboff "Songs of the West, the Sea, The South, and the World" would reissue them as CDs.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Pixie
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 11:38 AM

Tumbling Tumbleweeds! What a hard one to narrow down. If I didn't live in the Maritimes, I'd live in the old west! Yahoo! Try some of Michael Martin Murphey's recordings of cowboy songs....Linda Ronstadt has recorded many old western tunes over the years, as has Emmylou Harris. There is a whole culture in the interior of BC devoted to keeping this genre going so there should be lots of resource material out there.

Pixie


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: folk1234
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 01:34 PM

One of my favorites not yet mentioned is "Blue Mountain". I've heard it done with somewhat of a bluegrass mountain twang and meter, but my favorite version is the one done by Bok, Muir, & Trickett in cowboy waltz-time on their "Lanugage of the Heart" CD. It is available from our friends at Folk Legacy.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Susan A-R
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 01:53 PM

My favorites would be Goodnight Lovin' trail, Old Dolores and Spanish is the Lovin Tongue. What are some of the good yodeling songs? Those are fun for harmonizing once you get them down.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Big Red
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 03:50 PM

My all time favorite is the old one-liner (melody is variable and/or optional) "I'm lonesome in the saddle since my horose died."


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 03:58 PM

In the Traditional grouping, I like Old Paint, The Texas Rangers, Streets of Laredo, San Antonio Rose and Jessie James. Of the newer "old favorites" I like The Blue Canadian Rockies, Me and my Uncle, Someday Soon, Sonora's Deathrow and Ghost Riders. For sheer energy, its hard to beat Thin Lizzy's Cowboy Song.

Roll me over and turn me around
Let me keep spinnin' 'til I hit the ground
Roll me over and let me go
Runnin' free with the Buffalo


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Biskit
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 08:15 PM

There is just so many good ones,... if I had to pick one it would have to be "Long Black Veil" as done by the man in black Johnny Cash. -Biskit-


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 01:33 AM

There's a great "cowboy" version of Barbra Allen on Art Thieme's "The Older I Get the Better I Was" CD. A very classy mix...

Lin


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: TheOldMole
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 02:00 AM

Another song about shagging a girl of a different race is "The Yellow Rose of Texas," done beautifully by Michael Martin Murphey on "Cowboy Songs." That album also has a great Ian Tyson song called "Cowboy Pride."

Did anyone mention Jerry Jeff Walker's "Navajo Rug" album?

And there's a wonderful song by Woody Guthrie called "Belle Starr," never recorded by Woody. In fact, he never wrote music to it, but Pete Seeger did, and put it on an album of cowboy songs by various artists.

And you can't forget Frankie Laine. I know how corny he is, but I still love him.

Funniest cowboy album...Riders In The Sky, "The Cowboy Way."


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Sabra
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 02:19 AM

YES! Finally someone mentioned Rider's In the Sky (group, not the song, although song is cool too! Everything I know about cowboy music (& neo-cowboy humour)I learned from Too Slim, Ranger Doug, and Woody Paul...can't rave enough about their hilarious radio show that NPR used to carry. Does anyone know where they might have archived recordings of it? I never heard the end of "Meltdown on the Mesa"

However,to return this post to the thread topic a bit...The Riders are great collectors of cowboy songs and their recordings are not only excellent, but a gold mine of information as well!!


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Owlkat
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 03:03 AM

Hi hi,
"Sweet Wyoming Home", by Bill Staines(but water takes it out).
Such a mellow relaxing tune to hear and sing. He's also a nice guy, which helps.
Cheers, Owl.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 03:07 AM

I can't think of any more traditional ones that haven't already been mentioned, but if you feel up to a bit of yodeling please check out Don Walser's "Cowpoke" on Archive Series, Vol II, its magic.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 04:58 AM

Oh Frankie, I'm sorry, I'm just an old cynic who did the American Indians as a school project, and upset my teacher because I mentioned syphilis - this was aged about 10.... not knowing that she was Canadian, part Huron and her great grandmother had died of same disease, given her by a white 'cowboy'during rape.

Red river valley, or at least the version I learnt, clearly has the NA telling the cowpoke that although he marries a white girl, the "red maiden loves you the best". See where I get the cycnicism?

LTS


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Timehiker
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 09:06 AM

Kat, You are right about Chris Ledoux's earlier recordings, they are more traditional than his later ones. Can't blame him for taking advantage of his commercial oportunities. I'd be willing to bet that, if you were to sit with him on his front porch, it would be the old ones he'd sing. Something about horse sweat and dust, the only way to get it out of you is to sing.

Take care, Timehiker


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Susan A-R
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 09:22 AM

Hmmm, then there's Tom Lehrer's The Wild West is Where I Wanna Be. (uh oh, I guess I'm in one of those moods today, and I haven't even finished my first cup of coffee.)


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Frankie
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 09:39 AM

Liz, no need to apologise. I'm only familiar with RRV when sung with verses similar to those found in the database, very close to the ones my mom use to sing when she was cooking dinner. If you can scare up the version you're refering to it might be a good addition to the database. At least, I'd really be interested in it. Good to see you here again.

Back on topic, the song Old Texas (goes "I'm going to leave old Texas now, They've got no use for the longhorn cow.") is one of my favorites and is in the database although I don't know of any recordings of it.

Frankie


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 10:04 AM

Has anyone mentioned Bury Me Out on the Prairie?
"Wrap me up in my blanket,
Bury me deep in the ground
Cover me over with boulders
Of granite, gray and round."

