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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Mar 06 - 01:04 PM Joe, would you say something about old threads being closed now (for site tech reasons I guess) and that you can be PMed to ask that they be re-opened? ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Brass Monkey Date: 19 Mar 06 - 02:52 PM How do you create a complete new subject for a thread? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Changing Post Subject Lines From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Mar 06 - 02:59 PM You can change the subject line of your post, but not the thread title-- look in the text box at the top of the compose window, and at the subject line of my reply to you. The trick you learn after being here awhile is, when it is a good idea to start a new thread as an offshoot, and when not. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Joe Offer Date: 19 Mar 06 - 08:41 PM If it's a completely new topic, use the create a new thread link on the Forum Menu - but use the Filter or search engine to check to see if your topic already has a thread you can resurrect. There are some old threads that were closed for housecleaning purposes, particularly old "BS" threads. They can be reopened as needed - just ask. In some closed threads, it's obvious that they were closed because of contentiousness or obnoxiousness or repetition - generally, we don't reopen those. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Mrs_Annie Date: 12 Jul 06 - 03:57 AM I followed the link to Members photos and info above, and was fascinated. I can't see how to get there from the home page, can you tell me? Also how can one put ones own information into these pages? thanks |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Joe Offer Date: 12 Jul 06 - 01:21 PM Hi, Mrs. Annie - Our member photos and information are available only to registered Mudcatters - you can send photos and get added to the e-mail list by contacting our Tech Guru, Pene Azul, jeff@mudcat.org Jeff can also help you set up a profile. Member Photos & Info is a link on our QuickLinks dropdown menu, which you'll find on most Mudcat pages. -Joe Offer-
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Mo the caller Date: 24 Nov 06 - 08:39 AM I want to start a thread and am not sure how many characters I have for the title. The links advising on how to start a thread dont tell me. (must admit I've not gone all through this thread.) So I risk being unnecessarily terse, or having it chopped, and either way not making much sense. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Sorcha Date: 24 Nov 06 - 09:07 AM You can change it UNTIL you go to the actual text box. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: wysiwyg Date: 24 Nov 06 - 09:09 AM You will know when you start the thread, because only what will fit wiill show up on the screen that comes after "Create" and before "Post." You can estimate what will fit by setting the filter to 3 or 7 days' worth of threads, and look for the longest thread title showing. Try that number of characters for a start. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Mo the caller Date: 24 Nov 06 - 09:17 AM Yes, I did that Susan. I still think it would be helpful if the instructions on starting a thread told you though. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Nov 06 - 10:06 AM Although it would be helpful I suppose, its not a big deal and there are several tricks you can use to get more in. For instance, eliminate spaces when possible by capitalizing.....like this: Suppose you want to start a thread with the title: Harry Legg craps real big in his pants You can save a lot and it will be very legible in the title page like this: HarryLeggCrapsRealBigInHisPants Eliminating "Real" would save even more of course. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Nov 06 - 08:26 PM It's kind of a trial-and-error thing, Mo, so I can't really post an explanation (or maybe it would be more honest to say that I don't really know the answer...) ALLCAPS titles take up more space, so fewer letters are allowed. If your title includes a preponderance of lowercase letter "i," you can fit in lots of letters. If it's mostly uppercase "M," you're not so lucky. If the title doesn't turn out the way you want it, contact me, or one of your friendly local JoeClones. Oh, and please note that we don't usually allow ALLCAPS in thread titles, although there may be exceptions at times. We also expect titles to be reasonably specific, and to reflect what's in the thread. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: Anonymous Posting From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Jan 07 - 03:36 PM From now on, anonymous posting will be watched and controlled. We've had far too many problems with anonymous posters. If you want to post, use a consistent name. We're not requiring registration, although we certainly prefer that. You may certainly use a pseudonym as a user name, but please use that same name every time you post. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: Objectionable Messages From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Jan 07 - 03:55 PM I see forum messages here and there, questioning why Mudcat "allowed" a certain message and deleted another. We don't "allow" any messages - we allow posting, and we don't do full review of all messages to determine if they are suitable or not. If we see messages or threads that are causing a problem, we deal with them. If I receive e-mails or personal messages complaining about a specific message, I review the message and make a determination - and I ordinarily respond directly to the person who made the complaint. I do not feel bound to respond to complaints (particularly anonymous complaints) that are posted in the Forum or the Help Forum. If you have a complaint, contact me directly by personal message or by e-mail. My e-mail address is joe@mudcat.org. You can also contact Jeff and Max on these matters, but I'm the one who's most readily available. