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Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs

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Jim Krause 24 Mar 00 - 01:43 PM
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Subject: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: Jim Krause
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 01:43 PM

One of my favorite lyricists is Irish poet, songwriter Thomas Moore (1779-1852). One of the reasons I like him is that one can see a foreshadowing of writers like Stephen Foster, for example. Moore seems to be to Ireland what Robert Burns is to Scotland. Has anyone made any recent recordings of Moore's songs? Yes, I'm aware that John McCormack (sp?) made recordings many, many years ago. But I'm thinking of recordings made in say the last twenty or twenty-five years or so, ideally by a known Celtic recording artist. Sort of like what Jeanne Redpath has done with the Burns material. Wouldn't it be strange if groups like the Chieftans, or other such had ignored one of Erin's most famous sons? Sad indeed. The other reason I started this thread, is because if no one else has done it, I might. Only I don't know whether the recording would sell well enough to make it worth my while.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 02:06 PM

There are a couple of interesting CD on Hyperion. Next monday I'll post the titles. I don't agree with you when you compare Moore to Robert Burns, who is, in my opinion, more, more, more and more great than Moore, as a poet and as a folklorist. Best wishes. Roberto


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: pastorpest
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 02:16 PM

I really enjoy "Dear Harp of My Country" by tenor and Irish music scholar James W. Flannery. What you get are two CDs and a book that is a biography and analysis of Moore's music. Flannery's book captures the soul of the man and puts the music in context. His singing is accompanied by Janet Harbison on harp. She is the leader and founder I believe of the Belfast Harp Choir. The book & CDs package is published by J. S. Sanders & Company, Nashville. ISBN 1 -879941-36-8. Flannery has tried to reproduce how the songs would have been done by Moore: there is a formal drawing room quality to the music. But I truly value having the book & CDs and have learned much about Moore from them.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: Lesley N.
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 02:46 PM

I second the Flannery book/CD.

These aren't recordings, but I have a bio and links to midis/lyrics of fifteen or so of his songs at Short Biography of Thomas Moore (http://www.contemplator.com/history/tmoore.html).


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: Jim Krause
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 03:32 PM

Oh, I have pletny of sheet music from a 19th century collection of Moore's songs. I just found it curious that some of the more well known contemporary Celtic artists have apparently ignored Thomas Moore. F'rinstance I've never heard Connie Dover sing anything by Moore, but she does do a couple of Burns' songs, I think.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: Peter T.
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 04:31 PM

This may fill you with shock and horror, but the 3 Irish tenors do not a bad job of one of Moore's songs -- She is Far from the Land -- on the Live In Belfast Album (Anthony Kearns, actually) -- all a bit overorchestrated, but not bad. John McDermott does one of his nasal versions of "The Last Rose of Summer" (dedicated to his mother who just passed away) as well. Still, they are not a patch on John McCormack. The album CD Songs from my Heart is still better than anything anyone else has done. Also a little known fact: his accompaniest is often the young Gerald Moore, the greatest piano accompaniest ever.
yours, Peter T>


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: Alice
Date: 24 Mar 00 - 10:01 PM

Mary O'Hara recorded "Silent O Moyle" and "Farewell But Whenever" in the 50's. You can get the CD called Irish Traditional Folk Songs right here through the Mudcat link.click here

I know CD NOW has her recording. Also, there is this classical collection:Thomas Moore's Irish Melodies

alice flynn


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: fox4zero
Date: 25 Mar 00 - 02:31 AM

This is probably a non sequitor, but Moore's The Last Rose of Summer is sung in Von Flotow's opera MARTA.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: Ana
Date: 25 Mar 00 - 03:48 AM

I gained the impression that Thomas Moore wasn't particularly popular amongst the Irish - may be even seen to have "sold out". I understand that his adapted traditional Irish tunes were popular however with the English, they being arranged more within that style. But I know little at all (!) and would be interested in hearing more. Ana


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: honestfrankie
Date: 25 Mar 00 - 12:18 PM

A British folkie named Vin Garbutt does a very good live version of "Beleieve Me If all Your Endearing Young Charms" with a very funny intro.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: Peter T.
Date: 25 Mar 00 - 03:14 PM

Moore's songs were adapted by a lot of composers, and really had their heyday at the turn of the century in the mixed opera/Irish song music halls and concerts. You can get a good idea of their impact on at least one generation of the Irish by reading anything of James Joyce. He was a light tenor himself, and all of his writings are saturated with quotations from Moore's songs, probably more than anyone else's (thought there are lots of others). There isn't a page of Finnegans Wake that doesn't have a Moore quotation in it. He was also a big fan of McCormack's.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 25 Mar 00 - 06:53 PM

G'day All,

Ana: Your comment on Moore contrasts with Joyce's observation quoted by Peter T. I think Moore's songs were popular in their day but you comment is almost a paraphrase of Patrick Galvin's remarks in the introduction to Irish Songs of Resistance. I suspect that Moore's Irish Melodies would have been a prime target in the Republic's ethnic cleansing of Irish music in the 1920s.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Recordings of Thomas Moore's songs
From: GUEST,Rosie
Date: 11 Apr 11 - 11:53 AM

Don Maclean does a beautiful version of Mountains of Mourne.
It's the only one I'd heard before really.
I'm doing an essay on the significance of music to a couple of Irish plays and the poetry of Eavan Boland, who puts a lot of emphasis on Moore's songs in her memoires.


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