I love that lugubrious song. I always did wonder, though, about the availability of granite boulders on the prairie. Oh, well.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Big Red
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 10:43 AM

For some comic relief, try GUNSLINGER by the Limelighters.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: ddw
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 05:42 PM

I know somebody mentioned Ian Tyso's Old Corrals and Sagebrush in an earlier posting, but it was just the first of a set of "Cowboyography" albums. There are six of them, if I remember correctly and they are excellent from start to finish, tho' the first three have more traditional stuff on them, interspersed with some modern things. The second in the set was just called "Ian Tyson" and "Cowboyography" was the third. After that, all I can remember is one was called "I Outgrew The Wagon" and another was called "18 Inches of Rain." Can't think what the last one was called, but if you can find the first five you'll have a wealth of great material and probably a link to the last one.

A couple of other country artists whose stuff you might find interesting — tho' it's usually just a "filler" track in more mainstream country stuff — are John Anderson's "Sometimes an Eagle" and a bunch of Willie Nelson's stuff — Redheaded Stranger leading that pack.

Hank Williams Jr. also does one about a wrongly convicted man breaking out of a prison at Deer Lodge, Montana that's great, tho' I'm not sure of either the album it's on or the exact title. I'll do some looking when I get home and try to post more on those Monday night.

cheers

david


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,punkypony
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 05:56 PM

All this cowboy stuff reminded me of a song, I think it's called "Ghostriders In The Sky." Very haunting, recorded eons ago. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Is it famous?


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: ddw
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 06:03 PM

Just remembered the other album in Ian Tyson's cowboy series. It's called "And Stood There Amazed." The title comes from the second or third verse of "Home on the Range" — and I think it was the first time I'd ever heard anything past the first verse of that tune.

Just a by-the-by — Ian does dynamite versions of Navajo Rug and Night Rider's Lament in this series, plus a lot of other songs that have been mentioned above by other artists.

And don't take it that I'm slighting any of the other performers like Utah Phillilps and The Sons of the Pioneers — They're great too. There's also Marty Robbins, who did some great songs, albiet a little too slickly for my tastes in some instances.

cheers

david


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Callie
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 06:11 PM

Liz: are you able to post the words you know to RRV? I also never knew the real song. It was taught to us at age 8 to learn basic guitar chords.

By the way, that Don McLean song mentioned earlier is on his Live album from yonks ago. Dunno the name of the song, but it's not at all glamorous. The cowboy wants to do himself in.

--Callie


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: BlueSage
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 07:45 PM

I'm overwhelmed by the response to my plea for song suggestions. Many of the recommended songs are already in my repretoire, but many are new to me. This will give me a great place to start searching for new material. Thanks again for all great suggestions.....Mike Iverson


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: TheOldMole
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 09:22 PM

Ghost Riders in The Sky, a great song, was a pop hit for...if I remember right...crooner Vaughn Monroe.

There's also a really nice Hank, Jr. song about Doc Holliday.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Ely
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 09:46 PM

"Hills of Mexico"

"Old Chisholm Trail"

"Good-Bye, Old Paint"

"Jesse James" (Golden Ring version preferred--sorry, I grew up with it)

"Mining For Gold" (trad words, on Cowboy Junkies' _Trinity Sessions_)

Will always like N. Blake's "Billy Gray" even though I try not to fall hard for sappy songs.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,The Beanster
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 10:05 PM

Dear OldMole (love that name!) Thank you so much for answering my Ghost Riders In The Sky question. I am going on the hunt immediately! Thanx again.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: LC
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 10:50 PM

Has to be Marty Robbins', " El Paso". Being a child of the 60's & 70's I also really like Michael Murphy / Monkees , " What am I doing hangin' round ? " and Seals and Croft's, ' Dust on my saddle ". I'm 6'4" and 210 lbs, but Dan Seals' , " All that glitters " gets me misty every time I hear it.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Dan Evergreen
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 11:49 AM

Dean Martin sang two good ones in "Rio Bravo" I've never heard anywhere else: "Purple Eyes," and "My Pony My Rifle and Me."


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Rex
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 06:31 PM

Nobody mentioned "Windy Bill" yet.

Rex


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Lanfranc
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 07:20 PM

I finally remembered the name of the Don McLean song I mentioned earlier - Bronco Bill's Lament.

I forgot about El Paso, that was the first ever 45 single that I bought as a kid. OK Marty Robbins isn't folk, but that song is probably one of the better narrative western ballads.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 08:58 PM

Nope, sorry, lost them in a paper purge we had last year. All I remember is the chorus that went something like: So stay for a while ere you leave me
And ...... something like return to the West
And remember the Red River Valley,
And the maiden who loved you the best.

The verse I referred to said something like 'when you lie with the white girl you married, remember the red loved you more.... or something of that sentiment. I really wish I knew where I could find it. Mind you, there was a pretty good version on the Slim Whitman album of the same name, back in 1970something.

Of course, I am probably wrong and someone will come up with the proper version, sometime, I don't care.... I'm terrible at remembering songs anyway....

But I do remember the bit about the longhorn cow, we used to sing that at guides! Wasn't it the theme from some James Stewart film?

