BS: Against my better judgement....

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Mbo
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 06:34 PM

Ok ok...the Highland pipes have seven finger holes and a thumb hole.

--Mbo

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From: GUEST,Jim Dixon
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 06:33 PM

THE SCOTSMAN'S KILT is also a song and it's in DigiTrad.

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Mbo
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 04:56 PM

No, tine whistle only have 6 holes, but have 2 octaves. Pipes have 9 holes I believe (yeaI play, but who remembers these thing?) and only has one note over an octave.

--Mbo (Pipers DO have more fun!)

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: TerriM
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 03:53 PM

I've already, and in vain, tried to persuade him toward the tin whistle or the recorder or anything damn thing really but he is convinced he'd make a great piper and he has the knees to prove it ( dunno about the spuds, though, should I ask do you think?).Loved the joke about the drunk piper... the only time I ever got to see up a piper's kilt ( long story, won't bore you with it now) he was wearing army drawers ( cellular,soldiers, for the use of) which was a sad and bitter blow! Liz, the guy is Kevin who was at my 40th birthday party, but then so was everyone else so I don't know if you met him.

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From: Homeless
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 03:22 PM

I believe that tin whistle and bagpipes have different fingering. I had a friend that was bent on learning to play and was showing me his chanter one day. I picked it up and tried to play a scale expecting it to be the same as tin whistle, but was informed I had the fingerings wrong. What he showed me as being the correct fingerings had some of the bottom holes covered while leaving the upper holes open.

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From: GUEST,Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 03:08 PM

Reminds me of the two ladies who came across a drunken piper lying by the side of the road. These two English ladies wanted to know the truth about the Scots not wearing anything under their kilts, so they lifted up the kilt and found out the truth. Laughing about the situation they wanted the piper to know that he had been checked over, so one tied a blue ribbon around his privates. When the piper awoke he looked down and was heard to say.. " I dinna ken where ye've been laddie, but I'm reet glad tay see ye won first prize" Yours, Aye. Dave

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: GUEST,Jim Dixon
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 01:35 PM

Isn't the fingering for a bagpipe chanter the same as the fingering for a tin whistle? If so, the time spent learning to play the whistle wouldn't be wasted if you later take up the bagpipes. And, of course, whistles are much cheaper, quieter, easier, more easily portable, and fit in better with a wide range of other instruments and styles of music.

Terri, if there's any chance at all that your friend will take your advice, I would try to steer him toward the whistle. You could even buy him one. You could tell him that all the great bagpipe players started out on the whistle (which probably isn't true, but it's a forgivable lie, IMHO).

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From: BlueJay
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 01:39 AM

So much derogatory stuff about the bagpipes, it makes me wonder. If there were suddenly no other musical instruments, would you all let music DIE, or takeup the pipes? I know what I'd do. Probably quit smoking.

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Homeless
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 07:26 PM

Spaw - Not quite. Actually, I'm kinda surprised you don't know the story I'm referring too.
Like I said, I'm not sure this is the place to relate it, but the thread title is kinda provoking...

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Mbo
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 07:24 PM

Yes, the Highland Five! And you know what Spaw? We're all beginning pipe players...and we like to have GROUP PRACTICE! Is CLETUS' room empty this week? We need a place to jam, man!

--Mbo

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From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 07:22 PM

That'd be Banj huh Homeless?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Homeless
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 07:18 PM

I once heard a story about a fella with a prosthetic member, in a kilt, and spuds, but I'm not sure this is the right place to go into that...

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From: Banjer
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 07:11 PM

I'll have to find a long kilt so as my spuds don't hang out the bottom!!

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From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 07:00 PM

Well, there are certainly some "kilt" images to conjure on this thread.......Micca, Banj, Meebo, El Swanno, Mick (with spuds), Kendall.................geez..................and here I was about to eat supper.

Spaw

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From: Clinton Hammond2
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 06:18 PM

I haven't read the thread, but I can offer this... Some chums of mine have invented an electronic chanter that makes a great practice tool (sounds like crap in their live show though)... might be a good place to start so as to learn the fingering without having to bust a gut huffing on a chanter or deaffining the neighbours.. The are also cheaper than a set of highland pipes...

Send email or personal message if interested and I can try to get you in touch with them...

{~`

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 06:12 PM

Mbo - looking better than Micca in a kilt is not really difficult, especially when worn with the wine stained shirt and the dodgy sporran......

(sorry!)

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 06:10 PM

TerriM - I trust that this acquaintance is not one that I know as well?

