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Justifying Multiple Guitars

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Subject: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MK
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 07:06 PM

I know that true ''guitar nerds'' will be able to relate.

I openly confess that I have a moderate case of G.A.S. (guitar acquisition syndrome --for the un-initiated).

I cannot seem to help myself...but I have managed to temper it because a while back, my G.A.S. problem brought me perilously close to the brink of bancruptcy, and stressed me out considerably in the process.

Currently I have 5 acoustics...an older vintage D-28, a newer custom D-42, a OOO-28EC (on consignment), an older M-38, and a Collings OM. I still want to get an older vintage D-18, and perhaps an older vintage OOO-28.

Everytime I bring a new acquisition home, my significant other gets extremely upset, and says ''What the hell do you need all these guitars for?''...and my stock answer is always...''You just don't understand.''

Each one is like a different personality, and I can do things on one that I can't on others, or I require a specific sound for whatever recording project I'm working on.''

But the actual fact is I'm in love with the whole aura about them....and enjoy holding them, starring at them, and playing them.

WHY?

- Mid life crisis?
- Not breast fed as a child?
- Viagara pills not working?
- They're always ready for me, unlike my wife
- Like a pet, they give un-conditional love
- All of the above?
- None of the above>

(I could go on and on...)

Anyone else here relate?

How do you justify it to your significant other or non musicians?

Is there a cure....besides bankcrupcy,homelessness or death?

H E L P !


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: SeanM
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 07:16 PM

Michael K, don't give up hope. I'm officialy a partial victim of Whistle Acquisition Syndrome. I'm almost over it at the moment, with only 6 (and only 2 in D!), but at one point had 12 - and I know people with 20 or 30.

You're amongst friends - hell, I've got a guitar, and don't even play. I just like having it there... 'cause some day I'll figure it all out...

M


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 07:32 PM

I ran into someone with a full range of mouth organs in all keys strapped to his waist. He could hardly walk. Played everything in G and D anyway.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Froodo
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 07:44 PM

I too am addicted to acquiring guitars. I play 'em. Look at 'em sittin all purdy on their stands. I polish 'em. Take pictures of 'em. I love 'em.

I'm glad to be with similar folk in the mudcat.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Amos
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 08:03 PM

Mikey, lad, I understand...I have three and if I could afford it I'd have three more. But I know the answer to your question. It's (b) -- the breast thing. How would I know? Because breasts are always the best possible answer to almost everything. :>))!


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Midchuck
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 08:32 PM

If your conscience bothers you about the multiple guitars, sign onto my favorite hangout, the flatpick list. It's a great support group - although no effort is made to cure, or even control the problem. Only cure the guilt.

I have no problems with my significant other about multiple guitars because (a) she has fiddles like I have guitars, and (b) we agree that gig money is for toys and day job money is for necessities. But you can always find a weakness to attack. Many guys with several guitars have wives who spend more on clothes. Or you can simply point out that you don't use drugs or drink or smoke much (unless you do, that is).

But maybe I ought not to go into the marriage counseling business.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 08:33 PM

Mine's not guitars, but fiddles. I only have 3 now, sold my 3/4 last week cause I knew I'd never play it again. But that doesn't explain why I have all these things I will never play--banjo, fife, broken bouzki, etc. Gotta be breasts, huh Amos?


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Áine
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 08:38 PM

Fortunately, my dear hubby and I share the same passion for the wonderful 6-string instrument. So, no arguments over getting a guitar, just who gets to play it! And don't even mention the squabbles over picks and straps (hehehe)! However, he has still to consent to letting a banjo in the house -- however, I think I have him talked into a mandolin in the next year or so . . .

Sean M. -- I, too, am a sufferer of WAS. I won't confess to how many I have, but now I've branched into flutes and recorders. Mostly, though, I'm getting them purely (yea, right) for the particulary "ambience" they lend to a particular song . . . and I've got a bridge I wanna sell ya . . .

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: rangeroger
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 08:51 PM

I can definitely relate.I have 4 guitars,a banjo, mountain dulcimer,mandolin a 2 fiddles.I agree about each of the guitars having a different personality and sound.
I am currently awaiting delivery of an electric bass guitar,which I hope to learn to play. After that I vowed that no matter how hard times got I wouldn't sell any more musical instruments,I would sell my guns instead.I can go out and earn money with a guitar,if I try it with a gun I go to jail.
rr


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: rangeroger
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 09:13 PM

I can definitely relate.I have 4 guitars,a banjo, mountain dulcimer,mandolin a 2 fiddles.I agree about each of the guitars having a different personality and sound.
I am currently awaiting delivery of an electric bass guitar,which I hope to learn to play. After that I vowed that no matter how hard times got I wouldn't sell any more musical instruments,I would sell my guns instead.I can go out and earn money with a guitar,if I try it with a gun I go to jail.
rr


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: rangeroger
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 09:19 PM

Sorry about the double post,my first one left the middle portion out,and now I see the second one did too.
What I said was that when I moved to Idaho,I met some pretty hard financial times.I sold a beautiful Gibson Les Paul Custom for less than I paid for it,which was also considerably less than what I paid for it.
Now back to my previous 2 posts which are(again) still in progress.
rr


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Gary T
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 10:08 PM

Patrick McManus wrote some delightful humor columns for an outdoors sporting magazine (Field & Stream?), which are collected into various books. One of the columns, in one of the books (sorry--they're packed in some box somewhere) is about justifying and sneakily adding to his collection of guns (hunting rifles). It's a riot, and while reading it I saw major parallels to my guitar collection (only 3). You can probably find his books at most bookstores, and they're worth buying. The column I have in mind will also give you some great, off-the-wall tips on overcoming resistance to the growing collection.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Caitrin
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 10:12 PM

Someday, I will be able to afford GAS. I must! Right now, there are four guitars in my house, and none are mine.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 10:18 PM

Hey Double r.......I think you DO have PAS......Post Acquisition Syndrome.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 10:19 PM

I always thought "GAS" stood for Gear A-cquisition S-yndrome. In which case just about all of the posters have it. There is no cure. I have managed to control mine by buying little things when I get an urge for a new guitar--tuning forks, tuners, new strings to try out, etc. This, unfortunately only gives temporary relief and the danger of a relapse is always nearby.

I had a friend who was a photographer and got got GAS in my sence. He opened up a used/vintage camera shop and never looked back. During the slump of the 80s when all photographers were going broke here in Sydney, he was sitting pretty.

Maybe, as Blind Blake and/or Blind Willie McTell say: "That'll never happen no more.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 10:25 PM

Say Murray......Thinking of gear.....How's the testing coming along on the "Amish Australian Pitchfork Moustache Tuner, Gordon Bok Special Edition?" I'm ready to go with a great ad campaign here.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mbo
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 10:25 PM

I have 4 guitars--one steel string, 2 practice classical guitars, and my performance guitar. I love 'em all.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: The Beanster
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 10:28 PM

This is too funny because although I am not the guilty party here, I have a close friend who has a slight...compulsion, shall we say, to buy, trade and then re-trade and re-buy guitar after guitar after guitar. Has 5 very nice ones at the moment, but I never know when the beast will rear it's ugly head again and off one will go, only to be replaced by another--or two. He says he can stop anytime, says, "Yeah, but this is really the last one, this time." Next thing you know, I catch him sneaking peeks into a catalogue again or on the phone with someone in Texas or Michigan or somewhere, wheeling and dealing about another Collings. lolol But Midchuck, I think you're right. I keep telling him it's his ONLY vice--so go ahead and DO it!!


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 10:37 PM

I have a large home and one day a fiddler friend who is doing some serious house remodeling called and asked if he could bring some of his instruments to me to store until his house is finished. He brought: 1 balalaika, 4 mandolins, 4 banjos, 8 guitars and 22 fiddles.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: ddw
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 10:53 PM

This hits home. I've got three guitars, two autoharps, a piano, God knows how many harmonicas. My trouble'n'strife thinks I'm nuts. I try to explain to her that one guitar (my '63 Guild D-40) is special and I won't A) take it out in nasty weather or B) but holes in it to put in a pickup. The Palmer is OK, but I bought it as a beater just a few months before I won my Cort in a raffle. I put pickups in both, so I can go on stage with two wired guitars, one tuned standard and one for bottlenecking.

She grumbles, but accepts that — along with my explanation that I tune the autoharps differently to give me a wider range of keys I can play in.

What she doesn't understand is why I would love to have a 9-string, a 12-string and (most of all) a National Steel.

I've finally resorted to "It's a picker thing — you wouldn't understand."

david


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 10:57 PM

Michael K, I can see no justification for you owning so many guitars and can this condition is causing you a lot of stress. If you like, you can send some to me and I will split the burden with you.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Kelida
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 11:21 PM

I'm 17, and I own 1 acoustic guitar, 1 keyboard (that I can't really play, but is an expensive piece), 2 clarinets (my beloved first instrument, and a performance instrument--hopefully I'll be getting a G-tuned Clarinet soon), a beautiful hand-made whistle, a cheap fife, a pennywhistle, a wooden flute of some kind (?), and probably a couple other miscelaneous instruments that I can't think of off the top of my head. I'm also planning on buying a bodhran and a cittern when I get enough money. At least you've limited your syndrome to guitars--if I had more money (or didn't need my car), I'd have even more instruments that I can't play. I do believe that there is just something about musical instruments that is fascinating to some people. I just like to look at them and hold them and sleep with them (like stuffed animals). . . I also have the same problem with art supplies, although I can use most art stuff, while the only instrument that I'm truly proficient on is the clarinet. Hey, it happens. You should just enjoy your music as long as it isn't interfering with the rest of your finances. . .


