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Subject: Lyr Add: WOKE UP THIS MORNING WITH MY MIND... From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 15 Jan 02 - 12:45 PM I've been singing Woke Up This Morning With My Mind Standing On Jesus for many years, learned from a recording by the Roosevelt Brothers. Sandy & Caroline Paton tell me that they knew it as ..with my mind standing on freedom. I never heard it done that way, but it sure makes sense. The song is one of those that you just change one line, and then repeat the rest of the verse..
Woke up this morning with my mind, standing on Jesus
change first line to: Jerry
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: masato sakurai Date: 15 Jan 02 - 09:28 PM "I Woke Up This Morning with My Mind on Freedom" by Ben Gay is on Sing For Freedom: The Story of the Civil Rights Movement Through Its Songs (Smithsonian Folkways – 40032). The printed music is in Sing for Freedom (Sing Out, 1990, p. 83) and in Irwin Silber, This Singing Land (Amsco, 1965, p. 46). ~Masato
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: Haruo Date: 16 Jan 02 - 12:18 AM I've always sung "with my mind stayed on Jesus [aka freedom]", not "standing". Hmmm. Liland |
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Subject: Lyr Add: WOKE UP THIS MORNING From: masato sakurai Date: 16 Jan 02 - 01:05 AM The Weavers' version of "Woke Up This Morning" is: ^^
WOKE UP THIS MORNING
I woke up this morning with my mind
Walking and talking with my mind
Thinking and moving with my mind
Walking, walking with my mind on freedom (2 times)
I met my brother on the street
Singing and praying with my mind
I woke up this morning with my mind
(From: The Weavers: Wasn't That a Time, Vanguard (Japan) KICP 375/378) ~Masato |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: Rolfyboy6 Date: 16 Jan 02 - 01:24 AM When we sang it in the civil rights picket lines in the 60s we sang it
"Woke up this morning with my mind STAYED on Freedom." And you'd really work the 'STAYYED' with multiple syllables or melisma. Very much traditional congregation singing, sometimes with multiple parts too. Kinda depended who was on the line at the time. |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: Genie Date: 28 Jan 02 - 08:55 PM There's also a version of this in "Singing The Living Tradition," which is the U-U hymnal that was published in the 1980's. Also, the song is in "Rise Up Singing." Genie |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: dick greenhaus Date: 28 Jan 02 - 09:06 PM Actually, if one wishes to use folk music as a basis for Civil Rights (or Union, or whatever) songs, one is limited to those familiar songs that lend themselves to unpracticed group singing. Sort of leaves you with gospel (and/or spiritual) and work songs (including shanties.) |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THERE IS POWER IN THE BLOOD From: Jim Dixon Date: 29 Jan 02 - 11:54 AM Since this song doesn't seem to be in DT or in any thread, I decided to copy it from the CyberHymnal. It is referred to in Stewie's post above. ^^ THERE IS POWER IN THE BLOOD (Lewis E. Jones, 1899)
Would you be free from the burden of sin?
CHO: There is power, power, wonder working power
Would you be free from your passion and pride?
Would you be whiter, much whiter than snow?
Would you do service for Jesus your King? |
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Subject: ADD: WHEN THE BATTLE'S OVER From: wysiwyg Date: 22 Apr 05 - 08:00 AM Re-posted here from the African American Spirituals Permathread: Subject: RE: African-American Spirituals Permathread From: Azizi - PM Date: 28 Dec 04 - 09:40 AM I woke up this morning with spirituals on my mind. I think it's because of the sixtieschick's thread on the sprituality of 60s music. Thanks, sixtieschick! Here are three spirituals that I don't think are listed in this Permathread yet, although they may be listed under a different name. I remember singing the first and third song in my church and with my family in Atlantic City, New Jersey in the 19502-1960s {and of course, afterwards whenever they come to mind}. I recall the second spiritual as being introduced to my church in the early 1960s by a Southern choir {from Mississippi?}, although the church may have sung it before that time. I'm writing down the lyrics that I remember. Of course, like all [most?] African American spirituals, these are open-ended songs with no fixed verses except maybe the first verse. Therefore new verses could be substituted or added, but the pattern remained the same. All these songs were sang in unison, except perhaps for the words in parenthesis. ^^ I'LL BE ALRIGHT I'll be alright. I'll be alright. I'll be alright some day-a-a {Oh-o},[We-ll]If [deep]in my hea-a-art I do believe, I'll be alright some day. I'll see His face. I'll see His face. I'll see His face some day-a-a Oh-o, if in my heart etc. I'll be with Him. I'll be with Him. I'll be with Him some day-a-a Oh-o etc. We'll all be free. We'll all be free. We'll all be free. some day-a-a Oh,o etc. --- Note that unlike the standard African American pronunciation of "a" ="ah" {as in "Ah 1 and ah 2 and you know what to do}; the "a" in "some day-a-a" is an elongation of the "a" sound in the word "day". I have read and I believe that "I'll Be Aright" is the basis of the spiritual which is the basis of the Civil Rights song "We Shall Overcome". However, "We'll Overcome" has a much faster tempo than "We Shall Overcome". --- ^^ WE'LL OVERCOME We'll overcome. We'll ovecome. We'll overcome. some day-a-a {Oh-o} [Well-ll]If [deep]in my hea-a-rt I do not yield, [I do believe] We'll overcome someday. We'll see His face. We'll see His face. We'll His face some day-a-a Oh-o, if in my heart I do not yield. We'll see His face someday. I'll be with Him. I'll be with Him. I'll be with Him some day-a-a Oh-o, etc. We'll see His face. We'll see His face. We'll see His face some day-a-a Oh-o, etc. We'll wear ah crown. We'll wear ah crown. We'll wear ah crown some day-a-a Oh-o, etc --- Often, my church and family sung this next spiritual after "I'll Be Alright". ^^ WHEN THE BATTLE'S OVER {And} When the battle's over we shall wear ah crown. We shall wear ah crown Yes, we shall wear ah crown. When the battle's over we shall wear ah crown in the New Jerusalem. [pronounced Jah-ROO-sah-lem] Wear ah crown, wear ah crown, wear ah bright and shining crown. And when the battle's over we shall wear ah crown in the new Jerusalem. When the battle's over we shall be with Him We shall be with Him We shall be with Him And when the battle's over we shall be with Him in the New Jerusalem. Be with Him Be with Him We shall all-ll be with Him And when the battle's over We shall be with Him in the New Jerusalem. Well, when the battles over we shall be all be free We shall all be free We shall all be free. And when the battle's over we shall all be free in the New Jerusalem We'll be free We'll be free We shall ah-ll be-e free And when the battle's over we shall all be free in the New Jerusalem. And when the battle's over we shall be at peace. etc.. ---- Hopefully, someone can point to recordings and Internet sound clips of these spirituals... They are full with history and wonderful to sing with a full soul. |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: Azizi Date: 22 Apr 05 - 09:12 AM In the junior [student] NAACP branch that I was in the early 1960's [Atlantic City, New Jersey] we sung "I woke up this mornin with my mind STAYED on freedom" the same way Rolfyboy6 noted in his post dated 16 Jan 02 - 01:24 AM. And I would like to publicly thank Rolfyboy6 and others at Mudcat [you know who you are] who risking their lifes and limbs participating in Civil Rights sit-ins, ride-ins, marches, and picket line demonstrations. In Atlantic City, New Jersey we sung that song and others in support of those who were actually 'fighting' for our rights-and working to make the USA be the best it could be.. In a sense you could say that we sung Civil Rights songs as folk songs, though we would have vehemently rejected that categorization. Unfortunately, it has been my experience that Civil Rights songs are totally unknown to most of today's African American children, youth, and adults who didn't live through that time. I'm sad to say that I would expect that real surveys of this population would confirm my personal experiences that most contemporary Black people in the USA have no knowledge of these songs. So for the record, here are a couple of other Civil Rights songs that I remember that may have been based on spirituals or gospel songs [Sorry if these are posted on Mudcat somewhere else]: "Keep Your Eye On The Prize" verse 1 Paul and Silas bound in jail with no money to forgo their bail Keep your eye on the prize and hold on hold on- [optional repeat] chorus: Hold on Hold on * Keep your eye on the prize and hold on hold on. *"on" is elongated sounding like "au-au-aun" I vauguely remember another verse that went something like one and one they make two tell you want I'm gonna do Keep my eye on the prize and hold on. Hold on I also remember that we added this floating verse that is often found in spirituals that we sang in church: If religion was a thing that money could buy the rich would live and the poor would die. Keep your eye on the prize and hold on. hold on. I can't remember if these other floating verses were actually sung with this song, but I automatically added them in my mind: Went to the valley but I didn't go to stay my soul got happy and I stayed all day Keep your eyes etc. If you don't believe I been redeemed just follow me down to Jordan's stream Keep your eyes etc. **** The "I went to the valley" couplet is probably based on the "I went to the river/but I couldn't get across/paid 5 dollars for an old grey horse" ante-bellum African American floating verse that was used in religious and non-religious songs. One common refrain to that song was: Poor mourner {mona} You will be free when the Good Lord sets you free. -- So it is fitting that "I went to the river" was adapted and used as a Civil Rights song. |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: Azizi Date: 22 Apr 05 - 09:16 AM I hasten to add that Civil Rights songs should also be known to non-African Americans for historical & sociological reasons and for the quality of the songs. |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: GUEST,WYSIWYG Date: 22 Apr 05 - 09:48 AM Azizi, I think you're correct to think those are probably posted elsewhere. I'm reluctant to add their appearance here to the permathread index because they are fragments, but it WOULD be helpful to others if you could find the other threads they appear in, and insert a link in those threads, to this one, so people can get the additional information you've posted here. Then as people access the songs from the index, they'll end up here. Some people might also find it useful for links to be included in this thread, to those songs' appearances in other threads. Thanks, ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 21 Jan 09 - 10:00 PM "Woke Up This Morning" always seems to have been sung with variants, as needed or desired. This copied from "Sing Out" as reprinted in "Rise Up Singing" (Leaving out chords). WOKE UP THIS MORNING 1. Woke up this morning with my mind (my mind it was) stayed on freedom (3x) Hallelu, hallelu, hallelujah! (bridge) Walk (6x) with my mind on freedom (repeat) -Ah - walk walk walk walk 2. Ain't no harm to keep your mind (in keepin' it) stayed on freedom (3x) Hallelu ... 