We have a set of French bagpipes here (bellows, pink bag and faint aroma of garlic) which I'm dying to get rid off, if you want, in exchange for the guinness tie back again.....

And the chanter is the bit you blow in, stuck to the bit with the holes in, minus the bag and the dead octopus bits tied up with ribbon. Much quieter and better for learning the tunes - learning to control the bag is a lot harder and should only be attempted whilst wearing suitable surgical appliances.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Mbo
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 06:09 PM

I look better than Micca? Weee!

--Mbo

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From: Micca
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 06:02 PM

Bill D, yes I know that of which you speak but need much flavoured ethanol poured in to remember all of it!!! as for TerriM," Et tu, brute"???? i look splendid in my kilt and it is good for a quick application of Savlon!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 12:40 PM

Micca, that Frenchman was a piker...have you not heard of the famous Farter from Sparta (multi-verse limerick, sung to YOUR favorite limerick tune) ..I actually did this a few years ago at a sing,..'blew 'em away', so's to speak....

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From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 11:05 AM

The nice thing about a kilt is that you have plenty of room for spuds.............

Big Mick, the aspiring Uillean Piper

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From: Mooh
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 10:18 AM

Alison, would that have been Slainte Mhath? I happened to have caught their soundcheck before a gig on Saturday in Wingham Ontario, where part of the Star Wars theme was played. Sounded great, of course, as they can almost do no wrong, and it got its share of chuckles from the assembled crew and opening act. There's tons of non-traditional pipe-friendly tunes around. Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: alison
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 01:55 AM

It's a Glengarrie Kendall,

I've heard the Star Wars theme played on a set of Highland Pipes..... sounded great...

slainte

alison

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From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 01:51 AM

Bagpipes, the missing link between music and noise. I always use a bagpiper or more in the studio on my recordings - that way I know they're not out on the street annoying innocent passersby. But no matter how good or bad a piper is, beginner or expert, he'll always be asked to play Amazing Grace. All the best. Seamus

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: TerriM
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 06:21 PM

Meebo, honey, I'll bet you're a wow in a kilt! In any case, you have to be better then Micca !

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: kendall
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 11:45 AM

If I could figure out how to make a print out of a slide, I could send a picture of me in a kilt, tunic and the cap, I forget what its called, Glen Bernie or ben gary whatever. Now, that would be scary!!

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Mbo
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 11:11 AM

Spice Girls on the pipes! An interesting idea! I should try it! Hey, us loser guys will try ANYTHING to get girls to notice us! And just WAIT till I get my kilt!

--Mbo

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From: Amos
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 08:28 AM

Spice Girls on the bagpipes? Isn't that like dancing about architecture, a fish without a bicycle, or something?

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From: Banjer
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 07:16 AM

'Banj in a kilt'?? Careful 'Spaw, momma always said to mind what ya wish for cause it may come true...!

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: TerriM
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 06:45 AM

I still think I would be better setting him up with a girlfriend particularly as I just know he's aspiring to play spice girl songs on the pipes and I refuse to believe there is a living being out there who would welcome that experience!None the less I will look out the pages noted and hand them over to him and may the Goddess have mercy on all our souls.

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From: Micca
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 05:58 AM

Sorcha, haven't you ever heard of "Le Petomane"? he was a celebrated windbreaker in France at the turn of the century, performed in music halls, and could fart the Marsellaise!!!!!! worth looking up (in a manner of speaking!!!!!)BTW TerriM , make sure he doesnt learn "The Road to the Isles",or the Far Coolins will be taking him away.

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 04:57 AM

I would suppose that they do produce sound, but is is accompanied by smell. Flautulence does not have great tonal qualities.

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From: Escamillo
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 04:45 AM

RR, I don't know them but I could investigate. I would be much surprised if they play bagpipes or any traditional instruments at all, (their name translates to "thunderlight") but will try to find out.

> ...: That last sounds a lot like Spaw and Cleigh.
is it true that they produce sound ?.. oh, I would like to hear it.:))
Un abrazo - Andrés

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From: rangeroger
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 03:02 AM

Escamillo: That last sounds a lot like Spaw and Cleigh.
Also,have you heard of a group from Argentina called "Refusilo"? They posted to the message board for Strawberry Music Festival,wanting to play the festival.
rr

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: BlueJay
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 02:52 AM

Now I know nothing about bagpipes, except that my childhood piano teacher's husband, (Roy Hess), played them quite well. He ended up, (for a time), as our Superintendant of Schools. As for the argument that a novice bagpipe player should be assigned to a large field: could not the same be said of a novice violinist? The world must suffer much in order to support new musicians.