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mbo
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 11:26 PM

Oops, forgot...5 guitars...forgot the AMAZING MUDCAT GUITAR! Oh, yeah, 2 keyboards, a fiddle, a recorder, a Highland Pipe practice chanter, a kalimba, and a cheap pennywhistle. Man, how I want a cello! --Mbo


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 11:27 PM

Hi Kelida......Selmer, Buffet, or what?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Kelida
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 11:33 PM

Also, for anyone who loves historical and rare/cool instruments check out Lark in the Morning at: http://www.larkinam.com or Triskelion Folk Music at: HTTP://renaissance-faire.com/shop/Triskelion.htm

Lark in the Morning has a huge selection of traditional instruments and some really cool stuff (check out the Harp Guitar!)


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: JamesJim
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 11:39 PM

I never try to justify the acquistion of musical instruments. No doubt they are like mermaids to sailers. I propose that God taught man to reproduce heavenly sounds by using common earthly goods of his creation. It gives us mortals great pleasure to play the music of angels (well, it may not sound too good to us, but God appreciates both the sound and the effort). I figure just having them around to look at, brings us closer to our Maker. So, we buy them, trade for them or heaven forbid, steal them. All of this is an effort to get closer to God. Now then, to pick them up and play them somehow makes us divine. As our old friend John Denver would say - "Far Out!" I've never used this excuse, but it a spirtual answer to a difficult question. Jim


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 11:47 PM

WARNING!!!
No one with IAS should ever see a Lark in the Morning catalog! I want a hurdy gurdy, a psaltry, a set of Uilliean pipesthaticouldneverlearnto play, and Oh never mind. It is probably the debil in my modem!


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Kelida
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 11:51 PM

Lark in the Morning is my paradise. Now if only Borders Books, Lark in the Morning, Subway, and a really great art supply store would join forces and create a superstore--I could live there forever. . .


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: rangeroger
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 12:15 AM

Kelida M:
I was wondering how much of a mess it makes when you sleep with your art supplies?
rr


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mbo
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 12:25 AM

It's VERY messy. Have you ever slept with a bottle of asphaltum?

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MK
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 12:38 AM

When I gigged professionally (as a keyboard player) a lot of ''toys'' were acquired....some of which are in my home studio..others are in the garage covered and gathering dust. Things like Bose 802 speakers, Carvin stereo power amp, assorted monitors, mixers, drum machines, effects pedals, a Mini Moog, an Arp Odyssey, a Horner Clavinet, a Fender Rhodes, a Univox Mini-Korg, a Prophet 10, and other assorted doo dads.. I won't sell any of them because they're not worth anything right now (unless there is a market for nostalgia equipment that I don't know about) and the other reason is that I am by nature a pack-rat. I never seem to be able to throw anything away...except failed relationships and roaches (non insect). *BG*

I was working on a recording project a couple of weeks ago, trying to find just the right sound to add as a colouring for a tune, and none of the samples and banks of sound cards from my Korg M1 would yield it. Then I remembered that great DX-7 harmonica sound that Turner Turner had on ''What's Love Got To Do With It"..and flashed on the fact that I had a DX-7 in the garage...where it's been quiety sitting for about 10 years. Brought it in the house, took it out of its case, and fired it up (worked perfectly), found the harmonica sound, a voila, completed the tune. I guess I keep this other stuff around for just such an instance.

With the guitars....it's different. I don't gig on guitar, hell I don't even perform publicly except in the company of Mr. Fielding at a weekly lesson...yet these instruments compel me and I feel an intimate connection with them, more so than even with the keyboard and I've been playing piano all my life (40+ years) and guitar only for 2 or 3...Good thing is, is that if I should ever decide to put a blue grass band together (something I'm toying with doing down the road) I have the p.a. and all necessary equipment.

By the way, there are no garage sales planned in the near future.   8-)


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: ceitagh
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 12:46 AM

I'm up to 7 pennywhistles and 3 or 4 other whistles (reed, etc....) and one guitar, which i will probably never learn to play. And a flute. I can just imagine where i'll be in another 3 or 4 years...

pax ceit


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Callie
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 12:51 AM

Oh wow - I thought I was a lone sufferer. Like Beanster's friend, i have been buying/selling/trading etc guitars for years. But now I think I have found the perfect guitar - a lovely black acoustic/electric cutaway Takemine.

I knew my problem was manifesting itself publicly when I took two guitars to a festival (and a bodhran and recorder). I DID leave the clarinet, sax, keyboard, african drum at home - no room in the car.

I'm contemplating a fiddle next - it would kinda fill that gap a little.

--Callie

ps: some guitar shops have a fantastic range of picks. I can never resist. The latest grab has a surfing alien and the face of jesus christ (plastic jesus!)


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mbo
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 12:52 AM

Probably doin' better and better musical things, Ceit! 4 years...wow, I might be married by then...weird, well I'll make sure our house is FULL of music!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: ddw
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 12:54 AM

Lord, Mbo — have you no shame? I mean we can live with you not having any girlfriends and all that, but wouldn't a sheep be better than sleeping with a bottle of asphaltum?

*BG*

david


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: SeanM
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 01:14 AM

Sorry...

Can't resist...

For those of you suffering from GAS, WAS, PAS, IAS or whatever else, do NOT click here under any circumstances.

Lark In The Morning has been known to cause the following side effects amongst Acquisition Syndrome victims:

Sweaty Palms Heavy lifting and carrying strain and perhaps worst of all, Sudden Wallet Implosion Syndrome

You have been warned.

M


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 01:24 AM

Michael, have you thought of acquiring an "Amish Australian Pitchfork Moustache Tuner?" They're just the thing and available only thru Fly by Nite Industries.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MK
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 01:29 AM

...or here...or here...or here...or here...or here...or here...or here...or here.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MK
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 01:35 AM

'Spaw....seriously, you should be writing for Leno, Letterman, Larry Sanders and others.

Very funny stuff. *BG*


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Callie
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 01:42 AM

OMIGOD!! What a site!!!! I've chewed my fingernails down to stumps!!!!!

I die!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: BlueJay
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 01:49 AM

My problem is not buying multiple guitars, (though I would if I could afford it), but buying different instruments. I have six string, twelve string and electric guitars, bass, mandolin and autoharp. Various recorders, a kalimba, and a banjo I made payments on and still haven't really learned how to play. I even made a balalaika once, but it sounded like crap so I sold it for five bucks at a garage sale. Plus the piano, (only for my kids). Now all these things add up to real money after a while, and I'm behind on my student loans. What's worse, I'm not setting a good example for my children: my 8 year old daughter, (the one with the piano), has acquired several HARMONICAS, penney whistles and recorders, and seems intent on obtaining a guitar, and my three year old daughter has been exploring the sonic variances of rubber bands. So far, my wife seems unaffected, but I am concerned that if she keeps having to pick up my instruments, ... Is there a specialist at The Neil Young Center For The Terminally Screwed? It's almost midnight, I can't find my capo, and there are NO MUSIC STORES OPEN!


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 03:50 AM

Well, the Neil Young Center does specialise in treating GAS (or Fielding's Disease as it is known colloquially). Unfortunately, we've not heard from Rick how the treatment worked now he's getting home nursing!
RtS (can't play anything except the one plastic kazoo!)


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 06:15 AM

Hey Spaw, keep it down until we get the patent!

Now here is the ultimate GAS sufferer's downfall. Not long ago I was sent "The Woodwind & Brasswind International Catalog". In it is a gadget called a "Jim Brock Sax". The body is made of bamboo and it is fingered like a recorder. However it has a saxaphone mouthpiece. It only costs $49 US dollars. I can't bring myself to throw the catalog away, and (burp) I feel an attack of GAS come on every time I look at it. It is downright instrument pornography!

I looked into an octave guitar at Lark some time ago and found two things wrong with them (Lark, that is). First of all, they seemed reluctant to give me any information on the instrument besides what was at the site. For example I asked if one could use normal guitar strings on it (cut down to size) and they answered me that they carry fine strings for the instrument. The other thing was their return policy. It was pretty draconic for a mail-order firm. This was more than a year ago and things might have changed by now.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Troll
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 07:34 AM

I have-at last count- 45 guitars (most of which are playable.A few are projects)5 5-string banjos, 3 tenors,3 mandolins,3 fiddles, 1 viola, 1 string bass,2 dobros, 4 celtic harps, 6 electric guitars(my sons) 1 acoustic bass guitar, 1 electric bass, 1 keyboard, and a full rank of recorders from garklein to bass. Some of these are my Wifes' or my sons', but most are mine. Compulsive? Who? Me?

troll who is semi-back

Oh, I forgot. 2 concertinas and a set of parlor pipes


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 08:29 AM

Damn you Jon Freeman!!! How dare you suggest that Michael K start sending you his instruments! Do you know how much the shipping, insurance and postage to England would be? Sure, he might feel better, but he'd be broke. Besides you'd just cut them up into little tenor banjos. On the other hand, a fine home awaits any or all of these instruments at 1235 Kingston Road. The hooks are on the wall, I've filled the humidifier, and am prepared to negotiate visiting rights.