3. Walkin' & talkin' with my mind ... 4. Singin' & prayin' with my mind ... Rev. Osby of Aurora, IL (addl. lyrics Robert Zellner) © 1963, 1966 Fall River Music Inc. Al rights reserved. Used by permission.- In SO! 12-5 & Reprints #6. In SFF We Shall Overcome, S That Changed the World, FS EncyVI. On "Trav On w/the Weavers" & their "Reunion 1963." Ed. Peter Blood & Annie Patterson, 1988, 1992, © "Rise Up Singing, the Group-Singing Song Book." A Sing Out Publication- Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: Bob the Postman Date: 11 Oct 09 - 04:55 PM I've been singing "Bringing In The Sheaves" lately and I wonder if anyone can point me to a Wobblie or other union-type song derived from it. |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: Bob the Postman Date: 12 Oct 09 - 04:01 PM refresh |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: GUEST,Judith, Seattle Date: 14 Jul 10 - 11:28 PM I've just discovered this great thread! The post from Azizi (2005) about "Keep your Eye on the Prize, Hold On" must be the source of the song "Keep your hand on the Plow, Hold On"; but is that a union song or civil rights song or what? Another remark: Has anyone mentioned yet the union song "Farther Along" and its religions antecedent? A question: Where does "Dump the Bosses Off Your Back" come from? It sounds like a gospel song, but I don't know the source. |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: Mark Ross Date: 15 Jul 10 - 12:31 AM Utah Phillips used to say that the Wobblies took the hymn tunes because they were pretty, and changed the words so that they made more sense. But then, I heard that one of the early Protestant reformers (could it have been John Calvin?) took secular songs and made them into hymns saying,"Why should the Devil have all the good tunes?". Mark Ross |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: GUEST,Steve Date: 15 Jul 10 - 07:52 AM For gospel songs/hymns, I suggest you consult the publication _Gospel Hymns Nos. 1 to 6 Complete_, by Ira D. Sankey and others. Originally published by Biglow & Main Co., New York, 1895. Was issued in a reprint edition by Da Capo Press, New York, 1972, with an introduction by H. Wiley Hitchcock. This is probably the single most important collection of American gospel songs/hymns ever published. I think there are over 700 songs in it, probably all produced between 1870 and the publication date. (My mother left me a songster version of it with the texts of all 700-plus songs. Very easy to carry in your pocket.) The musical and religious movement its music chronicles had a tremendous impact on American popular culture. Biglow & Main was the primary publisher of early gospel songs by people like Sankey, Fanny Crosby and their ilk, but, to my knowledge, no one has done even so much as a dissertation on the company. If it matters, you might want to think about what you mean when you use that term "gospel." Within the English-speaking world, there are basically three types of gospel songs or hymns. The first is that represented by the publications of Biglow & Main (New York) and a few others (the John Church Co. of Cincinnati, for example). This is Northern urban gospel, the product of evangelist-musician teams like Dwight L. Moody and Ira Sankey. This movement (at the time, a musical juggernaut much like CCM and Praise and Worship music today) produced the first publication bearing that term "gospel song" or "gospel hymn" in 1874. The second is the gospel rep that was the product of (often small) southern publishers like Ruebush-Kieffer (near Harrisonburg, VA), A. J. Showalter (Dalton, GA), James D. Vaughan (Lawrenceburg, TN), Stamps-Baxter (Dallas, TX, and Chattanooga, TN), Stamps Quartet (Dallas), Hartford Music Co. (Hartford, AR) and numerous others. This includes the songs of Albert E. Brumley ("I'll Fly Away," "Turn Your Radio On"), Luther Presley, Adger Pace, etc. Since the 1970s this tradition has been called southern gospel. Primary collections of this rep are _Church Hymnal_ (Cleveland, TN: Tennessee Music and Printing Co., 1951; they've sold many millions) and _Heavenly Highway Hymns_ (originally Stamps-Baxter, now published by Brentwood-Benson Co.). They're typically published in seven-shape notation. And then there's the black gospel tradition, which I know less well. For most Americans today, the term "gospel" means black gospel, which has a history distinct from, but related to, the other two. Some scholars of black gospel tend to distinguish between gospel songs, jubilee songs, and spirituals (in reverse chronological order), but a lot of people just refer to it all as "gospel." If all this confuses you, don't worry. Scholars are confused about it too. Hope this doesn't feel like a wet blanket! (BTW, I'm a big fan of Judith of Seattle.) |
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Subject: RE: Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs From: Goose Gander Date: 15 Jul 10 - 01:45 PM In general, there has been tremendous cross-fertilization between secular and sacred music in American, both among blacks and whites. Mark Ross's pithy comments are very appropriate. |
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