LTS


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: ddw
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 10:16 PM

Thumbing thru my albums today looking for the Hank Jr. tune I mentioned in my post above and found it; it's called Twodot Montana. I also came across the John Anderson tune I was trying to mention above and found — to my embarrassment — that it's really called "An Occasional Eagle," not "Sometimes An Eagle." They say the memory's the second thing to go and I can't remember what the first is....

david


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: ddw
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 10:23 PM

Thumbing thru my albums today looking for the Hank Jr. tune I mentioned in my post above and found it; it's called Twodot Montana. I also came across the John Anderson tune I was trying to mention above and found — to my embarrassment — that it's really called "An Occasional Eagle," not "Sometimes An Eagle." They say the memory's the second thing to go and I can't remember what the first is....

david|


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Frankie
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 11:28 PM

Thanks Liz, that's something to go on anyway. It sounds like a very different take on the RRV I'm used to. As for the Longorn cow song I learned it around a Texas campfire but it may well have wound up in Hollywood.

Regards, Frankie

PS Another good one is Roundup Time in Texas which has a fun, ragtimey feel to it.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 11:35 PM

I particularly like 'Tumblin Tumleweeds' because it's fairly demanding to sing well and the tune is written in three separate parts which don't follow the predictable sequence of verse, chorus, middle eight etc. It was probably written in Tin Pan Alley somewhere - does anyone know please? Regards, John


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Axeman
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 11:37 PM

Would have to be Willie Nelson's "Red Haired Stranger". Use to listen to it under the high plains night skies... bands of the Milky Way were so close we could touch 'em. -Axe'


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Metchosin
Date: 07 Mar 00 - 12:31 AM

John it was written by Nolan and as one of the Sons of the Pioneers was Bob Nolan, I would assume it was him.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 07 Mar 00 - 08:04 PM

Thanks Metchosin - I am only vaguely aware of Sons of the Pioneers. The old fashioned vocal harmonies that I've heard a long time ago were really great. Does anyone know if the harmonies are in print anywhere? Regards, John


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: TheOldMole
Date: 07 Mar 00 - 08:32 PM

Speaking of Jimmy Stewart westerns, what about the themes from "The Man From Laramie" and "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance"?


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Songster Bob
Date: 08 Mar 00 - 12:53 AM

I sing the original version of "Border Affair" ("Spanish Is the Loving Tongue"), with its unconcious racist line "She was Mex and I was white," though in performance I usually repeat the line about "They want me for that gambling fight." Whatever line I sing, it's still one of my favorite western songs.

My trio, "Sidekicks," does mostly western songs, so I've heard a lot of the ones mentioned already. Another great one is "Old Bill Pickett," about a black cowboy and rodeo star of the 20s, but it's not "beautiful" the way some of the others mentioned here are. If Sidekicks ever does a recording (more than our four-song demo, that is), more folks will have the chance to hear George Stephens sing "Blue Mountain" or "Night Riders Lament" or "Stockman's Last Bed" (an Aussie drover song). That's a treat to look forward to, as some of the DC folks can attest to.

Bob Clayton


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: BlueSage
Date: 08 Mar 00 - 01:59 PM

I'm astonished that "Blue Mountain" made this list as much as it has. I had no idea that the popularity of this "Utah" tune had spread out across the country. I learned the song about 20 years ago from a field recording in the Austin Fife archives residing at Utah State University. If anyone is passing through the southern Utah town of Monticello, stop at the city park. On the south side of the park are mounted some tubes which, when looked through, will focus your eyes on the "horse head" mentioned in the song. This is a natural feature of the mtn. and is quite interesting. I believe "Blue Mtn." is sort of the unofficial anthem of south-eastern Utah!

Mike Iverson


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Kim C
Date: 08 Mar 00 - 02:38 PM

Ohmagawd, I LOVE cowboy music. It's my true first love but believe it or not, here in Tennessee, there ain't much call for yodelers. My all-time favorite cowboy song is Michael Burton's Night Rider's Lament. I just love the lonesome feel of the song, plus it is one of the first songs I yodeled in public. So it's a little special. Also, the Great Don Edwards recorded Badger Clark's poem, "A Bad Half Hour" to the tune of "Annie Laurie." This makes me bawl no matter how many times I hear it. The downside is that I think of it whenever I perform Annie Laurie! Oh well.

I really love all the old songs, plus a bunch of the new ones (Ian Tyson & Don Edwards especially).

The Cowboy Celtic album ain't too bad.

Regards ---Kim


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Alice
Date: 08 Mar 00 - 03:19 PM

These are not necessarily my favorite cowboy songs, but I thought I would add this to the thread for those who may be interested.
I have an old 1933 songbook of songs of the West that I found in my family's stack of old sheet music. The cover is torn off, but most of the songs are there. These are songs that were popular enough out here to be included in the songbook. The Man On the Flying Trapeze may seem out of place, but it was very popular, and my grandparents used to play it at country dances.

Whoopee Ti Yi Yo, Git Along Little Dogies

Red River Valley (Liz, I've never heard the verse you mention)

The Old Chisholm Trail

The Man On The Flying Trapeez (8 verses)

Old Paint

Lonesome Cowboy

The Tenderfoot

The Dreary Black Hills

Jesse James, The Train Robbery

Oh! Susanna

Just My Gal and I

Home On The Range

Fuller and Warren

Great Grand-Dad

Hard Luck

Jack o'Diamonds

I Should Like To Marry

Frankie and Johnny

The Letter Edged in Black

That Big Rock Candy Mountain (hobo song, really)

Hand Me Down My Walking Cane

Sally In Our Alley

Hallelujah I'm A Bum

She'll Be Comin Round The Mountain

The Cowboy

Bad Company

The Big Corral

Blanche, The Pride of the Ranch

Brown Eyed Lee

Buffalo Skinners

When the Work's All Done This Fall

The Cowboy's Dream

Little Old Sod Shanty

My Love Is A Rider

The Dreary, Dreary Life

They Dying Cowboy (Bury Me Not on the Lone Prairie)

The Days of Forty Nine

Ten Thousand Cattle

Old Zip Coon (Turkey in the Straw)

Night Herding Song (Slow Dogie Slow)

Windy Bill

Utah Carroll

THe Dying Ranger

The Trail to Mexico

A Prisoner For Life

The Last Request

Sam Bass

Wait For The Wagon

Little Red Caboose Behind the Train

Billy Boy

If you need the music, let me know and I will scan and post pages to my website.