Make no mistake Michael, you ARE sick! Verrry sick. Your wife is right, and I have it on good authority, is planning on leaving you unless you stop calling your capos and "dampits" SEX TOYS! You're not fooling anyone. I was there. Yes, when I met Duckboots, I too was an acoustic mess. Larrivee, D-28, Epiphone, and more Gibsons than a 19th century fashion magazine! Today I have none of those instruments..and I'm a better man for it.*

Rick (G.A.S. victim)

* I've replaced them with 50 different ones.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: RichM
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 08:34 AM

Lemme see... 3 6string guitars, 1 classical guitar, 1 12string guitar,1 (early 40's?)electric steel guitar, 3 mandolins, 1 banjo, 1 Upright Bass,1 Electric Bass, 1 Ashbory minielectric bass--which is really neat!-- 2 fiddles, 10 pennywhistles, 1 Recorder, 1 Accordion, unknown quantity of harmonicas, autoharp, zither, tons of shakers and noisemakers,2 guitar amps, 2 bass amps--- and then there's the PA toys

...And I still don't think I have too much! I want bagpipes, and a concertina and a keyboard and a National metal body guitar...

Last is a wife who also plays many of these--and actually encourages me to get more-- SO IT'S NOT MY FAULT!

Rich


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: RichM
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 08:34 AM

Lemme see... 3 6string guitars, 1 classical guitar, 1 12string guitar,1 (early 40's?)electric steel guitar, 3 mandolins, 1 banjo, 1 Upright Bass,1 Electric Bass, 1 Ashbory minielectric bass--which is really neat!-- 2 fiddles, 10 pennywhistles, 1 Recorder, 1 Accordion, unknown quantity of harmonicas, autoharp, zither, tons of shakers and noisemakers,2 guitar amps, 2 bass amps--- and then there's the PA toys

...And I still don't think I have too much! I want bagpipes, and a concertina and a keyboard and a National metal body guitar...

Last is a wife who also plays many of these--and actually encourages me to get more-- SO IT'S NOT MY FAULT!

Rich


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: RichM
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 08:36 AM

Sorry about the double post--my finger twitched twice on "post"...too excited, I guess.

Rich


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mooh
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 08:47 AM

Various whistles, harmonicas, and electronic gadgets, a busted-up cheapo classical guitar, a Harmony archtop being repaired, a home-made electric bass (Thunderfucker), an upright bass, Harmony flat-top set up for lap-style, A-style mandolin, Stratocaster, Telecaster, two portable keyboards, and what really counts, three hand made personalized Marc Beneteau acoustics. The first is a six-string. "Oh gee Honey, after all these years can't I at least have one top flight guitar?" The second is a 12 string. "Well you know Sweetheart, it sounds alot different, and I am recording now." The third is a baritone. "Hey Sugar, you always said it would be nice if the band had more bass." I want to order another but I might be negotiating a seperation agreement by then. The "Catch 22" is I need her money to help buy more guitars.

Seriously though, so long as I've got an honest reason for owning another guitar I don't get too much flack. I teach guitar lessons, play in a band, back up two traditional singers, have a regular jam, and periodically join rock bands, do "one off" gigs, and church gigs. I would like one or two more 6 strings so that I don't have to keep changing tunings all the time.

It's not as selfish as having a car that never gets driven, a boat that never gets floated, or whatever else we all buy for status or lust or coveting or whatever. Just because I GAS about my workaday tools doesn't make me sick. (I wish all my students came to lessons with acoustics and left their electrics at home too, so I promote the acquisition of more and more guitars...I also would like a couple of guitars to loan out for those times when students are between instruments, or for the underpriveleged among us who need an instrument...) I always get compliments about the SOUND of my guitars at gigs, because I've spent the time and money to provide a variety of guitar tones...pure acoustic tones, not electric. I want guitars because they all sound diferent, some more different than others, but all worthy.

Hey, this has been good therapy! Thanks Mudcatters! Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Jeri
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 09:04 AM

Ha - you are all sick! Sick, sick, sick! I don't have one single guitar. I have 4 fiddles (one being fostered by a certain seriously ill individual) 3 banjos, 1 hammered dulcimer, 1 mountain (lap) dulcimer, several tinwhistles, a couple of recorders, 2 kalimbas, 1 mandolin, 1 digerido, a bamboo flute, 2 or 3 sets of bones, harmonicas, and a nose flute. Not one guitar!


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Clifton53
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 11:24 AM

Yes Michael K. Be advised that shipping charges are much cheaper within the contiguos United States! Ignore these Welsh pretenders and these Canadian non-spenders! Point being, you don't have to ship at all, I'll come get it! Yes indeed, I will fire up the Ford Tortoise and relieve you of your burden with nary a whimper! Time and place please!

Anyway this whole thread reminds me of something, don't know what but it reminds me of something. Just kidding.

I was a member of another folk type list, not a forum, just an E-Mail type of thing. So the question was asked, what guitars do you own? So I sends in my reply with a short blurb on how every time I bring up the purchase of a new and different six-string, my wife tells me, "You have a beautiful guitar". In other words, "We can't afford it"! And I went on to say,"Jumpin Bejabbers, they just don't understand G.A.S. etc etc". So this other guy writes in reply, "Oh, my wife just bought me a new so and so", and "God, isn't she great"?, and "Oh what a woman", and " Jeez, she wants me to buy more stuff".

Made me want to puke! Needless to say, if I am ever fortunate enough to meet this gentleman, heh heh, what a time I'LL have.

But my wifey is a darlin', bought me a mandolin for my birthday. But, I would still love to meet this guy. Hopefully, I will have my dog in tow.

Best wishes, and keep the collection moving,

Clifton53


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: JedMarum
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 11:41 AM

Hmmmm, I understand this problem all too well! My instrument addiction is primarily acoustic guitar ... but if you came into my house you find 6 scoustic guitars, 2 electrics (my son's) a long neck banjo ... a set of drums (my daughter-in-law is awesome) ... two PA systems, various amplifiers, lots of electronics (mics, mixers, cables, etc) and some rcroding equipment. We have lost one living room, part of the dining room, most of my home office and one closet to the storage of this "stuff" - and the home has countless dings and 'bruises' in the paint and wall paper from continuously lugging this stuff in and out.

Not only that, I am chomping at the bit to buy; more PA speakers and amp - an acoustic baritone guitar (Santa Cruz makes a beauty), an Irish Bouzouki, and an electric). Thank God I can't afford to buy everything I want, (yet)!

And why do we get these unctrollable urges??? Hmm, I like to blame it a lack of breast feeding - but I am doing everything I can now to alleviate that short coming!


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 12:16 PM

[Aw fergawdsakes murray..........You didn't file the patent papers? Look, just send the stuff in so we can get on with it. Look at all the seriously ill indivduals on this thread alone!!! There's not a one of them wouldn't spring a few bucks to have a "Pitchfork Moustache Tuner." This group doesn't even care about using the Australian or Amish thing to boost sales and we can add to the Gordon Bok Special Edition another one....for this bunch, some inlay, a little rosewood and their set!!!]

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Spaw


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 12:43 PM

Multiple guitars, hell, what about being in multiple bands????


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Wesley S
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 12:57 PM

The middle bedroom of our home is occupied by two twelve strings , three 6 strings , three mandolins , a baby Taylor , one dulcimer and an old Vega 5 string. I'm going to try to sell the baby Taylor and the Mid Missouri mandolin this weekend at the guitar show in Dallas in order to help finance the purchase of an octave mandolin.

What I keep telling my wife is that these are investments. I don't drink, smoke, or watch sports on TV. The majority of the gigs our group gets are in church services or related church functions like picnics and fund raisers. So I tell her it's my "ministry". She doesn't really buy it - but it's worked so far. I keep telling myself that the last purchase I'll make will be the octave mandolin but that's just my addiction speaking. But I'll slow down soon - I promise.........................


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Bert
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 01:14 PM


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 01:19 PM

Bert forgot what he was going to say.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Homeless
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 01:50 PM

For years I've been hiding from people the fact that I have GAS. Now I find a group of people that not only admit it, but seem to take pride in the fact.

OK, here's my list... 1 guitar, 1 banjo, an electric bass, 3 lap dulcimers, 6 D tin whistles, 1 each in C,F,G,A, 3 recorders, a ceramic flute, 2 bamboo flutes, a dozen sets of bamboo panpipes, a keyboard, 3 tongue drums, 4 coconut drums, a jaws harp, 2 harmonicas, a tubular glockenspiel (sp?), various tuning forks, pitchpipes, shakers, rattles, etc, and the tools, materials, and intention of building at least two dozen other things.