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Azizi Date: 16 Jan 07 - 08:48 AM Joe, I have several questions to ask about posting lyrics to songs. 1. If the purpose of the post is to explore the meaning of the lyrics, or to explore the meanings of a particular line of a lyric-for instance "people keep comin but the train done gone-in the RE: Religious Train & Chariot Songs thread- a} is it appropriate to post the lyrics of that song even if it is already posted in another thread? b}And if so, since the purpose of the post is not to add lyrics, but to share theories about the meaning of those lyrics, should that specific post have the title "Lyr Add: [name of song]? 2.If the purpose is to compare and contrast versions of songs- a} is it appropriate to post the lyrics to more than one version in the same song in the same post? b} If so, should the Lyr: Add: title be used? Should there be a new title? {such as "Lyr: Compare: titles"} 3.{similar to #3}, if the purpose is to list or compare songs from different genres that may have the same or similar floating verses or lines, or which appear to share some other element{s} a} is it appropriate to start a new thread on that subject? b} is it appropriate to post all of the lyrics or portions of the lyrics to those songs even if those lyrics are are already posted in another Mudcat thread, or should there just be a hyperlink to the thread which contains those already posted lyrics, followed by new commentary? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Azizi Date: 16 Jan 07 - 09:10 AM Also, I have some questions regarding posting hyperlinks to YouTube and/or other videos of songs: 1.Should there be a new title for this {such as "Video: Add: title" or "Vid: Add: title"? 2.Should each link to a video be posted separately, or can links to multiple videos of versions of the same song or similar songs be provided in the same post? 3. Should links to a video that is posted in one thread be reposted to Permathreads? For instance, I posted a link to the video "Mary Had A Baby" in the "African American Christmas Carol" thread. I believe that I also posted that same link on the "YouTube VideoPermathread". Should I have done so? And should I have also posted a link to that same video on the African American Spirituals Permathread? ** Also, here is a portion of my post in response to Susan's recent post about the African American Spirituals Permathread: I have not yet posted any video links to the African American Spirituals Permathread. However, if it is appropriate, I can post those links to videos I have included in other threads, if this would help. Also, if this will help, I will go back and correct the way I have titled individual posts that have lyrics to an African American spiritual and/or gospel song. Furthermore, I will post the thread number where those songs are found in the African American Spirituals Permathread and will henceforth to the best of my ability and understanding follow the Mudcat rules for titling posts. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: wysiwyg Date: 16 Jan 07 - 09:53 AM Azizi, I just want to address this: I posted a link to the video "Mary Had A Baby" in the "African American Christmas Carol" thread. I believe that I also posted that same link on the "YouTube VideoPermathread". Should I have done so? And should I have also posted a link to that same video on the African American Spirituals Permathread? Using this example, what would be really helpful to people would be to post the "Mary Had A Baby" video link on the existing "Mary Had A Baby" thread. In that case there would be no need to post about it in the Spirituals permathread itself. OR an alternative that would be acceptable would be to post the link, the song title, and the thread number where the song is discussed, in the Spirituals permathread. The goal is that people can easily find material related to the song, without assuming that the person will have known about your newer thread or that they will know, again using this example, that in December of 2006 there was a thread about "African American Christmas Carols" where they might find additional information or examples for that song. Also, if the "African American Christmas Carols" thread does include a number of spirituals, of course I want to include a link to it in the Spirituals index, so it would be really helpful for that thread title and thread number to be posted in the Spirituals permathread. I'd probebly put it HERE where there is a list of "KEY RESOURCES AT MUDCAT ABOUT SPIRITUALS." Looking forward to this, ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Azizi Date: 16 Jan 07 - 10:44 AM Susan, I have begun to review my postings and put information on the African American Spirituals Permathread as I understood you to outline in your recent BS thread about that Permathread. As I was doing this, I noticed this question was posted from GUEST,Will Greene: "Would it not be simpler to compile a list of these threads and then PM them all to the Permathread co-ordinator instead of posting each one in the Music section?" -snip- If you prefer me to compile information from all of the threads that I have posted video links or lyrics of African American spirituals and gospels to since I joined Mudcat two years ago, I can do it that way. However, that will take time, and I can't say when I can get that to you. Please let me know way you prefer to get this information. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: wysiwyg Date: 16 Jan 07 - 12:02 PM I answered Will's question where he asked it. A simpler way to understand the goal of correct titling of subject lines is to look at this example: Q's Posts If you will just click to bring upo that page, you'll see it's quite easy to use that search feature to sort his new material from his replies to exisiting material, and to use Find in Page to quickly determine if he has posted a lyric one might be in need of finding. About 90% of what's now in the permathread index was found in old threads by doing that with the posting history of several aficionados of the genre, when we started that permathread. Volunteers each took on particular keywords and posting histories to compile the index. Therefore, if you adopt that convention, your posting history can be linked in the permathread as a quick way of mining your research for valuable gems. I know it's a lot of work-- I remember how long it took ME to do the searches I did as my part of compiling that index! Just let us know what you can do, and I will seek out volunteers to pick up the slack on the old posts, as long as the future posting will be done as we've discussed. Thanks! Going to be offline now for a bit-- ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Joe Offer Date: 16 Jan 07 - 07:41 PM Hmmm. So many questions, so little time. In general, I see no problem with re-posting lyrics for the sake of discussion, but it should be made clear that the lyrics came from the DT or from another thread. It's ALWAYS important to identify the source when posting lyrics. In general, the principle with MUSIC information from other sites is to copy-paste the entire text of whatever it is - within reason, of course. For non-music information, post a summary or excerpts, plus a link. For Youtube stuff or other online audio or video, I think it would be good to post a summary of the information shown in the link. That's probably true for ANY information you link to - summaries are good. That especially goes for YouTube, because some of us rural hicks don't have broadband and can't access YouTube. -Joe, Thank God I'm a Country Boy- |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: wysiwyg Date: 16 Jan 07 - 08:04 PM Thanks, Joe, I think Azizi and I are off to a good start on how she can help ensure that her contributions are represented in the Spirituals Permathread, and why subject titling is important. We can work it out from there, I think. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Azizi Date: 16 Jan 07 - 08:37 PM Thanks for your response to my questions, Joe. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: katlaughing Date: 16 Jan 07 - 09:10 PM "Country Joe McOffer!" |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Mar 07 - 05:43 PM Joe, I see you've made some changes in that privacy/security stuff since I last looked-- I like it. Some people are not aware that when a change is made within a permathread, the thread does not necessarily refresh back onto the daily threadlist. (I learned this in my own work on the Spirituals permathread.) This is because if a change is made in a post already occupying the thread, it doesn't constitute a "new" post and therefore doesn't bring the thread back up. I found that quite disconcerting at first with the Spirituals permathread, when I did a LOT of work to reorganize and update it and yet it remained off the day's threadlist as if I hadn't done a thing. But I got used to it quite soon. Now I like being able to work on that project without necessarily inviting all of Mudcat to insert jokes or other comments into the middle of what I may spend several days re-coding and re-writing before the whole is ready for public consumption. What it means, though, is that we can't take the permathreads for granted and assume that we necessarily know what-all is inside them-- we have to be grownups about it and actually look at them to see what's current. IMO that's a good thing. ~Susan Or when there's new stuff on a PermaThread, post a "refresh" message to move it to the Forum Menu, and delete it later when it's no longer needed. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: GUEST,Dave Date: 07 Mar 07 - 06:05 PM How can I update or submit a link for the links section (e.g. for 'composers') Also, How can I submit photo and profile info; thought I did this correctly (via email), but it's been about a month and I haven't seen any updates. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Joe Offer Date: 07 Mar 07 - 06:33 PM Hi, Dave - you have to be a registered user and logged in to submit links (then go to "submit"), or to access Mudcat photos. If you're registered and want to have your photo, profile, or e-mail included in the Photo section, e-mail it to Pene Azul, jeff@mudcat.org. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: EuGene Date: 20 Jun 07 - 01:30 PM Golly, I am new here and read all of this FAQ thread . . . lotsa good info here, but unfortunately I am very computer illiterate so I will probably mess up a lot trying to learn what it all means and how to work the system. I googled onto this forum while searching for Folk and Blues music score & parts sets, either to order or to download and print out. I hit this forum twice when I googled "Golden Vanity" and then "Red River Valley", two of the songs our little community band would like to play. We are Ozark hillbillies, so I can identify with "Country Boy" Joe on that score. Does the DT have just the basic melody & chords for the tunes, or does it also sometimes also have stuff that a typical concert band (with the usual complement of woodwinds, brass, and percussion)can play? Eu |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Amos Date: 20 Jun 07 - 02:00 PM Typically the DIgital Tradition database contains lyrics and sometimes can provide a link to a MIDI file to demonstrate the tune. The Forum discussion threads, however, often have rich discussions which include chords, usually geared to the needs of an individual guitarist. I don't know of any concert arrangements! :D A |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: EuGene Date: 20 Jun 07 - 02:26 PM Thanx, Amos. I could see from the nice long thread about the origin of "Red River Valley" that there are a lot of folks coming to this site for the lyrics to songs and discussions about same. I wasn't sure, however, if the participants were folk singers, bluegrass group members, guitar pickers, or what, but there's room for all genres, even us old fogies in small community bands. "My Bunnie lice soda devotion, . . ." Eu |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: topical tom Date: 02 Nov 07 - 10:28 AM How can I create a "blue clicky" (or other colour) on Mudcat?