Alice Flynn in Montana


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 11:14 PM

Just happened to stumble onto this forum while searching for the lyrics to Glenn Ohrlin's "My Harding County Home". I am a college student, living away from my Harding County home (the song's true namesake and subject!)--a copy of the lyrics would mean alot to me! Much thanks in advance!


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Amos
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 11:23 PM

Well, I have always been partial to "Only a Lavender Cowboy" and (beggin' your pardons ma'ams, and present company excepted of course) "Got No Use for the Women". I love "Strawberry Roan" and the standards like "Old Paint" "The Chisholm Trail" and "Git Along, Li'l Dogies", and the probably most-shagged song of all time,. "The Streets of Laredo".

A


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 01:02 AM

Little Joe the Wrangler

Zebra Dun

Whorehouse Bells Were Ringing

Old Shep

Old Chisholm Trail (both the clean and bawdy versions)

come to mind right now.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: open mike
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:11 AM

i heard an irish song on st pat's
and the tune was st. of laredo-
any one know which song this would have been?
i forgot what the irish lyrics were, cuz when i
heard it i jsut kept thinking of that young man
with the face of clay...and the outfit of a cowboy.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:30 AM

Open Mike, probably The Bard Of Armagh,

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Jim Colbert
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 10:32 AM

You can't go wrong with virtually anything from Marty Robbins: Gunfighter Ballads and Trail songs, or Tom Russell's Cowboy Real and songs from the west. I was always fond of Art Thieme's rendering of the cowboy's barbara allen too... and Dobie bill. I guess that's more a gunfighter song that a cowboy song if you want to split horsehairs.

I'd reckon my absolute favorites, albeit not traditional, are russell's the sky above, the mud below; sonora's death row as recorded by Richard shindell (yes, don't argue with me, it was on a relatively rare sampler which is available- drop me a line if you're interested) and marty's recording of Utah Carrol.

And yes, there is at least one Sons of the Pioneers disc in print; collectors choice music has it- my wife got it for me for Christmas this year.

jim


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Midchuck
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 10:44 AM

Two new ones that I've just learned and have been singing to the point of driving those around me crazy:

Bandolier, by Jack Hardy, off his new CD of the same title.

Mick Ryan's Lament, from the Tim O'Brien Two Journeys CD. (The melody is "Garryowen>")

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 10:49 AM

if you go to Rose, the Record Lady, you can HEAR many cowboy and C&W songs....many means several thousand! click here to see a list by title.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Wesley S
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:17 AM

Theres a new CD out entitled "High Lonesome Cowboy" by Peter Rowan and Don Edwards. They are joined by Tony Rice and Norman Blake. I can't recommend it enough. I'm sure you'll like it. Great cowboy songs with a bit of a bluegrass edge to it.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: ard mhacha
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:47 AM

I had an old recording of Woody Guthrie singing , I ride an old paint, which I always liked, and then I heard Linda Ronstadt singing this song a few weeks ago, pure magic.
So ,Old Paint is tops, Bing Crosby singing, Home on the Range,
and Hank Williams, I`m so lonesome I could cry, pure poetry. Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Amos
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:54 AM

Actually, I have loved Night Rider's Lament ever since I learned it from Mudjack last summer.

A


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: alinact
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 12:18 PM

A couple of Steve Goodman songs, Roving Cowboy and Spoon River, would fit very nicely.

Allan


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: BUTTERFLY
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 12:55 PM

Dave Oesterreich (5.3.2000) mentioned the song "Bury Me Out on the Prairie" with lyrics:

"Wrap me up in my blanket,
Bury me deep in the ground
Cover me over with boulders
Of granite, gray and round."

This seems to come from "I've No Use for the Women". Although not deeply into Cowboy songs this is one of the best tunes in the "Cowboy Song" section of a CD-ROM I purchased from Rod Smith in England not too long back (it contains the lyrics and music for over 6,000 songs, mainly folk-oriented, for less than £20 (c. $30). The other nice tunes in this section have mostly been mentioned either under the same names as on the CD-ROM, eg "Trail to Mexico", "Streets of Laredo" or others, eg "Stern Old Bachelor" is presumably the same as "Little Sod Shanty". However 2 very nice ones ("Hell in Texas" and "Sioux Indians") have not been mentioned by anyone yet. Some of these songs are on the website www.traditionalmusic.co.uk though unfortunately many have had to be removed from the website "due to restrictions on band width". Worth checking this out (I have no connection with Mr. Smith other than as a satisfied customer.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 12:59 PM

Woody's great song "Philadelphia Lawyer" is in the DT.
This was one cowboy that you didn't mess with!