And the kicker is I don't have a house to put all this in - I live with it in my 1/2 ton Dodge van.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 02:58 PM

To add to the inventory, I've got three steel-string acoustics, one classical, two electrics, two mandolins, and lots of assorted amplification and sound reinforcement equipment. But I'm terribly disappointed to hear that the Dampits aren't sex toys. If someone can tell me what they're actually for, I'll start using them (I'll have to buy new ones, though -- once these things have been used as sex toys, it's probably best to dedicate them to that).


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mooh
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 03:08 PM

Wesley S, I feel alot better now. I'll try that "ministry" line soon. Thanks. Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Easy Rider
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 03:40 PM

I feel sorry for all you GAS victims. I feel your pain. Just to think of the nightmare of having to change strings on 47 guitars, every month, makes me shiver! When do you find the time to practice? I only have two guitars to change every month, and that's enough.

If you are a performer, and you play in several different styles, and you record also, I can see the need for different types of instruments, but, for most of us, they're just a middle aged wo/man's toys. I have only owned two guitars in my life, and I still have them both. The first I have had for thirty-six years. I bought it when I was a teenager. The second is new, and I consider it an old man's luxury.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 04:16 PM

Three guitars, all of which i NEED, and various other instruments I don't have time to practice properly.

The McManus story is in *The Grasshopper Trap,* entitled "Metamorphosis, and Other Outdore Phenomena Wives just don't Understand."

Yours public library probably has it, and should if they don't.

MA


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 04:51 PM

Youv'e got me thinking now Rick. A 5 string banjo would always run the risk of being turned into a tenor banjo (there are some most peculiar people around who do the opposite) but I always thought a guitar would be quite safe. I am now wondering about the possibility of guitar bodied bozouzis, mandolas and citerns.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Scotsbard
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 05:38 PM

After a major housecleaning a few years ago, a short stay in a remote but structured deprogramming environment, months of intensive counseling, and the continued support of my G/IAS-AA support group, I'm happy to say that I have been on the wagon for nearly 6 months now. (Buying a DI conversion box doesn't really count, and neither does buying new instrument or vocal microphones.)

I'm down to only 1 flamenco, 1 acoustic, and 1 12-string guitar, 1 fretless and 1 fretted base as far as the stringed instruments go. During a period of weakness that was finally overcome with much support from my friends in musical theatre, I am apparently amnesiac regarding how 5 D (all different materials), a low-D, 2 A, and a treble G (no way *I* bought that, the holes are too close together)whistles ,alto and soprano recorders, a D-fife, and A-flute, two bamboo flutes and a practice chanter all arrived in my possession. Since then I've successfully dedicated myself to a higher power and avoided new instrument purchases.

However, I may need to find a MPAS-AA group, as my hard-drive now has 5 scoring-typesetting, 3 ds-processing, 2 mp3-converting, a .wav editor and dozens of midi patches. I fear that I may stumble yet again, as I've actually been searching the web during the dark hours, plotting and scheming for PCI cards that will let me record directly onto my laptop. Oh help me brothers and sisters, for I must be strong ... why just the other day, I awoke to find a CD-writer hidden on top of the computer!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Lanfranc
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 06:36 PM

I've sometimes owned up to 12 guitars at a time, in my life I've probable owned a hundred or so. I currently have nine, including a Martin D18 and a Yairi classic I've kept since '68. Oh, and a mandolin, a baclama (mini bazouki), a bowed psaltery, an Appalachian dulcimer, a keyboard, a piano, and umpteen recorders, quenas, pan-pipes and sundry wind instruments.

I guess I have IAS, because I'm currently ogling another guitar ( a Taylor ) and a hammer dulcimer.

My wife seldom complains about the instruments - it's the cases! Virtually each of the above has its own individual case, and storage can be a problem. They can't go in the attic, because they might be needed at any time.

I have a friend with 35 guitars, but he has a big house and barns and things.

Dear Aunty Mudcat, what's a chap with CIPS (Compulsive Instrument Purchasing Syndrome) to do?


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Lady McMoo
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 06:50 PM

Great thread! I will print it out immediately and show it to Lady Mcmoo who has been soundly catigating, sorry castigating....no I think I prefer 'Catigating, me for my recent purchase of a second guitar. Hell...I only own two guitars, a mandolin and an octave mandolin...that's just peanuts compared with you guys...!

mcmoo


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 06:57 PM

Mcmoo, I hear you. At first I thought I too had GAS. Turns out I've only a mild case of GAS compared with some of these mudcatters. But then again, maybe I'm just at the gateway phase now...my guitar collection could lead me to harder and more dangerous instruments...


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Lady McMoo
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 07:09 PM

Yes indeed Guest. I once suffered from banjo addiction but managed to kick that. Then, even worse, I had a several year fight against diatonic accordionitis but managed once again to overcome that with the support of loved ones and several years of sessions with a trick cyclist.

Now that I know I genetically prone (my father and grandfather both suffered from severe multiple instrumentosis) I know I am treading a very thin line. I think I am now aware that four relatively soft instruments is my absolute limit.

Thanks again for reminding me of those harder instruments.

mcmoo


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: pastorpest
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 07:20 PM

I do not own even one guitar either. However I do own many recorders, a handful of them exceedingly expensive, many whistles in many keys (I have lost count of how many), a mandolin, an Irish bouzouki, an electronic keyboard, and a hammered dulcimer. I have the disease and have it bad. At least the playing skills can be used on each instrument when you stick to one kind of instrument or at least to one family of instruments. My wife is no help in curbing the disease because she has it also. When we are out together, especially on holidays, we bring out the worst acquisition desires in each other. So here is comfort for you Michael: there is always someone worse off than you! We do not fight: we just stay broke.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Kelida
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 10:26 PM

We have a Rennaisance (sp?) Festival just a few miles away from where I live in Ohio, and every year I seem to come home with a new instrument, usually some breed of whistle. Several of my friends have the same problem--my friend just bought bagpipes! So we've semi-decided to start a band so we can play there. That way we'll be too occupied to shop much--either that, or it will backfire horribly, and it'll be worse than it already is.

Speaking of addictions, I play clarinet, and I am a shameless reed addict--I even have some that are cherry-flavoured! I can't go to a music store without buying a reed of some kind, so as a consequence I have at least three dozen of the darn things laying around that I haven't even used yet. But hey, they're cheaper than buying actual instruments.

I do suppose, however, that I will eventually become immune to this cheap fix, and I will just have to buy instruments. . .


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 11:12 PM

Which fair Kalida? We do have a few here in Ohio. I'm not into the ren thing myself, but I build Hammered Dulcimers. BTW... Welcome to the 'Cat! Like kat sid, I too like your name!

So what about the rest of you? I've only gotten 3 orders for the 'Amish-Australian Pitchfork Moustache Tuner."

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Kelida
Date: 23 Mar 00 - 11:28 PM

I live in Cincinnati, and its simply called the Ohio Rennaisance Festival. If you know where the Ceasar's Creek flea market is, it's about 5 minutes away from there. Here's an address to the part of the site I have bookmarked:

http://www.renfestival.com/employment.html

I'm sure you can find the rest of the site from there. It's actually a very good fest, for all that it hasn't been there very long. I'm seventeen, and I've been going there for as long as I can remember, but I know it wasn't there when I was very small. You should check it out. There are some very good musicians there.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 03:35 AM

2 guitars, a fiddle, a mando, lap dulcimer, autoharp, a bodhran, a keyboard, harmonicas, a couple of whistles- I think that's about it. My theory is that if someone shows up without an instrument they can pluck one off the wall and join in. And sometimes that does happen. But it's also true that I LIKE the look of the wall. It's my version of Living Art.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Midchuck
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 08:48 AM

11 acoustic guitars (including one that's promised to my daughter but I have it here 'cause it needs fixing up first; one that lives with my daughter in Salt Lake so I don't have to deal with the hassle and risk of taking one on the plane; one that my wife just bought with the intention of learning to play; and one that's now consigned for sale at a local store)

4 fiddles (all my wife's - I'm not certain on the bow count at the moment)

1 hammered dulcimer (my wife's)

1 autoharp (my wife's)

1 octave mandolin (shared - neither of us can play it - yet)

1 upright bass (jointly owned)

1 acoustic bass guitar (my wife's)

a mess of PA equipment, small bass amp, small keyboard amp.

Oh, and an old player piano that needs a rebuild.

I think that's it as of now.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: jeffp
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 09:47 AM

5 acoustic guitars
1 electric guitar
1 bass guitar
2 guitar amps
1 PA system
4 whistles
1 Native American flute
1 fife
1 5-string banjo
1 mandolin
1 fiddle
1 puny tune (wooden ocarina-like instrument)
2 recorders
1 bodhran
2 keyboards
1 lap dulcimer
1 Anglo-German concertina

But I don't have a problem. No, I don't have a problem. No, I don't have.....................................

jeffp


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mbo
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 10:08 AM

Spaw, can I use it to tune MY moustache?