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From: Escamillo
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 02:26 AM

Just a thought.. I remember the fascination that pipes had on me when I was a child (last century ?). A Scottish family of neighbors used to practice in the front yard of their house some times, traditionally dressed, father and 4 sons in a row, including percussion, it was so impressive ! And rather exotic too, in a South American big city, but later I learnt that a large community of people from the islands reached and stayed in our coasts through history, since the British Invasions of 1806.
How outstanding were the pipe bands in any military parade in movies and TV ! Just hearing their sound from very far, brought such a special excitement ! Many years later came the war of the Falklands/Malvinas, and everything British was presented to us a synonimous of death and abuse. By that time, me and my friends were a little older, and had learnt to differentiate patriotism from bullshit, but the argentine teenagers killed in the islands and in the seas were real.. then that phenomenal music inspired mixed emotions of fear and admiration that keep going on many of us when we hear the pipes.
I think Terri's friend has made a good choice, after all.

Un abrazo - Andrés

PS Joke: DO you know why the Galitian (from Galizia, Spain) pipes sound much less brilliant and loud than the Scottish and British ? Because the Galitians blow into the wrong tube.

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: alison
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 11:57 PM

a friend and I played duelling banjos (well at least the start of it) on uilleann pipes at a Christmas party.... the crowd loved it, bad as it was......

Uilleann pipes are difficult to play, it takes a lot of practice to make them sound more tuneful than a duck being strangled......

Having said that...... they have a lovely tone. Highland small pipes have a nice tone too, and are played similar to the uilleanns. I'm hoping to pick up a set of highland pipes when I go home later this year..... that'll really give the band something to complain about!!

slainte

alison

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From: GUEST,anonymous
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 10:40 PM

I'd like to hear someone do The Flight of the Bumblebee on pipes.

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From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 09:34 PM

There ya' go.........Meebo is an aspiring piper!!!

Kinda' says it all doesn't it?

Spaw

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From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 09:32 PM

LOL!

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From: Mbo
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 09:26 PM

YES PIPES! PIPES RULE!!!!! I myself am learning the practice chanter...hoping to get up to the Highland Pipes one day! YEAH! Limited yes, but you'd be amazing how many songs are simple enough to play on it. "Penny Lane" by the Beatles is a special favorite of mine, as is William Jackson's "Gardyne Castle." Cheers to the new pipers, may we all gain the respect we deserve!

--Mbo

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From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 09:22 PM

Obviously rangeroger needs to proofread for typos. The last line SHOULD read:

"They could probably be hit as a trio." .....not "be a hit."

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: rangeroger
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 08:55 PM

TerriM:
Your friend should get together with a banjo player and an accordianist to practice.They could probably be a hit as a trio.
rr

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From: bob schwarer
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 07:51 PM

A new bagpiper. May his tribe increase.

Bob S.

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 07:47 PM

And if you want something to conjure on Kendall....Think about Banj in a kilt..................ooooooooo.......gives me the shivvers just thinkin' on it................

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: kendall
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 07:38 PM

Someone (not me spaw) once said that both the pipes and the kilts were given to the Scots by the Irish, and they havn't seen the joke yet!!

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From: Banjer
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 07:31 PM

I too must admit to loving the sound of the pipes. I have been known to travel quite some distance to go see the Blackwatch when the were still on tour. A set of pipes is a wonderful thing as long as the piper plays somethng he knows....I could probably never get up nerve enough to play the pipes....(If I were going to blow a pig it certainly wouldn't be in public) Some local pipers(?) I have heard have been told that it would die quicker if stabbed with a knife as opposed to squeezing it to death!

Subject: RE: BS: Against my better judgement....
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 04:51 PM

Aren't you lucky it was Highland Pipes though Ickle? If it had been Northumbrian you would not only have feared the pipes, but also shark attack.

Spaw

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From: Linda Kelly
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 04:48 PM

I sat next to a bagpipe player in a pub session quite recently-frankly, when he started to play I feared for my life!

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From: Dave Swan
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 04:44 PM

No, you Buckeye bogtrotter. Spit valve indeed. Just what I'd expect from a state where tobacco is a food group. It's very wet in Northumbria, see, and these pipes are meant to be played under water. It's sort of a snorkel effect designed to get one to the pub in the worst of weather so that one can get to that critical pint which allows to one to deaden his senses enough to believe that he's actually making a pleasant sound. Got that straight?

E.S.