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Jim Colbert
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 01:58 PM

Boy, I never really thought of Spoon river (written by Mike smith, I believe) to be a cowboy/western song... but I can see how you could due to the time frame.

Did Masters have a specific time frame in mind? I honestly can't recall.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Mudlark
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 04:16 PM

For good old-fashioned country-western sentimentality there is nothing better than the Mom and Dad Waltz. On a lighter but more lugubrious note, Tyson's Darcy Farrow. And I think Pancho and Lefty is one of the great all-time western theme songs. Also, Oklahoma Hills (Way down yonder in the Indian Nation...) by Jack Guthrie is fun to sing, ditto All Along the Water Tower, by I think Jimmie Rogers?


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 05:44 PM

at Rose, the Record Lady's site mentioned above, you can hear two
versions of "Oklahoma Hills" (am I pushing Rose? *grin*...you betcha!)


'Oklahoma Hills' - Hank Thompson (A-8)
'Oklahoma Hills' - Jack Guthrie (A-8)


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: BanjoRay
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 06:06 PM

How come nobody's mentioned The Tennessee Stud, written by Jimmy Driftwood and performed by Doc Watson on the Will The Circle Be Unbroken album? Totally perfect musical poetry, with superb guitar picking!
Ray


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Bruce
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 07:42 PM

Buddies in the Saddle, Carter Family


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 10:14 PM

I'd like to add a couple of others "I'd Like To In Texas For the Roundup In The Spring", "That's How The Girls Are In Texas" and this one "Brown Eyed Lee"

Brown Eyed Lee

Kind friends if you will listen a story I will tell
About the final bustup that happened down in Bell
I courted a brown eyed maiden' known by the name of Lee
And when I popped the question, she said she'd marry me.

I went and bought the license March eighteen ninety nine
Expecting in a few days the darling would be mine
Her mother grew quite angry and said it could not be
She said she had another, picked out for Brown eyed Lee.

She talked to friends and neighbors, and said that she would fight,
She'd get her old six-shooter out and put old Red to flight.
But lovers laugh at shooters, and the old she-devil, too.
I said I'd have my darling, if she did not prove untrue.

I borrowed Dad's old buggy and got Jim's forty-one.
And started down to Kerns's, thinking I would have some fun.
I'm not the one to craw-fish when I am in a tight;
I said "I'll have my angel and not be put to flight.

I went on down to Kerns's with the devil in my head,
I said "I'll have my darling, or I'll leave the old folks dead."
Good fortune fell upon me, my darling proved untrue.
I gave her back her letters, and bid her a fond adieu.

I pressed her to my aching heart kissed her a last farewell,
And prayed a permanent prayer to God to send her Ma to hell.
I sold my cows to J.M.G. my corn to K.M.P
And cursed the day I first met that darling brown eyed Lee.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 10:21 AM

Butterfly mentioned "I've Got No Use For The Women". It's in the DT, at
THIS LOCATION

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Beccy
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 10:56 AM

I luh-uh-uh-uhve, The Rivers of Texas, as recorded by Bill Staines.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Mr Happy
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 11:28 AM

i've a few sogs of this genre in my current repetoire.

4 legged fiend, abilene, fulsom prison, lonesome pie, cool water


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Banjoman
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 12:30 PM

Lots og great songs, but if you want one that pokes a bit of fun at the old west while still hitting a hard message, listen to Debby Mclatchey singing "Seeing the Elephant" Its on one of her early LP's and I don't know who wrote it.
Good Luck with your search


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,boromir
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 01:27 PM

The best cowboy song ever written was Blue Shadows on the Trail by Johnny Lange and Eliot Daniel.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Beccy
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 01:29 PM

Boromir- Did you ever hear Martin Short, Steve Martin and Chevy Chase (I kid you not...) do that one?

Beccy


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Hrothgar
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 02:36 AM

Depending on the mood I'm in -

Goodnight-Loving Trail
Colorado Trail
Little Joe the Wrangler
Home on the Range
Red River Valley
I Ride an Old Paint (yep, Ard Macha, love Ronstadt's version)


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 08:53 AM

There was a song - I think it was written by Ian Petrie, which had the chorus:

You can tell all your friends when you heat those hoofbeats thrum,
That the nearest thing to Silver is the Lone Ranger's Bum.

I'll try and find the rest.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Mudlark
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 04:48 PM

Beccy...Re Blue Shadows and The Three Amigos...they did a pretty good job of it too, I thought. Not too shabby with My Little Buttercup either, dance routine not withstanding!


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: JedMarum
Date: 07 May 06 - 04:54 PM

KIM C - yourcomments re: annie laurie and the lament ... I played teh Sam Houston Folk Fest just a couple weeks ago with Don Edwards and some very very fine cowboy singers. Don did a just beautiful version of this song. With a 1000 people at the festival, you could have heard a pin drop while he was singing. It was something to behold.

Great song and lovely tie from the cowbiy to this fine old Scottish song!


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Lucyann
Date: 12 Apr 08 - 07:25 PM

Does anyone have the lyrics for this song? I know that Ed Trickett sings it. A Bad Half Hour" to the tune of "Annie Laurie."


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: fumblefingers
Date: 12 Apr 08 - 09:31 PM

"Ridin' Down The Canyon." Roy Rogers and Smiley Burnette sang it, among others.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Apr 08 - 01:14 AM

Guest, Lucyann,

Usually it is best to start a whole new thread to request lyrics. You did a good job of finding a related thread, though.:-) Anyway, I have started a thread for you with the word of Badger Clark's poem, which Don Edwards set to Annie Laurie. You can find the thread by clicking HERE.