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Ma-K
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 12:27 PM

I don't have a problem.....It's all his fault....I was alright until he brought home that first MD...I really don't have a problem. 3Mds, 4 whistles, 1 kalimba, 1 lap harp,a broken autoharp,1 jaw harp, 3 harmonicas, and hours reading Mudcat. I DON'T HAVE A PROUBLEM!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Jon W.
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 01:58 PM

My fourth banjo arrived day before yesterday - I needed it because I've got a low voice and it's a long-neck. My wife says I've got sell one of the other ones. As for whistles, I've taken to buying them at souvenir shops. They're more useful than candle holders and similar knicknacks. So all in all it's three guitars (one was my Dad's and doesn't work), four banjos, five whistles (one is my wife's though), an electric bass currently on lone to my daughter, and two Jew's harps, and a Mt. Dulcimer I made for another daughter a couple years ago but she didn't want it. The two violins, viola, cello, and piano aren't mine so they don't count.

BTW, Jon F., who're you calling peculiar? I only did that once.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Terry Allan Hall
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 05:38 PM

Words to live by...

You can never have TOO many nice instruments...trust me!


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,Roger in Baltimore
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 05:42 PM

It is amazing to me how someone could title a thread "Justifying Multiple Guitars" and it has turned into a brag fest of my dobro's bigger than your dobro. Not to mention shameless merchandising by Catspaw and his cohorts.

Let me try to install some decorum by explaining that for many of us it is not GAS. GAS is a disease which can never be cured, but it can be controlled with proper counseling and support.

I do not have GAS. I own a Martin D-28 (1957 vintage) that I bought in a pawn shop for $185. Several people have offered to buy it from me for that price or a little more, but I won't part with it if for not other reason than its sentimental value. 'Twas the first guitar I purchase. I first learned on my brother's Gibson Les Paul, but he won't part with it despite playing only three or four times a year. I made the mistake of giving my first guitar, a Gibson classical, to my ex-wife. We were still married then, and I thought if I encouraged her guitar-playing she wouldn't mind my playing so frequently. It did not work and the guitar has fled with her to Austin, Texas where I bet it is gathering dust.

After my divorce, I purchased a beautiful Guild 12-String (1967 vintage) as a present to myself to cheer me up. It did help.

Next, I purchased a Mc Nally backpacker. My other guitars are too old to take to the beach or the campsite and are two large to play in most cars (not while driving, of course, but as a passenger). It sounds a little bit better than those plastic guitars they sell in toy stores, but it is well-fretted and has good tuners so at least it is tunable and playable.

I slacked off for a while, but then bought a modern National Steel. If you want to play blues, there is no substitute, so of course it was a justifiable purchase (made on impulse, I went in the store to buy strings).

I thought I was finished, but I wasn't. I first came on the Mudcat looking for the string guages on Lead Belly's Stella. Well, to put them on, you have to convert the nut. I couldn't do that to my old Guild 12, so I bought a used Alvarez 12 for a couple of bucks and had it worked up for the heavy gauge strings used for keeping your guitar tuned to C or B. This was a serious, scholarly project and an additional guitar was the only solution.

Next (oh there is more) I came to realize that I really didn't want to take my old guitars to many places because other people drool over them and I read the horror stories of Rick Fielding who has had 786 guitars stolen (some of them cost more $50!!!). When I was up that way, I thought I saw Duckboots in a pawn shop and that may be an explanation (someone has to pay the rent).

I am losing count, but I am near the end. I went to a SALE ! ! ! at Mars (a big box music store chain here in the 'States) just out of curiousity. I like to go there, because they do carry some nice acoustics and they truly let you play to your heart's content. Well, they had this Carver mini-guitar. It has a fiberglass back and a pick-up in it. Having been dissatisfied with my Mc Nally Backpacker, I realized this guitar actually had some tone to it and was fun to play. And it was on sale, reduced even below their discount price (does anybody pay list price?). I have found it a pleasure and I keep it in the bathroom for those times when I will be sitting for long periods without much to do. Of course, the other guitars would be too big for that (except the tone deaf Mc Nally), so this has been a wise purchase on my part and has saved my Martin and Guild from damage banging against the sink and the towel rack.

Well, I was allmost done, but the Mudcat had an auction of a vintage Kay guitar. It was so old, it didn't even have a serial number. They swore you could actually tune it and play it (though it was worthwhile just for the bright red painted body). I was the winning bidder and it now sits next to my computer so I can try out new songs from the Mudcat as soon as they are posted or I can use it to "remember" the chords to a song when there is a chord request. There is not much concern even thought my son often kicks it when he gets heavily into a game of Dark Star (I know he doesn't mean too, the kid's allright).

Of course, if one wants to play at fancy establishments like Starbucks it is vital to have sound amplification equipment. I bought a little "song writer" amp and the paraphanalia that goes with it. This was economically justifiable, you have to spend money to make money.

My house is like a pick factory, you never know where one is going to show up. My advice is buy in quantity, you know you're going to lose them.

I have bought a few other instruments, just to try them out, you know. I have an Appalacian Dulcimer that I take down from the wall (gee, it looks nice) and play once or twice a year). It serves as decoration and instrument (Marge even likes it). I have an autoharp that comes out every year or so. I never have replaced that highest C string. But it is important, if you are going to perform, that you bring some varied sound qualities to your performance. And I am serious about my playing out. I do at least four or five gigs a year. I also own a Mc Nally strumstick (esentially a mini-3 string- dulcimer). I keep that to encourage people who said they can't play anything.

Of course, for the monthly Pot-Luck singing sociery, a few "color" instruments are necessary. I really haven't gone overball, just some shaker eggs, a tambourine, some spoons, a nose flute, a kazoo, and a few other items. Of course, I have a wooden "train whistle" which is absolutely necessary if someone request "City of New Orleans" for the 12th time.

So, you see, this is not an addiction. Everything is under control. This is as practical a hobby as you can get. I did think Anni Clark was playing a fine black painted Takamine 12 string last night and I may go downtown and see if anyone is carrying one of them. Just a nice, showy, performance guitar. I am sure is was under $2000.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Kara
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 05:51 PM

I don't think 3 or 4 is too many. I had no guitar last week as it was in the menders after a nasty accident involving a broken guitar case and a very bad day. Now due to the fact that several of my friends think that I need a guitar more than they do I have 5, but 2 of them will have to go back ; what is really scarey are people like this dentist I meet one day. i find dentist fairly frightening at the best of times; He accousted me one day after a gig and insisted on showing his photo's of his guitar collection and telling me how much they all cost;He had some very beautifull guitars, but did not play any of them . Well I think that is sad for the guitars. while confessing I also have 2 mandolins 5 fiddles and a prehistoric electic organ that has the wildes wah wah setting I have ever heard, even if the harpichord tends to squeel.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MK
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 06:57 PM

I can relate Kara, and empathize with the dentist story.

In fact a while ago, I think I posted "people with expensive guitars that can't play them, or have the requisite talent worthy of such instruments'', were a pet peeve to me.

(I took some heat over that from a few 'Catters...who fell into that category. I think if you've got a mind to, you can offend just about anyone here --or anywhere else with whatever the hell opinions you post...regardless)

In any event, years ago, a woman I knew, had just received a nice divorce settlement, and she was hellbent on getting a baby grand piano for her living room. She did not even know how to play, nor was she interested in learning..She just thought of it as an elegant piece of furniture, that would complient her Penthouse condo, and that if on ocassion someone who happened to know how to play wanted to play it, so much the better.

Since I was the only piano player she knew, she wanted me to help her ''find a good one'', and offered to pay me as a consultant for the process. (I never ended up taking any money from her. Ahem!)In any event, after spending several days driving all over the place and playing umpteen number of baby grands, the one I personally liked best was an old Bechstein with a sound board made in 1917 or something, and it had been completely re-conditioned, and sounded great! (My personal preference is real chunky in the mid to bottom end, and prisitine --like glass in the higher end (kind of like Bruce Hornsby's Baldwin piano sound). She bought this thing for about 6 grand back in the mid 70s, and it just sat there. I would ocassionaly go over and play it, because it bothered me that it wasn't getting played and that she wasn't getting.....Ahem! In any event, I took it off her hands several years later......then sold it, and started buying acoustics. Instruments regardless of quality should be played, often...and really good instruments should be played even more often.    8-)


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 08:52 PM

Big RiB....How dare you accuse me of shameless merchandising? That would imply that I had any concept of shame in my ego.......which I don't. NOW, what is a shame is that sales aren't picking up. I can't believe that the Big RiB wouldn't want one of these little beauties?!?!?! So c'mon RiB...cough up a few bucks and you can be first guy who's not really in Baltimore to have an "Amish-Australian Moustache Tuner." I kinda' see you with the Mudcat Model myself. Send me the cash and it'll be on its way!!! Not necessarily to you, but I'll put it in the mail and let it fend for itself.