I find it's best to open a new browser window [CTRL-N] and navigate your way to the site you want to link to. Highlight and copy [CTRL-C] the URL (address) of the site, and then go back to your Mudcat message and paste [CTRL-V] the URL into your link. Be sure to include the http:// in that URL. The quotation marks are standard procedure, but most links work just fine without quotation marks. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Joe Offer Date: 16 Nov 07 - 01:07 PM Mudcat Photos (click)(Temporary Location)send photos for posting to joe@mudcat.org |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: edarem Date: 29 Nov 07 - 11:26 PM Dave, you can hear "The Rich Maharajah of Magador" here: http://www.midomi.com/index.php?action=main.profile&recording_id=f9994504922ecf0245d06b108183af9c |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: topical tom Date: 14 Dec 07 - 11:53 AM Here I am pestering you again! I now can make a blue clicky but only by using the full url address. My question is how do you make a blue clicky saying only "click here" or "here"? sending the user to the desired site? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Bill D Date: 14 Dec 07 - 12:05 PM You simply insert 'click here' in place of the URL that is BETWEEN the > <...it is as easy as NOT pasting the URL twice, or backspacing over the 2nd URL entry, and retyping 'click here'. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Bill D Date: 14 Dec 07 - 12:11 PM Tom...look closely at Joe's answer to your earlier post several above this...it has a perfect example of what a link should look like just before you post it. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: wysiwyg Date: 14 Dec 07 - 01:17 PM I think MOST people who ask questions here never realize their answer will have been inserted into their post, after the fact. I'm not saying that's a bad way of handling questions, but how can we help people know to look there? ~Susan
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Jeri Date: 14 Dec 07 - 10:07 PM Joe, regarding the photos, I assume you worked the whole thing out with Jeff and he approved the alternate site. (I know you wouldn't just do that without consulting with him.) Will he eventually pluck the photos off your site instead of having folks mail them to him? I got the impression that we were supposed to send photos to Jeff and he'd get to them. I think there might be a problem with profiles and member photos because there hasn't been much new posted there, but I'm sure some new stuff has been added in the 'Events' section. I think people just quit sending photos to Jeff. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: katlaughing Date: 14 Dec 07 - 10:51 PM Jeri, as I understand it, hatched out between BillD, Joe, and me, we aren't taking any photos from the Mudcat photo section, nor profiles to put up at the myopera site; only new ones since after the crash and no more were added here. I did add the ones of Big Mick when he visited here because he asked me to. I would do the same for anyone else who might ask. I think we plan on limiting it to 2-3 photos per person, at this point. I also hope we can eventually see the Mudcat ready to host more of them, here. In the meantime we thought myopera would be a good way for folks to send updates, new ones, etc. Hope that's clear as mud.:-) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Jeri Date: 14 Dec 07 - 11:19 PM My question was, is Jeff going to get photos from your site? Or Have you taken it out of Jeff's hands without talking to him? What I also said was that some HAVE been added since the crash. The crash ended on 15 June 2005. Post #1501298 was on 15 June 2005. Post #1501288 is the first intact message prior to the crash and was posted on 6 June 2005. Poppagator's photos from before and after Katrina are there and a couple of events from 2006 are there, so there HAVE been photos posted since the crash. I suppose If Jeff cares, he can say something - as if... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Dec 07 - 03:27 AM We're just taking the photos temporarily, until Jeff has a chance to add them at Mudcat. Think of myopera as a temporary holding place. Eventually, when Jeff has the time, they'll be posted at Mudcat. -Joe- Mudcat Photos (click)(Temporary Location)send photos for posting to joe@mudcat.org |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Janie Date: 15 Dec 07 - 11:55 PM Has Jeff passed on to you the photos and profiles that have been sent to him over the last year or so that have never been put up on the member photos and profile sections? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Joe Offer Date: 16 Dec 07 - 12:36 AM No, Janie - If they haven't been posted, please send them to me for posting. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: topical tom Date: 16 Dec 07 - 02:56 PM Thanks a lot, Bill D! Because of your message and Joe's previous post I can mow type "Click Here" and it actually works!Muchas Gracias! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: semi-submersible Date: 05 Jul 08 - 06:32 AM I've been looking for protocols for format of the "composer" line when posting songs (in this case, a weboholic parent parody, on which I spent far too much time, which may ironically leave me a cranky and impatient parent tomorrow.) Would it be possible for the FAQ guidelines to include an example, such as a parody with appropriate mentions of original songsmith(s) and new song-mangler? Also, does it matter if the keywords in the subject line are capitalised or abbreviated? (E.g. LYRICS ADD: vs. Lyr Add:) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Jul 08 - 03:40 PM Hi, semi-submersible - Check the FAQ index way at the top of this thread, and follow the link to Posting Lyrics. This link will also do the trick. The operative word in the subject heading of a message is ADD and the song title (Lyr ADD if you have space). I won't give an example - because every song in the Digital Tradition serves as an example. I know you're looking specifically for example on how to post parodies - but I don't want to get THAT specific and legalistic in the FAQ. The people who harvest songs for the Digital Tradition and the Mudcat Songbook, will make corrections if they're needed. Correct information is more important than correct format. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Jul 09 - 08:11 PM Maybe this is a good time to remind people that when they post songs, it helps to post them in proper Digital Tradition format:
I go through songs and correct formatting and such, and then I regularize the formatting of the song title to <b><big>, to indicate it's ready for harvesting. I don't format the song title until the song is ready. T'anks. -Joe- |
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Subject: Starting New Threads From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Aug 09 - 04:56 PM I see an experienced Mudcatter started a thread today titled "Some John Hartford Wonderful." Yesterday, the same person started a thread titled "More Vintage Ron Bankley." In both cases, I think it would have been better if the information had been added to existing threads. We have over 123,000 threads on Mudcat, so in many cases I find it hard to see how starting a new thread on an established subject is a virtue (there are exceptions, when one wants to take a different tack in approaching an issue). With each addition of a thread, it gets harder and harder to find all the wonderful music information that has been posted. Please consider using the Filter to look for related threads that can be resurrected and added to, rather than starting new threads. At least, that's my opinion. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: GUEST Date: 28 Feb 10 - 01:58 PM I have two albums which I made over the last ten years. I was told that you review albums. If this is true could you tell how and where to send them to. Thank you, Simon Davey
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Mar 10 - 09:55 AM In THIS THREAD, there Is, IMNSHO, the clearest explanation (with an example right in it as well) of why and how certain threads get closed. A link to it in the FAQ, or quoting it wholesale, would do much to buttress policy. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide From: Rowan Date: 13 Apr 10 - 08:20 PM Greetings All, The first sentence of the first post in this thread (currently) reads "If you're looking for a song, you'll often find it right here in the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database. Feel free to post a request, but we ask you to use the search box in the upper-left corner of this page (and most other Mudcat pages) to search the database and forum for your lyrics you post a request for them." [I've removed the formatting.] It occurs to me that it might (better) read "If you're looking for a song, you'll often find it right here in the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database. Feel free to post a request, but we ask you to use the search box in the upper-left corner of this page (and most other Mudcat pages) to search the database and forum for your lyrics before you post a request for them." [I've italicised the suggested amendment.] But, it has lasted so long that, it occurs to me, it might be one of your clever tricks to get people to concentrate. As an aside, now that the Search engine is again running, I'll be able to find the original words to "I've been everywhere" (as sung by Lucky Starr, using Australian place names) so they can be added to the DT alongside (but 'preceding') Hank Snow's effort on Canadian place names. A long-ago Mudcat thread had a post with all the material required by the DT harvesters but I haven't been able to resuscitate it recently. If I find it before you do I'll do as recommended in the posts above. Many thanks for your efforts. Cheers, Rowan |
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