Welcome to the Mudcat.

kat


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: open mike
Date: 13 Apr 08 - 02:17 AM

One I discovered this year was "Corn Water and Wood" and Christmas Song.
It is by Carol Elliot and has been sung by Riders in the Sky, Michael Martin Murphey, Bryndle and others.

Also one called the Gift by Stephanie Davis. Another Christmas one.

There is a song called the Gift by Ian Tyson, too, about Charles M. Russell.

I also like to perform another Canadian song -- Cowboy Christmas by
Connie Kaldor and BIM.

And a poem from Austrailian whose name i forget...not banjo patterson.. When the Children Come Home..oh yes, Henry Lawson...

And another song by a Canadian...Garnet Rogers...about a horse that he got at auction and she was destined for the glue factory. She gave birth to a colt which was named Victory.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Amos
Date: 13 Apr 08 - 04:24 AM

High Chin Bob, a great modern cowboy ballad.


A


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: horace hockey
Date: 13 Apr 08 - 07:19 AM

Without a doubt, my favorite is Streets of Laredo. I am just a beginner on banjo but hope to someday create a song about the American Mustang. I am activity director of the Indiana Mustang and Burro association. Our group supports the BLM adoption program.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Apr 08 - 08:40 AM

my favorite is "a border affair" by charles badger clark.....also known as "spanish is a loving tongue".....back in the early 60's, ian tyson cleaned it up by getting rid of the inter racial relationship at its core....he also reversed some words in the last verse....seems that every person that I've heard do this since then has the last verse screwed up (thanx to mr tyson).....he sings, "left my heart and lost her own"



Spanish is the loving tongue                        
Soft as music, light as spray                        
Was a girl I learned it from                         
Living down Sonora way                         
I don't look much like a lover                        
Yet I say her love words over                        
Often when I'm all alone                                
Mi amore mi Corazon                         


Nights when she knew where I'd ride
She would listen for my spurs
Fling the big door open wide
Raise them laughin' eyes of hers
And my heart would not stop beating
When I heard her tender greeting
Whispered soft for me alone
Mi amore mi Corazon

Moonlight in the patio
Old Senora nodding near
Me and Juana talking low
So the Madre couldn't hear
How those hours would go a-flyin'
And too soon I'd hear her sighin'
In her little sorry tone
Adios mi Corazon

But one time I had to fly
For a foolish gamblin' fight,
And we said a swift goodbye
In that black unlucky night
When I'd loosed her arms from clingin'
With her words the hoofs kept ringin'
As I galloped north alone
Adios mi Corazon

Never seen her since that night
I can't cross the Line, you know
She was Mex and I was white
Like as not it's better so
Yet I've always sort of missed her
Since that last wild night I kissed her
Left her heart and lost my own
Adios mi Corazon


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Leadfingers
Date: 13 Apr 08 - 08:46 AM

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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,richard
Date: 09 Sep 10 - 11:51 PM

been trying to get a copy of 78" record that i bought in uk in 1950s that had this ssong on one side and In 1992 on the flip.
Does anyone remeber them or who sang them?


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,richard
Date: 09 Sep 10 - 11:55 PM

"The little red caboose behind the train/ In 1992 " - anyone remember or got the 78" that came out in 50s/60s? I bought it in Uk but lost it.
who were the group that sang the songs?


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 03:33 AM

It is impossible for me to pick a single cowboy/western song or singer. The one that I sing most often is Woody's Philadelphia Lawyer but Marty Robbins' collection of Gunfighter Ballads sets the bar! Then you have the old western movie stars like Gene Autry, Roy Rogers, Tex Ritter, Rex Allan etc. Wilf Carter (aka Montana Slim) lived the life about which he sang and to a degree Ian Tyson as well. There was just too much great stuff to pick a single preference! Roy Rogers was my cowboy hero when I was a kid and he holds the distinction of being twice inducted into the Country Music Hall Of Fame, once as himself and once as a founding member of the Sons Of The Pioneers. So much great stuff over the years but sadly there are few recording artists today who come even close and that is a pity!


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: kendall
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 04:02 AM

Probably the saga of Billy Venero. It was in my high school English text book.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 05:27 AM

Cowboy music and poetry is alive and well today. There are many festivals which feature these performers. and the Western Jubilee Recording company http://www.westernjubilee.com/ features some fine examples..Don Edwards and many more. One such festival is in December...www.Montereycowboy.org which is coming up Dec 10-11-12 2010 or the National Cowboy Gathering in Elko in Jan. 26-29 2011. There are some video and audio recordings on the website www.westernfolklife.org. (see cybercast) By far my favorite song is
http://www.nightriderslament.com/ by Michael Burton.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST,Henryp
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 06:04 AM

Doney Gal

A cowboy's life is a weary thing
For it's rope and brand and ride and sing
Yes, day or night, in the rain and hail
He'll stay with his dogies out on the trail

It's rain or shine, sleet or snow,
Me and my Doney Gal are on the go
Yes, rain or shine, sleet or snow,
Me and my Doney Gal are bound to go

from Our Singing Country, John and Alan Lomax


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: frogprince
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 10:27 AM