AND WHAT OF THE REST OF YOU...........True nuts like yourselves can hardly be without one!!! Its the talk of anywhere you whip it out. And if you whip it out anywhere that someone sees you, you're going to jail, ya' fockin' preevert............But back to the Moustsche Tuner...WHAT A DEVICE!!!! Be the envy of everyone when you show them what a wondrous thing can be had for only $29.95 (cash)........BUY IT NOW!!! SUPPLIES ARE LIMITED**

Spaw
**by the number we sell


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mooh
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 09:12 PM

After reading all the above I've come to the conclusion that if I had a bigger home, there wouldn't appear to be as many instruments, and/or I could have my own music room. The constant reminder of instruments by them being in the way might be worse than the instruments themselves. So let's all go house shopping. Oh, I forgot, I'm poor...but I can't sell anything...


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 10:17 PM

Spaw, are you trying to sell us a bill of goods?? Amishmen don't even wear moustaches- beards, yes, but no moustaches. But maybe they do in Australia?


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Art Thieme
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 11:30 PM

For me there was never, ever, any way for me to justify having multiple guitars or banjos or anything. Only had 2 of each at any one time --- one to have on the road for giggs and one to have in the repair shop when I've closed the trunk lid on it and crushed it all to hell. Now, I'm down to one guitar (nicely repaired by Jan Burda in Berian Springs, Michigan). It's a D-76 Martin that I'd converted to a 9-string guitar a while ago. Just sold the 000-18. Paid our rent for 3 months...

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Bert
Date: 12 Apr 00 - 02:39 PM

Have to refresh this thread because, for my birthday, I just got myself a Puerto Rican Cuatro. (Does anyone know how to play the damned thing?)

Which is in addition to all my other junk...
7 guitars, an Oud, a Santur, a keyboard, 2 Organs, a Concertina, Maraccas, a French horn, A Clarinette, an Apache Drum, a tambourine, a 1/4 size fiddle, a gutbucket and assorted toy/tourist items.

I must confess, though, that many of them are not in working order.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: JedMarum
Date: 12 Apr 00 - 03:31 PM

but it's not a habit, Bert; you could give it up anytime, right??


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,Kaleb
Date: 12 Apr 00 - 05:59 PM

I find that if I loan some of my instruments to friends, it feels like I have fewer instruments and therefore I feel completely justified in acquiring more. :-)

At least now I know I'm not the only one afflicted with this condition.

Floating somewhere around my house now are 4 5-string banjos, 2 4-string banjos, 2 guitars, 3 bodhrans(which I am liscensed to carry in public), 1 mandolin, 1 Highland bagpipe, 1 set of small pipes, 1 fiddle, 4 penny whistles, 1 low D whistle, 1 kalimba, 1 concertina and 1 hammered dulcimer (which I find much more enjoyable to turn upside down and clog on)

-Kaleb


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Bert
Date: 12 Apr 00 - 06:02 PM

Why would I wan't to do that Jed?


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MK
Date: 12 Apr 00 - 06:21 PM

Two things a man never loans:

- his wife
- his guitar*




(*There are ocassional exceptions, if the borrower happens to be Rick Fielding.*BG*)


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: kendall
Date: 12 Apr 00 - 06:23 PM

I'm happy to report that I have gone through, and survived this "phase". I've owned them all from Mossman, to Guild, Gibson, Martin, Ibanez and Yamaha. All I have left is a 1983 Taylor, and a 1974 Apollonio 12 string. The only thing I want now is a good 5 string banjo. It's ironic that now I dont have a wife, and I could hang guitars all over the walls, I no longer want to.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Bert
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 10:31 AM

I would like to point out, that as far as acquisition goes "Birthday presents don't count". It's the same rule as "Birthday Cake has no calories".


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Marion
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 10:35 AM

I don't have IAS - just one guitar, one fiddle and bow, two whistles (in different keys) and one harmonica. In fact, when I bought an instrument and didn't like it, I got rid of it right away (how's that tabor pipe coming along, Chet? Have your neighbours started a petition yet?)

But I am terribly fond of my musical paraphernalia - I have acquired very good cases for my fiddle and guitar, an electronic tuner, metronome, muting clamp, dampit, capo, external mike for my ghettoblaster, shoulder rest, picks I never use, two rosin cakes. Also, I sewed carrying bags for my small instruments, and knotted tails for my fiddle, and embroidered and sewed a guitar strap. Then of course, there's that huge pile of papers with sheet, tab, and chords that I'm going to learn someday.

And Michael K. - I feel your pain concerning people who have instruments they don't deserve. My grandfather and great-grandfather were Quebecois fiddlers, and my grandmother now has their fiddle - a quite nice-sounding one. I am now the only fiddler in the family, and the only person who is passionate about music, so in my mind I have some claim on the fiddle. However, the problem with old heirloom fiddles is that you have to play them with your penis, so I can't inherit it.

I wouldn't be quite so bitter about it if the fiddle were going to one of my male cousins who play electric guitar - at least they have some concept that instruments are precious things and should be played and cared for. Instead, the fiddle is going to my uncle, who doesn't know a note from... well, just about anything. At one point he thought he would try to learn to play it, so he PAINTED frets on the neck. Then to add injury to insult, he CRAZY-GLUED the tuning pegs in place. I don't need to tell you my opinion of this man - I'm sure that last sentence has generated a little instrument rage among Mudcatters.

Marion, the bitter gadget girl


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,DanD
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 11:13 AM

I guess I started late 'cause I've only got 2 acoustics, a 5 string banjo, a 6 string banjo (too lazy to learn how to play the 5 string) one tin whistle, one chanter, two harmonicas and a few kazoos. But there must be something genetic about it. My son, one electric, the other day said : "Hey Dad, I've been looking at acoustic/electrics..."


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: tar_heel
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 11:19 AM

EVERYTIME I OPEN MY CLOSET FOR SOMETHING,OUT FALLS THE GUITARS,MANDOLIN,DULCIMER,BASS FIDDLE,BANJO,MUSIC STANDS,MUSICAL STAND HOLDER,SPOUND EQUIPMENT,MICROPHONE STANDS,ETC.,................SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM HERE? (IN CASE YOU ARE WORRIED,ALL THE INSTRUMENTS ARE IN good PROTECTIVE CASES!!)BUT AGAIN...WHAT'S THE PROBLEM HERE???


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Wesley S
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 11:26 AM

Marion - If you need someone to hold down your uncle while you horse whip him I'll be happy to volunteer. Let me guess - did he crazy glue the tuning pegs of the fiddle so it would stay in tune?? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. At least my grandfathers fiddle is being taken care of by my brother - he'll take care of it properly. "I feel your pain".


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 11:33 AM

Chuck, the problem is that you must move to a place with bigger closets. Priorities my friend.

Michael K. I appreciate the trust you have in me (vis. instruments) but I think you should consult your wife about the latter.

Actually I'm thinking about "scaling down" a bit, instrument-wise. A few of them are going on the trading block. Anyone interested in an original Maccafferi Plastic arch top in great shape? A Takamine acoustic bass?

Rick


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Bert
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 01:33 PM

Marion, That's a real horror story, sent shivers all down my spine! Worse than anything that Stephen King has written.

You're only recourse is to write a song about it and sing it at every family gathering.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mooh
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 03:27 PM

I listed most of my instruments on some other thread a while ago, so lets talk about what we'd like to get!

An acoustic bass, cittern, a real piano, and drums...

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 07:43 PM

Most of you appear to be really sick. Michael appears to be on the right track with his list of possible causes of this affliction. You need to look way back into your past to understand why you have accumulated such a large number of musical instruments.

My problem seems to have started way back in kindergarten or first grade and the rhythm band. For some reason when instruments were passed out I always ended up with rhythm sticks. As I sat there on the floor, tapping on a square piece of wood with the sticks, I would dream of playing some of the exotic instruments like the triangle or, best yet, the tambourine. I vowed that when I grew up I would acquire as many instruments as possible and play them whenever I damned well pleased.

Unfortunately there is no known cure for this disorder. In order to get along in society you need to develope logical reasons for each instrument in your collection. I have developed some of the following:

You need a small travel guitar for camping boat trips, etc.
Everyone needs a classical guitar with the wide neck.
Nothing sounds like a Jumbo 12 string.
"Bells of Rhymney" just doesn't sound right on a six string
A vintage instrument is a good financial investment
Etc., Etc., You need to put time into rationalization~~

If you buy an instrument and your wife/husband doesn't know about it you might try a method that I've often used. Place the instrument where just a small portion of it can be seen. Each week or two allow a bit more of the instrument to be exposed. After a while the instrument will be excepted as having always been there. This method may be somewhat difficult with a stand up bass.

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MK
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 08:46 PM

..speaking of which Rick, I've been in contact with a gentleman in Chicago who claims to have what he terms ''the holy grail'' of Martin OOO-28s. He has a 1948 OOO-28 in 9/10 all original condition, that he says is the best he's played, and that he apparently play 200 40s and 50s OOO-28s before he purchased this one quite a ways back....Says it's never required a neck reset and is perfect, and practically mint condition, with a little amount of laquer checking.

He wants 9500.00 US (which would translate into approximately 13,500.00 CDN.)

I find this price exhorbitant. I've researched this model from this time period, and think a more appropriate range in price would be somewhere between 5,000.00 and 6,500.00 U.S.....since it is not a pre-war Martin.

Others here knowledgable with vintage Martins agree or disagree?

(At $5,000.00 U.S. I'd definitely consider it and jump in my car and drive to Chicago tomorrow, but what he's asking seems ludicrous to me...or am I missing something?)


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: kendall
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 10:36 PM

He's nuts!! a whole guitar wouldn't be worth that much, let alone one of those 6 string ukeleles!! P>T> Barnham was right...


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mooh
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 10:48 PM

I love old guitars, but I don't own any. I discovered that I can get fabulous instruments from individual luthiers, for a fraction of the price. That's right, lots of great guitars don't cost the world. If you're in for it, check out Thompson, Beneteau, Schwartz, Gurian etc... I used to think I was just consoling myself but now I would put any of my guitars up against classic vintage items. Acquired taste or not, nine grand would but three custom guitars of the highest order from my favourite builder. Yes, if I had the coin I'd run out and buy a D-45 just to say I have one, but it's no longer necessary to my GAS.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Easy Rider
Date: 14 Apr 00 - 09:49 AM

Mooh, I think you are on the right track. I have played some truly superb prewar Martins, but a couple of the custom, luthier built new guitars I've also played have been just as good and much cheaper. Even the Gibson J-50 I bought new thirty-six years ago is turning into a fine, vintage instrument.

Start your own tradition. Buy the best new instruments and hold them long enough for them to become Vintage collectors items.

( [=O=)===={:::]


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Bert
Date: 14 Apr 00 - 11:21 AM

Let's see Easy Rider, if I was to buy one now and keep it for fifty years, by then I would be 111.

Now that's an interesting side effect - Buying a new guitar will make you live to a ripe old age!!!

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mooh
Date: 14 Apr 00 - 12:57 PM

Howdy-do,

Further to a note above, for the amount of coin required to buy a vintage guitar, I could likely get the guitjo and manjo and octave manjo and acoustic bass and piano and 9 string and tenor guitar and case of cheap wine and mandobass and soprano guitar and bodhran and drum kit and microphones and mixer and cabs and Flying V and true love and world peace and classical guitar and autoharp and squeezebox and 5 string banjo and Marshall stack and Dobro and ... well not in that order necessarily, but ... well let me dream will ya!

I really admire these folk that do it all with one beatup guitar of no real value to anyone else, without driving me or themselves nuts, on the street in some huge city for spare change from passers-by. Not that they mightn' mind a vintage guitar but they prove one can do it without. Passion, need, desire, desperation, and love all have more importance than "vintage".

I still want that D-45.

Peace (and lust), Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MK
Date: 16 Apr 00 - 04:16 PM

By the way, just noticed that Elderly Instruments has a 1942 all original (except for replacement bridge) D-45, for the bargain basement price of $160,000.00 U.S....which translates into approximately $240,000.00 Canadian (where I am).

Pity that it will be snapped up by a foreign (most likely Asian) investor, and that once acquired it will remain in its case, and stored in a vault and for intents and purposes be treated like a museum piece.

(...Perhaps if I sell my house, liquidate all my assets, sign the divorce papers which would be imminent), and camp out in Rick Fielding's back yard.....I just might be able to swing it. *BG*)

(Besides an investor or recording artist, who in their right mind would pay this, for a guitar?)


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mooh
Date: 16 Apr 00 - 04:26 PM

Michael K, I just crapped myself. That's alot of coin for some well assembled kindling. But I wish it was my kindling with one qualifier. It has to sound good, real good, no, fantastic, no...heavenly. Being of sound mind however (my wife, employer, and doctor might dispute this claim) I'd rather have the cash. The price, heck, the whole concept is nuts.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MK
Date: 16 Apr 00 - 04:34 PM

Mooh......for THAT price, it should not only be an amazing instrument in every aspect, but it should replace my wife, in every aspect.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mooh
Date: 16 Apr 00 - 04:37 PM

MK, I'm glad you said it. My wife doesn't share my fetish and doesn't see how a guitar's curves can be sexy...

Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MK
Date: 16 Apr 00 - 04:58 PM

Well Mooh, I have 4 of them. (3 Martins and a Collings).

The wife has made it very clear that I cannot add to this collection....but...there are two more I want...one being an older (pre-1969) OOO-28 (but not for 9500.00 as mentioned in a previous message here) and a 45 or 50 year old D-18....and I have a feeling that when these come along (and they will), they will end up residing at Rick's where I'll visit them and play them...until I can figure a way to bring 'em home...


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mooh
Date: 16 Apr 00 - 11:08 PM

My name is Mooh and I'm a guitaraholic. Nine, but who's counting?

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Midchuck
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 04:40 PM

Two interesting things about the revival of this thread:

1) It was revived, as old threads often seem to be, by a spammer. But in this case, the spam was PERFECTLY appropriate to the thread as a whole. You'd almost think the spammer had actually read it.

2) I mentioned, 10 years ago, having 11 guitars. I STILL have 11 guitars, exactly. But, unless I'm missing something, I only still have one guitar that I had then - the Guild D25 from the '70s that I leave out west with the kids so I'll have one to play when I visit without having to haul one on the plane or borrow one from them. And there's quite a bunch that I didn't own then and don't own now, but came and went in the interim.

Peter


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Bounty Hound
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 06:11 PM

Ralph McTell once said, 'a man who knows how many guitars he owns, hasn't got enough'

Words of wisdom!

5 Guitars in the household (7 if you include my son's 2 half size)
2 Bouzoukis
2 Banjos
3 Mandolins
1 Dulcimer
2 Autoharps
and a concertina.

John


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Amos
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 10:11 PM

I have three--a twelve string, a D-35 and a classical. My god...I think I am a conservative!!


A


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Gurney
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 10:45 PM

Didn't this thread strike the wellspring of acquisition!!

I only have 4 guitars, so there, and two of those don't work. One was my baby for more than 50 years, now breaking up, another was almost new but faulty from the luthier, I have one old F-hole that is too tinny-sounding for my taste but it looks delicious, and my new box.

I confess, I've been looking on the web.....


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 10:56 PM

Three full-size guitars. Two classics, one, a Juan Alvarez, made in Madrid, and a "Guitarra Artisana," made in Japan and imported by José Oribé of San Diego. The Japanese guitar as actually a bit better than the Spanish-made on.

The flagship of the fleet is a flamenco guitar that I ordered directly from Arcangel Fernandez in Madrid in 1961. Outrageous instrument! It's value has appreciated over the years to the point where I'm almost afraid to take it out of the house!

And I have three travel guitars, two nylon string and one steel string.

And--I keep looking at the Troubadour UK website and drooling over the "Blondel II" cittern-guitar.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MissouriMud
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:49 PM

I have three main guitars that I use regularly:
1938 Gibson L-00 - newer top done by Gibson (for Old Time and Blues)
1995 Martin D28 (for Bluegrass)
2006 Martin 000-28 Norman Blake (nice finger picking and pretty stuff)

And five secondary ones, that I use (or tinker with) occasionally:
Banged Up mid 1970's Gibson MK 54 for slide,tough bars and bad weather
Cheap 1980s Yamaha 12 String for doing cool 12 string stuff
2005 Manuel Rodriguez Classical (Flamenco)
1995 electric Washburn Stratocaster knock off
$25 "Global" parlor guitar for travel (like a tinny baritone uke)

Plus a 1960 Vega long neck banjo to remind me where and when I started

And yes I want more: its been at over 3 years since I bought the last and its killing me - I almost bought a cheap Dobro resophonic recently (but a National would be better), and that vintage D-45 mentioned above sounds nice, as does a good Gibson Les Paul ....


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: John P
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 04:24 PM

My main guitar is a Lowden. I also have an Art and Lutherie "camping" guitar. And . . .

Washburn electric guitar
Matin tenor guitar
Sobell cittern
Gibson mandolin
oud

I never felt any need for more than one of anything.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 11:56 AM

A friend of mine is a collector.

His advice: never put all the collected items into one place where your spouse can count them.

Russ (Permanent GUEST)


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mark Ross
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 03:00 PM

I have 4 guitars, my OOOO Schmuckler, an Orlando 12 string(set-up Lead Belly style, tuned to B), a Morgan Monroe squareneck resonator, and a cheap classical that resides at She Who Must Be Obeyed's nieces' house for her 9 year old son to play around with. Also, a 1927 Mastertone archtop banjo(converted to 5 string), a couple of mandolins, 3 autoharps, a ukelin, a couple of ukeleles, and God knows how many harmonicas, kazoos, jew's harps, and who knows what else.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Midchuck
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 04:52 PM

GUITARS OWNED AS OF JULY, 2010:

1) 2003 Mario Proulx "OM-D." Englemann Spruce top (amberburst); Black Walnut back, sides and neck. Neck was reshaped by Brian Kimsey, the original owner.

2) Late 2002/early 2003 Huss and Dalton CM. Essentially an OM with dreadnought depth and soft cutaway. East Indian Rosewood back and sides, Engelmann Spruce top, Maple binding. Just bought in June, 2010.