Another case of a vintage thread revived in an off-the-wall way, but I really enjoyed reading thru this. A lot of songs I love were cited. I don't know that anyone mentioned "Colorado Trail"; Anne Hills, Cindy Mangsen, and Priscilla Herdman have a recording that I consider just achin' beautiful.
The first time I ever fell in love with a song, it was "Strawberry Roan" as sung by Gene Autry. About 1969, I discovered Cisco Houston's recording of "Zebra Dun". A few years ago THIS came together in my head.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Desi C
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 11:29 AM

How about some of the Sons Of The Pioneers, recordings, Tumbling Timbleweeds, Ghost Riders In the Sky etc. Shenendoah (across the wide missouri) is good. 4 Legged Friend, Roy Rogers. Banks Of The Old Ponchertrain, Old Log Train, both Hank Wiliams. Streets Of Laredo, Marty Robins and El Paso. Good luck, need reviving many of the old western songs

Desi C


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Art Thieme
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 06:44 PM

Some that I sang often and/or put on records:

Billy Vanero
The State of Illinois (Move Your Family Westward)
Cowboy's Barbara Allen (from Del Bray in Cheyenne-1962)
Blue Mountain
Bury Me Not On The Lone Prairie
The Cherokee Queen by Carl Oglesby--via Utah Phillips)
Gonna Leave Old Texas Now
The Big Combine--by Jock Coleman-1919-from Glenn Ohrlin
The Red River Shore
The Portland County Jail
The Wilderness Road--Jimmy Morris Driftwood
The Kansas Cyclone
Night Rider's Lament--by Michael Burton
Sioux Indians
When I Was a Cowboy
Goodnight-Loving Trail by Utah
Colorado Trail
Riding Down The Canyon
Zack the Mormon Engineer
East Texas Red--by Woody Guthrie
Blowin' Down That Old Dusty Road
Nine Hundred Miles
The Santa Fe Trail
The Cowboy Fireman (from Mac McClintock)
I'd Like To Be In Brooklyn (For the Blackouts In The Spring)
    by Craig Johnson


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Andy Jackson
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 06:58 PM

I just started a new thread ( American Museum in Britain) and just below I see this thread. I rest my case!!


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Art Thieme
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 07:01 PM

Hey, I forgot one I did all the time:

The Ballad of 'Dobe Bill (learned from a Folkways LP by Cisco Houston)

This was printed by John Lomax in his book as "The Killer"

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 07:47 PM

What day is it? Tomorrow the favorite song will be different. What is the last song I heard? That is probably my favorite...for now.

Bar none (no that's not a ranch) The Sons of the Pioneers is my favorite singer. My laptop contains the contents of six LPs and and twelve CDs of SOP, Roy Rogers (w/ and w/o SOP) and a Bob Nolan solo CD.
I have culled duplicate recordings, but have as many as five different renditions of some songs. This are from different iterations of the group over the years, radio transcriptions, etc. iTunes tells me I have 157 unique recordings that if played straight through would take over six-and-a-half hour to complete.

There are are many current and recent singers of the genre. Don Edwards, Michal Martin Murphey, Brenn Hill, a reconstituted Riders of the Purple Sage, Dave Stamey, Justis and the Montanas and the late Chris LeDoux come quickly to mind. They are every bit as good as the performers of the 30s and 40s, and have better technology. Too, there are scores of amateurs and semi-pros, often quite good and original, that we only hear as ancillary acts at festivals.

Cowboy Music Forever!


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 08:11 PM

A Border Affair (Spanish is a Loving Tongue).

Or I could list a bunch, Art Thieme's for a start.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Midchuck
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 10:07 PM

That's funny. I was reading this thread, and wondered why I didn't mention any of the great songs on Tom Russell's "Indians Cowboys Horses Dogs" CD. Then I noticed that I last posted to this thread in 2003. That CD was released in early '04. Duhhhh. Mudcat messes up your time sense.

"Tonight We Ride" is one of my favorite songs ever. Joyfully antiheroic. I'm also very fond of "No Telling," by Linda Thompson, which Tom made into a cowboy song by changing just a few words (with her blessing, as I understand it). I'd have sung it at Kendall and Jacqui's wedding if I'd been there and nobody had suppressed me.

There is also a wonderful cover of "Lily, Rosemary, and the Jack of Hearts," done by Russell, Joe Ely, and Eliza Gilkyson performing as a committee; one of "East Texas Red," and one of Marty Robbins' "El Paso," which is probably the only cover that doesn't really measure up - but then the original came out at an impressionable time in my life, and I'm sentimental about it. And Tom didn't have Grady Martin.

Also two settings by Tom of Paul Zarzyski poems, "Bucking Horse Moon" and "All This Way for the Short Ride," and a very funny song about Edward Abbey, using the tune of "Buffalo Skinners."

My ten CDs for a desert island would include this one, "Cowboyography" and "Gunfighter Ballads and Trail Songs." That leaves only seven for all other genres. I could be in trouble.

Peter


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 11:02 PM

frogprince, did you post that a few years ago? I started reading it to my Rog and he recognised it immediately. Well-written!

We'd missing out, big time, without a mention of Mudcatter, Rex's, Jack Thorp's Songs of the Cowboys. It is a wondrous collection done on period instruments with some real favourites.

I love them all, all that Art Thieme has done and all that my dad raised us on including Billy Venero, Zebra Dun, Little Joe the Wrangler, and a bunch more!


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Slag
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 01:01 AM

Not mentioned thus far:

Pennsylvania Pal

You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma

The Master's Call

The Ballad of Bonnie and Clyde

Blue Shadows

Curly Joe From Idaho

Cattle Call

Irving, The Hundred and Twenty-second Fastest Gun in the West
    (Which is a spoof on Loren Greene's "Ringo")


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Amos
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 01:52 AM

Buffalo Skinners and Diamond Joe also. High-Chinned Bob.

You know this thread was running strong in 2000. That was ten years ago. How'd I get glued to this Mudcat cayuse for ten damn years???


A


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Acme
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 02:36 AM

Ed McCurdy singing "Strawberry Roan" is about as good as it gets. Unless it is just about anybody singing "Streets of Laredo" (see all of the discussions of the roots of this song scattered around Mudcat).


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: frogprince
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 06:42 PM

SRS, have you heard Amos sing cowboy-type stuff; don't remember right now if Strawberry Roan was included in what I've heard linked, but I'll wager Amos wouldn't do it wrong; he has to have hoss shit on the one boot and longhorn shit on the tother.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: olddude
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 09:38 PM

Art Thieme doing Billy Vanaro


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Beer
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 10:55 PM

Sweet Baby James


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 02:26 AM

Check out some of the albums by Ernie Sites

http://erniesites.com/index2.shtml

Eddie1 (between laptops cos my last one was stolen)


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Slag
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 06:13 AM

Yes SRS, Strawberry Roan is the quintessential western song. It captures the dialect, history, status of the American cowboy. It's a real slice of life.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 11:31 AM

I have just put one of my two favourites, The Santa Fe Trail, and am planning to put the other, I'm Bound to Follow the Longhorn Cows, on my youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/mgmyer


OK ~~ so I'm not a cowboy. I'm not even American. I have spent a total of approx 12 days of my life in the West [California, Utah, Arizona, Nevada], riding around in a Discovery America coach.

Want to make something of it? How fast can you draw!?

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: topical tom
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 12:36 PM

When It's Roundup Time in Texas and the Cactus is in Bloom, especially as sung by Suzie Boguss.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: chazkratz
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 04:30 PM

Let's see--there's the theme song from "Blazing Saddles" and "I'm an Old Cow Hand (From the Rio Grand).
And seriously, has anyone mentioned "Don't Fence Me In" or Woodie's "The Range of the Buffalo"?

Charles


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Artful Codger
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 05:38 PM

Alla en el Rancho Grande (Lorenzo Barcelata, 1925)
When It's Nighttime in Nevada (Pascoe, Dumage, Clint, 1931)
I'm a Texas Cowboy (trad.)
Keep Smiling, Old Pal (trad.)

Most of my favorites are the REAL cowboy songs, from before the radio/movie/rhinestone cowboy days, but they're the usual suspects, already listed. Elsewise, my favorites are (false modesty aside) old cowboy era poems I put tunes to myself, like:

Batchin' (Charles Badger Clark, 1915)
Coyote (Bret Harte, 1869)
Cowboy's Wild Song to His Herd (Wesley Beggs, 1912)
Old Buck's Ghost (Frank Benton, 1903)
Disheartened Ranger (M.B. Smith, ca. 1874)
Night Herding Song (Harry Stephens, 1909)

The Carter Family sang an uninspiring version of "Cowboy's Wild Song," and you can find several tunes to "Night Herding Song"--notably, Don Edwards does it--, but I'm unaware of previous settings for the other poems. I've set some others, but for me personally they're second-stringers, not as likely to burst forth from the shower unless I'm trying to refresh my memory of them. Yup, that's my criterion for favorites: which are rusty from the shower?

I used to groan at "O Bury Me Not" till I ran across a great old tune for it in a minor mode. Now I sing it interleaving the two tunes, and it's become a shower song. (Course, by the time I'm finished, so is the hot water.)

I've also come to enjoy "Home on the Range," "Red River Valley" and some other songs I was conditioned to snub as a boy--they're really quite nice once you get past the done-to-death bits.


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: olddude
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 05:41 PM

Art Thieme - San Fe Trail
or Art Thieme - Barbara Ellen (cowboy version)

or Art Thieme - Blue Mountain

(I am kinda prejudiced) :-)


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: olddude
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 05:49 PM

And this one really presses my buttons . It is our very own Amos doing Sweet Wyoming Home

Superb
Amos Sweet Wyoming Home


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: chazkratz
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 06:48 PM

Oh, one note: Mike Iverson, who started this thread, isn't one to blow his own horn but the guy is a great banjo player and has perhaps the best free banjo instruction site on the web, loaded with tunes with both sound files and tabs:

http://www.bluesageband.com/Tabs.html

Charles


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Sep 10 - 03:11 AM

I had an old 78 about 50 years ago of a song called "The Covered Wagon Lullaby" and its driving me wild trying to remember who recorded it. Any of you cowboys know? Was it Tex Ritter? Meanwhile, Arlo Guthrie does a nice little number called "Lay down, Little Dogies" which I think he wrote himself.
                      Happy Trails, Ye All


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: Desi C
Date: 15 Sep 10 - 08:02 AM

Cool Water by Sons Of The Pioneers is a favourite


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Subject: RE: Your favorite cowboy/western folk songs
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 15 Sep 10 - 02:05 PM

Guest @3:11AM asked about The Covered Wagon Lullaby. A quick Google found a YouTube video from Oz. Also, Josef Marais, international folk singer of the 1940s and '50s recorded a song by that title

I don't know, but this may not be a song of the American west, and I don't Know where this guest is from...one of the problems of being a guest.

Try this & good luck.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm1rIXZWIm0    The Barry Sisters of Australia.


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