3) 2007 Rainsong OM1000. (All carbon fiber.) Purchased new at Elderly, Aug. '07, on Montana trip. My usual "road" guitar for trio gigs and other playing "out."

4) 1996 Collings 000-2H, Sitka/Indian. eBay purchase May, 2002.

5) Alvarez-Yairi Jumbo Baritone Acoustic. Bought new, winter '07.

6) Trinity College Tg-202 12-fret Cutaway 000: Purchased new from Vintage Fret Shop, Ashland, NH, in July, '08. 12-fret (but NOT slothead) 000, with cutaway.Sitka/Rosewood. The top is solid. I believe the back and sides are as well. Kept permanently in DADGAD.

7) "The Loar" LH200 small-body sunburst.

8) "No-name" jumbo 7-string. Sitka and Indian; I think the back and sides are laminates.

9) 1970s Guild D25M. Kept in Bozeman, Mt., to avoid having to fly with a guitar.

10) Guild M20 Reissue (early '00s)

11) Silver Creek T-170 (Spruce/Rosewood OM) Purchased from Musicians Friend, Jan., '10. "Stupid Deal of the Day" - but stupid for whom?

My wife owns a (believed) 1965 Martin 0-18, restored by bigchuck after long-term storage in a hot closet.

My wife also owns five or six fiddles (five here and one in Bozeman, I think), a Knilling "Jazz Bass" (thin-bodied upright bass, works as an acoustic in the living room or amplified for gigs), two autoharps, and a hammered dulcimer. We jointly own a Freshwater octave mandolin that needs some work, now in possession of bigchuck.

How do we do it without being wealthy? We both have always had honest jobs, but have been playing gigs on the side for the last 20 years or so. We have an agreement that each is at liberty to squander his/her gig earnings as he/she pleases. And instruments are the principal vice of both of us.

Peter


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 05:59 PM

The important thing is, not how many instruments you own, but how many you play.

If you are paying serious money for instruments that just stay in their cases, then you have a problem. Particularly if you are getting them on credit.

Do what I do. Invite friends over and let them play the guitars.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 06:04 PM

Justifying multiple guitars is like justifying multiple orgasms. Some folks is luckier than others.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: kendall
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 06:20 PM

At my age I don't feel that I have to justify anything I do or buy.

One guitar is just not enough any more than one tool is enough. No 6 string can do what a 12 can, and vice versa. I'm happy with the two I have.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Midchuck
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 09:33 PM

Kendall, you have two things that are too good for you - Jacqui and the 12-string.

I have about half a dozen that are too good for me - Kris and four or five of my guitars.

P.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,fogie
Date: 28 Jul 10 - 07:13 AM

I think the thing to do is buy the very best guitar of every type and sell off all the old ones-or maybe keep one for falling over and lending at sessions. I've got 5 and four basses. Still looking for the ultimate archtop. I rationalised my electrics by buying a top of the range PRS.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Jul 10 - 03:40 PM

Don't feel bad..I used to have 14, now I have four. All serve their purpose...All are rare. All sound extraordinary.

GfS


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Bruce MacNeill
Date: 29 Jul 10 - 06:14 AM

I have 4 currently:

1959 Gibson L7-C which was my first real guitar. Play jazz stuff
Late 80s Alvarez-Yairi CY-116 Classical. Play classical stuff
1991 Gibson ES-165. Play amplified jazz stuff
New Martin DC-16GTE. Medium width neck means I can almost play any style on it amp'd or not which makes it convenient for playing out.

Other than the L7-C my wife bought them for me so I guess I've explained the need enough. Had a 12-string but I gave it to a niece last year because I'm not strong enough to play it anymore anyway.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Mooh
Date: 29 Jul 10 - 10:21 AM

A lot has changed in the ten years since I apparently killed this thread. Though I still have the Beneteaus, I added another, 3 House acoustics, a Cox mandolin to go with the Moon, an electric piano, innumerable electric guitars, and have gone through many electric guitars and basses along the way. It has also contributed to me going full-time as an instructor of private lessons.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 12:49 PM

No need to justify multiple guitars at all. What's really pathetic is how some idiots justify multiple husbands and/or wives!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Stringsinger
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 03:20 PM

MK, if you are playing all of these instruments and enjoying them, that's great. Good for you!

The thing I tend to dislike, being a guitar player, is when someone owns a guitar and doesn't play it, just has it around for show.   A lot of "owners" drive up the market by causing the prices for instruments to inflate and they look at the instruments as "investments" without playing them. I think this is not good for those of us who play and enjoy playing our instruments.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 03:44 PM

There has been some change for me from my previous post. I have kept my Martin. My Guild twelve was stolen. I tried a cheap substitute, but I did not keep it long, because it was adequate, but not interesting. I went to a store event in the DC suburbs to watch several guitarist touring for Taylor. The store had a sunburst maple 12 on sale because Taylor was changing to the new Expression system. I calle home and asked my wife if I could bring a guitar home and she agreed. It is a beautiful guitar in sound and appearance. I sold the National. I could never really control it. My youngest son kept begging me to go to the second floor bedroom to play it. It was also part of an agreement with the wife to limit the collection. The only other significant guitar is a ladder-braced Michael Hauver 12 string. It is built to be tuned to C or B. That makes quite a tonal difference. So I have three guitars which I play regularly. I still have the Carver, but it is no longer in the bathroom and I seldom travel. So I have a few instruments that mostly gather dust. The right thing to do would be to sell them, but I guess I am too lazy. Maybe when I retire and have more time.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 03:48 PM

I'm down to 6 workin' on four 'cause one of the 6 is at the consignment shop and another is soon to be... That will leave me not quite as conservative as my buddy, Amos, but movin' in that direction...

So, let's do a little inventory:

1. *Washburn ES10* reso with Paul Beard Cone (Google Beard Guitars) and Fishmann pickup...

2. #30 John Lowe designed and built "Lowebow Purgatory" (Google Lowebow) cigar box with 3 electric pickups...

3. The "Back Porch" 5 string slab 'n neck homemade which was the prototype to the geetars used in Danny Glover's movie "The Honeydripper"...

and...

...still being fixed, the mid 60s S. Yairi parlor acoustic... When I get that back my Hohner acoustic goes to the consigment shop, too...

That will leave me with 4...

No, make that 5... I forgot about the 30s Dobro built tenor resonator which will go on ebay when I find someone who knows how to do that kinda stuff... Nice little (and rare) reso but ain't got no balls so it can go!!!

That will leave me with 4 and that's all I need or want... Down from about 15 ten years ago...

B~


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 04:05 PM

1980 Custom made Brazilian Rosewood 'Stratocaster', made by 'Mighty Mite'. It is a left hand body, but strung normally.(I play that way)

1963 Martin D-21, customized neck, with L.R. Baggs pick-up and pre-amp. Flawless!(not a scratch on it!)

Thomsley Sea Turtles(Canadian luthier, who hand made guitars with Jean Paul Larrivee), hardly used, Flawless!

Gibson 335. Flawless!

Larrivee, Presentation Model, circa 1980-81, pristine

1965 Gretsch, Chet Atkins Country Gentleman ......

But then, I have some keyboards, as well......golly shucks,(kicks a pebble)

GfS


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Clontarf83
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 11:18 PM

I think what matters most is the relationship you build with your guitar. If you play it often and lovingly, your guitar will respond to you. If you own more than two, I'll bet it's like being a bigamist...

The only reason I own two guitars, is I use one for travelling, or for gigs when I can do some open tuning material. I hate retuning in front of an audience, especially when a string snaps.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Aug 10 - 02:49 AM

I don't expect other people to justify their smoking, drinking, expensive holidays, expensive cars, expensive clothes blah-de-blah-de-blah. I don't do/have any of those, and I'm buggered if I'm going to justify having more than one guitar.

My money, my business. End of.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: banjoman
Date: 26 Aug 10 - 05:08 AM

i early Lakewood, 2 Washburn 12 string, 1 Ovation Folklore, 1Yamaha Classic electric, 1 National , 3 Classical plus several in various stages of repair. Plus about 20 5 string banjos ranging from C to E and I wouldn't part with any of them despite what my wife says. She has a collection of about 100 various whistles & recorders. All these instruments are played at some time or other.
Oh! I forgot the Harp, and the 3 acoustic violins, 1 electric violin, 1 mandolin, 1 bouzouki, and the fretless civil war banjo on the living room wall, and the five harmonicas, jaws harp, stylophone, melodica, and loads more which I have forgotten.


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Aug 10 - 06:17 AM

hi

I agree with backwoodsman. If you want to collect guitars ( or anything ) just do it.

Some people collect snails !!!!!

I don't actually go out to collect guitars but over many many years I have acquired several and still have three and I am looking for another.

This time I want a classical guitar as I think it might be easier on my aging fingers than the steel stings are these days.

Cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: Justifying Multiple Guitars
From: Tim Chesterton
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 09:38 AM

Wow - I feel pretty conservative! I only have two. One, my pride and joy, is my Larrivée OM-03E, a simply lovely instrument that I play every day and use for all my gigs. The other is a Seagull S6 Folk with no pickup in it that I keep around for song circles and take on camping holidays and so on.


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